SL All Talks Alan Watt and Jackie Patru
Jackie: I’ve received quite a few emails on this Pope, and I’ve put them in a file to read, and haven’t read
them. But if I’m not mistaken, I read that he was a Jew and became a Catholic.
Alan: It’s possible. It’s very possible. I think it was in the 8th century, the first Khazar was appointed, a
Jew, was Leo the Red.
Jackie: Oh, yeah, the Khazar.
Alan: And even Ron Calli in the 1950s, Pope Ron Calli, he was Jewish. I mean, the Catholic Church is open
to anybody that goes through the rituals, you know. And, to be honest, you see, all the religions were
created by the same group, long ago. I don’t care if it’s Moslem or Christianity or Judaism, that’s your trinity
all connected, you see. They all have a common base somewhere, a common connections, but they’ve all
been used for the same purpose, which is to exploit the people, make them subservient, and bring in a
materialistic system based on money and conquering other countries with armies, up to the present phase,
where they’ll eventually blend them all in, back into an updated version, so the three will become one.
That’s the real mystic meaning of the Trinity, in High Freemasonry.
Jackie: You mean the three religions will become one. Oh, it is, isn’t it becoming that.
Alan: And so that’s the key of making things change, by using the laws of nature, you must create opposites.
And so, opposing forces fight each other to create the Third Way, which is the outcome or the synthesis.
And without at least one opposing force, no change will happen. So, if you have three opposing forces, all
apparently fighting each other, but the boys at the top are all connected, it’s the herd once again who are
being trained into a new way of living. And that’s your trinity, you know. If you want to move sheep, you
use two sheepdogs, especially. One dog, running at the pack, will make them move one way. However, if
you don’t want them to go in exactly that direction, you have another dog, just across the way, but when
they both move diagonally towards those sheep, the sheep go in a straight line to where you want them to
go. Which is the sheep pen. So, once again, you have a trinity formation.
Jackie: Repent.
Alan: Repent, yeah. So, every group who’s fought each other, down through the centuries, has been used
for completely different outcomes than the one they envisage at the time.
Jackie: Yes, that they envisioned.
Alan: So, we’re dealing here with a very complex chess game, where the people don’t even know that
they’re on the chessboard. And they can’t see the hands that are moving them. But it really is a chess
game, a very complex one.
Jackie: Okay, you know what. You were telling me today, and I wasn’t on the internet at all today. But you
were telling me that they have been holding meetings in Colorado, or excuse me, Texas, and it’s a UN, and it
has to do with water and septic systems.
Alan: They’re going…
Jackie: Alan, we just got our one-minute warning. Alright. Would you like to come back tomorrow night?
Alan: Sure, yeah.
Jackie: Well, you know, okay. We’ll do that. I’ve written this down. I would like to pick that up, tomorrow
night, and folks, we will be back with you tomorrow. Thank you for being here. And Alan, thank you for
being here.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: And ladies and gentlemen, my wish for you is peace and love, and I don’t mean that in any way to
be trite. I mean it with all of my heart. We’ll see you tomorrow night. Good night. Good night, Alan.
Alan: Good Night.
October 5th, 2005
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.
Sorry, once again, for that delay. I kept dialing in and I wasn’t getting a ring. Nothing was happening. It’s
just kind of ridiculous. Thank you for being with us tonight. This is Wednesday, and it would be the 5th, yes
the 5th of October in the year 2005. And for those of you who haven’t been tuned in, I will just announce
once again that as of next Wednesday, this broadcast will be going off the air. And it’s a necessity, folks,
because we have not been able to bring the airtime bill down, and it keeps ever growing, and ultimately, as
I’ve mentioned, this debt is mine. And I am not in a financial position, actually, even to pay what this is.
So, I just cannot let it go on any longer. And I want to thank each and every one of you who have
supported this broadcast. And as I’ve said, I know that you’ve done as much as you can do. And tonight,
our guest, once again is Alan Watt. And Alan, thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Our spiritual message, I want to share this. We were talking last night, you were talking last night
about the religions, and the religions of the world. And I had talked about this somewhat on Monday night,
although I have heard from several people who said that after I made the announcement that I was going
off the air, they weren’t able to pick it up for whatever reason. Last night the reports were that the
reception, shortwave reception was great. But this is about religion, in a sense, it’s about faith. “Faith is a
state of openness or trust. To have faith is like when you trust yourself to the water. You don’t grab hold of
the water, because if you do, you’ll become stiff, you’ll become tight, and you’ll sink. You have to relax.
And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging and holding on. In other words, a person who is
fanatic in matters of religion and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe becomes a
person who has no faith at all. Instead, they’re holding tight. But the attitude of faith is to let go, and
become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be.” That was written by Alan Watts. W-A-T-T-S. It’s
titled the essential Alan Watts on faith. And our guest tonight is Alan Watt, not to be confused with the
author of this little statement. Lots of Watts around, aren’t there, Alan?
Alan: There are a few, yeah.
Jackie: There are a few. I guess that’s quite a common Scottish name, is it?
Alan: It’s not too common, not too common.
Jackie: Okay, well. That is irrelevant. And last night, we were having a conversation, and I said, darn it, I
wish we were having this conversation on the air. And you made a few notes of what you had been talking
about, and I would like it if, I don’t know where you’ll begin with that, because our conversations do have a
tendency to flow from one point to another. And then we get into something that is so relevant, and that is
what happened last night, in the course of the conversation. Would you like to get started?
Alan: What exactly were we talking about?
Jackie: You said you were going to make notes, Alan.
Alan: I’ve got a whole pile of papers here.
Jackie: Okay, well, we were talking about people who, okay, where this started actually, we were talking
about archeology. And I said, you know, that I had seen some, because we don’t know when we get these
reports that archaeologists have discovered this, and archaeologists have discovered that. We don’t even
know if that’s true, because we find out that everything that we’ve been told for the most part is a lie. And I
remembered somebody emailing me, and they were skulls, different really weird looking skulls, that were
allegedly found dug up. And I remembered this one, and you had seen it too, and I asked you what you
thought about it, and you said that you thought it could have been an engineered, a genetically engineered,
because of the size of the brain cavity in it, etc. Remember that? Well, that’s where it started. And you
were talking about how people are bred for their psychological traits. And lacking certain emotions and
certain, okay, can you pick that up?
Alan: You’ll find evidence that the breeding of people for specific functions was perfectly understood, just by
reading Plato’s Republic. So, you’re going back 2,300-odd years. And Plato of course, like all of the
aristocracy of Greece, had been educated in Egypt. That’s where they all went. And, so everything that he
talked about in the Republic, came really from Egypt, which had already ruled the world for a few thousand
years, the ancient world. And he goes into the methods of selective breeding for specific purposes.
Jackie: And we want to remember, excuse me, I just want to reiterate this for our listeners, that there were
pharaohs, or maybe, I don’t know if all of the pharaohs, but they were white, not Egyptian, and some even
had red hair.
Alan: Yeah, and they’ve found the wigs, of course, in the tombs, that they wore, the black wigs, made from
the native people’s hair. And the males and the females of the aristocracy or nobility of Egypt and Sumer
wore the black wigs.
Jackie: What do you think about Cleopatra? Was she one of them?
Alan: Well, Cleopatra was actually Greek. She came from the Ptolemy line, and of course Ptolemy was a
General of Alexander, and he took over the reign of Egypt, and she was descended from the Ptolemies. So,
yeah she was definitely white and from that type of class. But if you go back into this breeding program,
Plato went through what they’d done with animals, just like today, if you want a domesticated dog for
hunting, you know what kind to look at, the types of breeds. If you want one for a faithful pet, there’s a
whole variety for that, so they all have specific traits. And if you want a guard dog, you know what type to
go for. And it’s done by literally selectively breeding personality types together for size, strength and
temperament, and that particular psychological trait that you’re after. And Plato went through that. And he
said, we can do exactly the same with people. For the working class, he said, you don’t want highly
intelligent people, but you do want strength. So you want them short, squat, if you like, muscular. And he
went through the methods of simply selecting a male and a female, and interbreeding them, and then,
taking their children, and doing the same all over again, until you had the desired outcome. He said, if you
want tall ones for picking apples, you make them, you simply select the tall ones and keep interbreeding
them. But it’s the same thing with psychological traits. That’s why they went to such incredible lengths for
genealogies for rulers and kings and queens. You want people who have psychopathic traits in so much that
they cannot feel empathy for others. So, that part of the brain which is developed in most people, it gives
us our sociability, and our empathy for others. You can actually breed that out of them by selective
breeding.
Jackie: And yes, and that you said has to do with different areas of the brain.
Alan: They knew in fact in Ancient Egypt what parts of the brain affected the types of emotion, the areas for
taste, smell, and hearing and so on. They had that all mapped out. In fact, one of the pharaohs wrote one
of the first medical books, and detailed all of this. So, this is well understood that certain parts of the brain
had to do with what we call gifts, like skills in mathematics and so on. So, they could, by picking a male and
a female who had similar qualities, either increase that ability, or if they wanted to get rid of a particular
quality, like empathy, you wouldn’t want a soft ruler. You want someone who’s hard and cruel if need be.
So, you simply breed a male and a female of similar temperaments, and then the same thing with their
offspring, and then the same thing again, until you have the desired type. So, when they talk about keeping
genealogies of nobility down through the ages, they’re not just talking about who their fathers or mothers
were. They’re also keeping track of the qualities that they possessed.
Jackie: To know who they wanted to breed with who.
Alan: For specific types of qualities. And for nobilities of course, and kings and queens, you’ll find that they
have all the temperaments of ego, typically psychopathic. They have tremendous ego, so they love to be
praised. They love to have battles and so on, and come out on top. But they’re never very smart. They’re
not what you would call terribly intelligent. So they in turn could be manipulated by the priesthoods that do
all the selection, you see. And that’s why kings and queens have all the advisors around them. They’re
supplied with the advisors just like today. It’s no different today. The advisors to presidents and prime
ministers are not elected by any public. We’re never told where they’re trained. And yet we know that
they’re all trained in the same global tactics, because they all know each other. They all push presidents and
prime ministers to go along with the same agenda. So, someone appoints these particular people, and
they’re trained somewhere, but we are told very little about them or their background. But they’re far more
intelligent than the people that they advise.
Jackie: And they in turn are taking their directions from someone above them, yes?
Alan: Yes. In very high Freemasonry, way above your 33rd, they call these advisors the Grey Men. And the
Grey Men, that pertains to the ones who are in touch with those of the Earth, the chess board, the black and
the white strips or squares. So, they come to the world, the earthly world, and that’s the black, basically,
but they also go to the light, the one that directs the whole thing. So they’re in between presidents and the
real controllers. So, they’re called Grey Men. Kissinger and the Brzezinskis and these guys, these are the
Grey Men. They know a lot more than presidents do. And they’re far more intelligent too.
Jackie: Getting back to those skulls, and then we’ll come back to this. Some of them were very weird. And
see, so when I looked at them, it was fascinating, intriguing, but I also knew that I didn’t know if these
actually were skulls that were dug up, or if somebody molded them out of clay. It’s hard to tell. But the
one, explain the one that you saw and what you thought about it.
Alan: Well, you’ll actually see, there was a big debate, some years ago, on the paintings and architecture of
Akhenaten, who’s a big player in high Masonry. They model the Moses story after Akhenaten, who brought
in the one-God worship into Egypt. And I don’t believe he did, because he was way too young. He was only
15 when it happened. But in the paintings in the tombs and also in the frescoes they’ve found, his skull in
the painting, and his wife, they have elongated skulls at the back, so the back of the head is elongated, and
the children’s are too. And of course then the archaeologists stepped in and said, well that was just a
change from one art style to the next. But they did unearth a lot of the skulls of Akhenaten’s family, and
sure enough, they have these strange elongated, they’re real skulls. They’ve found so many of them in that
particular lineage.
Jackie: Okay, well, the ones that I saw, you know, there wasn’t any, like this is from Akhenaten’s line or
anything. But what does this indicate if there’s an elongated skull and it’s towards the back did you say, or
towards the front?
Alan: Yeah, it’s high. The head is high. And the occipital lobe at the back is longer as well. So the whole
cortex, really, in other words, there’s more brain cells there. There’s no doubt about it. And also, if you look
closely at the skull, you’ll see that they’re more roundish towards the front. So it’s presumed that they were
all given birth by Cesarean section. When you go through the birth canal, for instance, you know that the
lobes, the parietal lobes slide over each other in the baby’s skull. And it’s always been debated how much
damage that does. And so, a lot of the nobility, not just recent, but in ancient times…
Jackie: Unless a woman is, excuse me, I’m sorry, these thoughts come and I just spurt them out. If women
are basically built for childbearing, but there are some women who are narrower hipped and narrower pelvis,
where I would think that that would be the case. But would the woman who was really built for
childbearing, there wouldn’t be that kind of damage, would there?
Alan: There would still be some, because that still would have to, they still slide, basically.
Jackie: What is it that slides, Alan?
Alan: Well literally, the skull has two plates you might say, two main plates that will slide over each other.
Jackie: That’s where that soft spot is at the top on a baby.
Alan: The fontanel, yeah. Anyway, getting back to this, these guys knew this back in ancient Egypt. And
the strange thing was, when you look at the ones they’ve unearthed in the Aztec lineage, the nobility and
kings and queens, they’re the same. They’ve got these same strange elongated skulls, which are also
thicker than a normal human skull at the back, because again there was another debate in medicine, well,
was this due to hydrocephalus, which can actually build up spinal fluid. But no, because you wouldn’t get a
thickening of the skull. These skulls both in the Aztec rulership and in the Egyptian rulership, were both
thicker at the back. So, it’s a strange trait, which could certainly have been done through intense
interbreeding for those very abilities that those people actually possessed.
Jackie: I recall, this was, I think, during our first, very first broadcast for that five-week period in ’98, and
I’ve relistened to the tapes, a couple of times now, but the second time around was extremely fascinating,
because quite a bit of time had gone between. But I remember you talking about Akhenaten, and you said
that he had basically over-ridden in a sense the priesthood, and he had brought in the one god, worship of
one god, and that he was a very humble person. In other words, he didn’t have himself painted or sculpted
as a big broad-shouldered, but he had kind of a, you know, squat body and pot belly and…
Alan: Big hips too. In fact, he had bigger hips than his wife.
Jackie: Wow. And you said that soon after he died, all of the temples that he had erected for the one God
were destroyed and they went right back to the multiple god worship.
Alan: Yeah. It was a strange time period. As I say, he had to have been coached as to what to do, even
with the theology to go along with this one-god worship. And the god, of course, was the sun. It was the
sun he was talking about. And actually, the sun is a symbol of the light bringer or Lucifer. We have to
remember that too. In all mystic religions it’s always the same. And he had, you’ll see pictures of
Akhenaten and his wife, and from the sun comes these lines like almost like the lines cast from a ship. And
at the end of it, you have the Ankh. And that’s what an Ankh is. That’s where we get the word anchor
from. And the old Egyptian anchor was Ankh shaped, you see. It didn’t have the hook at the end, as it did
in later times. So, that was the symbol of being anchored to the light bringer. And, but it wasn’t for
everyone. It was only for a special class of people.
Jackie: Alan, has there ever been a time in the history of this world that you’re aware of, where people
actually didn’t have a god that had, you know, human personalities and etc, or the sun. I’ve wondered to
myself sometimes, did they worship the sun as representative of the one creator, given that the sun gives
physical life on this earth.
Alan: Yeah. That was one way of looking. See, long before there were rulerships as we know them, you
know, people lived in small communities, and everything had a magic to it, a natural magic, simply meaning
a nature of life which they could not understand, but it was wonderful to observe. That’s what it meant.
And so, they didn’t build up any theology about it, or dogma. But along came the priesthoods, who
subverted all of this. And eventually, they had them trained in Egypt, and the Mayans did it too, and the
Aztecs, that if this priesthood didn’t get up in the morning, and have enough gifts and money presented,
then they wouldn’t perform the ceremony that would make the sun rise, you see. So the natural awe that
people held for nature in general, for life itself, was subverted and taken over by very intelligent
psychopathic types.
Jackie: The priesthood.
Alan: Who then used it against the people, and built up dogma and rules and regulations.
Jackie: And created nations.
Alan: That’s right. And made the people, turned the people into slaves.
Jackie: And turned the people into slaves and turned the people into warriors to protect the nation’s borders.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Now, you know when you first said that, those are concepts that, because, I don’t know that it
occurred to very many of us, how did nations come about, and I didn’t necessarily buy into it. But it was an
interesting thought, especially, when you, you know, explained the meaning of the word, international. It
means inter, to bury, the nations. And yet, they in the writings of the elite, those who call themselves Jews,
they say, that they were the ones that created the nations. And, of course, they weren’t the ones, but
somebody asked me after that broadcast, and you were talking about what it was like before the priesthood
was in control, or in areas where they got control. And that that was the most natural way of living. And
somebody emailed me and said, is he insinuating that we all need to go back to the cave days? I said,
maybe so. Maybe so, maybe not cave days, but…
Alan: Well, here’s a paradox. Here’s a paradox for everybody, and it’s the meaning of. See, the Bible, in the
Old Testament, is allegory, is Masonic allegory. And everything, every story in it is an allegory for something
else. Which is well understood by those near the top. And so Eden represents nature in its pure state. And
if you’re not content with nature in its pure state, and you leave nature, and you put your faith in science,
you see, because once you leave the place where everything is there that you need, and you become
dependent on specialists, whether it’s a blacksmith or whatever, then there’s only one path from Eden, and it
leads eventually to where we’re going in the future, actually now. It leads to the extinction of the human
will, the human mind, and independent thinking.
Jackie: And in the villages, where there were clans and etc, they had toolmakers, people who seemed to be
more gifted in that area. They had their healers, people who knew the herbs to use for medicine and etc.
And their “holy men” or women, and these were women who took a lot of time alone for contemplation and
not to coin a phrase, but spiritual enlightenment, so to speak. And so, it was all there, within the village.
And each person had different talents. And it was all shared.
Alan: Yeah, yeah. Because the strength of the tribe depended on everyone being involved. No one went
hungry, for instance. And they didn’t have the moneyed work ethic, a different type of work ethic, where
the individual who accumulates has the right to dominate the rest. That didn’t exist. And in fact, up until
the 1700s, in the highlands of Scotland, you’ll find that iron nails were still exchanged as a form of money.
It was more important to them to have something that was useful. But of course, they had the rebellion
then, and that was all arranged, because they had to destroy that old system. And they did. They cleared
the highlands.
Jackie: The rebellion being a revolution.
Alan: Well, they sent over Prince Charles, who, he was over in France at the time. And they sent him over,
and he led a revolution which failed. I think it was intended to fail. And everybody, no one knew, except
him, I’m sure. And then, they used that as an excuse to clear the highlands, even though only a few clans
took part.
Jackie: Would you hold that thought? We’re at the half hour. We’re going to take a break here.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back with Alan Watt, folks. You were mentioning the uprising in Scotland.
Alan: It was a handful of clans followed the Bonnie Prince Charlie, as they called him, Charles Stewart. And I
lived in a place called Culloden for a while, where that last battle took place, and he led them there. He
went off a couple of miles away, into a Culloden house, for the night, and left them on this bog, it was an
actual bog, and they got up in the morning early because of the British army, and it was British, because
there were Scottish regiments, southern Scottish regiments there too. So they were all arrayed with their
cannon and firing away for about five hours before Charles gave the order to charge. And it turned out that
Charles had scampered. He hadn’t even arrived on the battlefield, and he escaped back to France and then
to Italy. So, they were left as a sacrifice. Interestingly enough, there’s a story involved with this, that tells
you how the future is planned. It truly is planned. Because there was, in Scotland, you have these seers
they call them. And one of them was called the Brahan Seer, who could see into the future. And the Brahan
Seer lived in the 1500s. And I read the original book in a library, from the 1500s, and he did say that when
he was passing what became Culloden, it was called Drumossie at that time, Drumossie Moor, he said, woe,
for Drumossie Moor will be the death of the flower of Scotland, as he called it. And flower of Scotland is the
young men. That’s what that means. And just before the battle, about a year before the battle, it was
officially changed on the maps, that Drumossie Moor to Culloden, which is the culling of Odin, you see.
Because the old clans still had Odin as their deity.
Jackie: The culling of Odin. Now, how long before this happened was this written that this Seer said this?
Alan: About 200-odd years. So, that’s how things are planned. We’re taught and trained and indoctrinated
to believe that life, we just bumble along and politicians stumble through crises that they can’t foresee, and
nothing can be further from the truth. Because, when you go into history, you’ll find very elite sects of
people writing about the future, because they belonged to organizations which planned the future. And of
course, you’ll find the whole globalization effort with all of what we now think of as the UN agendas,
interfering with all phases of our life. You’ll find Cecil Rhodes and his Secret Society, and then followed up
by Lord Milner, who then ran it with the Round Tables. They wrote about it, and Carroll Quigley documented
most of it in his two main books, Tragedy and Hope, and he wrote another one, it was called The Anglo-
American Establishment, where he gives you the names of the big players, the big families that are involved
in this, and where they thought they could bring us. If you go into the writings of Lenin in the early 1900s,
he said towards the end of the millennium we shall see a global society come into view. Lord Bertrand
Russell said the same thing around 1920. So, these guys knew exactly the time lines that they were working
on with five, ten, twenty, fifty, one-hundred year plans. And if you look into the United Nations today,
they’re still working on those same types of schedules, with fifty and a hundred-year plans.
Jackie: I was doing some searching today on the internet, seeing if I could come up with that meeting that
you were talking about, meetings that they had been having, UN environmental meetings in Texas, relating
to water and septic and etc. And border region 20, is now called border 2012. Or border region 21, I guess
it was. Whatever, it’s now 2012.
Alan: And right now, they’re having an Earth Summit in Alaska. And we know what happened from the last
Earth Summit, it was a tremendous impact, on all our way of living with the environment and so on. So
these things are ongoing, continuous, and actually, they’re speeding them up. But, as I say, Lord Milner and
Cecil Rhodes and Lord Rothschild, and all these guys who helped set up the secret society that they formed.
Again, it was a high Masonic society, with passwords and so on. They wrote about what’s happened in our
lifetimes. They helped bring on World War II, and Carroll Quigley documents that very, very well, from the
records of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, which the Cecil Rhodes and Milner group set up. And
the American branch is called the CFR.
Jackie: And you can go back a hundred years to the protocols and it is so eerie what they said a hundred
years ago, and how they were going to do what they were going to do, and how it has been done, even to
the point of saying, we’re going to give the President the authority to declare war. Well, he’s never been
given the authority other than by those advisors, who say, yes, you should do this, and yes you can do it.
But that is happening today.
Alan: Well, even the New American Century document that was published in the ’90s and drawn up by
Wolfowitz and Cheney and that bunch, and that was a private organization at that time, they had the whole
war, which countries they were going to invade, beginning with Afghanistan, and then Iraq, and then Iran
and Syria. So they had all the countries mapped out in advance. And then they went and did it. So, sure.
And then Brzezinski’s book came out, called The Grand Chessboard, in the late ’90s. And he said, we need
something on the scale of a Pearl Harbor situation, to motivate the American public behind us for those
countries we wish to go to war with. And lo and behold, things always seem to happen in their favor.
Jackie: Yes, and then there was Kissinger. I watched and listened to this man, within a couple of hours of
9/11, and he said this is an attack just like Pearl Harbor, and we need to address it in the same way.
Alan: Yes. And immediately too, Brzezinski was on television saying we should go to war with Iraq, you
know. And you know, most people today, they’ve done polls in Canada and the States, and they published
them in the newspapers here, most people in the US think now, because of all the propaganda by the media,
they’ve forgotten that Afghanistan was supposed to be the hiding place for the Al Qaeda, and they’ve come
to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the attack. Even though I’ve got it on videotape during
the inquiry where George Bush said, he says, No, I never said that we were attacking Iraq because Saddam
had anything to do with blowing up the towers. He said, I went into Iraq, he said, because the world’s a
better place without him. So, you know, but the public truly have been brainwashed by retrospective
propaganda by the media to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible.
Jackie: Well, I recall, maybe that was a process, because I can remember them saying, first of all it was
Afghanistan, because that’s where Osama Bin Laden was hanging out. And they had to go in there and find
him and the terrorists. And the next thing you know, Saddam Hussein was harboring terrorists.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Now, Al Qaeda was not associated with Bin Laden, was he?
Alan: Well, the Al Qaeda was a term that the CIA gave them. And of course, the CIA had formed and
sponsored and funded and trained these groups, when Afghanistan was occupied by the Russians. So they
trained them and formed them to do what they did.
Jackie: Yes, Osama Bin Laden was a CIA asset.
Alan: That’s right. And he’s a member of the nobility of Saudi Arabia.
Jackie: And for any newer listeners, Osama Bin Laden’s family was very closely connected and in business
with the Bushes.
Alan: And they did documentaries on the CBC on that. In fact, on the very day that the towers went down,
Bush Sr was at a meeting with the Laden family.
Jackie: Yes. And they were flown safely out of the States, I understand.
Alan: That was the only aircraft allowed to fly the following day.
Jackie: Yep. And then Osama Bin Laden was the bad guy.
Alan; That’s correct. It’s just amazing how they play these tricks with us.
Jackie: Yes. I’d like to bring this up a little bit to closer to today, if we could. Because something that I’d
like you to share, if you would, with our listeners, well, I had a call from Jerrie in Wisconsin, and she was
very interested, when at the end of the broadcast last night, we were talking, just briefly about rural
cleansing. And the one thing, and I will say this once again, because I couldn’t understand. I didn’t doubt
that they intend to move people out of the country, into the cities. And I’ll tell you what really clinched it for
me, was that, in the Old Testament, after they took all the people’s grain and made them pay for it, and
then created a depression, and then they had no money, so they had to give away their flocks to the
pharaoh, and finally they sold themselves and their children into slavery. And it says right in there that
Joseph gathered the people up from the country and took them into the cities. And, anyway, I couldn’t
figure out how are they going to do this, you know, just say, okay, you can’t live here anymore. Well, now
we’re experiencing rural cleansing. Besides the rewilding, they’re already getting their playgrounds ready,
but here in the rural areas, first of all, we have rural electric, rural gas, and there are all these, oh, we can’t
make any money. For example my heating bill is natural gas. And Pennsylvania is natural gas rich. In fact
we’re a natural gas pocket where we live. And yet, they keep taking these hikes, of course. Last year, it got
to the point where I had to go on the budget plan, and it was, it budgeted out to $191 a month throughout
the year, when during the summertime my bill was running maybe $27 to $38 a month. So, I got close to
$400 in some months. I received a notice from the gas company that according to my usage last year, the
budget plan for my monthly will go up to $247 a month. And when I called them, basically, I got the same
story that I did the first time I called about this. Oh, well, we can’t make a profit, it’s against the law. Well,
then why are the rates so high? Well, it’s our suppliers. We get our gas from all over the country. I said,
what about Pennsylvania? Why don’t we get it here? It must cost bukoo tons of money to pipe gas from
states all over this country. And I have to go to the Energy Commission, or something like that, in order to
get answers to that. But, so, our costs of electricity have risen. We took a rate raise, she said, in
September, and there’s going to be another one in December. And the electricity has gone up. And they
are raising our property taxes every single year. And of course that’s happening at a local level. And it
doesn’t matter if people swarm these county commissioners, township supervisors, they do it. They just
absolutely do it. And I still think that a damn good, excuse my vernacular, tarring and feathering, and I
don’t mean scalding somebody with hot tar. But it seems like it has to stop some place. But then you look
at the prices of gasoline for the cars, and so, in the rural areas, I’ve heard people actually talking about
maybe not being able to afford to keep their jobs because the gas that it’s going to cost them to get to their
jobs, they’ll wind up making nothing. And I suddenly thought, it’s rural cleansing.
Alan: All this was discussed in the Kyoto conference. And they reiterated really what’s been said before by
the UN many times, that they want to bring North America back to the energy consumption of the 1960s.
And that’s what they’re doing. This is all to do with the Kyoto.
Jackie: And I saw an article about bicycles and how many hundreds of thousands of people, there have been
a few million, I guess, that are switching to bicycles. I have an article here from the 1950s, a newspaper
article or a report. It could have been a report on a political agenda, that they intend to get the people out
of their cars and driving, riding bicycles. And here we are.
Alan: China is the model state for all of this, but what China or the main cities there don’t get is lots of snow,
you know. And they won’t let us use spikes on our bicycle tires here, because it churns up the road, you
see. So, I guess we’ll be skating to work, maybe, or skiing, maybe skiing to work.
Jackie: And we had a conversation, quite a few weeks ago. One of our listeners here in Pennsylvania was
telling you that in his county and it’s actually a county right next to this one, it was a road, that was not
really heavily traveled. One accident occurred on that road about seven years ago, or one accident in seven
years, and yet they’ve lined the highway for miles with guard rails. And what you kind of figured out, you
said, you know, because they’re talking about these all-terrain vehicles or the SUVs.
Alan: That’s right. I used to wonder why on earth, the SUV, they’re attacking so much. Then you realize,
when you look at the recent events in New Orleans and in Texas.
Jackie: Relocation, yes.
Alan: Everyone has to stay on the same highways. They don’t want people wandering off. So, whatever is
coming down the pike, they don’t want people with the ability to drive off the road through the country, you
know.
Jackie: Because the guard rails aren’t on any particular slopes.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And how many miles did he say this guard rail went?
Alan: I don’t know, but it was just the fact that it was done so quickly for no real reason. Local governments
don’t spend money like that. In fact, generally, when it’s something that’s necessary, it’s hard to get them
to act at all, but this wasn’t necessary, so there’s other reasons behind it. And I think whatever is coming,
they’re going to want people staying on certain roads as they herd us all into where we’re supposed to go.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, it occurs to me, we could have an “unnatural disaster” here in the area, where they say,
okay, we have to get you out of here for your own safety. And it does make sense that those SUVs would
easily be able to drive off a country road, through a field, even through light woods if they’ve got trails, and
they don’t have to stay with the pack, with the herd.
Alan: That’s right. And you know, in New Orleans, I don’t know if the public are still aware, they still have
road checks all over the place. Every so many miles, you come up to roadblocks. And you show your ID
and all the rest of it. That’s still going on, right now.
Jackie: I told you, I mentioned last night, about the lady that was here with friends. Not here at my place,
but in Pennsylvania, and she tried to go back, if I recall, and she was turned away. And she doesn’t know
when she can go back. And her home wasn’t even flooded, but she was ousted at gunpoint, and I really
would love to know what is happening in New Orleans, or in that area. I’m not asking for calls this evening,
but listeners who might have, because, Alan, it’s been quiet.
Alan: I know. It’s like they dropped it all together.
Jackie: I know, but usually on the internet, there are reports from people, you know, people who lived in the
area or etc. And I still get a slew of emails, and those I pull up when they come in. Those are the ones that
I want to take a look at. And it’s just been so quiet, that you just don’t know what’s been going on there.
Alan: No, I know. So, it’s a huge training exercise for sure, for the military and the police and the multijurisdictional
task force. They’re all one now. One fraternity they were called on the main media here. One
brotherhood is another term they used on the CBC.
Jackie: The brotherhood of police?
Alan: Police and military. International brotherhood of police and military. That was said.
Jackie: They have had for a long time, and this is so amazing, when you think how slick they are. They have
the, let’s say a county association of police. Police chiefs. They’ll have then the state. Then they’ll have the
national association. And the international association. And they have the international association of
mayors.
Alan: And they all are international, which means they’re registered with the United Nations. And they have
their own publications that are sent around to the police chiefs all over the world. And they promote the
agenda. And if they promote the agenda they know that they not only stay in their job, they’ll get well
rewarded for it.
Jackie: Well, you know, I read a book, and it was a very intriguing book. It’s been a few years ago. And it
followed this one particular police chief and he went from one state, Alan, to another. He kept showing up
in other states. Very corrupt. Very evil. And he would leave after things would get so hot, and then the
next thing you know, he’s a police chief in another state someplace.
Alan: I’d like to say though, I tuned in one Sunday, through the shortwave, I was scanning the shortwave,
and the FM stations in New Orleans have got together because of the damage, so they’ve got together as an
amalgam, a temporary amalgamation, and they’re broadcasting on shortwave at certain times during the day
on 15.825. And the last one that I listened into, it was the reporters and the media, from those stations,
getting an update from the FEMA representatives there. So, you get it live as it happens on 15.825.
Jackie: And it’s various times throughout the day?
Alan: Yeah, the rest of the time, it’s religion, but then it comes in, and it will tell you. It’s called WWL, that’s
one of the FM stations. URBC is the other one. And there’s another one. There’s three of them together, in
fact, but they’re broadcasting on the shortwave, and that’s where you get the news from, straight from
there.
Jackie: Yeah, but do you think it’s actual real stuff you’re getting?
Alan: That’s what the people in that area are receiving themselves on their FM stations. They’re
simultaneously broadcasting it on the shortwave.
Jackie: But why would we think that they’re getting the truth, Alan?
Alan: Well, I know. I know. In fact, that’s what they did show you, it was a question-answer thing. So you
heard the answers that FEMA were giving to the press. And it’s up to the individual to suss it out, sort of
thing. But it’s a huge exercise with FEMA totally in control.
Jackie: Alright. …And Alan, we’re just about out of time. We do have next week coming up. I’m going to be
talking to Darren Weeks, our webmaster, and I would like to invite Darren to come on with us, next week,
for one or two days. But I’m thinking, it would be appropriate, as much time as you’ve given, and as much
enlightenment that you’ve brought to us, to invite you to come on Wednesday night, which would be our last
broadcast night. If you would like to do that. …Okay. Folks, we’ll be back with you, Monday. And thank
you for being here, and Alan, thank you for being here.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Good night. Good night, folks. And God bless you.
April 4th, 2006
Alan Watt on “Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
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Jackie Patru: Alright. Well, say hello to our listeners this evening, and let them know what your website is. I’ve got
water boiling, and I want to go get my tea, okay?
Alan Watt: Yeah, you can catch me, Alan Watt, at .com. And there are different programs and shows which you can
download for free, audio shows, and one video. And you can do it both on landline and on highspeed. It takes longer on
the landline. Some people have downloaded it on the landlines without any problems at all. And the webmaster has
made it pretty simple, which people like me really need, actually, in order to find out how to download the stuff. But it’s
up there. There will be more added to it shortly, including some CDs which are coming out, a whole series of them. I
also have three books for sale, which are called Cutting Through. And these books, I, II, and III, go into the occult
hidden societies behind rulerships and kingdoms and governments and so on, down through the ages, up until the present
time. And I give you a lot of Masonic and High Masonic coding contained within them. And in the third one, I go into
the monetary connection between the system we live in, which is called civilization; we’ve always had money at the
beginning of what we call civilization, or the system, which basically dictates the way we live, how we live, who will
live better than whom, and how wars are created and made and so on from thousands of years BC up until the present. It
really hasn’t changed in its structure, its intentions, or its methodology. So, you can order those books, and you’ll see
again, the address on the website to order them from. I don’t know if Jackie is back yet or not. I guess not.
Jackie: I’m back.
Alan: You’re back, eh?
Jackie: I’m back.
Alan: This is live. This is live radio. (Laughter)
Jackie: Alan, you know, I think we’ve got a delay going on here or something.
Alan: Really? Oh.
Jackie: Yeah, because you’re not responding as quickly. And then I keep wondering if I’ve lost you.
Alan: No, unless maybe the secret service is trying out a different computer that I’m going through first, yeah, so they
can. Yeah, you never know.
Jackie: Right. Did you tell them, because I was in the kitchen, and couldn’t hear what you were saying, did you tell
them about being on George Noory?
Alan: No. I was asked to go on the George Noory Show by the producer. And I’ve accepted. We’ll see if it still goes
ahead. If it does, it will be on the overnight of the 10th and the 11th of this month. And I don’t know how long it’s on
for either. I don’t know if it’s an hour or more. And this happened after I was on the Rollye James show, for three
hours, so I guess the word got round, and we’ll see how the next one goes. I’m kind of looking forward to it. Hello? I
guess Jackie has gone for her tea again.
(Electronic Pulse Sound Interference)
Alan: Wow, what was that? What was that sound there?
Jackie: What was what? Was it bad?
Alan: It was a clashing, electronic sound.
Jackie: I thought that was at your place.
Alan: No. It was a dee-dee-dee-dee-dee. To me it sounded like some sort of electronic pulsation or something.
Jackie: Well, on the George Noory thing, you’ve sent your books, right? They wanted the books. You’ve mailed the
books to them?
Alan: Yeah. That will give them an idea, I guess of questions and things to ask.
Jackie: Well, we’ll see once they read your books if they’re going to bring you on.
Alan: That’s right. They might cancel, and say, oh, no, this guy is too far out there.
Jackie: Well our listeners need to know that it’s been scheduled, you did say, overnight the 10th and 11th of April. And
you’re scheduled to be on at 2am Eastern time, right, Alan?
Alan: I think it is.
Jackie: Well, you said 11 Pacific, so that would be 2am. And you’re not sure. So, folks, this is really amazing. The fact
that he was on the Rollye James Show and 6 FM stations, and the information is getting out, and I just think it’s a
miracle, Alan.
Alan: Yes. And also, I was also on last week there, I got a sudden call to go back on The Edge Show for half an hour,
because the guest hadn’t turned up. So it’s nice to see that these things are starting to happen now.
Jackie: Yes, it is. And it is a possibility that you might wind up saying more than their handlers want you to say, but the
beauty of this is that you’re having the opportunity to get in front of so many people.
Alan: Yes, that’s it.
Jackie: I think it’s a miracle. To me, it’s like a miracle.
Alan: Well, it’s been a long time coming. I mean, we started in ’98, and just worked quietly and plodded on, you know.
And for some reason.
Jackie: You’d be surprised how many of our listeners have contacted me over the years, Lily mentioned this, she said in
the American Free Press, we would get on or I would get on a topic on Sweet Liberty, and she said, right after that the
American Free Press would be on it. She said it happened way too many times to be coincidence. And Eleanor called
me from Canada, and you had said this too, that you noticed a lot of times Art Bell, a radio talk show host, repeating
you, almost quoting you, but yet, of course, never acknowledging the source. And Eleanor called one night, and this
was, I don’t know, at least a couple of years broadcast or whatever, and she said, Jackie, tune into Art Bell, what he’s
doing right now is just an extension of what you and Alan just got done doing. So, they’ve probably been listening,
Alan.
Alan: And also the other thing was, well, there’s a shortwave broadcaster too, who would often mention topics the next
day, which we discussed the night before. But sure, I have no doubt. The giveaway is that there must be… See, I know
there are people out there who monitor all the airwaves. And I know this for a fact, because there was a show on a
Toronto station one day, a bit of news, and I really wanted to get a hold of the original copy, and I contacted the station,
and they said they couldn’t, they didn’t have a copy to give me, but they put me in touch with an organization which
does international monitoring of all the airwaves. And I wrote to them, and sure enough, it cost me 60 dollars for a
cassette tape, mind you, but this organization does monitor all radio shows and television shows in the entire country.
And I thought, this has to be run by some government agency. So, they do scan all the information that’s being put out
there, and I guess that way they can head off that information by putting out people with their own spin on it, you know.
That’s how they keep control of the information. So, when someone is coming out with some truth, they put out a
superhero that then repeats it, and because god has said it, and with a spin on it, the people will listen to it, where the
original person is forgotten in the wash, you know. That’s how it works.
Jackie: You know, I’ll tell you a good example of that. When there was a lot, actually, it was early on, when we first
started talking about chemtrails, and that would have been the summer of ’98, Alan. But we were really hitting it heavy
at the time, and that was before you started, because you actually began coming on in the winter, December of ’98, but it
was within a year, or maybe that year, it was ABC, one of the networks, part of the news network, I’ve got it on video.
They had a three or four minute thing on chemtrails. Of course they were calling them contrails. And they were even
showing them what they looked like from the satellites. And they showed Xs in the sky. And they said that these were
from commercial jet airplanes, and that they were very concerned that this might be part of the cause of global warming.
Alan: Yeah, they said it was contrail clutter.
Jackie: They said it was contrails.
Alan: And they called it clutter.
Jackie: Contrail clutter, yeah. Contrails that didn’t dissipate, right. And I wonder how many people who weren’t aware
of what a “chemtrail” is looked at that, and said, wait a minute. That’s not a contrail. Contrails don’t last. Contrails
dissipate almost as fast as the airplane leaves it.
Alan: But everything is new in the New World Order. We have a New World Order, and we have a new freedom, and
we have new contrails, you see. Everything is new.
Jackie: And new hurricane weather patterns.
Alan: That’s right. And tornadoes. And yet every one of these things, this is the beauty of very high tech manipulation.
The beauty of it is that as long as they don’t admit they’re using very high sciences, even though they admit that they
have these abilities and installations to do so. As long as they don’t admit they’re actually using them, we can never,
ever get the absolute proof, except what we see by our own reason. You know. That’s how it works. So everything in
other words that we see.
Jackie: I have written it down, but it’s on another page here, that when you had a visitor, one of our friends here from
Pennsylvania, and you mentioned in the wintertime there, it happened last winter, and evidently this winter too, that after
the snow melted there was this white haze all over the ground. And he took a sample of it and had it analyzed. And
what were the metals that they found in that thing, Alan?
Alan: Barium. There was barium, there was aluminum oxide, copper, titanium, and some other metallic substances. But
this laboratory didn’t have the facilities to do a biological check on it. But at least we got all the metals there. But yeah,
the whole field, once the last snow melts for a few days, you have maybe four or five inches of, it’s like tiny interwoven
cobwebs, that’s what it looks like. It’s like a candy floss all over the field. And once the sun works on it for four or five
days, then it crumbles into a powder which lasts for quite a while. But that was the time of year where my dog died.
Other people I know, their cats and dogs were getting sick as well, vomiting and so on, and I think it was from basically
eating the snow. See, that’s the last of the concentrated spraying for the whole winter. That’s maybe four months, five
months of snow, of spraying all in that snow, you see.
Jackie: Alan, remember the [inaudible] just prior to Meggie? She had a sudden heart attack. She had no signs of any
illness whatsoever. But when you mentioned snow. She’d go out there and she’d look just like a machine. She’d put
her mouth in the snow and just eat her way through it. And it never ever occurred to me until you just said that that
might have. Because Mariah would go out, Mariah didn’t eat the snow, she rolls in it. She rolls in it.
Alan: But then they lick their fur, they lick their paws, you know.
Jackie: And it was in February, right around the first of February. And Megan died, about a month later or before that.
Alan: That was March. Yeah, March, the end of March.
Jackie: Okay, there you go.
Alan: You literally have four months of spraying all condensed into that thin little layer you see. That’s a lot of
chemicals. And that’s what’s left at the end, is this polymer type of sponge almost. And then it crumbles into a white
powder, and even the leaves that it rests upon turn pure white with it, you know. That’s a lot of chemicals. That’s what
we’re being doused with. And this falls right along with the HAARP technology, because in HAARP, they mentioned
many, many years ago, that they could use HAARP on a more sophisticated level, if they could douse the atmosphere
with metallic particles, because it would be a good electrical conduit. But we’re also taking this stuff in. We’re
breathing it in. We’re eating it from the food. It’s in the water. So, we also are becoming walking antennas. And
surely none of this can be a byproduct, a coincidence of it all. Perhaps that’s their intention.
Jackie: Some time ago, remember, I told you about [inaudible] and the flyer I got on it. It’s some type of amino acid, I
think. And the flyer, the FDA has acknowledged, that you cleanse the body of heavy metals, toxins, heavy metals, but
not how well it does with cleaning out the arteries. That’s the point they were making. But at that point, I remember
saying this, and I thought about it again, when you were giving me that list of metals. We need to check out and see if it
really will help to flush that from the body, Alan. Don’t you think it’s worth looking into?
Alan: Oh, sure, absolutely. I’m sure the elite themselves must have some very sophisticated methods of ridding it from
themselves. They must be doing it.
Jackie: Yeah, because they’re out and about, aren’t they?
Alan: I’m sure that they do. Whatever the public have access to on a medical level is always antique, really, and they’re
always so far ahead, near the top, they must have very sophisticated methods of ridding this from their body. We know
that they do get inoculations, the real inoculations, against many of the hybrid designed bacteriums and viruses from
germ warfare labs. They do get inoculations against all of these high diseases. So, they would also get some sort of
high chelation type therapy.
Jackie: And that’s what [inaudible] is, is chelation therapy.
Alan: But it’s a dangerous world we’re living in. It’s always been rather dangerous in this system, but it’s getting more
overt now. We can see the effects, we can look at the skies and actually see this stuff coming down. One, I think it was
last winter, when it’s cold, the polymer, the stuff that causes the rainbow effects around the sun when they’re spraying
heavily, you’ll find the polymer, when it’s really cold weather, sometimes comes down, it comes down in clumps. And
I saw one about six feet long, tumbling through the sky, slowly, and then it hit a tree and then gradually started to
dissolve. And so, that’s what they used to call angel hair, back in the 60s when they were experimenting with this stuff
on the public. And of course, the diversion that the CIA put out was, oh there’s always UFOs in the vicinity when this
stuff is coming down, this angel hair, but really, they were testing it themselves on the public, and then, no doubt, they
knew what the results would be by following the medical records of local areas, you know.
Jackie: What it sounds like to me is that ethyl dibromide. And remember I told you, that was in ’98 when I received that
email, and it said it’s confirmed that it’s been in the chemtrails.
Alan: But there’s many substances, and again, I’d love to get biological tests done on this stuff to see if there’s viruses.
Because I know, back in the 1950s, when it was Teller that created the H-Bomb, he first suggested using this type of
spray for electromagnetic pulse purposes, the HAARP purpose. And he also said that the polymer that they could mix it
with could also be used to carry bacterium or viruses across vast areas in wartime. So, I’d love to get a sample done on
a biological level.
Jackie: When I got the manufacturer’s safety data sheet on the ethyl dibromide, it did say that it freezes at about 50
degrees. And it dissipates in the sun. And when I called that lab, the gentlemen, they put me in touch with the guy that
actually did the analysis. And he said, I can’t give you the results, because somebody, a private individual had the
sampling done, the analysis. But he said, I will tell you this one thing, there’s no more than 10% EDB in this sample.
And the FDA, around the 80s, I think, had put out an emergency stoppage on the use of EDB, ethyl dibromide, as they
were using it, they had used it for about a decade as pesticide. And I got a lot of information about pesticides, as part of
environmental protection, because they were the ones that really began to want to know what was the safety of this stuff.
And they were spraying it on dried corns and grains and things like that. They were using it as a pesticide and all the
tests that had been done on it were by the company that manufactured the EDB, and they kept saying it was safe. So,
after a decade, then the EPA puts out an emergency stop usage. There is no safe level of ethyl dibromide. And
according to this guy at the lab in Ohio that I spoke with, he said there was no more than 10% in that sample that he
analyzed. And one of our listeners in, I believe it was Arkansas, called me just before I went on the air the one day,
that’s when I was on at 6pm. And he said, they’ve been spraying, and he said Jackie, this stuff is hanging off the trees.
And he grabbed a film canister and went out and got a sample of it. And he was holding it, and I told him, put a mask
on and gloves. And he went out to get a sample, and he got back on the phone, and he was describing it to me, like you
said. It looked like it was lacy, like angel hair.
Alan: It’s like that candy cane, you know that stuff.
Jackie: You’re talking about cotton candy.
Alan: Cotton candy. In Britain you call it candy floss, you know. But that’s the stuff.
Jackie: As he was watching it, it was dissipating. So, I suggested that he get it in the freezer right away, and he did, and
it stopped, you know, it stopped melting, dissipating. And do you know, I don’t really know what came of that. And we
were in touch off and on, and I don’t know if he was able to find a lab that would do an analysis on it. That’s very bad
stuff. That stuff you’re describing is what he described, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, I know. Well, this is happening all over the country. This is all kept quiet by the regular media, and anyone
who can trust the regular media, when this is happening above your heads every day, I mean, why would you expect any
truth from them. And to be honest, I think this is the number one crisis that we have to face at the moment. This
secrecy around what’s happening above our heads is terribly ominous. They know it’s detrimental to our health. They
know they can’t tell the public what it is or why they’re doing it. And yet there’s a priority obviously for doing so. I
think this is the number one thing that we have to really get out into the open, because until this stops, I don’t think
people are going to survive too long, with all the infections they’re getting. It’s probably affecting their mind as well.
We know that Alzheimer’s patients have large quantities of aluminum oxide in their brain tissue. And this stuff that
they’re spraying…
Jackie: Is it aluminum oxide or aluminum?
Alan: It’s aluminum. All types and traces of aluminum are detrimental in the brain. And unfortunately, that’s where it
seems to be taken up to and it gets deposited. So, it could certainly affect memory, for instance. I think it’s also
possible that there’s drugs in this stuff, since Rumsfeld came on after 9/11 and said that they had vast quantities of
aerosolized Prozac and Valium to spray over entire cities, if there’s another crisis, in order to calm the people. It makes
perfect sense as we go through these big changes we have to go through, and they are of a global change, basically, the
changes we have to go through. It makes perfect sense they’d want to drug the populace as we go through them and
bring us out into a completely new way of living. So, I wouldn’t put anything past them.
Jackie: That stuff I was talking about isn’t EDT, it’s EDTA. And I was thinking that maybe one of our wonderful
internet listeners might have time to do some real research on that. To find out about it. We’re going to be taking a
break here in about 15 seconds. And then we’ll be back after this. Folks, don’t go away. We’ll be back, with Alan
Watt.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: I did this before, but it’s just one paragraph. And I want to read this for our listeners. Maybe somebody will
check into this and get back with me. They’re talking about this chelation therapy of course, for the arteries, because it
removes the calcium plaque. But it says, “In the days after World War II, men, who worked in battery factories, or
painted ships with lead based paint, began coming down with lead poisoning from their high exposure in these jobs. A
safe, harmless chemical called EDTA, was found to be extremely effective for removing the lead from the men’s bodies.
An effective cure for lead poisoning. But something else happened. Many of the men who were treated with EDTA
enjoyed an apparent reduction in the symptoms of heart disease.” And they explain, this is Ethylenediaminetetraacetic
acid. It’s an amino acid. It says it was synthesized in Germany in 1935, and first patented in the US in 1941. And so, I
don’t know why I haven’t taken the time to do this, and I haven’t. I guess I was hoping one of our listeners would do it.
Anyway, that’s what it is. Either oral, or they do it by injection too. But I guess the injection is very, very expensive,
and the oral chelation therapy, taking it orally is a lot less expensive. And Darren asked me, remember we were talking
earlier today about that Dr. Doom? Dr. Eric Pianca is his name, and he was doing a talk. This was in March. Darren
said he talked about this on the air yesterday, last night, and this was the fifth of March that he did this speech, when he
said that 90% of the population had to be eliminated and he said that airborne Ebola would be the best way to do it. But
Darren wanted me to clean up something, because on this guy’s website there was a very extensive, what do you call it
when somebody dies?
Alan: Obituary. Is it obituary?
Jackie: Yeah, the obituary. Well, he had evidently written it himself, but at the top of it, it says not dead yet. So, this
was a long background on this man and all that he’s done and accomplished. He’s got a herd of bulls, of cows, and his
main bull’s name is Lucifer, Alan. Darren wanted me to clean that up, and let the listeners know. Because he thought
because he was looking at that obituary the guy was dead, he’s not. He said that on the 5th of March, and he’s
recommended airborne Ebola.
Alan: Was he speaking at some meeting or something public?
Jackie: Yeah, it was in Texas, Beaumont, Texas at Lamar University. And it was the Texas Academy of Science. And
the guy who exposed him was a member, according to, his name is Nim, Forest Nim. And he said that he was
associated or a member of the Texas Academy of Science, in their ecology department or something. And he said the
thing that really perked him up was just before Pianca came up to the mike, somebody went over to the guy that was
videotaping all the speakers, and the guy that had the video camera, I guess he pointed it up in the air and walked away
in a huff, because they didn’t videotape this speech. But the guy anyway that reported on it, no, we don’t know if this
whole thing is a hoax, but there is a website on this guy. You know for these accusations to be made and not be true, the
guy that made them could probably get himself in a real jam. Because he wrote it. Airborne Ebola.
Alan: Yeah, well, they don’t even need this guy, because the big boys have published enough on it themselves. You
know, they’ve published this over and over and over, about vastly reducing the population of the world to a more
suitable size for their new humanity. So, it doesn’t really matter about what this guy said. Jacques Cousteau said the
same thing himself, you know.
Jackie: I guess because it’s so recent.
Alan: It would be worthwhile if someone could check out and verify this did happen at this place in Texas.
Jackie: And allegedly the guy got a standing ovation when he was done.
Alan: Well, actually the signs and symptoms of the Spanish Flu, that happened in World War I, are very similar to Ebola
in some respects, because towards the end, they did hemorrhage from the eyes and so on. So, which makes you think
that probably the Spanish flu was a hybrid itself, a specially made one. And I wouldn’t be surprised.
Jackie: Now, I’ve read different accounts of this. But I’ve read accounts that they’ve said at least 50 million people died
of the Spanish Flu.
Alan: They do say that it killed more than all the participants who died in that first World War.
Jackie: But 50 million isn’t enough for them, is it, Alan?
Alan: No, they have their ideal society all figured out by statistics and so on. And they don’t need all the people they
have today in a post-industrial and post-technological society. They don’t need all the useless eaters, basically. And
that’s how the elite see the people. They see the people down below as being there to serve their needs, but when they
no longer need those people, they have no qualms in getting rid of them. And this has been in the works for an awful
long time. I don’t know if you ever saw the movie, Metropolis, the old movie. It was an old silent movie, in fact, about
the creation of new types of robots or cyborgs to take over the labor. And right in there, the scientist who creates them
says that we no longer need the workers. They’re now redundant, they’re obsolete. And that’s basically how they see
society today. We’re obsolete. They no longer need us. They have China to supply all the needs for the elite for
centuries to come.
Jackie: I remember reading about a very plush getaway that they’ve created in China for the elite. I guess Kissinger,
Henry Kissinger spends a lot of time there. It’s a whole complex for them with all the comforts, you know, that the elite
expect and want with their entertainment and their fine dining, and places to stay and stuff like that, in China.
Alan: These guys are internationalists, you see, even though they rule countries, or have helped rule or create the
destinies of countries, they themselves have always been international. And so, they don’t care which country they
make their base for any particular generation. So, they have no problems in moving to China, or wherever else it’s
needed. They have no affinity to the people, you see.
Jackie: Well, as you pointed out a long time ago, some of the rulers, of any of the countries, well, maybe England, I
don’t know, but they weren’t the same nationality as the people they were ruling.
Alan: That’s right. I mean, the Normans came into England in the 11th Century, and they’ve interbred amongst
themselves ever since. And with their relatives in other European countries, but they’ve never interbred with the
ordinary people. So, they’ve never seen themselves really as belonging to those people to whom they rule over. And
that’s no different from the Kissinger types who came in from Germany. He was already an internationalist in the elite
category, in his ideology, and they’re all the same at the top, really. And the hope of all the workers beneath them, who
help them, the lower members of the CFR, etc, is to one day, to get accepted to be up amongst this international elite.
Most of them have got a fat chance of getting there, mind you, but they’ll grovel and do what they’re told in the hope
that they may also get up there. But the guys towards the top, in fact, they have hardly any empathy or affinity to
humankind in general. Let’s be honest about it. Mr. Kissinger, when he was in office with Nixon, put through that bill
that declared that the greatest enemy to the state was overpopulation. And then they put that massive funding towards
ways of vastly reducing the populations by all means possible. So that’s the kind of characters we’re dealing with here,
you know. And now these guys are in power, they belong to the top associations in the world. They have the power to
implement what they want. They tell us what they want. And we better take them seriously when they say these things.
They mean it. They’re not guessing or putting out a wish list, you know.
Jackie: Ten years ago, reading about it, I didn’t disbelieve it. But it’s beyond the realm of your comprehension to really
get it. And then when you see what is happening today, we realize we’re living it.
Alan: That’s right. The average person, you see, we’ll make excuses for them. We actually make excuses, because we
cannot believe that they mean what they say. Because, I wouldn’t do that, and you wouldn’t do that, so therefore they
couldn’t do it, they wouldn’t do that. That’s how we think, you see. But we’re dealing with different creatures here.
They’re psychopathic in nature. They’re interbred with long lineages of psychopaths. And they have no empathy for
the public. They believe in audacity. That’s the whole terminology of knighthood, which they all belong to these
knightly Masonic associations. A knight is bold and audacious. He does things which are outside the norms of normal
morality or rules. They break all the rules. And that’s also the definition of a psychopath as well. They break all the
social norms and don’t fret about it, you know. Hello?
Jackie: I’m here. I’m listening, and I’m thinking. I wondered. I had received that email. And this wasn’t an email
saying you’re so full of it, or you’re going to go to hell, or like that. But this is from a guy who’s been at the website. I
don’t know if he’s listening. I don’t know if he’s listened to any of the broadcasts yet, but I did email him today, and
encouraged him, you know, to tune in and listen. And one of his questions, and I know that you’ve said this before, but
it doesn’t hurt to repeat some of these things. He was asking about Revelation. And he says if Revelation has already
come to pass, well, what does Jesus got in store for us. And I wonder if you would share with our listeners once again
what you mentioned about Revelation and comment on that question.
Alan: Well, Revelations is a… I mean I generally never get sidetracked by the ones who do this deliberately to sidetrack
it. And they are out there, you know.
Jackie: But I don’t think he was though.
Alan: But I think he may have been, because I think the website, our website got the same message. But Revelations has
many meanings on different levels, and it takes too long to explain them all. It’s a mystic, gnostic interpretation. It’s a
brotherhood interpretation. That’s why it’s written in mystical language. But Armageddon happened about AD 70 or
72, when the Romans took the last castle on the mountain. And of course, that was over the plains of Megiddo. The
mountain in Hebrew is called Har, so it’s Har-Megiddo, Harmegiddon. That’s what that meant. That’s what it was all
written about at that time. The rest of it, yeah, and so they can always resuscitate it and bring it back to life, because you
can use revelations over and over for any generation, if you make the sequences happen and the right events happen.
And of course, on a higher level, it’s all the zodiacal time cycle. And people who want to understand the Zodiac should
get the third book of Cutting Through, because I go through into the Esoteric Interpretations of Revelations, which has
nothing to do with what people think it has. The Exoteric is simply taught to obedient Christians, so that they’ll think
that everything is inevitable and that it’s God’s will. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book, is to make you think,
well, it’s pre-ordained, there’s nothing you can do about it. And, in fact, if you try and stop it, you’re fighting God
himself. You know. That’s the greatest form of psychological warfare ever devised, and that technique is ancient.
That’s why they used to use the Oracles, the priesthoods ran the Oracles at Delphi and other places. And when the
Oracle spoke, then you better do what you were told, because if not, you were going against the god’s will. So, it’s all
pre-ordained. And they love to teach you everything is pre-ordained, you can’t change anything. What a beautiful
weapon against the public, you know, not to try to change things; accept your destiny.
Jackie: In your book one, did you talk about the international priesthood?
Alan: Yeah, I talked how ancient it was, and how it had always been here. And I know that they didn’t just dream up
this system beginning with Sumer about 5,000 or 6,000 BC. These techniques came from much earlier times. There’s
been many, many civilizations prior to that.
Jackie: And if they have been in control, as it appears they have. You know, after you told us about that. The
international priesthood. Things that I’ve read. So many things that I’ve read, of ancient history, they’ve mentioned the
priesthood, but they just mention it in passing. And these are things that I had read before, that once I re-read them,
that’s what jumps out at me. The priesthood is always mentioned, Alan. And the priesthood was all-powerful.
Alan: Always.
Jackie: They were the ones ruling the kings, ruling the pharaohs. And they have had that control as it certainly appears
now that they have all down through the ages. They’re the ones that were in control of the writings. You know, the
Bible.
Alan: The legal system, yeah. We know in Sumer they had so many different specialized priesthoods. Today we’d call
them basically categories of bureaucrats, really. Because they had lawyer priesthoods that dealt with real estate and
land. Other ones dealt with the trading that went in and out of Sumer. They had a priesthood for everything you can
imagine, specializing in different areas. And they also were responsible for mating up kings and queens, so they were
into eugenics back then, too. So, yeah, the priesthoods were always in charge. They also decided who the pharaohs
would see, as ambassadors and who wouldn’t get in to see the pharaoh. So they had tremendous power. There was one
pharaoh in Egypt who realized that he was almost a bird in a gilded cage. And he caught on to the fact that certain
envoys were being turned away by the priests and he never got to see them. And he found out by yelling to some of
them out of his window. And one day he jumped out of the window trying to get away, and he was caught, and brought
back by the priests.
Jackie: Who was that?
Alan: Oh, I’ve got his name somewhere tucked away in my computer brain somewhere.
Jackie: You told us about the one pharaoh, Akhenaten, that he actually got rid of the priesthood, and was teaching the
one god or creator, and then after he died, they just, like he never existed.
Alan: Not really. Akhenaten, there was much, much more to the Akhenaten story then. But Aton is part of the sun god
worship, or the symbology of what’s behind the sun or light and all that in Masonry. And that’s why you find places
like Manhattan, you know, it’s named after him, in a nice esoteric way. It’s all through High Masonry, Aton. And that’s
where the word atone comes from. Atonement, etc. But it was really an elitist religion, this ‘god is one’ idea. And also,
it’s a truth behind all their religions, even in Brahma, that all the faces of god is just a face of the one deity. That’s what
it really means, and it’s the same with the Egyptian pantheon. They’re all aspects of the same deity. Now, that had
always been taught esoterically to the priests, whereas in Akhenaten’s day they came out openly. However it was only
for the nobility who could get the life of Aton. It wasn’t for the ordinary people. It was still an elitist group. So, each
one is a long story, but interesting.
Jackie: I can remember us talking, you talking about this. I think it’s on that first series, when you were on for five
weeks at a time, all at one time. And you mention Akhenaten, in a favorable way. You said that even when he had his
statues or whatever, that he didn’t have himself all puffed up, he was kind of pot-bellied.
Alan: He had big hips. He probably had bigger hips than his wife. But the one thing about Akhenaten was, when the
invasion of Egypt was under way, he ignored all of the warnings that were coming from the outlying areas, which Egypt
looked after, or was part of their empire, and he allowed the invasion to occur in Egypt. And no one has ever explained
why he allowed this. He didn’t go out to fight them, or send the armies out to fight them.
Jackie: Who were the invaders?
Alan: You had these Hyksos people, and the Habirus, coming in, and they’d already taken some of the outlying areas.
And they were sending urgent messages to his new capital. And those Armarna tablets have all been unearthed with
these messages contained there, urgent pleas. But he didn’t lift a finger to stop it, which makes no sense, unless you
realize that he probably and some of the other elite were moving on after this. Because it made no sense that he didn’t
try to defend Egypt. I think in other words, it was a set-up. It was time for the elite to move on.
Jackie: This priesthood, was it the Isle of Crete you said, that there was evidence that they sat there, the probability or
possibility, and wrote all the religions?
Alan: They’ve unearthed these huge monastic libraries there. Where they had the religions of all the peoples of the
mainlands, and it seemed to be a central hub where these missionaries went out and were basically updating each
different variety’s religion for them, you might say. Like a central command, in charge of all the various peoples and
the various religions. And that does make sense to me.
Jackie: Yeah. One of the important things, if we could get it, is that religions were made by man. All religions,
including Christianity. There’s nowhere in the book, and of course we know there’s fifty-some versions of the Bible,
but even in the one, King James, that so many people believe is the word of God. There’s no place in there where Jesus
said he was coming here to start a religion. He said he was coming to bear witness unto the truth.
Alan: Truth, yeah.
Jackie: I mean, you know, that’s what they attribute to him, as his words.
Alan: And that’s the best you could do in this world, because you won’t get much further than trying to get the truth out.
Jackie: Right, exactly.
Alan: Those that control religions will take over.
Jackie: Right, so many people seem to miss that. As he said, I came here for one reason into this world, and that is to
bear witness unto the truth. And it’s almost like you could see back then the same thing that’s going on today. And
here’s an individual who is trying to help the people to break their prison chains from their minds, of what was going on
at that time.
Alan: And then the establishment takes it over and uses the truth to imprison the people. That’s always been the way.
It’s no different today. You say the truth. Many small people say the truth, and once enough are saying it, then they
give you a superstar to take all those truths you are saying, get to the top, get well known, and then start spinning the
truth off in a different direction and renders it harmless.
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April 5th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Alan had
mentioned last night, when we didn’t have an intro to the broadcast, because I was filling in for Darren, that we really
do, because it’s grandfather chiming. And I suppose when the weather turns warmer, I’ll be back in the studio, and we
won’t have the interruptions. You will, I trust, bear with us through this. It’s just too cold to sit in there for an hour, at
the broadcasting equipment there, and do this broadcast. So, I’m here in the family room, and that’s right where
grandfather is. Today is Wednesday, it is the 5th of April, in the year 2006. And I’m glad you’ve joined us tonight.
…And Alan Watt, thank you for being here with us again this evening.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: I guess I should just say, it’s Jackie and Alan.
Alan: That’s it.
Jackie: You know, when I was reading this I was thinking about, Alan, that state of being I guess that we call peace. It
is difficult to remember and to knowing what we know that’s going on today and the heartache that’s in this world, and
the wars and the killing and the dying and it’s difficult to have that place in your mind or in your heart that’s at peace.
Alan: I think that’s the reason for it. I don’t think there’s a generation that’s been allowed to live in any kind of peace or
tranquility since the beginning of this whole system. Because the control of government depends on war or having
threats of war from others. And that’s really the primary reason for being for government. That was its first reason,
supposedly. And they’ve got to keep wars going, you know.
Jackie: It makes all the sense in the world, Alan. You know, when you said that, because you’ve said it before, it takes a
while for that to really register. Even as, like you said, the borders, they created national borders.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And the only reason that we have borders is that we’ll have something to fight to “defend and protect”.
Alan: That’s right. And then the biggest scam is, especially when you look at Europe, they have the same families in
charge of every country having wars with each other. The families never get killed off in the wars.
Jackie: Of course they don’t.
Alan: And yet, that’s the prime reason for pretending that they’re the rightful rulers of those countries, that we’re here to
defend you. And so, war has been essential for maintaining control over the public up until now. When they have
substitutes for war, there’s many substitutes too. There’s economic depressions, and plagues, and all the usual stuff they
can conjure up, to keep us off balance and subservient and fearful, so that we’ll always obey and do what we’re told.
So, fear is essential, again, for government, to keep and maintain control. In fact, government is force, like Washington
said.
Jackie: Government is force?
Alan: We always tend to forget that. You see, most law is accepted by the public, when it’s relatively peaceful, or at
least if they can survive with an extra tax or a fee or whatever it’s called, they’ll dish out the extra fee or license or
whatever, and accept that, rather than rebel against it, because the threat of force is always there. So, most people will
acquiesce and go along with it. But they all know that force is there to back it up, if they don’t go along, you know.
Jackie: You know, I’m going to use an example that came to my mind. In Pennsylvania State law, and I think what got
me looking into it was a friend in Missouri, who told me what the law was there. It’s the same law in Pennsylvania, and
maybe it’s the same law in every state, that commercial drivers have to have licenses. And it says it very explicitly.
And so, if a person is stopped, and they don’t have a driver’s license, and they say, well I don’t have to have one,
because, even if you quote the law and show them the law, and here it is, I am not a commercial driver, they take you to
jail, if you resist taking a ticket. It’s happened over and over and over to people. And so, even the stupid laws they
have, it just doesn’t matter, Alan.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: It doesn’t matter. They say, no, you have to have a license to drive.
Alan: That’s right. And what they do, most things are done first of all, it’s voluntary. That’s how they brought driving
licensing in, in most countries, initially. And then, even road insurance initially was voluntary as well. And then, once
enough people have got it, then they bring in the democracy part. Well, it’s a democratic system. The majority have
accepted it, what’s wrong with you? That’s how they use democracy.
Jackie: Remember reading about when the income tax was brought in, and I think, wasn’t it after the Second World
War, and they were asking people to give a certain percentage of their income to help cover the cost of the war. And it
was totally voluntarily. Voluntary. And then they didn’t stop it. They kept raising the taxes. Pretty soon, income tax.
Alan: It’s tradition. It becomes tradition.
Jackie: Yeah. And of course, people have gone to jail, that have tried to go into the courts, and say, well, but this is a
voluntary system and I am not volunteering. It doesn’t matter.
Alan: It doesn’t matter, no. Once they’ve got it on their books, they don’t let it go. It’s a tremendous income for them.
And even though the reason for not taxing income prior to that was that a tax on income is therefore a form of slavery.
That was in the law books. But they conveniently forgot that, once they accepted it on the books. And Britain was the
same. It was called the temporary war tax, and that was how it was introduced.
Jackie: Temporary war tax. And people gave. And you know what? I read about, oh, what the heck was, it was some
act, the Douglas Act or something. They passed it in the Congress here, and I think they allocated, I forget how many
millions of dollars it was to help rebuild Europe. And after Europe was all rebuilt, the money just kept pouring over
there, Alan, out of the “taxes” that they were collecting from the people in the US of A.
Alan: It’s a giant scam. I mean, finance has always been international. We must never forget that. And war is essential
for the ongoing of their financing and their interest is essential for the continuation of their system. If the interest was
paid up, the banks would lose all power, so you must have ongoing interest all the time. Debt is essential for their
system. And war, again, is partly a demolition job. And the reconstruction job for their plans for the future. That’s
really what it’s all about, you know, and you see that in the Second World War, where they had plans. I mean, Hopkins
that was working with Roosevelt, had plans drawn up for the Reconstruction of Europe. They even had huge plans for
even city centers, and what kind of stores would be in there, knowing the big chain stores would get in first of all. And
they had Japan all set up to be the producer for electronics for the future, which it did become. And they set up the
Japanese banking system, where the government really acts on behalf as the banker, and gives out the loans to the
businesses, and decides who will get business and who will not. So that was all set and planned at least during World
War II, and probably prior to it, I’d imagine. I don’t think Hopkins did it all himself. So, they had the whole future of
Europe designed for a United Europe. That was all part of the demolition job. Destroy the old, and build up the new,
for a new era, you know.
Jackie: And I don’t know if it was in Creatures of Jekyll Island, or where, because, you know, after you read so much
and hear so much, but I recall that when they decided they were going to have a war, and they, well, that was Norman
Dodd, of course, who testified, you know, to that legislative committee, in Illinois, back in I think it was ’78, that got
into the Carnegie records. Wasn’t it Carnegie, Alan?
Alan: It was the Reece Commission, I think.
Jackie: Yeah it was B. Carroll Reece. Yeah, Congressman Reece. And Norman Dodd was, he had a position on the
committee. But he said when he went to the Carnegie foundation, they said, well, to see their minutes in that, because
the Reece Commission was to study the foundations to investigate the tax-exempt foundations. And he said, they told
him, well, we’d like to help you, but our job was done after the UN, you know, after the US entered the UN, and they’re
all in some warehouse someplace, but if you want to go looking, you can do it. And that’s what he found, that they
were sitting there. It was, I think 1906, decided that there was going to be a war, and they decided it would be in the
Balkans, it would start in the Balkans someplace. And then, when they decided to do it, they said in 1914, well, we’ll
wait, until the Federal Reserve Act is passed in the US, and then the American people can pay for the war. And so, in
1916, the Federal Reserve Act was passed, and in 1917, World War, wasn’t it? Or that’s when they brought the US into
the War? When did World War I start?
Alan: In 1917 they brought the US in.
Jackie: Yeah, it was in ’17 that they brought the US in.
Alan: But what they did too was they brought over from Germany one of the Warburg brothers to be the head of the
Federal Reserve in the US. And his brother was the Federal Reserve guy for the Germans.
Jackie: Oh, boy, Alan.
Alan: And then at the Treaty of Versailles, the two guys that presided for both countries for the debt were the two
brothers. What a joke, you know. What a joke.
Jackie: Yeah. When you were talking about Japan being set up, you know to be the electronics producer. Sony.
Alan: Standard Oil of New York.
Jackie: Standard Oil of New York. Thank you. I couldn’t remember what the S was for. Standard Oil of New York
was the Japanese Sony. God, Alan.
Alan: Everything is planned way in advance in the real world. Not at level one reality that we’re kept in here. In level
one reality we see the effects of things, and the media gives us the effects of things, but they never tell us of all the
planning that went into it. It was the Council on Foreign Relations that introduced the income tax bill in the United
States for Americans. That’s who you have to thank for that. And in Britain, it was the Royal Institute of International
Affairs that introduced it at the same time in Britain. The same club. It’s the same group. And this was the same bunch
who came out on television here, last March, a year ago, and announced the necessity, officially, in their first time in an
official capacity, speaking from the board of the Council on Foreign Relations. They appeared on our television, not as
individual advisors or whatever, but an actual panel, saying we had to unite the Americas. And one week later, Mr.
Bush and Paul Martin and Fox signed the agreement for the United Americas. So, they’re telling us that they were
behind it. This unelected government. And they’re a non-governmental body. That’s what they say in all their books.
They’re a private organization.
Jackie: Well, you know what the United Nations is called. It isn’t, it’s not a non-governmental organization, it’s an
intergovernmental organization.
Alan: They’re actually a non-governmental organization.
Jackie: They are. I know they are. But they call themselves.
Alan: Because they’re unelected. They’re a private organization that was started up by the Rothschilds and Cecil
Rhodes and Lord Milner, back in the 1800s, and they’ve decided our policy from then until today, and they have their
international meetings. Politicians can become members of it, if asked to be. There’s a private club. And they say that
in all their books, they’re a non-political, non-governmental organization.
Jackie: The UN says that?
Alan: No, the actual Council on Foreign Relations.
Jackie: Oh, CFR. Okay. I was referring to the United Nations.
Alan: Well, they’re the same thing.
Jackie: I know it is. It’s non-governmental.
Alan: The UN is always talking about democracy, and how every country must be democratic, and yet, I don’t know
anyone who’s had a vote in saying who gets into the UN. We don’t get any votes on it. The public have no votes
whatsoever.
Jackie: Oh, yes, we do. Alan, yes we do.
Alan: In what sense?
Jackie: Well, we’re, I’m being facetious. The voice of the people are the NGOs.
Alan: Well, yeah, but really, the public really have no say in it.
Jackie: Yeah. I know they don’t. But they say that is the Parliament of the People.
Alan: Yeah, supposedly.
Jackie: The Parliament of the People, because almost everybody, for example, Boy and Girl Scouts are NGOs, and they
have, I mean, it’s international. It isn’t just in the US of A, and they’re part of it all. So, every child that’s in Girl
Scouts, Boy Scouts. Anybody, any business that joins, what the heck is it called, oh, you know what it is. I was in it.
Alan: The Rotary Club?
Jackie: No, it’s not Rotary. It’s, oh, damn. Businesses join it, to be, you know, part of the club. I was part of it. I’m
just having a brain fade. They have it in every tiny little town and city, and then they have state, then they have
national, then they have international. And you get to looking at it, the hundreds of thousands of people who are
members. It’s not coming up, Alan. But anyway, it will, but that is considered to them the voice of the people.
Alan: And also, the Police Chiefs Associations across the world, they have their own organization attached to the United
Nations. The building codes of America, Britain, everywhere come from the United Nations, from plumbing to
electrical to building.
Jackie: They have International Mayors Associations. And I was thinking about the Chambers of Commerce. That’s
the biggie. And you know what? For our listeners, in our section at Sweet Liberty on the United Nations, we have a
thing there on NGOs. Alan, it just makes you squirm when you read it.
Alan: Well, you see, that’s the Soviet. What it is, it’s the Soviet system. That’s what Soviet means, government by
councils. And in the Soviet system, it’s the same as this one; the heads of the NGOs are paid for by the big boys like
Rockefeller, and financed by them, to pretend that they speak on behalf of the people. And it’s the same with the Soviet
system. The Politburo picked the leaders and gave them the politically correct format. And of course, they would
demand on behalf of the public what the politicians wanted. So, that’s exactly the same thing. Because the bankers set
up the Soviet Union and financed them through their whole existence. The West financed it, funded them. HG Wells
and all the biggies went over there. Royalty went over to the Soviet Union and got grand tours of their system. And of
course, it was a big experiment on socialism, which is a form of elite control over the masses. That’s what socialism
really is.
Jackie: I’ve got a thing here from the United Nations. It’s one of their publications. And on the front cover of it, it says
that the United Nations, their whole goal is to become a True World Parliament. And the three things they needed: they
needed their own standing army. Well, they need the legislative. They need, just like the parliaments or the
governments have, the legal, you know, the International Criminal Court, the International Courts, but they need their
own standing army. And they need their own taxation system. And they have to have a Parliament of the People. And
that Parliament of the People is what we’re talking about, the NGOs.
Alan: Yeah, POP.
Jackie: Pop.
Alan: That’s right, big daddy.
Jackie: I wonder if he’s related to Uncle Sam?
Alan: Very possibly, because if you read Franklin’s writings, Benjamin Franklin said, and so did Jefferson, about the
US, he said, this is the beginning of a Federation of States, which will eventually become a World Federation of States.
That was the function of the United States in the first place.
Jackie: And you said that many years ago, Alan.
Alan: But they made it quite clear in their writings, that was to be the beginning of a world federation. And Franklin
said it would be a world run by a Council of Twelve Wise Men.
Jackie: Do you know we’ve been doing radio together for eight years? That’s a long time, Alan.
Alan: I know, yeah.
Jackie: That’s a long. What I mean is, God, I just think it’s so wonderful that we’ve had an opportunity to present this
information to so many people, and here we are, still doing it.
Alan: I know. And until recently, we haven’t had a single offer, or made a guest appearance on any of the other
shortwave broadcasts that were on the go.
Jackie: Well, you’re not getting them, well, maybe you are, on shortwave broadcasts, but you’re getting them on
mainstream.
Alan: Isn’t that amazing.
Jackie: I think it’s just fantastic.
Alan: Yeah, that’s the other thing, is unfortunately, I always tell people, we’re under so much surveillance, and
information is power, of course, therefore, information has always been under lock and key. And why would the allseeing
eye miss the shortwave radio, that claims to be so patriotic? You know. People should be really cautious about
what they get from it, really, you know. It doesn’t mean that everyone on it is deceiving them, but I’m sure many of
them are as well knowingly.
Jackie: I know. Early on, I had been invited on different, you know, broadcasts to be a guest. It’s been years since I
have ever been invited to be a guest on any shortwave or alternative radio. Literally, it has. And I can remember when
they used to do those symposiums, those expos, you know, survival expos and stuff, all over the country, and they were
all there, except me. I’ve never been invited. One time, I even asked, because they said they were going to set up a
round table. This is the gang, you know, a whole bunch of the broadcasters, and they were going to have a round table,
of the broadcasters, and see if they couldn’t come up with some type of grassroots plan. I said, God, I would love to be
part of that. I have some thoughts. I mean, we were grassroots, and we did some work, Alan. Truly did some work.
’93, ’94, ’95, right in their faces. And I said, do you think I could be on that. I think I was talking to Jeff, and he said,
well, I don’t see why not, I’ll get back with you. I never heard back from them. They didn’t want me. I felt so outside.
I’m being facetious. I am.
Alan: The problem is too, I think shortwave, I mean, I know, it’s been printed here in some of the newspapers a few
years ago that the Christian broadcasting was set up in the 1950s to combat Communist propaganda. And they used
Christian fronts to do it, and the CIA set them up. And I thought, well, the CIA has maybe never let them go, because I
hear so much. I mean, the Patriot business is a business. It’s a huge business. And it’s all fear-based selling, stuff for
every calamity under the sun and even outside of the universe, even.
Jackie: A few years ago, it was before Chuck passed away, so it’s been at least three and a half, four years. They were
having an Expo in Texas. And I started getting calls from listeners, and they said, you might be at the Expo in Texas. I
said, what? And sure enough, I heard from enough people, that I realized that that’s what he was saying. And you
know, what they were, our listeners were saying, is, Jackie, they’re using that to get people to come there. You know,
people who want to meet you. So I called up on John’s program one day, and they were talking about the Expo and
everything, and I called up, and I said, I understand that you have told your listeners that I may be coming to the Expo in
Texas. He said, well, I didn’t say you were, I just said you might be. I said, well, where in the world did you ever get
that idea? I said, I’ve never been invited to one of the Expos. And then John said to Clay, well, did you invite her,
Clay? And Clay said, I actually hadn’t thought about inviting her. And I said, well, I just want to make it real clear to
your listeners, I’m not going to be in Texas for the Expo. So, there’s a few who just are set apart, and I suppose we’re
set apart, Alan, because we don’t pull punches.
Alan: No. You see, you can’t get truth if you shy away from certain holy areas, you might say. To get truth, you have
to be willing to go across all, or through all barriers to seek it. And of course, they know themselves that it’s a business.
It’s a patriot business. It’s a huge market, fear-based selling is huge. And yet, they can only do it on fear-based shows,
where the sky is always falling every day, you know. And that’s the sad truth about people who manipulate reality in
order to profit by themselves by very large amounts, I might add, you know. See, this is one of the conditions of
humanity that has to be shown to the public. If this type of behavior doesn’t change, nothing will change. The
psychopathic drive within people to exploit others has to stop, because if we don’t stop it at the bottom, then what right
do we demand that the ones at the top stop their exploitation of us. We have nothing to stand on. And that’s at the basis
of all of this. The psychopath in society in this civilization as they call it, their civilization, gets to the top because they
have no conscience.
Jackie: Because they have no conscience. We’re going to take a break here.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay. We’re back with Alan Watt. …Alan’s website, I want to give that to you to make sure that in case you
don’t have it. Alan’s website is .com. There’s a video there. And I know that you’ll want to see it. There’s a lot of
information there. And the books, the three books that Alan has written, there are excerpts of the books, Cutting
Through the BS, the way it seems to me. That’s not the name of them. But it’s Cutting Through 1, 2, and 3. And when
you go to his website, you can check out and literally read some of the excerpts from the books. And you definitely
want to do that. And I want to remind you also, that Alan is going to be a guest, on George Noory. Alan, today is
Wednesday the 5th, and you’re going to be on the 10th. Well, actually in the morning of the 11th, but that would be
Monday? Okay, Monday folks. And I mean, this has got to be, Alan this is about the most exciting information that
I’ve heard in such a long time. George Noory, of course, this is the old Art Bell show, folks. They’re syndicated on
about 400 or more radio stations. And Alan is going to be able to get out probably to millions of people. It’s a
wonderful opportunity. And it’s on Monday the 10th, although by the time we’re listening, Eastern time, it’s going to
be 2am, on the 11th. So, whatever your time zone is, in Pacific time, it would be 11 o’clock. In Mountain, it would be
12, Central it would be 1, Eastern it’s 2am, on the morning of Tuesday. I’m staying up. I’m not going to take a chance
on missing it. Alan, are you kind of excited about this?
Alan: I was thinking about staying up myself.
Jackie: You mean you’re not going to go to sleep and set an alarm clock?
Alan: No, I don’t think so.
Jackie: I don’t know, this is like a miracle to me.
Alan: Well, as I say, it’s a long time a-coming. We just plodded on sort of year after year, teaching individuals, really,
and now it’s come to a stage where maybe we can reach a lot more, at a very critical time in our history.
Jackie: It is. Yes. And you know, I’m always saying, with God, Creator, all things are possible. And I do know that
that is so. Nothing is impossible. And you and I have talked about this. You’ve said it yourself. They’ve never been
successful in fully completing their plan. If they were…
Alan: They have built-in flaws that go with their personalities. They have built-in flaws that go with their personality
type. And you can only get so much satisfaction lording over other people. And then you have to start to get
something, a better opponent, you might say. And as they get closer to their ambitions, these people will have to start
fighting each other. It’s an Achilles Heel. They can’t stop themselves. Because they all seek ultimate power. And now
they’re seeing this World Government come into view openly. They want to declare it openly to the public. But there’s
only one throne at the top, you see. And these guys would love to have their name chiseled in stone for eternity.
They’re always making statues of themselves. And that’s when the struggles will begin.
Jackie: And you said you think they’re already beginning.
Alan: Oh, I’m sure of it, actually. That’s why I always say that human beings cannot handle godhood. Human beings
can’t handle it. They’re too petty. And it’s never changed from the days…
Jackie: Well, now, it depends. If we’re talking Jehovah.
Alan: Oh, all of them. I mean, look at the Greek mythologies, where the gods are always bickering and they’re jealous,
and they play games behind each other’s backs and stuff, and that’s human nature, you see.
Jackie: And look at all the stuff Jehovah did to prove that he was god almighty.
Alan: Oh, yeah. And only a tyrant really uses force to prove the point. That’s a very human thing. It’s not a godly
thing. And people who want to be gods. And these guys at the top truly believe they are, you know.
Jackie: They’re raised to believe that way, aren’t they, Alan?
Alan: They’re raised, and they also have an inner religion. We see it going all the way back to ancient Rome. That’s
why Washington has a monument there. That’s apotheosis. High Freemasonry, where you’re raised into the status of a
god.
Jackie: What’s apotheosis?
Alan: That’s raising to godhood. And you’ll see the same things with the tyrants of Rome. They had their own ones
chiseled and so on. And that’s what apotheosis means. And because Washington started the kickoff for this final round
of the New World Order, the Novus Ordo Seclorum, he’s given the honor of being raised to godhood. It was the first
openly Freemasonic national creation.
Jackie: We’re talking about the Washington Monument?
Alan: Yeah, and the creation of the US. That was its function.
Jackie: Well, you know, I don’t know if this is true, but I had read that when they were trying to get the Constitutional
Convention together, there weren’t, states just weren’t coming into it. And George Washington, you know, had retired.
And then, when they started proclaiming that George Washington was going to be there, that’s when the states at that
time got their delegates together to go to the Constitutional Convention. And so, that certainly would make, you know,
give them a reason to raising to godhood, wouldn’t it?
Alan: It was an open, well, I say open; it was a closed-door meeting when they supposedly—they didn’t draft it up in
that hall.
Jackie: No, they didn’t.
Alan: Because, I mean, we know that Franklin, during the Revolution, was the ambassador to France. And he was
showing copies all over France, long before that. So, it was already pre-drafted. And they just had their little Masonic
meeting in that hall, and closed the doors, and guarded them from the public.
Jackie: And nailed the windows shut.
Alan: Well, it’s the temple with closed windows, with darkened windows, that’s the Masonic temple.
Jackie: Say again.
Alan: That’s the temple with no windows. They have to always cover the windows in a lodge meeting. That’s a
Masonic lodge meeting. And that’s why you had 55 of them in there and only 33 had to sign it, for the 33 degrees.
Jackie: Oh, my. I didn’t know that, Alan.
Alan: So, it was an open Masonic creation.
Jackie: And George Washington signed the charter for the first bank. Gave them a twenty-year charter. So, certainly.
He deserved to be raised to godhood, didn’t he?
Alan: He certainly played his part well. And he profited well, because he gathered so much land during the Revolution,
that he had, I think, ten times more afterwards. So, his accountants were very busy. But that’s the reality of the world
we live in. It’s run by very high secret societies, in collusion with very rich men in the world. And they plan the future.
They always plan a future, which they will always be in charge of. As I say, Franklin wrote in his own memoirs, that
nobody reads anymore, and so did Jefferson, that that was the beginning of a Federation of the World, you know. And
they’d eventually have a World Council run by Twelve Wise Men. That’s in their own documentation. And who leads
the charge for the… Who brought out the League of Nations?
Jackie: How could somebody read something like that when they don’t even know it exists, Alan? See, that’s the point.
I’m putting myself back in the place where I was. I believed, you know, as a little, as a child, when we were taught in
history that he cut down a cherry tree, and told his father, father I cannot tell a lie. I believed it, Alan. And I believed
he was a wonderful, our first president. Abraham Lincoln was my hero when I was in the fourth grade. Because he
stopped slavery. And I memorized the Gettysburg Address. Not because it was like a required thing, but it meant that
much to me. So, it isn’t that people won’t read that stuff. They don’t even know it exists.
Alan: Well, Hollywood has taken over the teaching of dramatic revised history. And of course, the visual with the
emotion in it and so on, has far more of an impact than reading a book by the actual author himself. You know, a
Franklin or an Adams or any of them.
Jackie: I know, but something, something has to be a catalyst. A seed has to be planted, Alan, for anybody, even a
child, to say, wait a minute, that isn’t true. Because, I mean, you’ve known this stuff, evidently, since you were born.
So, I can relate to what it was like to be truly caught in that system. I mean, I believed that December 25th was the
birthday of Jesus. It was the most precious time of the whole year for me, every year, ever. And it wasn’t just gift
giving. You see what I’m saying, Alan. So, we lived in those lies. And until somebody says something to you. Alan,
you blew us out of the, you blew us away, so far away. Well, you know, you and I talked on the telephone. You and I
talked on the telephone for six months before I invited you to come on. And I remember the first day you called me.
And it was in ’98, it was the summer of ’98. And I answered the phone. It was after I got off the air, you know, after
6pm. And you said, hello, and just started talking, and I found myself listening to you. I had the phone, pressed up
against my head. And it was like I was listening to you with every cell of my body. And you know, when I said, well
wait a minute. Why are we having this conversation? Why did you call me? And then after, you know, we kept
talking. You kept calling. We kept talking. And I was like, well, who is this guy. You knew so much that it was
unreal to me. And finally, it was in December of 1998, and I don’t know what the heck we were talking about, but I
thought, oh, my God, my listeners have got to hear him. And you came on. And then, of course, as you remember, they
kept saying, keep, bring him back. Bring him back. Bring him back. But, Alan, you have to keep remembering in your
mind that those of us who are caught in that, it isn’t because we don’t care. It is because we don’t know.
And then, when you say something to somebody, like a friend that was visiting. When I started talking about, you know
the hurricanes and weather control. And he said, oh no, uh-uh, uh-uh. That’s too vague. That can’t happen. Duh, duh,
duh, duh, duh. And I tried to explain. And he said, you’re not going to convince me. I said, I don’t want to convince
you, but I would like to give you some information and hope that what you see will want you to look at it further, and
then you will make up your own mind. But he wasn’t even interested in seeing it, Alan. So those are the ones, we say,
okay, goodbye. You know. But it’s planting seeds. And you know, that’s what you’ve been doing so beautifully, for
all these eight years to Sweet Liberty listeners, and people that call you. And, but it’s so far out of your realm, because
you’ve always been “conscious” that it’s hard for you to relate to those of us who have been caught into it. And it’s a
tough damn pill to swallow, Alan.
Alan: It is tough. But you see, I know too, growing up in Britain, for instance. I kept wondering why they put on these
silly dramatizations of upper crust families in the 18th or 17th centuries. It was always the upper crust families, you
know. And I thought, they’re painting this as a paradise of the past.
Jackie: The ones with the maids and butlers.
Alan: And the spotless clothes and carriages and horses. And yet, any library would tell you that that was for a very
small tiny few. And the rest of them lived in awful misery during the Industrial Era, where you were lucky to hit thirty
years of age. Very lucky, actually, if you hit that. And you would be crippled by the time you did reach that age.
Jackie: And that’s not an exaggeration.
Alan: Not at all. Even Franklin mentions it in his own memoirs. He says, he saw the factories in England when he was
over in England, and he saw the factory workers coming out with no shoes, and they’d come from a shoe factory. They
couldn’t afford to buy the shoes they made. And that was standard. He said, America could only keep independence on
an individual basis, as long as it remained on an agricultural level.
Jackie: Yes. And they did away with that, didn’t they?
Alan: That’s right. So, they all knew that. Jefferson knew it too. He said the same thing. And at the same time as they
knew that, guys like Jefferson were already investing in armament companies abroad on an industrial basis. In fact,
Jefferson helped to design the first, they call it, stamp plate parts for the flintlock, whereas before they were all
handmade and filed to fit. It was actually machine parts he was designing for factories in Europe, to make muskets.
Whereas before each musket was handmade, every part.
Jackie: They were making the die for them.
Alan: He was making the sort of conveyor type system, to industrialize it. So, they were all involved in foreign
investments.
Jackie: They were.
Alan: In industry, yeah.
Jackie: Yes, they were.
Alan: And they were telling their own people at home, you can remain free as long as you remain on an agricultural
level.
Jackie: You know what I’m going to do? Remember those first five weeks you were on? I promised, John, from
Australia, wanted to buy the tapes. And you know, there’s so many people that should hear them, because we did 20
hours together, Alan.
Alan: Yeah. Well, I’ve just put up twelve of them on CD, just today.
Jackie: Twelve of what?
Alan: Of those tapes.
Jackie: How did you do that?
Alan: They’re burned on MP3 CDs.
Jackie: I’m talking the first twenty that we did.
Alan: Well, this is the first of the twelve of the series.
Jackie: You have the tapes?
Alan: Yeah. It’s been transferred to CD. I’ve got them for sale, because I’ve got to get… I’m not selling the books.
Hardly anything is moving.
Jackie: You what?
Alan: I’m saying, I’m not selling the books because hardly anything is moving. So, I put this one up for sale, you see.
Jackie: Oh, you’re putting it up for sale.
Alan: Yeah, it’s up for sale, now.
Jackie: Oh, cool. The first twelve hours.
Alan: The first twelve on one CD, yeah.
Jackie: Oh, wow. Well, how does somebody…
Alan: And that will be followed with the next bunch.
Jackie: Do you have copies of all of them, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, I should do.
Jackie: You mean, you taped every one of our broadcasts.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Well, then, do it.
Alan: Yeah, I’m doing it, because I’ve got to get some cash to pay for the site and so on.
Jackie: So, how do people get them?
Alan: They can see it on the website. It’s got the price there for twelve in the first set. The format it comes in, which is
MP3 CD, which plays on pretty well all computers.
Jackie: Okay, good. Yeah, but, Alan, will they play on somebody’s CD player?
Alan: A lot of CD players will play it. And also, your DVD player for your television generally plays MP3 as well.
Jackie: The DVD?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: You never told me this.
Alan: Oh, it was a spontaneous thing. Because I was talking, how can we pay for this and so on. And I thought, well,
why not sell these lectures?
Jackie: Oh, my God. Those are our first twelve hours.
Alan: That’s the first twelve, yeah.
Jackie: Do you need it? I’ve got all the tapes if you need any more of them.
Alan: Yeah. Well, I might; I’ll have to go through the box.
Jackie: Well, go through the box.
Alan: I’ve got about three or four boxes.
Jackie: It would be wonderful because, you know, that was our first. You know, Mike Campbell called me. I was going
to make a trip to Saint Louis. And I guess it was a couple years later, or three or four or whatever. And he said, have
you ever listened back to those first five weeks. I said, no. He said, well, you need to listen back again. Because now,
when we know what we know, you get so much more out of it. And so, when I took my trip to Saint Louis, I took all
ten of those tapes, you know, two hours on each. And I listened to them all the way to Saint Louis. And Alan, it was
amazing. And I should probably listen to them again. But you tell me if you need any more of those tapes, and I’ll send
copies to you.
Alan: I’ll have to go through the other box, and count up the rest.
Jackie: Well, that would be wonderful, if that’s a way that you can, you know, finance the website.
Alan: Yeah, and it’s also the cheapest way to buy them, because, I mean, even twelve one-hour cassettes, or it’s
actually 120-minute cassettes, costs a fair bit of money just to buy them, you know.
Jackie: It does.
Alan: So, it’s cheaper to buy the CD.
Jackie: Well, that’s the point. …I’d much rather that you make them available on CDs, Alan.
Alan: Well, I have to, because I mean, there’s no income coming in.
Jackie: Yeah, right. I understand that. When did you do this?
Alan: Oh, about a week it took basically, and it was just today it was ready to go.
Jackie: Well, cool.
Alan: Just put it up on the site today.
Jackie: Alright. So, folks, go to .com. And what are they going to look for, Alan?
Alan: It says it on it, the original first twelve hours of talks on…
Jackie: Sweet Liberty. Oh, my God. I can remember getting testy with you so many times. Especially when we were
talking about the Constitution, remember that?
Alan: And gold and silver.
Jackie: And gold and silver. “Well, it’s better than nothing, Alan.”
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Does it make you laugh when you listen to them? Have you listened to them?
Alan: Little bits of them. Little bits.
Jackie: I remember them well. Because you ticked me off quite a bit sometimes.
Alan: It’s a course in deprogramming.
Jackie: I know. Well, that’s wonderful news. That’s more wonderful news. So, we’re almost out of time. We’ve got
probably about two more minutes. So, what would you like to say before we end this evening and this week of
broadcasting?
Alan: Well, maybe in another couple of weeks, I’ll have all the rest done on CD. And, as I say, there’s so many ways to
play it from your computer to your DVD player. And other people too can buy it, because the twelve is only going to
cost them [see .com for ordering information]. And that’s a steal. Because it’s a long time for transposing each one,
one hour for each time, you’ve got to continue the whole hour and keep changing, and then change from CD to MP3, to
get it all on one disc. So, that’s a whole bunch of transitions, but at least it’s done. The first set is done.
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April 12th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Alan Watt is with us. And Alan, many of you, maybe all of you tuned in Monday night. Or I understand
also that it was played again last night, early, earlier. Alan was on the George Noory Coast to Coast program for three
hours on Monday night. And I stayed up, well it was 2 to 5, and even when it was over I was totally wide awake. To
me, it was the most beautiful, wonderful, like I said, last Wednesday night, it seems like a miracle for him to have had
the opportunity to reach so many people with the information that only Alan Watt can share in Alan Watt’s way. And
so, therefore, it was pretty cool, Alan.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it was, as they say, we all get our five minutes of fame, you know.
Jackie: Well, actually, to me it was magnificent. You know, there was nothing, really, I don’t know if there was
anything that you said that we haven’t, you know, that our listeners haven’t heard and that we haven’t discussed. But, I
was sitting there listening and I was trying to listen from the viewpoint, if you would, of a person who this stuff wasn’t
so familiar. And it was the way that it flowed, it was the way that you presented it. It’s another classic, as I can see.
Alan: Well, the response has been awfully good. And I think there’s still 19,000 on the website today, just looking into
it, yeah.
Jackie: Oh, my. That is just. That’s fabulous. Well, I’ve heard from some people also, you know, you had mentioned
Sweet Liberty. And, of course, there’s a link at your website, and I had a few emails from some of the listeners. And a
friend called, because she was listening to George Noory, and heard you mention my name. And we haven’t talked for
about five years. And it was pretty cool. But, George Noory, well, of course we know that Coast to Coast is syndicated
on, I guess almost 500 AM stations. And we know that the media is controlled. And we know that everybody that is on
Coast to Coast is not a credible person. But, I heard him, and I thought he asked you some really excellent questions.
And these were questions that he asked in response to something you said, not like, oh, there’s a question laid out, you
know to ask. And I think that at least what I heard, it was getting through to him, because I heard him sigh, a couple of
really long, deep sighs, Alan. Did you hear that?
Alan: Yeah. I think what’s happening now, I think I said it on the show too, that everyone has this feeling of
expectation that something is coming down. And everyone in the business of media or entertainment, it’s all mixed
together now. It’s so interwoven, media and entertainment. Even your local six o’clock news is half Hollywood and
movies and so on. So, entertainment, fiction and non-fiction have become so tightly interwoven that it’s difficult for the
average person, and even those involved in the media to actually tell the difference at times. They’re living in half
fantasy, and so they ignore the nasty realities that they see in the corner of their vision coming their way. And I think
some of them are starting to see that they can’t keep going on in this direction and deny, deny, deny, and just simply go
off into the fantasy side of things. Because what’s happening now is so real, so vitally important for everyone and
everyone to come that people have to be aware of what’s going on to change direction. Because there’s only one
direction we’re heading in, and it’s a nasty ending for most people.
Jackie: Alan, I had a couple or three emails that was saying, you know, if this is all true, what are we supposed to do? Is
there anything we can do about it? And I did send back some of my own comments, but would you please respond to
that, because we may even have new listeners tonight, from you know, the George Noory broadcast. Would you
respond to that question that maybe lots and lots of people have?
Alan: They have to do, and it’s very difficult at this stage of the game, but people have to do a crash course in reality
check here, because if they don’t, and I don’t mean going off and chasing space aliens or reptilian people, and all this
stuff that’s put out to distract you into the fantasy again, until nothing is real. I mean a crash course on what’s been
happening in the world, for at least the last hundred years. That’s all they have to really go on. They can go much
further back if they want to. And see all of the treaties that have been carefully step-by-step signed into by every
country on the planet, except those who are under attack now in the Middle East – that’s the reason they’re being
attacked – to bring the world into this unification process. Who was behind it, initially, the NGOs that are funded to
push it, and a lot of these NGO groups are ex-politicians and bureaucrats that are actually employed by big foundations,
like the Rockefeller foundation. These are the guys who are really pushing this agenda forward. And last year, for
instance, when they signed the unification of the Americas deal, a year ago in March, at Waco, Texas, that’s a good
example of how this was done, because, that week, twice that week before the signing, the CFR came out as an official
organization for the first time, to declare a broadcast to the nation. Now, before we’ve had the occasional one member
of the CFR as an advisor to people. But here they are as a panel with the CFR board behind them, saying that we have
to unite the Americas to compete with Europe and China. And they were drafting a bill for the politicians to sign. So,
they were basically admitting they were behind the setting up of the unification of the Americas, which is true, because
if you go into the history of the CFR, which is just the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, it
was set up by the Cecil Rhodes and Lord Rothschild foundations in the late 1800s, to bring world unification with three
world trading blocs. So, here we are being guided by non-governmental organizations that are funded by multimillionaires.
And we don’t vote these guys in. And we have no say in what they do. And it’s time we did.
Jackie: Well the pathetic thing is that these non-governmental organizations, every single one of them, and there are
thousands, are considered by these want-to-be gods, that this is the voice of the people. That’s their people’s
parliament, Alan.
Alan: It’s the Soviet. Soviet meant government by councils. And this is the New World Soviet that Mikhail Gorbachev
talked about in his last speech when he was still the prime minister or president of the Soviet Union. He made the
speech, which is available. And he says Communism isn’t dying, it’s going on to the next stage.
Jackie: There you go.
Alan: And sure enough it was. It ties right in with Norman Dodd’s report and the Reece Commission to do with the big
foundations who said that their purpose was to merge comfortably America and the West with the Soviet Union.
Jackie: And I do not recall the name of the book, and you might, that was written by Congressman Reece, or he did
maybe the forward. I think he wrote the book, but maybe, it doesn’t matter. It was a book that was written based on all
the findings of the Reece Committee, back in, what, fifty-whatever. And we have that book listed.
Alan: It’s called Foundations: Their Power and Influence.
Jackie: Foundations: Their Power and Influence. Thank you. That book, folks, if you’re interested, oh my God, Alan, I
knew about this. You know, Congressman Reece’s, but the book wasn’t available at the time. And then it was
reprinted. Chuck had a copy of it. And he was on his way to the airport, that’s when he was visiting me in Illinois, and
he pulled it out of his briefcase. He said he was going to read it on the plane. I was so excited to have that. I said, oh,
please, you can’t. The information in that book just tells it all without any fancy words. …It’s a research book, isn’t it
Alan?
Alan: And it’s all documented. I mean, what we’re talking about here is not some harebrained conspiracy theory. This
is all factual publications put out by the big boys themselves. And you can find, go into the diaries of Cecil Rhodes,
when he set up his foundation as a front man for the Rothschilds and for the British elite to bring about World
Government. And the fastest way they found to unite the whole of Europe, and all the little, the many little countries
that eventually became the Soviet Union, was to create Communism and force one system of centralized government
over them all, which standardized their culture, their bureaucracies, their laws, everything. And that’s why they created
the Soviet system. And now we’re in a blend, we’re in the Third Way, which is the blending of Fascism and
Communism, into the Third Way they call it. So, that’s where we are now.
Jackie: Yes. I have a question for you, and you brought it up tonight, and you mentioned this Monday night. Well, first
the conversation I believe was talking about the depopulation plans, that 90%, 80 to 90% of the population is supposed
to be done away with, because they don’t need any more than that. And then you mentioned, because I think maybe
somebody had asked what do you see in the future. And I was glad to hear you say, I know what they intend, because
they haven’t been successful yet, it doesn’t mean they’re going to, but we certainly know they’re on the track. You
mentioned, you know, in the future, these trade blocs, the three, like the Trilateral Commission. But then, my question
is, if there are so few people, and the only people left are really people that are left to serve the want-to-be gods, what
are they going to do with these trade blocs?
Alan: Everything is a step by step. It’s not the end. It’s a step towards another part of an agenda.
Jackie: Okay, what’s the next part?
Alan: Well, the next part, they won’t need people in the traditional sense. They’re going to create, they have the
capabilities now…
Jackie: I know, but Alan, when we talk trade blocs, we’re talking commercialism here.
Alan: That’s for a short time.
Jackie: Okay. But I understood you, at least it seems the inference was that that would be after the majority of the
population had already been done away with.
Alan: These blocs will be up and running about 2010, as three separate, well, individual trading blocs under world
government. That’s their agenda. But it’s only partway towards the next part, of course.
Jackie: That’s right out of George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, isn’t it?
Alan: This is the real Never-Ending Story. And that’s what they mean when they say that man is the clay. He’s
infinitely malleable. He’s the source material, he’s the raw material, and they can keep shaping us and shaping us to the
next step, to the next step.
Jackie: Malleable and moldable. That’s what the words were used in Brzezinski’s book.
Alan: And the thing is too, after they signed the Waco deal last March, and showed it on the television up here about the
unification and Fortress America, etc. The integration of all security forces has been done. And eventually too, the
sharing of tariffs, meaning taxation. After that, another reporter came on from the CFR to give the CFR’s spin, which is
supposed to be our eventual opinion. And he says, well, we’ve got to unite, he says, to compete with the European
Union. Do you see how they do it? First they create one bloc, you see, and then they point to them and say, oh gee, we
can’t compete with them, we’ve got to do the same thing to compete with them. And once we eventually amalgamate,
then they’ll say, well, gee, we’ve got to compete with China. And then you have a race to the bottom for wages. This is
how it’s all structured. This is deliberate planning.
Jackie: I know. I want to go back to the question. Besides a person, you know, doing, getting on the fast track, getting
up to speed. I think that the questions that were asked were like, what can I do as an individual? Is there any way we
can stop this, etc, etc? In other words, besides knowing about it, Alan.
Alan: See, they’re following the old Revelations plan, which is a plan which has been used many times over. Once
again, Revelations is infinitely malleable. And so, they aren’t going to be happy until every individual gives allegiance
to this system. And we don’t realize we’re doing it all the time, when we’re forced to go along with another ridiculous
rule or law or fee, or whatever it is. And we know that the registration of everybody is coming along here. They want
all the heads to be numbered.
Jackie: I’d say we are already. Wouldn’t you?
Alan: We are, but they also want us to officially have our little biometric card, our little ID card. And that’s a stepping
stone towards a chip implanted. And that’s been documented at the Loyola University, World Science Meeting,
sponsored by the US Department of Commerce. So, it’s a step-by-step process. So, we are acquiescing to every step.
Jackie: Well, Alan. It does come down to…
Alan: The individual.
Jackie: But try to get in your car and drive without a license plate.
Alan: Well, the thing is, you have two options. You either go the whole way here to oblivion or start saying No now, as
an individual.
Jackie: No, but wait a minute. You drive a vehicle, you have no license plate on it?
Alan: I’m not talking about licensing. I’m talking about literally taking an ID card that I can’t buy or sell with without,
etc. In other words, they can starve me to death if I won’t comply? What kind of choice is that? When people give you
no choice but theirs, you’re really in trouble. And we better understand that, quick.
Jackie: Well, I’m going to repeat something you said a long time ago. In fact, it was when I was getting frustrated when
we were in that first period of, you know, our conversations together on air. We were talking about the Federal Reserve
system, the money system, and in fact, I was mentioning Tupper Saussy’s book, and I thought it was really cool,
because he was, you know, using the Constitution that no state could accept anything other than gold and silver coins in
legal tender for a debt. And so there were actually people in towns that were presenting IOUs and saying as soon as
there’s legal tender. And I thought that was so great, and you said, no. And I said, well, why? And you said, well,
because they control the gold too. And I know that is so. And I want to side-track here for a second, because there are
so many people that are pushing to go back to a gold standard.
Alan: I know, I know. See, again, with all of this, you see, this starts with what they call in modern history as the
beginning of civilization. Civilization is their system.
Jackie: Well, anyway, when you said no to that, I said, well, it’s better than nothing, isn’t it Alan. And you said, no.
And I said, well, why? And you said, because you cannot get out of their system by using their system. Gold is their
system. And then I said, frustratedly, well, then what’s your solution. Because if this isn’t better than anything,
nothing, then you said, if enough people, when enough people understand this, it is going to, it is going to just dissolve
of itself.
Alan: It won’t be easy, because I’m telling you, people are going to suffer here. People always suffer to get a breathing
space in this system. And that’s what I mean, a breathing space. Which generally lasts about a generation, if you’re
lucky, because these guys at the top have been at this intergenerationally for thousands of years. And it’s literally
coming down to a personal choice and everyone’s decision. We know, and they know at the top, that we can’t go on
like this consuming the way we’re consuming. They know this. These are economists at the top. They see the world as
their planet, and all the resources as being theirs for their offspring in the future. They think about the future. They’ve
trained us not to. They’ve trained us to think you’re being well managed. Just let it happen by your betters at the top,
these unseen hands at the top, you see. And sure enough, the population, they think in the now and live in the now, and
I won’t think about tomorrow, and I’ll just be happy now, and they live day to day like that. But these guys at the top
have looked at the resources of the planet, they look at our present consumption, and they don’t intend to allow us to
keep consuming at this rate.
Jackie: They knew it couldn’t last. When they designed the plan, they knew it couldn’t last.
Alan: Exactly. Because they’ve done this before. I mean, the Sahara at one time was a flourishing subtropical climate.
It was flourishing. They’ve found all these skeletons of elephants and all the usual jungle animals, lions and so on,
under the Sahara. That was a flourishing place with trees and so on. That was made destitute in an age before this, by
the same guys who run this system, the predecessors of the same guys who run this system.
Jackie: How did they make it desolate like that?
Alan: They raped it. They raped it and raped it and raped it, and used it up, burned it up.
Jackie: Took all the natural resources and the trees and the plants.
Alan: The Egyptians had records of ancient civilizations that had risen to high heights and pinnacles and then simply
collapsed. And it’s well understood in academic circles that when you live in what is called an advanced culture,
meaning you’re totally interdependent, everyone is interdependent to live for subsidence, etc, in that system, then it’s
the easiest system to collapse completely. How many people today could actually live on their own in the wild?
Jackie: In the wild, I don’t know.
Alan: Most of them would give up without a thought, you know.
Jackie: They’re burning all the forests down anyway, Alan.
Alan: But what I’m saying is, that we are in a system that’s been carefully crafted with this present feeding frenzy of
cheap junk from China, to keep us happy, as they go into the next step. And it’s all done on debt. Everyone is running
credit cards. And, when it’s time, when everything is completed, they’ll just pull it, and then all these massive police
forces, which are really just world armies, will come and take care of it. They’ll be taken care of, those police guys and
the military. They always do that. The Romans did it too, you know.
Jackie: What do you mean, take care of them?
Alan: Of the people who will be rioting. See, the mobs always riot. They’re always unorganized when chaos occurs.
Most of them never see it coming. And pandemonium breaks loose. That’s what they’ve been carefully building up
inside every country in the West for the last 20-odd years, under amalgamated multi-jurisdictional taskforces. It’s a
massive world army to take care of the chaos that they expect to come, when most of their plan has been completed.
They don’t intend to keep us happy and consuming like this, you know.
Jackie: Do you think by any stretch of the imagination that people who are consuming and consuming and consuming
are happy, Alan?
Alan: It’s not a matter of happiness.
Jackie: That’s what I’m saying.
Alan: But what I’m saying is that’s what they’ve been trained to do. That’s what they think is happiness. Look at every
ad on TV. You’ve got a smiling face next to a toothbrush to a broom to a new car. In other words, everything that you
see is supposed to make you happy, and people have been sold on that, that idea.
Jackie: And everybody is floundering and wondering what’s wrong with their lives.
Alan: Well, that’s why you’ve got Dr. Phil to guarantee…
Jackie: Well, you know what it comes down to, to me. And we are talking about this right now, kind of the way I
answered one of the questions that was sent to me. I said, it’s really up to each and every one of us as an individual
what we’re going to do, and the only way, I said, I haven’t a clue to say what you should do or what anybody else
should do, because, if we ask and we listen, we’ll be guided from within, and it always starts, like you said, it comes
down to choice, in every single day, and every moment of every single day, we have choices to make, within us. Every
single one of us know the difference, right from wrong. And maybe it is simply to begin to do that, and to take a look at
ourselves and to begin to treat one another the way we want. I’m not saying do unto others the way they do unto you,
but, do unto others as we would have them do to us. And the possibility there, at least for the individual, that the
discernment comes. Maybe that inner guidance comes. And, whatever it is they’re doing is what they’re supposed to be
doing.
Alan: See, they’ve all been trained, this is the problem, everyone has been trained, and not just this generation either.
It’s been going on for an awful long time. Every generation has been trained that you don’t ask questions as to why.
They always say don’t ask the question. This is what religion used to do.
Jackie: You’re not even supposed to question religious questions.
Alan: But, what I’m saying is, that used to be the standard statement given by churches to the commoner, when you
asked about the meaning of life, they’d say, look, don’t ask about first and last causes. It’s not your problem. Leave that
to us. Just you do what you’re told. And that’s basically how the public are trained. They’re shoved into this mass
conditioning system to come out uniformly, and it’s called the educational system. So, they all come out with the same
opinions, and they think that they’ve been taught things that are true. And they all give the same pat answers, but
they’ve been conditioned all to think in a certain process, which is non-think, really. It’s a dumbing down process
which eliminates the natural person within. And so, they come out uniform, and then the whole purpose they’re told is
to get them into a job. And then the purpose from then on is to simply support yourself through life in this system.
And, of course, once they’re in the rush of living and caught up in it, they don’t have time to ponder very much at all,
except, they do know, really, deep down, that they’re not very happy.
Jackie: I know, but maybe that’s why we’re having this conversation. Because, you know, you’ve said this yourself,
that it isn’t for everybody. Because the masses have always been the masses.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: And it seems that it’s been that way down throughout the ages.
Alan: There’s always been a large percentage who seem quite content being ruled over by unseen people. They don’t
even know their names, in fact, and don’t care to.
Jackie: Because, basically, they’re brain dead.
Alan: They’re happy slaves in a sense. Even though the system they live in gives them neurosis and worry etc, even
though, rather than look for any other way, rather than try the unknown, they’ll always take the known.
Jackie: Well, because they’re accustomed to the chaos.
Alan: Even though the known is a disaster…
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Hi, we’re back. I was trying to watch the clock there to give us a warning, and wasn’t able to do it before the
break. So, we’re talking about, okay, the masses, and the way it appears to me, as you said, it’s been this way down
throughout the ages, and yet there’s always been a few who have escaped it somehow, at least. Well, like I didn’t
escape it. I just began to wake up one day. Like hit over the head. Because, I was there too. I was, I believed
everything that we were taught in history was true. I mean, I didn’t believe everything in the Bible was true, I knew
that. But, what I’m saying is, there are people who eventually, if they haven’t escaped it right from the get-go, they
wake up, Alan. Okay, you remember the time we were talking, and it isn’t like I’m trying to be Pollyanna here, but we
have had these conversations, and I think it’s worth repeating, because, it can leave people so hopeless when you look at
this, and especially when it’s new, this is all new. You really do feel like you’ve been socked in the gut. But I
remember we were talking one time, and you were talking about this, the fact that the ones we know of, the want-to-be
gods, they’re actually controlled by outside whatever.
Alan: Influences.
Jackie: They’re atheists.
Alan: They’re not really atheists.
Jackie: But you said the ones that are really involved are very aware of the power within us, and that their greatest fear
is that enough people will wake up and realize who we really are, more than just a human being here, but spiritual
beings. And I asked you, how many do you think that would take. And you said, I don’t think a lot, because there’s not
a lot of them.
Alan: It’s a true story. When someone is standing in a massive crowd can yell that the king has no clothes, and the spell
is broken. And that’s what it takes. It takes a few people who have enough gumption to say, enough is enough, of all
this polite talking around diseases. Because, it reminds me of a medical hospital, and all the interns go around with the
top surgeon, or whoever, and they stand at the bottom of a bed and around a patient’s bed. Now, if you have a big
tumor right in the middle of the patient, and you talk about all the secondary symptoms, but you’re not allowed to look
and talk about that tumor that you can see there, then you’re never going to get to the problem. And that’s what we hear
in the media. We hear these vague rumors of things, vague statements. Everything is so vague to do with big changes
and big treaties being signed and all this kind of stuff. And we’re all so polite, we don’t want to say, wait a minute here,
could you explain that to me. It’s time we stopped this stuff, and we demand that everything be explained fully.
Because either government is your master or it’s your servant. There’s no in between here.
Jackie: Well, I didn’t know that government was our servant ever anyway.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Governments were never made to be servants.
Alan: But that’s what people are trained to really believe. You vote them in and somehow they’re responsible to you,
and that’s the oldest con game in the book. Even Plato talked about that. He said, democracy always leads to a
communistic system, which leads to dictatorship. And this was tried so many times, over and over in ancient times, and
the reason they keep doing it today is because they know where they’re going and they want to go through these stages,
through chaos, etc, until ultimately you have a new king of the world. And that’s really what their goal is. There will
be one day they hope to put their own man in there as first king of the entire planet.
Because all the religions, and this is the problem. People are trapped in their cultural religions that they’re born into,
and because of that they follow the guys at the top. The guys at the top of all the religions are part of the same religion,
an inner, esoteric religion. And I don’t care what you belong to. If you’re following a mainstream religion, and even
the New Age religions, the ones at the top are all part of a top esoteric elite. You always lead the people through
cultural religions.
Jackie: Didn’t you say that the base of that word is ligio?
Alan: To tie. You bind them.
Jackie: To bind, and re-ligion, means to rebind.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Religions are manmade.
Alan: They’re manmade.
Jackie: But, you didn’t acknowledge that statement that we were talking about that I was talking about. Remember
when you said that, Alan?
Alan: What was that?
Jackie: Well, you said that the real controllers know that there is a power within us, and they don’t want us to know it,
that’s why we’ve got religions.
Alan: That’s also why we have a Sovietized system where the average individual, whether he knows it or not, it’s a
subconscious thing, he’s been trained that you’re just a – through science by the way, science is the technique that the
Soviets used all along. And again, it’s fake science. They train us to believe it’s all true. But they tell you that you’re
just a blob of protoplasm that happens to exist, and it’s all by chance. And so, you’re nothing special about you. And
every function that you have and every drive that you have is programmed into you by your DNA and your genes, until
you say well geez, I’m just a walking cesspool of chemicals here. And that’s what you think of yourself. It’s time you
reclaimed your own personal sovereignty as an individual, unique being, you see. And once you come to that
understanding, my God, you find, I have a voice and it matters. It matters what you think. And stop being a little blob
of protoplasmic jelly. There’s more to an individual than that. And they’re well aware that a thought that really is
thought out in a deep sense, is transmitted across the planet, as soon as it is put out there, as soon as it comes into being.
And the ancients called that thought forms, of course. The Greeks knew all about this. They were trained by the
Egyptians. And thought forms.
Jackie: And they use it. Remember you told us about that triangle they had set up.
Alan: Yeah, the higher black lodges they call them.
Jackie: And they’re sending out particular frequencies or messages, or.
Alan: They force their will upon those within the triangle. In other words, the three points, say, in a state, north, south,
and west, and they force their will upon those within. That’s one of their higher rituals.
Jackie: But it’s like getting us to speak their language, Alan.
Alan: It’s almost like hypnotic tapes, played in your sleep, you might say.
Jackie: But it’s like, you know, they give us the language, and they’ve got all these symbolic meanings, these esoteric
meanings of words in the language, and yet, we speak it, it is in a sense, we are unknowingly speaking their plan.
Alan: Your whole language, the whole English language is encoded to bring this about. I’ll give you one simple little
quip example here. Everyone has been trained by Hollywood. Do you remember when that Moore spoke out about
9/11 on an Oscar night, I think it was or some big night?
Jackie: Oh, Michael Moore.
Alan: Remember that night he first spoke about that in the States. And in the same award show, I think was the actress,
her name is Sarandon.
Jackie: Susan Sarandon.
Alan: And she said, we, the culture creators. She said, we the culture creators must speak out about this. Now that’s a
direct translation that was always used in the Soviet Union, because, in the Soviet Union, they knew that we emulate
what we see. We think we’re being entertained here. We’re not. We’re being programmed. So Hollywood’s function
is to create the next step of the next part of the culture. And so, in other words, there are so many techniques now. The
movie industry used to be called quite commonly, the cinema. And the cinema, if you speak it in a phonetic sense,
backwards, is simply Amen Is. Amen, the god, Amen, you see.
Jackie: Amen is.
Alan: And that’s the single eye of Ra, or Lucifer. And that’s the projection that comes out of the back of the hall.
Jackie: Okay, let me ask you a question, because this came into my mind Monday night. Remember when you were
talking about 911, and you said that 911, 9/11 is a very important date to them esoterically, symbolically. Well, it
occurred to me when you said that, that we all call it 911. They gave it to us. I mean, we have 911 as our emergency
number. Now we have 9/11, the holocaust at the World Trade Center.
Alan: It’s also Chapter 9, verse 11 of Revelations where the Beast from the Bottomless Pit, the Beast of War is
unleashed. What a coincidence.
Jackie: Okay. So, here’s the thought I had. What if we quit using 9/11, and it might only be ten of us, but, in other
words we keep saying 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, giving power to that very important date to them.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: What if we just call it something else. Call it the Holocaust at the World Trade Center.
Alan: Well, no, no. You’ve got to be even careful there. Because a holocaust is a deliberate sacrifice for something to
be given in return.
Jackie: The World Trade Center, wasn’t it a deliberate sacrifice?
Alan: If you understand what you’re saying, it is. But for most people, they don’t realize that it’s the halo, the sun. It’s
cast into the sun. It’s a burnt offering. That’s what it means.
Jackie: Okay. So we just say the World Trade Center Tragedy. My point is, it’s sort of like calling our children kids.
Alan: I know, goats.
Jackie: I know, but beyond just a baby goat, the Goat of Mendes is the universal symbol of Satan. So, when we call our
children kids.
Alan: That’s right. And of course that’s what the Communists also said. Beria said it back in the 1930s, that by
neurolinguistics, which is the alteration of the meanings of words, and the substitution of words, we shall demean the
human being down to a lower level.
Jackie: Thank you. So, we call our children the spawn of Satan when we refer to them as kids.
Alan: Well, apart from that, what you’re doing is putting them into a non-human category.
Jackie: Yeah, okay. So, we stop doing that, enough people, at least, I quit doing it, and I know other people that when
they find out about it. It enraged me Alan. Okay. So, what I’m saying is, just on this one particular thing, let’s quit
calling it 911. Let’s quit playing their game.
Alan: We should, and again, the whole darned English language is so multi-encoded.
Jackie: I know, but at least it’s not 911.
Alan: And the thing is, until people can think above the language that they’ve been trained into. You see, there’s more
to language than just… And they know it too. We see symbology everywhere. And this symbology, your
subconscious, actually, it’s really the sea of the unconscious which recognizes it. And you can be programmed just as
easily through symbology, which they do all the time. We’re getting flashed with symbols on TV and ads in magazines,
and logos. So, but there’s a much higher form of natural symbology too, within nature. And that is where the true
meditation comes in. That’s when your mind is flowing freely, and it gets above your conditioning. Instead of
meditating yourself into a stupor, you’re supposed to meditate yourself into a wakefulness. That’s the real form of it.
And that means that all your faculties are working, because you have more senses, you see, to use, which most folk
don’t use at all.
Jackie: Well, one thing. We have to have quiet time to do that, and for people who live in cities, it has to be a very
intentional thing. And I do know that, because I was in Saint Louis, and well, we were in the ’burbs, but you still had
traffic and children and stuff like that. So, you find a quiet place, like, for example, where you live, where I live. It’s
quiet. And you can hear it. You can hear the birds. You can hear the little peepers at night. You can hear the leaves
rustle on the trees.
Alan: It’s so quiet at night I can listen to my Ford truck rusting.
Jackie: There you go. Well, that’s what, see. So, some of us are in that place where it’s easy. But for people who are in
densely-populated areas, it isn’t impossible. But, you don’t put headsets on when you go jogging. I mean, give yourself
some time, like you said, allow those thoughts. If you’re in your car, turn the radio off. Use it for some quiet time.
And it’s amazing the thoughts that will start rolling through your mind, Alan. Even Revelation type things.
Alan: You see, children do it naturally. They go into a natural meditative state. If you’ve ever watched them around the
age of three, four, five, sometimes their jaw just hangs open and they’re staring at something, and they’re far, far away,
but they’re in a natural meditative state. That is trained out of us through the school system, where we’re taught, what
are you doing daydreaming? Get back to your, you know, pay attention. They’re destroying a natural meditative state
that people used to have right through their entire lives.
Jackie: And it goes even for us, I mean, who are in the country, have the quiet, put on a television, put on a radio, you
have shattered the silence.
Alan: Shattered it, and also, the public have been trained to get up in the morning to the radio.
Jackie: I know it.
Alan: And then, all day at work, sometimes in factories they blare music, in shopping malls.
Jackie: Oh, my God, everywhere, the elevator. It doesn’t matter where you are.
Alan: And then you’re getting, I don’t know if people realize it, they got all these subliminal messages. There are
companies that sell this. This is standard. This is not conspiracy here. All those little, happy little dreary songs you
hear in the elevator or in stores have programming in there, to don’t steal, or buy, buy, buy, like the movie They Live,
which everybody should get and watch. And then they get back at night from work. They’re tired. They put their feet
up, they watch the TV. In other words, professional people whose job it is to give you downloading are putting
thoughts into your head all day long.
Jackie: You know what just came into my mind when you were talking about coming home from work tired, put your
feet up and turn the television on? In my mind, I saw a family together without a television on. And that can be.
Families can be together without televisions, without radios. They can talk with one another. They can communicate,
they can listen. And you know, maybe that’s, in my mind, what I’m talking about is the way we’d be every single day,
as much as we can possibly be, as close as we can to walk that walk. And I don’t care how tired a parent is. If the
children have been without the parents all day, they need each other.
Alan: And the problem is again, the cycle has been…
Jackie: I’m talking about people who are listening to this broadcast right now. I’m talking for.
Alan: The families, you mean.
Jackie: I’m talking for, to, yes.
Alan: And what I’m saying, though, see, this would be fine if you could nip something in the bud before it starts. And
all you need is one generation to take it for granted that the state is bringing up your children. And they do
subconsciously. They never mention it vocally, but the state has taken over the conditioning, long ago, of their children,
until they’re at a state now of Socialism. And they don’t realize this either. They expect the government should support
their children and take care of them in Nursery schools and daycare.
Jackie: And you know, it’s amazing. If we give children a chance, what they really, really, really respond to. And I
know, because I’ve experienced it, when the grandchildren come in the summertime, and they come out of the city, they
go to bed at night listening to their radios. They each have their own individual little players with little headsets. When
they come here Alan, we’ll put the TV on to watch a movie. But we don’t wake up in the morning and turn a television
on. I talk to them about the dangers of going to sleep with the radio on. I didn’t get hassles from them. When I told the
children, and Ashley was twelve at the time, so, Amber would have been seven or nine, whatever, Brandon, they were
twelve and under. And I thought that they might think, oh, gee, she’s being so silly. But I just simply told them that it
occurred to me that when we call our children kids that we’re calling them baby goats. And I said, you are not baby
goats. You are children. You are young people. I’m not calling you kids anymore. And I thought they might kind of
laugh at me. But they didn’t. And when I said, if I, because it sounds kind of formal to me, you know, children. It was
hard for me at first, Alan. And I didn’t slip many times, but I said, if I slip, just remind me, we’re not baby goats. And
Alan, I slipped a few times. Every time I did, in unison, that’s what they said. We’re not baby goats, mama. And we
went outside. We did the garden. One day they were going out, they were shelling peas or something. Amber came in
to gather up their little headset radios. And I said, what are you doing babe. She said, we’re going to. I said, oh, no. I
said, just leave the radios in here, and just listen to the birds out there. She said, okay, and I heard her tell Ash, mama
says forget the radios and listen to the birds. In other words, Alan, they respond. They do respond. But they need an
adult, who cares enough to step in there and make the change for them. And I know when they go back home they go
back into it. But, when they get their summers here, it’s a different experience. All I’m saying is, it isn’t impossible.
Alan: It’s not impossible, and you’ve got to realize something that all dictators down through the thousands of years
have known, because, this is a science. Everything is based on science and knowledge. Children want to be guided.
They really do. Now, we’ve been trained since the 60s especially, and the 50s and 60s and 70s, that children are
rebellious and they don’t want guidance. And that’s not true.
Jackie: Thanks to Dr. Spock.
Alan: Because, if you go back even to the Young Communist Party, where they wanted to divide the young from the
old, because the old are contaminated with their old thoughts, you see. And then they brought the children up by the
state. The same techniques are applied here in a more clever, you know, a more subdued fashion, but very effective.
And all the great dictators know that when they want to take over a country or a world, they always go for the young.
And that’s why you had the Communist Youth, the Hitler Youth, and every other youth movement. It’s run by the guys
at the top. And even the New Age movement to an extent that bypassed the parents and grabbed the children. And this
is all intentional. It’s the same techniques over and over again, because they never fail. Children actually want
guidance. And they want guidance from someone that will spend time with them.
Jackie: Exactly.
Alan: You see, as an actual real living person who will listen to what they say.
Jackie: And that’s why I had this picture in my mind, you know, parents coming home, put their feet up on the stool,
and say, well, how did your day go children. What did you do today? And talk. And to have dinner together. And talk
around the table, and laugh, and have fun together. And you know what else I found out about them? They love to hear
stories about us when we were young. And when I get going, they’ll say, tell us another one, mama. Tell us another
one. You know, sometimes your thoughts just pop out and you tell them something and they get a big kick out of it.
And they’ll just sit, and they eat it up.
Alan: What we need is continuity.
Jackie: Maybe if somebody says, what can I do? Maybe that, right there, is the important thing in the whole world is the
way we’d be with one another. The way we’d be with our friends, our spouses, our loved ones, our anybody, but
especially family. Keep it together.
Alan: It’s continuity, continuity of generations.
Jackie: And have a family be a haven for each and every individual in that family. They all have their little life they go
about, and the one safe place there, at least for the children growing up is there. Because mom and dad are there, or
maybe mom or maybe dad. If it’s only one parent then you’ve got to do it for both.
Alan: Remember what Maurice Strong said at the Earth Summit, and that Earth Summit was made up by one of the
Rockefellers actually and Maurice Strong just presented it. And that affects the whole world, once again, this big NGO
organization, unelected, making our world plans for us. And Maurice Strong said that the last vestige of the family must
be destroyed. And that’s the old Communist regime again, because continuity between generations was their big
enemy, because a small family is representative of a tribe. And they destroyed the tribe long ago. When there’s no
family that will stand up together, then government is your direct master that will dictate to the individual.
Jackie: Yeah. The Big Brother who loves you.
Alan: That’s right. And you have nobody to turn around to help you. And that’s what they’ve always known.
Jackie: We have one minute left to go here tonight.
Alan: Well, people have to get themselves into gear. And they have to realize that it’s coming on fast. And they’ve got
to start to be honest with themselves, and once that happens, you’d be amazed what happens within those around you,
and even at great distances too.
Jackie: At great distances. You know what. I’d like to talk more about that maybe next Wednesday night when you
were talking about a thought. We talked about this once before. And it is so exciting. And I would like to revisit that
maybe next Wednesday night, okay?
Alan: Sure enough.
Jackie: Thank you. And folks, remember that Alan’s website is .com. If you haven’t seen the video, what was it called?
Reality Check. Watch it folks. And there’s lots of Alan’s broadcasts on there too.
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April 19th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is
Wednesday. It is the 19th of April in the year 2006. And it’s getting warm. The grass is getting green, the daffodils are
out, and the little birds are singing, and it’s just been delightful. And I hope it’s just as delightful where you are. And
I’m glad you’re with us tonight, ladies and gentlemen. We have Alan Watt with us tonight, of course. And Alan has
just been invited on so many radio broadcasts, folks. I hope you can hear me over grandfather [clock]. He looks like
he’s getting a little slow, doesn’t he, Alan?
Alan Watt: It could be, it could be the weather.
Jackie: No. Yeah, it could be or it could be a little screw in there that needs to be turned. Let me share our spiritual
message here. This is very short, very sweet. Listen to this, folks. Listen to this. “Love waits on welcome, not on time.
Love waits on welcome, not on time.” So, Alan, my goodness, we talked just earlier this evening, and you’ve got about,
at least three I think that you mentioned, and you’re going to have to leave early tonight. Well, at five till.
Alan: Maybe five or ten till. Maybe ten.
Jackie: Not ten.
Alan: I’ve got scribbles all over the place here.
Jackie: No, not ten, Alan. Because I don’t have anything at hand prepared, so you can leave at five till, okay.
Alan: Well, yeah, I’ve got these little scribbles and things. I think people think that guys like me are sort of either
retired or living on cash, and I do this as a hobby. But they should know, it’s not like that at all. I mean, I cook for
myself. I fix my truck, which I’m doing right now. And all the stuff that gets mailed out I do too. So, it’s not a hobby.
And it’s not my income, either. But I think a lot of people really do think that when you switch on a TV station, for
instance, or a radio station, just because it’s there they think that you’re professional and that’s what you do.
Jackie: And that you get paid for it.
Alan: And that you get paid for it. The money just magically rolls in.
Jackie: Yes, I understand that, with the Sweet Liberty website, I’m sure that I wouldn’t be exaggerating if I said that,
each of us, Darren and I, have hundreds of hours in it, Alan, over these years. Even preparing an article to put it in.
Alan: And just even taking one tape, say, and then putting it on a CD, and then formatting it for the website for
downloading, that can take hours and hours, just for one. For one hour. So, there’s no team. There’s no staff here
doing it all.
Jackie: Well, let’s put it this way. Let’s ask anybody who’s listening, who appreciates the information that has been
imparted by you, if that’s the right word, via this broadcast. And of course, you’ve been on others, but speaking
particularly to our listeners. If you appreciate the information, maybe, Alan, I’m glad you brought this up tonight, and
folks, this wasn’t planned. Alan and I never know what we’re going to talk about. But it is true that, and Alan, I can
relate to that. When Chuck was here, I always felt that I had a helpmate, so if I let the ball go on something, he’d pick it
up. Well, like you said, you do everything. You know, you cook for yourself, and then, of course you have to do the
dishes, and you do your own repairs, plus you do engine repair and building and all sorts of odd jobs to allow you to be
able to do what you’re doing. And folks, I hope you hear this. I want to mention this, and I’m not saying this to be
derogatory, because I think sometimes people say things without really thinking. Like you said, Alan, they just think
automatically that, I guess, I don’t know.
Alan: We have been trained that way. We’ve been trained you flick on a switch and there’s the TV or the radio station.
And we knew that too, when we were on the shortwave broadcasting. And sure enough, we asked to get help, and some
people did. Most didn’t. But most of them then would phone and ask if the show was off the air, and say, well, what
happened to you? We were always going to help; but they didn’t do it. And that’s how it happens. One day you’re not
there, and what you’re left with then is the established opposition. And you know, the big boys, because they put their
opposition out there, the superstars for you to follow round in circles. And then, you get no different, no unique
information whatsoever. You’re back in the loop.
Jackie: I’ve had a lot of listeners call, and say, I wish you were back on the air, there’s nothing to listen to anymore.
Alan: It’s a routine now. The shortwave is just a routine.
Jackie: Well, the thing is that the Sweet Liberty listeners, long-time listeners, learned a lot, and when they tune into the
other broadcasts, they realize what it is. They don’t realize, people, most people don’t realize, it is entertainment. It is
entertainment, and they’re pretty well produced, and the information.
Alan: And there’s staff and there’s teams.
Jackie: But there was one gentleman that wrote to me. And he said that he felt that people who do what we’re doing
and don’t ask anything for it, and he wasn’t referring to me, or anything, but just that he thought it was great that he
could go to the website and download archives and things like that, and that he thought that the people were really for
real, who did things without for money. And I said, well, hmm, let’s look at it this way, because I know I found this out,
Alan. And I told you this, and this is God’s honest truth. I went through my entire life savings. And I don’t regret it. I
don’t begrudge it. Because at the time, what we were doing was very important to me, and I felt important to the
country, but the point is, literally, when Chuck and I were getting ready to move here, and I went to close out my
account, there was only $2,000 in it. I had a six-figure savings account, Alan. And I spent it from 1991 to the end of
’95, it was all gone. And thank heaven, heaven sent me Chuck, because, Alan, I didn’t even know I was broke. And
when I got that $2,000, and I called the bank, and I said, somebody has been withdrawing from my account. And he
said, Jackie, no. This was in Carlinville, small town bank. But they sent me every single withdrawal slip and it was
there, and it was gone. And, as I pointed out to this gentleman. I said, if the people who are doing what they’re doing
are doing it for free and they run out of money, guess what happens. They can’t do it anymore.
Alan: I mean, there’s two professions I could choose from, but I’d rather do something that’s honest, you see. And I
certainly could get by a lot better than I’m doing. I’m not doing this to sell anything. I don’t make money, even on the
books, which I make up myself here right on the floor.
Jackie: Well, maybe you make four or five dollars, Alan. I mean, you did raise the price five dollars, at my insistence,
because I knew you were barely breaking even with the work, with the books. Because, when you’re only getting ten or
so done at a time, you’re paying through the nose for each copy.
Alan: Yeah, and I also asked if you get more done, is there a discount, and they said no.
Jackie: Well, see, where I go, there is. But you have to have a lot. Like, there’s a little bit of a break at a hundred.
There’s a better break at three hundred. And at five hundred, there’s a better break yet. Well, you can’t afford to do
that, because you don’t have the upfront money to make the savings, so that if your book sells.
Alan: And when I send them overseas, it’s $28.50 just for the mail.
Jackie: To mail it?
Alan: To mail them overseas.
Jackie: What’s overseas? Oh, to like Europe and that.
Alan: That’s right. Even the ones to the States, if I was going first class, would be about $20.00. I take second class
instead, you know.
Jackie: Well, I know it’s getting terrible over here, but I remember when our stamps were like 20 some cents a piece,
when I would get mail from Canada, a stamp was in the 50 cents. So, I know, as ours has gone up, yours had to go up
tremendously.
Alan: And plus, we have 15% tax on top of the price we see on the envelope.
Jackie: You have what?
Alan: Because we’re more democratic than you are, we pay extra taxes. So, we pay 15% over the cost. So, whatever
they charge you, it’s plus 15% extra.
Jackie: For what?
Alan: For everything. Paper, envelopes, mailing. There’s another 15% on top of the stamps.
Jackie: Oh, that’s for their handling your mail. That’s called handling charges, Alan.
Alan: Actually, I think they’re called pocket charges. They go into big pockets at the top there, big ones.
Jackie: Yeah. You mentioned something to me the other day, that you, well, and you didn’t seem surprised. I was. You
have had a couple book orders, but you said that people aren’t buying the books. They’re watching the video, you
know, free on your website. But that video doesn’t even compare to the information that’s in your books. One of the
things that really brings it home to me, is that you’ll use in the book, with the diagrams and photographs, they’re old,
they’re photocopies of old books that we couldn’t even get our hands on. And so, it makes what you’re writing, it
makes it ring true. And I remember one particularly, one of the kings or pharaohs or somebody was like a
hermaphrodite. Who was that?
Alan: That’s the famous Akhenaten.
Jackie: Akhenaten. Well, anyway, there was a photograph up there. It wasn’t Akhenaten. It’s in one of the books
though. It might be your first one, but the point is, I was surprised that so many people that go into your website and
that go into Sweet Liberty are not ordering the books. But you said, well, it’s part of the programming. People don’t
read anymore. I for some reason held our listeners in a whole different light, that they would be the ones that would
want to get their hands on something that would convince them. Maybe they believe what you’re saying. But it’s
different when you’re looking at these ancient writings and stuff, and you see, then you say, oh, my God, what he said
was true. So, I don’t know what to say about this.
Alan: What’s wrong is, as I say, everything now, and I’m so surprised, because apparently the sort of PayPal thing,
which is a play on something, people should say it over and over and they’ll get it, what it means. But it’s only been
around for about five years or so, really big time. And in five years, the people don’t know how to go and buy a postal
order any more, or mail something.
Jackie: Or they want PayPal.
Alan: And they want instant, instant you see.
Jackie: Oh, and I wrote PayPal down all in one word. Papal?
Alan: Papal, yeah. It’s a big, the bank, you know. And in five years they’re so conditioned that they’re ready, almost,
for their chip.
Jackie: But Alan, I have always held our listeners in a, it didn’t occur to me that anyone listening to this broadcast, with
the information that, even when you weren’t on, but especially when you’re on, the information that has been imparted
from this broadcast, for ten years it was, actually eight on shortwave, I wouldn’t think that anybody would listen that
really wasn’t seeking truth, and that was above, not above, but beyond or outside of, the programming, and well, instead
of buying a book and reading, but to sit and listen to somebody, or watch somebody talk. Maybe a lot of it, this just
occurred to me, you now, the news on television. Because they, people do have a tendency to believe everything that
announcer is saying. Maybe this is an override. And they say, well, I know it’s so, because Alan Watt said it. You
know how many times I said, do you remember those first twenty broadcasts that we did. You know. I don’t know how
many times, but I can remember so often saying, I don’t know that this is true just because Alan is saying it. Didn’t I,
Alan? I didn’t disbelieve you, but just because you were saying it, I didn’t know it was true. And then, of course, over
the years and with the books that you’ve written, especially those first two, well, I guess because they were such eye
openers to me, and then, now after all these years, you know, it was like listening to you on George Noory. And, I
talked to another one of our Sweet Liberty listeners. She said, there wasn’t anything you said that we didn’t already
know because we had covered these topics so much, but she said, what a great refresher course it was. But there has
been such wonderful information imparted, and folks, I don’t know. It’s up to you. Maybe you don’t want to get Alan’s
book. But maybe you would like to help support the cost of the website. One of our listeners and a friend of mine,
Alan, Darren had put out a thing and said, you know, that if he couldn’t get some help, I didn’t know this, because
Darren has been paying the cost of our website this whole time. But he said, he needed some help, and Jerry, one of our
listeners that actually, his help has just been immeasurable. But he said, well, we can’t let the website go down. So, he
called Darren, and said, tell me how much it is, you know, for the year, and he would finish it out. And that’s what I
would think and hope somebody who has the funds to do it, or somebody who would be willing to say, look, I don’t
have a lot, but here’s five bucks, or here’s ten bucks, because every little bit helps.
Alan: It helps, and it really is, as I say, and I hate even having to mention this. And I think people are so used to hearing
the begging pleas from the shortwave from the big boys, who are selling everything except the kitchen sink, and that
will come shortly with a built-in shortwave or a light on it or something. And I’m selling nothing. I’m giving the
information away on the site for them. And it’s not because I’ve got an ulterior motive, selling anything. It’s because I
know what’s going on, and that people have to get it very quickly, where we’re going. Very, very quickly, because the
time is getting so short. They’ve been trained so carefully and craftily, because the boys at the top understand their
natures, how they adapt so quickly. They’re ready for the cashless society. They’re ready for having their whole life
exposed by the government, which by the way, is called blackmail. They’re very good at blackmailing people. And
some people will say, well, I’ve got nothing to hide.
Jackie: I know.
Alan: Well, people should be indignant, because privacy is an essential part of freedom. Privacy.
Jackie: And over here we call it pry-vacy, folks. But I’m sure they knew what you meant, but, when you say pam, and
then I have to figure out you mean palm. I want to make sure our listeners know.
Alan: Yeah, well, you say tomayto.
Jackie: And you say tomahto.
Alan: Yeah, that’s it.
Jackie: Well, I know. I always felt the same way when we were on shortwave. In fact, it got to the point we’d get so far
behind, and Chuck would say, you’ve got to do a pledge night. And I’d say, Chuck, honey, not just yet. And finally
he’d say, look, I’ll do it for you. He dreaded it, but I dreaded it more. And yet here, I mean, it’s like, you know, Chuck
told them. I didn’t, but, oh my God, my life has been dedicated to this. And just one hour four nights a week, what you
put into it, as far as research and etc, not that I ever wrote everything down and stuff like that, but preparation, the time
that you give, and yet, and it was for them. Because I knew it all, or I couldn’t have been sharing it with them. And yet,
I hated to say, we need help here or we’re going to have to go off the air.
Just to make it easy for people so they don’t have to look it up, do you want to tell them a little bit about the books and
how they can get them, or how they can write to you if they wanted to.
Alan: Well, these three books are really, it’s an eye-opener. I don’t go through the whole history of the Illuminati to
entertain you or anything like that. There’s lots of fake ones put out there, for you to do and amuse you and amaze you.
I show you symbols and symbology that’s been controlling your mind all your life, and you haven’t even been
conscious of it. And I show you the ancient symbols, etc. And what I’ve done, has been much copied by the big boys,
believe you me. And if I was to say something new today, I guarantee you they’d all be quoting it tomorrow. That
happened just this week, in fact. I mentioned about the secret societies on one of the other shows, and the next day, a
person in Britain, who’s well known for chasing crocodiles, he’s got….
Jackie: We can say names on this broadcast.
Alan: It doesn’t matter. The fact is, sure enough, out came a whole bunch on secret societies. And I even mentioned the
other day on a blurb I did about movies to see, about one movie that was called Enemy Mine, and my God, the next day,
the D&J show on the shortwave mentioned Enemy Mine. I thought, my goodness, you know. Because they must keep
the big boys on top of all the information that’s coming out, you see. And that makes it seem as though they say it first,
and then they spin it, of course.
Jackie: Alan, I wanted to say this tonight, also. On your behalf, but I believe that you’re going to concur wholeheartedly
with me. For, example, there was one broadcast you were on, and you knew the background and bio of the person, and
you’re not on anymore, because something came up and you told the truth, and they didn’t like it. And that will happen.
But you’ve been invited on some broadcasts that actually are hosted by controlled opposition. And I wanted our
listeners to know, I think this is important, that just because you’re on a broadcast with somebody, doesn’t mean that
you endorse or embrace in any way, shape, or form. It’s that you want to take the opportunity to get the word out to as
many people as possible.
Alan: That’s it. And I think also, since the world was conquered, divided, and subdivided, etc, right down to the minute
atom, almost, division is the big controlling factor here by the big boys. And sometimes it’s better to try and converse
with someone who’s sworn to be against what you stand for, in the hope that on a one-to-one basis you’ll get through to
them, rather than cause conflict. Once you argue, the game is over, you know. So you can sow a seed here and there,
and it’s up to the conscience then, because that seed won’t go away from that person.
Jackie: Right. It might be slow germinating, but the seed has been planted. I just wanted to say that though, because I
remember when Jim McCanny was on Coast to Coast, and we talked about it, and I said, you know, the thing that
concerns me, is that we know that no radio broadcast is going to be on 500 AM stations, all over the country, unless,
maybe knowingly, or unknowingly, Alan, they’re putting out disinformation. And then it kind of, I was concerned that
he would get all jumbled up with all the rest, but I told him, I said, I really understand it. I mean, I don’t have a
particular thing, but had I ever been invited to go on there, on a particular topic that I could talk about, I wouldn’t have
said no.
Alan: See, the problem today, well it’s sort of boiling it down into something which is just a bit too small, but one of the
problems today is that people don’t know the difference between fiction and non-fiction, and they’ve been trained that
way for their whole lives, actually, since they began to bring Sport and Entertainment into the news broadcasts. So, half
of it is Hollywood and half of it is supposed to be news, until it’s all sort of mushed together, and there’s wars abroad
and people getting killed, and then there’s somebody getting an affair in Hollywood, and some sports guy kicks a ball
somewhere and gets applauded. It’s all mushed up until nothing is real anymore. And so, people can’t differentiate
what’s real or not. And they’ve been caught up in a fictional, entertainment type program. And their minds are being
shaped for them, unawares, because it’s primarily through entertainment that you do preconditioning. You put it into
their minds of a possibility to come. And once you accept it in a fictional form, because your defenses are down, when
you start to see it materialize in your life, you don’t oppose it. It seems somehow familiar. And that’s because it’s
predictive programming, they call it. It’s a form of programming. And they found this out in World War I, in Britain.
When the BBC began its radio broadcasts, they were running so short of troops that they used Tavistock Institute to
come up with ways of behavior modification amongst the public, and Tavistock suggested using fictional plays on radio.
And so, every day at noon, everybody would tune in, and you were left with a sort of cliffhanger, tune in tomorrow for
part 2 or 3 or whatever. And that was how they started to put these ideas into your head, and of course, it was to do with
war and bravery and heroism, and there was real people called Tom and Joe and James, and here they are in the
trenches, going to be killed. What will happen next? See tomorrow. Now, this was all geared at the youth to get them
to join up. And so, they used that very successfully.
Jackie: And they make heroes out of the soldiers. They glorify war is what they do, Alan.
Alan: They do. And the Pentagon has admitted from two years ago, they put millions into Hollywood after 9/11 to put
out these movies like Jarhead, to get the youngsters to join up.
Jackie: I don’t know what Jarhead was.
Alan: It means a Marine, you know. But it’s aimed primarily at young black guys, who really are sort of the ghetto
types that have no…
Jackie: No future ahead of them.
Alan: Yeah. And suddenly you put a uniform on and your government suddenly respects you. You see, that’s the
message. You get instant respect if you put that uniform on. But really, all you are is a number to go off and get killed.
And like Kissinger said in the book about Kissinger. He said, when he was asked the question, what does he think of
the American troops. And this was in the Vietnam era, that was by Woodward and Bernstein. Kissinger said to the
reporters, he says, Well, the troops are just dumb, stupid animals who are used for foreign policy. Now, what more do
you want?
Jackie: I heard David Lang from the Bank of Canada on a tape from the fourth World Wilderness Conference. He got
up to talk about the bank. He said, this is a wonderful idea, unfortunately, the cannon fodder that inhabits this earth
would not understand a not-for-profit bank. It’s got to be a profit. But, that’s how he said it, that casually.
Alan: He said this generation is the cannon fodder in that speech.
Jackie: Kissinger said that?
Alan: No, that was at the World Bank one, I’m talking about. But the Kissinger one was his reply about the troops, and
he was telling you honestly what they are. They are dumb, because they’re too young to know anything. They’re stupid
in the sense that they get the same propaganda as everybody else.
Jackie: Oh, we have to take a break. I heard the music. Okay, keep your thought.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright. We’re back folks, with Alan Watt. Alan, you were talking, well, you mentioned the movie Jarhead, and
how they use entertainment.
Alan: That’s so a young guy can fantasize of being a hero, because every young man thinks he’s immortal. He cannot
imagine death. And it’s always going to be somebody else, and death is unreal and it’s in the movies and so on. And as
I say, Woodward and Bernstein said that about foreign policy. And we better realize that foreign policy is not dreamed
up on the spur of a moment, or a catastrophe, or whatever. Foreign policy is a far-ahead planned strategy of money,
economics, etc, and takeovers. That’s what foreign policy is all about. So, when Kissinger spoke the truth, he said the
soldier is a dumb, stupid animal to be used for foreign policy, he was talking as one of the elite, knowing that that is
basically the truth. They’re not going off to fight for the reasons they think they are. They’re going off fighting for a
long-term strategy that was planned way in advance. And they should realize that. It’s like Karl Marx said, every
system that’s ever existed in civilization, and he was a Mason, so he should know, civilization being their system of
money and control and power. Every era has been basically formed on an economic system. And that’s the system we
live in today. It’s an economic system. And war is about economics, and not for the public of a country.
Jackie: Well, you know, they have multiple layers for everything they do, and remember when Norman Dodd got those
archives from, what was it, Carnegie Foundation. And they said that they had set up a committee to study whether there
was any other way better than war, if you wanted to change a society and a people and make sure they never returned to
where they were. And this committee, the conference, came up with the answer and said, no. There is no way better
than war. And, of course, it is economic and it is also part of the way that they mold the people.
Alan: I think one of the keys to it, is that, you see, the people who have always run empires, run empires by the use of
terror. And terror can take many different approaches to how it effects people. Some are very subtle, some are overt.
Sometimes it’s all shouting, more than reality, like the Bird Flu for instance. But there’s terror none the same. Now,
when war ceases, and they know this, once they get their global government on the go, when war ceases they have to
keep everybody, to legitimize the need for government, and especially massive government, as they have, you must find
enemies everywhere. And of course that was the Soviet strategy. It’s been well tested there, because once the Soviets
took over, or the Bolsheviks went in and the Soviet regime began, and they took over all those little countries, no one
was invading them; there was a little invasion by Britain for a sort of half-hearted attempt, but afterwards they were
pretty safe. No one was invading them. And to hold power, the Soviets had to find enemies everywhere, and that was a
reign of terror, you see, that there were terrorists everywhere, so the government had a reign of terror. And they just
picked people up all over the place, accused them of being spies or anti-Soviet and so on. And trained the public that
they were all around you, they were within you, and it could be you yourself. And that is what we’re seeing now with
this War on Terror, for the New American Century policy, that Cheney and Perle and Wolfowitz and the rest of them
planned in the ’90s, and published. What you’re seeing is a reign of terror on the minds of the public, everywhere.
Jackie: When you say Cheney and who was it?
Alan: Wolfowitz.
Jackie: Okay, but there were people behind them.
Alan: Oh, there was Perle too, Richard Perle, and a whole bunch of them.
Jackie: Okay, but what I’m saying is, it wasn’t just them.
Alan: Oh, I know.
Jackie: Because, you said this many times, and I am convinced that these people that we know of that are out there in the
limelight…
Alan: Are frontmen.
Jackie: They’re frontmen. They didn’t plan anything. They probably got together and smoked a few cigars and had a
few drinks, and they had all the paper in front of them, because it was already laid out, but they were the ones that were
acknowledged and now becoming infamous for it.
Alan: You never ever put your main men to the public. Because, if you lost them, then a good part of knowledge is
gone. You always put someone who is very useful, but really is also disposable, if need be. And that’s standard, all
down through history.
Jackie: And they don’t care. You know, they can be slammed, I mean, of course, the media being controlled, they’ll
write their pieces to get their “say in”. Nothing ever happens to these people. So, it doesn’t matter to them whether
they’re being slammed in the eyes of the public.
Alan: Well, that’s what the president is for. See, a president and a prime minister, their job is to take the heat. They
take the heat. And it’s a wrestling match for the public. You know, you slang Giant Mountain Man against Giant
Haystack.
Jackie: And there are so many, oh my goodness, so many movements afoot, to get Bush impeached, as though that’s
ever going to happen, Alan.
Alan: It wouldn’t make any difference, as we know, because whoever takes over is sworn to the same agenda as he was.
Jackie: Well, in other words, if he did get impeached, it would be part of the plan.
Alan: Yeah. I mean, John Kerry already said when he was running, and it was so funny at the time, because there was a
Canadian from BC who was actually managing the Kerry campaign for America, a Canadian citizen, and there was
David Fromm from Canada, as the main advisor to Bush. I mean, I thought, boy, this is a joke, you know. And they
were writing the scripts and everything for Americans to hear, using all the Hollywood clichés and everything else. And
I thought, boy oh boy, you know, it’s a wonderful web they weave, indeed. But, yeah, presidents and prime ministers
just take the heat. And we don’t vote a new government in. What we do always is vote the old guys out, we’re so fed
up. That really is how democracy really is about, you know.
Jackie: Right. Democracy. And we don’t vote anybody in or out, do we?
Alan: No, never. In fact, the bureaucrats that have been lifelong bureaucrats in federal governments and the heads of
those departments are not voted in by anybody. Most of them are unknown to the public and remain unknown, and yet,
they dialog straight to the United Nations for all their parts of the agenda.
Jackie: You know, back in ’92 when I was campaigning for Bo Gritz, I told you, I was apolitical all my life. I knew
nothing about politics. I knew nothing, pretty much about anything. But I was very, you know, taken in by Bo Gritz.
Alan, I just lost my train of thought. I went thinking out there so far that I lost my train of thought.
Alan: I think maybe it was to do with his appearance after 9/11. After coming off the shortwave radio, only about a
month or two before, and there he was, pictured on the Congressional steps, he just happened to be there, and so did the
camera crew. And he was asked, Mr Gritz, you know, as the most decorated Vietnam veteran, etc – the man who had
done years on the shortwave, supposedly for Patriot broadcasting…
Jackie: The hero, yes.
Alan: And there he was, he was asked, who do you think probably blew up the towers. He says, it’s probably those
paranoid black-helicopter-seeing militia types that listen to the shortwave radio. That’s your frontman. This is the guy
who boasted when he left the army that he left it with hip-pocket orders.
Jackie: Hip-pocket orders. Well, I remember what I was going to say. You were talking about elections. And this is
how naive I was, and how intense I was about what I was doing. When the election was over, this one guy said to me,
we need to start planning for the next election, and Alan, I looked at him, and I meant this. I said, do you actually think
that we’re going to have another election in this country? And he said, Jackie, they have elections in Russia. They had
them in the Soviet Union. But, to me, at that time, it was, things were so intense that I thought, well, there will never be
another election again. You know, because we’ve lost it. But the whole point is, there aren’t elections, because they’re
all phony.
Alan: They’re all phony. It came out in Britain, that Tony Blair, and I’ve been waiting, because they always tell you
who these guys are after, once they leave, but he’s not left yet. But they did declassify some information that said that
he was recruited at university, Oxford, of course, by MI5 to go into Left Wing groups and spy on them. So, basically,
MI5 put their own man in as prime minister. How’s that?
Jackie: Wow. Well, like the CIA probably puts their…
Alan: Well, look at Daddy Bush. He worked for the CIA for years. So, it’s such a farce to watch this, the shenanigans
continue, and the public continue to support them as though they’re real people.
Jackie: Yeah. And another thing that makes me feel sad, is the people, and yet, I want to qualify this, the people who
sincerely, because they know that Bush is a bad guy, and they are working very, very hard, hoping and praying that
they’ll get him impeached, Alan. And I look at it now, and I say, they don’t even realize it, but they’ve become the
opposition that’s necessary for this whole thing to continue. However, there’s another way that I have of looking at this,
because I know my sincerity, Alan, when I first started out. I mean, geez, my whole thing was saving the Constitution,
and Alan, that’s what I went through my life savings for, and then, I found out that our Constitution was a frame-up.
Okay, but, look, just, you know, bear with me here. I started out that naive. And that much love with my country, with
what the country stood for, even the flag, Alan. I was one of those flag-waving Americans, proud to be an American.
And what I’m saying is, I look at it today, and oh, my God. But how, see, not to put these people down, I guess that’s
what I’m saying, because they’re sincere, and we don’t realize when we’re doing all this stuff, that we’re just, we’re part
of a plan. And Alan, I’ve wondered if you and I are part of a plan sometimes. In other words, I don’t know, maybe we
are cutting through the matrix.
Alan: Oh, I know, that’s the thing. I mean eventually I’ll give them so much stuff to do with the occult explanations,
and I’m telling you, they’re not buying it from the bookstores, the stuff I’ll be giving them, and really, it will open their
eyes. It will open their eyes.
Jackie: Well, I’ve often wondered that.
Alan: This is the time for it, you know.
Jackie: As controlled as this world is, if my being on the air and imparting all the information that I did. I mean, a lot of
it was on a political vein. I mean, we covered everything. We covered the educational system and regional governance
and States’ rights, and just everything, Alan. We covered the chemtrails. But maybe, what each person does that is
sincere, maybe they’re exactly where they’re supposed to be at that particular time. And maybe that’s the opening for
them, if you would. You know, like my first foray into this whole thing was campaigning for Bo Gritz for president.
You see what I’m saying. And you know, I felt sorry for the people that were campaigning for Ross Perot, Alan.
Because I knew he was a phony. Well, you know how I knew he was a phony? Because he was on mainstream media.
Alan: Exactly, exactly.
Jackie: However, I felt sorry for them. I felt compassionate. Because I knew that what they were doing they so believed
in, and here I am campaigning for Bo Gritz. So, you know, one of the new people to our website and the radio
broadcast had written, and he said that it looks like, you know, that there’s nothing that we can do, or should do, just let
it unfold. Well, I said, I think that would be saying, okay, nobody says anything and they just steamroller. They’re
steamrolling over us. But basically part of the conversation was fighting against it. And I said, maybe it has nothing to
do with fighting against something. Maybe it is taking a stand for something, Alan.
Alan: Well, what I’m doing is telling them. I mean, the people will choose where they want to go, and they are, even if
they want to be willingly blind. But they’re choosing where they want to go. And all I’m doing is telling them, and I
have no doubt that many of them will like this World Socialism, which is only a transitory phase to the next type of
human, which has been widely discussed in all the scientific papers and meetings.
Jackie: The Soviet Man.
Alan: The Soviet man, the real Soviet, the real genetically made one.
Jackie: Yes, the Soviet Man.
Alan: And if they don’t want to hold on to this thing called individual sentience as an intelligent being. An individual
sentience, a unique creature. If they want to give that up, then for them, so be it. But personally, I won’t, for me.
Jackie: But did you hear what I said though? Basically what he was talking about is somehow we have to have a plan to
stop this. Do you see what I’m saying, Alan? I don’t see it being stopped. I see it being derailed. I think it’s been
derailed down throughout the ages.
Alan: You can certainly slow this thing down and try to get a breathing space, while people catch up and really
understand where they’re going. Where they’ve been going. And if they want to consent to it, as I say, you give your
power to the Beast and on you go. But no one can ever say at the end of their life, if they were asked, did you know
what was happening? Yeah. Did you do anything about it? No. That’s it. That’s the bottom line. What did you do
with your life? That’s it. No one can say I didn’t know. And then ask some Creator, now let me go on from here. Why
would you give anybody, anybody, that kind of gift and say there’s nothing here for anyone else? Boy, that’s a human
thing, isn’t it? “I deserve it.”
Jackie: No, it isn’t. It’s Christian.
Alan: Whatever, whatever. And the New Age too are just the same.
Jackie: And I’m saying Christian in the sense that Christianity is today. It has nothing to do with the teachings of one
that we have known as Jesus.
Alan: It never does. It’s dogma that comes after it that totally alters everything, and you end up with different classes of
Christians. It’s so sad. You know. And divided and…
Jackie: Well, and besides that, what I’ve noticed so much is that there’s so much self righteousness.
Alan: There always is.
Jackie: And judgmentalness.
Alan: All religions have that.
Jackie: They seem to know who’s going to hell and who isn’t.
Alan: All religions have that. All religions, you know. I mean, I’ve heard the top people of different religious sects
bombasting everybody else. And yet, they themselves are supposed to be, some of them think they’re godlike.
Jackie: Well, it’s every religion. I know what you mean, yeah.
Alan: But that’s the pettiness of humanity.
Jackie: I had a friend at one time, we used to have conversations. He was, a, I would say, call it hellfire-and-brimstone
Christian. He had even eyes that remind me of what “Saint Paul” would have looked like. Like, you know what I’m
saying. Fire and just looking down on everybody. And he looked at me one time, because, you know, we had
conversations. And he looked at me one time, and he says, isn’t it a shame honey that so many good people are going to
go to hell. And I said, who, Bobby, like me? Because I don’t “believe” the way you believe. But it was said with such
pride. And I said, you know what. He also told me that because he was a divorcee and he had a daughter, that God was
no longer in that home. And I said, I don’t understand what you mean. He says, the man is the godhood. You know,
that was by Paul, that said that. The man is the godhood of the home. I said, are you telling me you actually believe
that because you’re not there that our heavenly father is not there? And I said, Bobby, if you really believe it, and I
know you love your wife, I mean, loved her, and she is the mother of your daughter, and I know you love your daughter.
He was saying it with this boastful, chest out, I’m going to heaven, they’re going to hell.
Alan: Well you know, Socrates said it thousands of years ago, when he was talking about the different sects they had in
Greece at the time. He said, not content, he says, with making laws all about nature, meaning, how nature worked, he
says, now they’re making laws about the afterlife and the world to come and the conditions to get there. Nothing has
changed. Petty people always go the same way.
Jackie: Wow. Well, you know what, Alan?
Alan: I’ve got to go.
Jackie: Oh, do you? Oh, no. Alan, it’s not even ten till yet.
Alan: Yeah, but I think it might have been between ten to and five to.
Jackie: It is not.
Alan: No, but what I mean, when the call will come here.
Jackie: Oh, I see. Well, if they get a busy signal, they’ll call you back, won’t they?
Alan: Well, I don’t know.
Jackie: Oh, man.
Alan: But you could explain that, because there’s so much on that site. They’re getting all of it free.
Jackie: Yeah, well, I’ve got something that I was going to bring up anyway, and I’m going to bring it up. I mean, I
made a couple notes while we were talking, and I will, of course, mention the site. But about how they use
entertainment to get things in our head.
Alan: Yeah, predictive programming.
Jackie: And what’s happening right now, with the immigration thing. Well, they’ve had a movie about it, already, The
Second American Civil War. Alan, thank you. Now, whoa, where are you going to be?
Alan: I think it’s called kevinsmith.com.
Jackie: It’s only on the internet. Okay, kevinsmith.com. And you’re going to be on at 10pm?
Alan: Till 12.
Jackie: Oh, 10 to 12. Okay, alright, Alan.
Alan: Okey-doke.
Jackie: Thanks for being here tonight.
Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Okay, you hang up, and see what happens.
Alan: Okay.
Jackie: Okay, bye.
Alan: Bye now.
Jackie: Okay folks, I guess we’re okay. I wasn’t sure I was going to get a dial tone or not. Let me give you Alan’s
website, for those of you who aren’t aware of it. I can’t imagine any of you aren’t. It’s Cutting Through the Matrix,
.com. And you might want to take a look. In the books, the three books that he’s written, Cutting Through, Cutting
Through is what it is. He calls it the Matrix, I called it B.S., because it is. But you can actually read excerpts of his
books. Any way that you can help and see by getting the books, you’re actually helping yourself too. It’s exactly what
you’re doing.
What I wanted to mention. When he was talking about how they use entertainment, I had mentioned this to Alan before.
I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it on the air or not. There was a movie put out, and I’m relating this to what’s happening
today with the immigration thing, the, oh, my God, the insanity. The Latinos, the Mexicans, even Mexican citizens, I
mean, American citizen Mexicans, they’re having a big rally, they claim that they’re taking over America. America is a
white and aging America. They’re not having babies. And that they’re taking over America. Now, I want to remind
you that a few years ago, probably about four years ago, maybe five, USA Today. I have the newspaper here, a big
headline, and it said, right on the front page, if you can’t speak Spanish, you may be left behind. Okay? What is
happening today, just know this folks, it is so planned. It has been so planned for so long, and I know that Alan and I
talked about this. When you think about the American Civil War, and it was a war of Northern aggression. It had
nothing to do with slavery, and that is true. But what they did is they wound up with a standing army. A standing army
for the first time in this country. And remember, excuse me. Oh, my God. We’re out of time. Well, grandfather is
running slow. I’m going to have to fix him. We’ll be back with you next Wednesday night, folks. And it will be 10pm
very shortly Eastern Time. And if you want to hear Alan, kevinsmith.com. And I’ll be back with you, as I said,
probably with Alan, next Wednesday night. Okay, so I talked myself right through what I wanted to talk to you about,
but, it’s alright I guess. We’ll see you next Wednesday night, folks.
April 26th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Thank you for joining us again tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday, the 26th of April in
the year 2006. And I’m glad you’re with us tonight, and I’m glad that Alan is with us tonight, also. Alan,
thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: So, what’s going on?
Alan: Oh, I’m just busy with all the emails that are coming in and getting stuff printed up for sending out.
That’s really what takes the time, is making them up, and getting them all packaged.
Jackie: You’re talking about the books, taking them up to get them copied?
Alan: That’s right. I went in on Monday, yesterday, for another bunch. And I went into chapters and the
same thing happened that happened before. I was first there to make sure when it opened. And she says,
come back about twelvish. I came back at 1PM. And they hadn’t started it. She said both machines broke
down when they tried to do the double-sided. And the people, of course, were coming and going with the
single sheet copies, side copies, so, again it worked fine for the other ones, but not for me. So, I managed
to go to another small printer, who did do them up in about an hour and a half.
Jackie: Then go to the small printer from now on.
Alan: Yeah. So, that was quite something.
Jackie: Well, I’m glad to hear you’re getting orders for that book. That you were losing, you were losing
faith. Or maybe, I don’t know, you know, like you said, well, people don’t like to read.
Alan: They don’t.
Jackie: There are certain, there’s a certain type of people, that I believe listen to the Sweet Liberty
Broadcast. And of course, you’ve been on here, with us on and off, ever since 1998. And they’re different.
I believe they’re different, or they wouldn’t be listening, Alan.
Alan: There will also be another group, I think, as well, that are new ones, newcomers, from the other
shows, you know. And maybe that’s part of it too.
Jackie: It would be interesting if people when they wrote say where they heard you. And did they, we better
make sure in fact. Maybe we could do that right now, is to let our listeners, well, I can do it. Folks, if you’re
ordering Alan’s books, those are the three that he’s done, Cutting Through, 1, 2, and 3. And he cannot use
a postal money order, a US postal money order. So, when you order the books, either send an international
postal money order, and you can get them right at your post office. And I live in the boons, and I can get
them from our little post office, so, I know that any post office you go into, just tell them you need an
international postal money order.
Alan: That’s right. And I’ve got a bunch here that I have to send back, because they’re all just internal
postal orders for the US. And it says it right on it, where they sign their name, valid only within the United
States.
Jackie: Well, I know, but you know what, I’m not making excuses, but I don’t know if I’d read that.
Because, if I went in and asked for a money order, I don’t know if I’d read that. So, that’s why I wanted to
make it real, real clear. And I’m not doing this in a way that denigrates people. I just know that it’s so
natural just to go in and get a postal money order. So, we have to make sure when we do talk about it, that
people do understand that.
Alan: International. Yeah, they’ve got to be international.
Jackie: Yes, it has to be international.
Alan: It’s the same. You buy it at the same price, as far as I know. And it speeds things up on my end.
Rather than me send them all back, and waiting for them to come back again.
Jackie: Yes. Well, I’m glad to hear that people are ordering the book, Alan. It shows me that they want to
find out for themselves. And they want to do further research.
Alan; Yeah, these books, as I say, they’re…
Jackie: Instead of being entertained by two people having a conversation.
Alan: That’s right. As I say, these books are written to just sort of try and wake the person up, as they’re
reading them, because I realized that all the books with the usual format and the Illuminati and all this kind
of stuff, because we’re trained in a certain way, they don’t remember it. It doesn’t have an impact on them.
And so, I use a different technique of writing, where they almost participate. In other words, it makes them
think as they’re reading. It makes them think as they’re reading.
Jackie: Well, in some of those photocopy pictures, drawings, and from the writings, from the old books,
because those go back a long way. I had one of our listeners write me, and he says, oh, I just found out
you’ve been hanging out with Alan Watt. He says, you were just blowing away his something. But he
meant that, of course, in a positive way. Geez, I was going to, never mind. The reason I brought that up
has slipped my mind.
Alan: What you’ll find, as I say, there’s so much stuff. People will ask me often, what other books can I read
about. And so on. And what you’ll find on the major bookshelves, books are purposely put out here for a
paper trail to be laid for you. And whatever is exposing Masonry generally comes from Masons themselves,
or the high, the very high Masons. And it’s time to expose certain parts, because they don’t need the lower
Freemasonry anymore. So, I tell people, don’t waste your money buying the oohs, and ahs, type books, that
astound you with the ooh and ah. These are put out there for your consumption, because the real stuff is
held by the elite, although you can teach people, because you can discern between the lines, what they’re
referring to, especially if you understand history.
Jackie: What, you know what, you’re right. Because I’ve re-read stuff that I’d read in the past. And so
much jumps out at me Alan, that I would have never noticed before. And one of the things, in fact, I
responded this too, maybe it was this gentleman. But, I didn’t know about the priesthood, and, of course,
you certainly made us very aware of that right in those beginning twenty hours that we did, on the air.
Folks, it wasn’t twenty hours in a row, but it was four nights a week for five weeks, an hour each time. And
it was our primer course, wasn’t it, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, definitely.
Jackie: But the interesting thing is, so much of what I read, it mentions very casually, almost offhandedly the
priesthood. But it’s always there.
Alan: It’s always there.
Jackie: It’s always there, and even though I’m re-reading stuff, I never noticed it before. Never noticed it
before. Then, in the place where it is, it really does, it really does confirm what you had told us.
Alan: Yeah, the world has been under a controlled system a long time. And people think we’re just evolving
with technology and this kind of thing. They don’t realize that outside the technology, it’s the same
moneyed type system, the same work ethic for the people. In other words, that’s your function is to serve
the system. And they don’t realize that it’s been manipulated down through the thousands of years, the
same system, really. Commerce, money…
Jackie: And the priest-Sumer.
Alan: Yeah, priest-Sumer, definitely. Sumer, they didn’t invent this by themselves. In fact, they sprung up
out of nowhere with this whole system right there. So, they learned it from a previous civilization, which
they think are called the Harrapans, and the Harrapans, no doubt got it from an even older civilization. The
Harrapans is the name the historians and the archaeologists are giving to the people who inhabited cities
they’re digging up now, underneath all the old Sumerian trade routes. And these houses were very well
built. They even had indoor running water and showers even. And we’re going 6,000-7,000 BC. So, this is
an ancient, ancient commercial type system that’s come down through the ages. Money is the key to
everything. The whole structure of what we think is normalcy is really a system which is held together by
money. And it’s not a happenstance thing for simply a bunch of elite to control. It’s got a purpose and it’s
got direction. And they’ve always known the purpose and direction. And they literally plan centuries ahead
at a time. And you know, the first inkling I got of that was when I read the Communist Manifesto and then
watched the implementation in the Soviet System of a ten year plan for one particular area, twenty for
another particular area, in the society, maybe fifty, and a hundred year plan for another. And then you find
that the United Nations runs on the exact same principle. So, it’s like a huge investment business, really this
world. And like any big corporation, they plan out the next hundred years of investments. And that’s really
what they do. And so, the major events within your life, just like 9/11, were planned long before it actually
happened. Long before, they published their own books on it, like Brzezinski, talking about the necessity of
a Pearl Harbor type event to motivate the public, behind this war, so that they could invade Afghanistan first,
then Iraq, then Iran, and then Syria. So, these guys plan it way ahead. Now, we know they all belong to
these shady organizations, which the public have been conned into thinking are official government
agencies, like the Council on Foreign Relations, but they’re not. They’re private institutions with an agenda,
and they were created, that branch was created from the Cecil Rhodes branch of the Royal Institute for
International Affairs in the late 1800s, in order to bring about a global government with three united trading
blocs. So, it’s exactly the same as the Communist Manifesto. That’s what you find.
Jackie: That would be the purpose of the Trilateral Commission.
Alan: It’s the three trading bloc areas of the world, and it’s also the merging of the three parts of the
American continent. That’s also the other part of it.
Jackie: I thought about this. You know, when America was first growing, there were thirteen colonies. But
think about this though. They were separate states. They were, you know, under the articles of
confederation that, what did they call it, Continental Congress. It had no power whatsoever. And when they
joined them all together in the United States, then it’s no different than the United Europe countries. I
mean, that was the beginning of it. And you know, somebody mentioned this to me at one time, and I
checked it out and found that it was so. If you look at a map, each country is a different color. Okay. Now
if you look at the United States map, each state is a different color. It isn’t all one color, like America. And it
pretty much confirms they’re aware that these were separate sovereign nations at one time.
Alan: What it really is, and I’ll tell you what really got me. I don’t know if you saw the movie, it’s called
Gangs of New York.
Jackie: Oh, Gangs of New York. Somebody was telling me they just saw it.
Alan: It’s an interesting take on the gangs that ran the extortion rackets in New York City.
Jackie: From way back.
Alan: In the 1800s. And how they competed with each other and fought with each other. But it also
showed you the leader of one gang, who was in cahoots with the early politicians. And they would meet
every so often. And once the politician says, you know, the public are getting restless with the crime, we’ll
have to give them a sacrifice, who can you spare? So, the leader of the gangs thought of three older guys
that he didn’t need anymore. He got them set up to be arrested, and they publicly hung them.
Jackie: So, they were actually giving us inside information with that.
Alan: Well, at the end of the movie was incredible, because, at the end of the movie, the two major gangs
were squaring up for a battle to see who was going to take over the whole territory, the whole city. And it
was at the time when the American Civil War was beginning. And just when they were squaring off for
fighting, in come these cannon shells from the brand new American Navy that was created, and they started
shelling them. And then the troops came in, organized military troops. And the message really was, it was
never said, but the message was implicit in what you saw. The biggest gang of all has arrived. The Federal
Gang.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, now, do you know what, maybe it was Jeff who saw it, but one of them, he said was,
that they were actually rioting when they were going to initiate the draft. And the federal government came
in and shot them down.
Alan: The biggest gang that had convinced the public. You see, extortion rackets run on threatening people
and they’ll say to you, give me so much money and I’ll let you stay open another week. Well, the
government trained the public that taxation is different, because it’s a different word, you see. That’s all;
that’s the only difference there is. And they train you that it’s somehow normal, and you pay them that
money and they leave you alone until the next year. It’s the same racket.
Jackie: What does that have to do with initiating the draft, though? There was one segment where the
people were actually opposing the initiating of the draft.
Alan: Oh yeah. Because they were well… A lot of people were well aware that this war had bigger, it’s
actually like it’s 9/11 again. Had much bigger…
Jackie: Would that have been the first World War when they were going to institute the draft, were they
going to do it then?
Alan: Well, yeah, but they did it in the American Civil War in the North. And so, this new federal
government…
Jackie: That’s why they were opposing it. They were drafting people, weren’t they?
Alan: They were. And all you had was a business takeover of all the Southern properties. It was a business.
It was an economic war, like all wars are economic, ultimately.
Jackie: Did you think that was true, because, I mean, this was a movie, but do you think that that was true,
that there was an opposition against it? And the federal government came in.
Alan: Oh, it’s recorded that there was a lot of opposition to this, absolutely.
Jackie: But, was it recorded that the federal government intervened and came in and shot at them?
Alan: Oh, yeah. The federal government were sent too, and also grabbed people who were enlisted and
didn’t turn up. So, it was. You see, democracy is wonderful. There’s no choice in democracy. And there’s
no complaints department, you notice. It’s one way or no way. And this is the system. But all it is, is one
huge gang at the top. And the federal government is just the biggest gang taking over and instituting by
law.
Jackie: The beginning, wasn’t it, Alan?
Alan: Yeah. The same con game as the little gangs had been playing for years.
Jackie: Well, actually, big time, since the US Constitution.
Alan: Well, the con part is good. Because really, they’d had meetings in Europe with all these top leaders of
different countries. They were so used to having wars that they used to toss coins to say, well, whose turn
is it next time to start a war. Who’s going to win it? They’d all invest in the shipping and armaments and all
the rest of it. And the elite would benefit. It didn’t matter who won or lost. They all won. And they had
meetings. And then they realized that they couldn’t take the whole world over. The way it stood, no one
trusted London, because they knew that they just went in to rape and pillage and loot for London’s sake.
And I say London, because those were the guys who benefited, was the big elite who lived in London. And
they couldn’t use France, because they had a similar story at one point. Spain too. They’re all too old
countries. So, they had to create a knight in shining armor that would pretend to lead the world into a New
World Order, a Novus Ordo Seclorum. It’s right on the seal there. And they created the United States, as
supposedly a champion for the world. And that’s their job. It was to bring the whole world under the one
system, under a deception. And that’s exactly what it’s doing.
Jackie: And that the United States of America, was initially founded with this whole thing in mind. I read
something somewhere at one time about, was it the chair, the seat of George Washington at the
Constitutional Convention, that there was a sunrise on it, Masonic, and there was debate on whether it was
depicting a sunrise or a sunset.
Alan: And Franklin at that very speech at the table with Washington, when they toasted him as the Grand
Master of these United States, and that’s in Franklin’s own writings, he talked about the picture behind him,
the portrait, also depicting a Masonic sunrise and the chair. So, this was well understood. These were all
Freemasons with a job to do that the public would never understand until it was completed.
Jackie: Well, for our listeners, who may not have heard this, I have a book entitled an Economic
Interpretation of the Constitution, and it was written by Beard. I think it was Charles Beard. And I do know
that one of our listeners in Ohio, one who was a major supporter of the Sweet Liberty Broadcast, while we
were on shortwave, had called me and said, how do I get it? And I found it for him on Abe Books. But Alan,
when you read that book, the names of each of the fifty-five men there, what their background was, I mean,
they were lawyers. They were land developers. Every single one of them.
Alan: And big land developers.
Jackie: There were only a couple or three there, that didn’t have at least apparently, huge sums of money.
But they all, every single one of them benefited when that Constitution was ratified. And I’m the one, that
thing that Noah Webster wrote, that I will defend the Constitution with my last breath. Alan, that was me.
Well, you know that, don’t you?
Alan: Yeah. (Chuckle)
Jackie: Yeah, well, you think it’s funny. I guess it is. It’s kind of pathetic.
Alan: Yeah, but that’s the conditioning everybody has got, you see.
Jackie: Oh, man.
Alan: You see, the password, even at the…
Jackie: I just wanted to finish this. The name of the book, again, folks, if you wanted to look for it, or even
in your library, is the Economic Interpretation of the Constitution, and it is not pleasant to read. But for me,
I want the truth, no matter how hurtful it is. And Beard is his last name. I think it was Charles Beard who
wrote it.
Alan: And it was a setup from the beginning. They had to make it look real. We know from the various
Masonic writings that have been published since then, that George Washington used to meet with other
members of the British Army in their Lodges, during that war. And he even signed his name in their books,
you know. So, it was a sort of put-on. Even Cornwallis, if you read the histories of Cornwallis, he led the
party in Britain, initially to allow America to become a separate country. And the next thing you know, he’s
given the very appointment to oppose them? This is a Masonic ritual you’re seeing there.
Jackie: Say that again.
Alan: Cornwallis actually stood up. He was a member of the House of Lords or Parliament. And he stood
up, in his own memoirs, it’s recorded, and addressed the Parliament, and asked them to allow America to be
a separate nation, but still done under the form of a Commonwealth, the British Commonwealth. In other
words, it would follow the same laws, etc.
Jackie: And that was before the war. The war actually, the battle had ended, and that war wasn’t really
ended formally.
Alan: No. What I’m saying is, this was before the war begun.
Jackie: Oh, the revolution?
Alan: Yeah. So, he actually led the party to leave America alone. And yet, the crown appointed him as the
guy to go and oppose America. You see, it wouldn’t make sense unless he was let in on the big secret, that
this was a show for the world. I mean, Washington came out of that with I think twenty miles more of,
square miles, or more of land. So, he was a busy guy, you know.
Jackie: At Natural Bridges National Park there was a big sign there, and the land was George Washington’s.
Lots and lots of land, Alan.
Alan: Oh, massive. And what people forget too, is these landowners, they were big landowners. You see,
these weren’t just little guys with a plot of land. And these guys had it all and their families before them had
been given charters to own those lands by the British crown. Washington himself was trained in the
American colonial army, the British Colonial Army. It was the British who trained him as an officer. And
that’s when he was inducted into Freemasonry, was in the British, when he served the British as an officer.
That’s in his own histories, you know. So, this was a setup from the beginning. Not only that, when you go
into the passwords at the time for the French Illuminati, they would use a French word, which is also similar
to a Greek word for spirit. The spirit in Greek is nous, it’s n-o-u-s. And so, in French nous, also means,
translating it from the French to the English, and that was their password, was new, is US, “us”. So, I mean,
come on, this is a setup from the beginning. And then they put an Egyptian obelisk there for apotheosis, to
raise Washington to godhood. And no one asks, why is an Egyptian obelisk standing in a supposedly
Christian country? (Chuckle)
Jackie: I’ll tell you why, because a lot of people don’t understand it. The Washington Monument, a lot of
people don’t even, well, they know it’s an obelisk, but they don’t know what the Obelisk represents.
Alan: And it’s right over.
Jackie: It is ignorance. It isn’t stupidity. It is because we’re ignorant. You know, when I was first involved,
back there in 1990, late ’91, and beginning to wake up. And anyway, one of our networkers from, we had
the Council on Domestic Relations networking organization. He had been at the library. Now, this would
have been probably around ’93 maybe. And he called me up. Well, he spent almost a year at the library
researching, and just blowing him away, blowing the librarians away, and then he sent me huge manila
envelopes full of stuff he was pulling up. And he called one evening. And he started talking about the
Freemasons. Do you know how many Supreme Court Justices are Freemasons?
Alan: Oh, I know.
Jackie: But he went on and on. And I said, Paul, I hear what you’re saying. But, listen to this, Alan. I said,
what’s the significance of all this? In the whole scheme of things.
Alan: Yeah. (Laughter)
Jackie: I’m talking naivety. I’m talking lack of knowledge. That’s what I said to him.
Alan: Well, you always find the big obelisks are towering over a stretch of water, generally a rectangular.
Jackie: The reflecting pool.
Alan: And the reflecting pool. Because, what you’re seeing, the obelisk is the male phallus, which is also fire,
over the water. It’s over the female. That’s what it signifies. That the water is female in the Kabbala, you
see, which these guys all studied. And so, female is like, and Albert Pike said, it can only reflect the
godhood or the light of their husbands. Because, as the moon can only reflect the sun’s light. Then what
you’re seeing with the obelisk and the water is the female can only reflect the glory of the spirit of
Washington. It’s quite something, yeah.
Jackie: I see. We’re going to take a break in 60 seconds. I heard the tone. And that reminds me. You
know, that comes right out of the Old Testament, the New Testament with Paul, where he said that the
husband is the godhood of the family. I told you about my “friend” who bragged that God was no longer
present with his former wife and daughter, because he was gone. He didn’t say it. Maybe he believed it.
But if he believed it, he was gloating. Folks, we’ll be right back after this. We’re ready to take a break. So
just stay with us. This is nice, I can hear the music, and I heard the tone. So, we’ll be right back with you
folks.
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Jackie: You know, Alan, if you had, you’ve said it many times I think you said it tonight, maybe not, but,
they gave us all our heroes. And I was thinking about, well, when I heard the commercial for DVD for The
War of Northern Aggression. I thought back about, of course, what we were taught in history. And
Abraham Lincoln was my hero. And I remember in the fourth grade. I mean, I was so impressed. And I,
not because it was a required thing, I memorized the Gettysburg Address. That’s how much of a hero
Abraham Lincoln was to me. And I wanted to, for any new listeners that we might have, talking about the
Constitution, and it is true that to me, it was everything. In fact, well, it was everything. I mean as far as
our “freedom and liberty”, that’s one of the reasons, Alan, that I can so relate to listeners, to especially new
listeners. And it isn’t that I’m not an intelligent person. But I was so absorbed and believed, so trusting, in
everything that we were ever taught. And so, I looked back at myself, and how naive I was, and that’s why,
I know it’s a tough pill for people to swallow, when the truth begins to come, and it’s very overwhelming.
But after you settle into it, then there’s a feeling of gratefulness, of not anger, because, I had my anger too.
Not at you all the time, but sometimes. But anger, at all the lies we’ve been told. And then I stopped to
think about it, and then I thought, instead of being angry, be grateful, that you’re finally wading through,
and all of these lies are being dispelled. And one more thing I wanted to say. I made a note of it, talking
about the Constitution, talking about the “Revolutionary War”.
It was Ralph Boryszewski’s book, The Constitution That Never Was, Alan. When I got that book, somebody
sent it to me. I wouldn’t even read it. I looked at the book, and I said, this is just another book trashing our
Constitution. And, of course, now I know, and I have quoted especially the part in there, where he tells
about, you know, after the Constitution was framed, and we were framed, it took a couple of years before it
was totally ratified. And one of the things that Ralph pointed out is that the judicial section of the
Constitution was never completed. And they completed it with the first act that was passed by the Congress.
And when they did that, Alan, they did it in secret, and what they were doing was inviting the states to send
in their suggestions. That’s when the first ten articles of Amendment were added into it. So, everybody’s
eyes were on that ball, while they were writing a bill that was huge. I mean more text in it than the whole
Constitution. And it was passed, and our hero, George Washington signed it. And that’s how they did it, by
keeping people’s eyes off the ball, having them submit their suggestions for Amendments to it, before they
were going to ratify it.
Alan: Well, what they love to do, even today, is to pretend that they listen to the people. And, because
that’s the whole con that it’s based on, is that they pretend to listen to us. And then, of course, we scratch
our heads when they go off on some weird tangent. This happens over and over and over again. But when
you realize, see, you don’t get into politics by being a nice person. You get into politics by joining
Freemasonry to start with, and then you’re taught to go and join boards, voluntary boards, in you area. And
these boards always have a guy on top, who’s always been there, and he’s a selector. His job is to select
those amongst them who could be used to go up the ladder in politics. And when you get invited out by the
guy at the top of the board to the golf course, then you know you’re on a winning ticket. And that’s how the
whole thing works. I’ve seen it myself. And so, those who go into politics, they’ll do anything, and I mean
anything. They’ll join anything, as well, to get up there. They have psychopathic personalities to begin with.
Only a psychopath cannot blush in front of thousands of people when they’re accused of some of the things
they’re accused of. So, they live on pure ego, and they simply want to get to the top. They have no
conscience over what they do. And so, in this system, it’s really a psychopathic winner type system, which
you can see. Any time you tune into some so-called reality show, the Donald Trump show, you watch these
young executives all stab each other, trying to get above and get to lick the master’s boots there. And it’s
the one who’s the most cunning and ruthless and very clever about it, who gets the approval and gets to go
golfing with Donald Trump. That says it all. That is what our system is based on. It’s a piranha-like
psychopathic system. And that’s the type that go into politics. They’ll do anything, anything they’re told to
get up there. And that’s why they can lie so readily to the public. And they must join some form of
Masonry, if they’re not already born into it. They must join it.
Jackie: Well, you know what? That was something evidently I knew inherently, because my motto was, I’m
not interested in politics. Leave that to the politicians. And I told you that my uncle, Garland, was a state
senator in Michigan for twenty-six years. He came home from WWII missing a leg. And they talked him into
running, I guess, probably on sympathy. But Uncle Gar got in, and what I was told, he was head of the
appropriations committee. A very powerful position. But when they wanted to run him for US Congress,
well, first of all, let me go back. He found out that I didn’t vote. And he just went nuts. He said, it’s your
duty, it’s your responsibility. I said, Uncle Gar, I don’t know which butthead to vote for. I mean, they’re all
crooked. And of course, he was a senator. And I might be being naive here, Alan. I don’t think I am.
Because my Uncle Gar and Aunt Jode, lived in a very, just a regular little house. You know, with three
bedrooms, a living room, and a kitchen, not a dining room or anything. I remember one time when they
wanted to award him a gold watch at some banquet. And he said, thank you, but I can’t take it, because he
didn’t want to make it look like he’s getting bribes. And when they wanted to run him for Congress, and
they said he’d be a shoe-in, because he was very popular. Well, he was re-elected for twenty-six years. And
he told me he wouldn’t do it. And I asked him why. He said, I’m not going out there. He said, hell, he said
they come up and give you tips on what stocks to buy.
Alan: Yeah, that’s right.
Jackie: What stocks to purchase. And he said, and then they get you in their clutches. And so, I think there
might have been one honest politician. And never ever, I mean, they never had like a cottage somewhere,
or anything. I mean, they just lived like normal people. So, I think my Uncle Gar was honest.
Alan: Well, the thing is though, people who swear oaths to something they don’t even understand because
it’s a secret, tells you what people will…
Jackie: Uncle Gar wasn’t a Freemason. No, no.
Alan: Well, because, if he was a Freemason he would have taken all the little bribes and investments,
because the workman is worthy of his wages, as they say. It’s a payoff system all the way up. It’s a favor.
They showed you that in the Godfather. The Mafia is a branch of Freemasonry. It’s a branch of the Scottish
Rite of Freemasonry. And Albert Pike trained Giuseppe Mazzini, which is Joseph Mason in Italian, who took
over the World Lodge basically at the time, and he went over to Italy to create the Revolution in Italy. And
he founded on one side, Mazzini founded the World Revolutionary Party. His successor was Lenin, and they
called it the World Communist Party. Then they changed the name. But Mazzini also authorized the creation
of the Mafia. And the Mafia is a Masonic Lodge. Every side that seems to be fighting each other is actually
part of the same head.
Jackie: Even the Jesuits.
Alan: Yes.
Jackie: You know, we were talking about Tupper Saucy’s book. And when you read it, he made, I mean, I
didn’t go out and resource and check out his footnotes and his bibliography and that. But the way he made
it out, it would lead a person to believe that the Jesuits were responsible for all kinds of terrible things.
Another thing that happened, and yet once you get it, you realize that it doesn’t matter which one of them it
is, they’re all controlled at the top by a higher and hidden hand.
Alan: All of them. And I’m telling you another thing as well, for those who are into the New Age, you’ll find
that your gurus are also sworn members of the same lodges, the higher lodges. Now, Aleister Crowley, who
was sent out by the British Secret Service, to do what he did, to set up cults, etc, that’s who’s at the head.
Where would you go, amongst the secret societies except the top? The Secret Service of Britain created the
secret societies that you end up joining at the bottom. And Aleister Crowley went through all the different
rites of the English Rite, the Scottish Rite and so on. And when he went over to South America to take some
of the drugs, the peyote with the native tribe in South America. He said in his own book that he was
initiated into the higher degrees of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, from a shaman in South America.
They’re all part of the same thing. And guess who was pushing that in one of his books. It rhymes with
Pike. He went over to try to do the same thing. So here’s the same con game by the same people from the
same country doing the same con.
Jackie: Is there a reason….
Alan: Well, I like to rhyme things, yeah.
Jackie: I know, but some people might not know what you’re talking about.
Alan: Oh, they’ll figure it out. They’ll figure it out. Well, that’s in one of his books, how he went over there
too supposedly. The same road as Crowley took, but what he doesn’t mention is that the shaman is also a
Mason. When the British came into Canada, you’ll see this in some Masonic books. They have the picture of
Joseph Brant. Joseph Brant is a name they gave to an Indian Chief over the Five Nations in Ontario. And
they brought him over to Britain, and they gave him an English wife, a Masonic daughter, you see. Get the
gene pool going again in family lineages. And Joseph Brant came back to Canada.
Jackie: He was an Indian?
Alan: He was an Indian, full-blooded Indian chief. And he sent half of the tribes to fight for the American
side in the Revolution, and he used the other half to fight against them. There’s your typical what they do
all the time.
Jackie: Alan, why do we call them Indians?
Alan: Oh, well, we know the con game with the….
Jackie: Well, what I remember reading was that…
Alan: Yeah, somebody lost his way in a boat. (Laughter)
Jackie: The Indies and so they called the natives here Indians. I’m not talking PC, politically correct, but isn’t
more apt, appropriate, to really call them Native Americans?
Alan: Or just natives, because let’s be honest, when the big boys gave us countries, they gave us borders.
Jackie: The name, the politically correct name.
Alan: Yeah. And all down through the centuries, they make the borders, they draw lines in the sand, and
then they tax the people within to be on guard against those guys across that line there who are now your
enemy. And this is how they’ve played this game all down through the centuries. Now, Washington, you’ll
see in his main Masonic portrait there. He’s got a few of them. But you’ll see the beehive in the lower right
hand corner. I’ve got it in my first book. And now, he mentions the Illuminati. That’s recorded in history.
And he tries to make out that he knows that they’re there, but he doesn’t go any further. Of course he
knew, because he was a member of it, because that beehive, that beehive was the symbol of the Beenan
Orden, the German Branch of the Illuminati. That’s what they called themselves.
Jackie: That’s what the beehive was all about?
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And worker bees and all that?
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: I have allegedly from one of the museums the letter that George Washington wrote to his Brother
Mason, expressing to one of them, expressing his concern about the infiltration of Freemasonry here…
Alan: Of Illuminism, yeah.
Jackie: By the Illuminati.
Alan: Yeah, I know. What a joke. And of course, we also know that Jefferson was one himself. In fact,
that’s why he didn’t get in the first time, is because it was known that he was a member of it, after being
initiated into France. But Benjamin Franklin was too. Because when Franklin was over as ambassador to
France, during the Revolutionary War, and living like a king, you should see the stuff that he went through in
a week. Even the booze, it was quite something. Franklin himself became the Grand Master of the Grand
Orient Lodge of France. He was the top guy. And he initiated Voltaire into it.
Jackie: And especially reading the protocols, and they always take credit that every revolution that has ever
been thought was promulgated by them.
Alan: No, they don’t at all. That protocols is not who you think it is.
Jackie: I don’t care who it was.
Alan: It’s not who you think it is, because that was circulated in France in the 1800s.
Jackie: Okay. I don’t care who it was. Whoever wrote it.
Alan: They knew the agenda.
Jackie: They took credit for every revolution that had ever been fought.
Alan: Well, yeah, but even modern Masonry books do that too. The brand new ones that are put out by
Masonry, they do take credit for all the revolutionary wars.
Jackie: You know, the hidden hand we’ll call it, I guess. The point is, that was the first time that the thought
came into my mind, well, what about the American Revolution. That was our War of Independence. And
then I thought, well, why would we think that that was different than any of the others. So, I finally got to
it, because it kept gnawing at me. And I went and did, I got done with that chapter, and I just sat there,
Alan. And I just felt totally drained, totally exhausted emotionally, mentally, to find out everything I found
out when I went looking. It was really, in fact, I think I said that, of all, of everything that I’ve learned so
far, this has been about the toughest pill for me to swallow. Our War of Independence.
Alan: Well, it certainly made people dependent. That part is true. It’s made them dependent, so I guess
that part is true. Yeah. But we live in an eternal ongoing con game. Just like the nonsense we’re going
through right now, with the 9/11 deal. In the late 90s, Britain tried to pass in the House of Lords, they put a
bill through to pass a mandatory identification card. Nothing was happening at the time. The Soviet Union
was supposedly over, the Cold War was gone, and everybody was scratching their head as to why this was
happening. The guy, the attorney general for Canada was Allan Rock, who’s now the UN Ambassador for
Canada. He himself put through an omnibus crime bill, which is identical to the Patriot Bill. He put it
through in ’98. He knew this was coming up.
Jackie: Wow. Well, they had to do something to get it through, though.
Alan: Yeah, they knew it was coming up. They were getting all ready for it then. And that’s how things are
really run. It’s not the guy in the front, the President or Prime Minister. In Masonry, he’s never the boss.
You never put your boss as the guy who takes the heat, you see. That’s the job of a prime minister or
president. They take the heat for the show. But it’s the guy, number two is always the boss.
Jackie: Now, it’s like this move to impeach Bush.
Alan: I love this fruit talk. I love the talk about fruit. You im-peach them, and you can have a court of
appeal, which is an apple, you know. So, it’s quite funny all this Masonic chatter that they give to the public,
right in our faces, and we don’t catch on to it.
Jackie: Well, the thing I see is that so many of the people who are involved in this don’t realize that first of
all, he really wasn’t president anyway, not by votes. But every president that we’ve ever had was given to
us on a silver platter, and even the choices we had for president. Because they gave us, they let us actually
think we had choices. And then by getting rid of Bush that it’s going to make some difference in the whole
scheme of things.
Alan: Yeah, even though Kerry has already said that if he had gotten in, this same format and agenda in the
Middle East would continue just the same. Actually, he said he’d step it up.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. He would fight it differently.
Alan: Because it’s all on the books. It’s a Masonic must-be, they call it in Masonry. It’s a must-be. When
they make their plans they don’t fall back on them. And it doesn’t matter which group, which color. See this
is a color coding Masonic thing we’re looking at here. The Conservatives are always Blue for the Blue Lodge.
In every country, it’s the same thing. They call them Tories in Britain. Their opposition is Labour in Britain,
and they are Red. You see, that’s the Red Lodge. And then, of course, you have the Green Party, which is
the Green, the primal color in between. That’s the one set over to take over the world into the new era.
That’s what the Green Party is about. And of course, we know that Gorbachev, when he was brought over
to England by Maggie Thatcher, and given the grand tour, he was knighted into the Knights of Lazarus,
which is the Templar Cross, but it’s a Green Cross. And that’s the one he flies outside the Presidio.
Jackie: Yeah, what’s the name of his organization? Green Cross?
Alan: Oh, he actually has one about some global chatter. It’s one of many groups really. In fact, they run
many groups. And they’re funded again by the Rockefellers and the Ford and Carnegie Foundations.
Jackie: In the Presidio?
Alan: And you know, he was given that, that was actually passed and licensed for him to run that place
before he left as Premier of the Soviet Union. Who’s kidding who here?
Jackie: Before he left he made it well known that Communism is not dead, it just has another name.
Alan: What he said in fact, and there’s a great write-up in the Toronto Sun at the time about it, by the
foreign correspondent. And he did give the whole speech and he said, he says, don’t believe it when you
hear that it’s dead. He said, we’re simply moving into the next phase, and that ties right in with what they
found at the Reece Commission, that their job, the big foundations’ job in America, was to blend America
into the Soviet system into a seamless web. And that’s what we’re seeing is a new system with a Fascist
elite leadership at the top, with a Communistic-style bureaucracy running the people below. That is the
Third Way.
Jackie: Yes. There’s another book I want to recommend to our listeners. And it’s the one entitled Cogs in
the Wheel by Mikhail Heller. It just tells all about. He tells all about this in this book, Alan. And I think it
would probably have to be gotten through Abe books or one of the used book stores. And there was one
more thing. The movie, I got into this last Wednesday when you had to leave early. But I talked to myself
too long and wasn’t able to say it. Remember when you were saying how they entertain us, and they tell us
what they’re doing through entertainment. And the one thing I was referring to was what’s happening today
with, you know, this Mexican thing, and there was a movie that we watched. It probably is available at the
video stores. I think we watched it on HBO, and it was titled The Second American Civil War. And this
whole thing, and it was billed as a comedy. The whole thing was about immigration. And how the governor
of Oklahoma I think said no, we’re not taking them. And then they started to choose up sides. The
governor of Washington State took sides with Oklahoma. He was a Chinese man. And then I think, I found
out later that the governor of Washington then was actually a Chinese person. I might be wrong here. But
folks, it’s called The Second American Civil War. And it’s exactly what Alan was telling us. They billed it as a
comedy. I cried in that movie, Alan. Because I saw what was happening. And I realized that there would
be people who watched that movie, and if this happens in this country, they’re going to go, God, that’s just
like that funny movie we saw, remember that one.
Alan: It’s predictive programming.
Jackie: Yes. Predictive programming. We’re out of our hour. Alan, thank you for being here with us
tonight.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Get a good night’s sleep.
Alan: I will.
Jackie: And folks, Darren will be back with you on Monday and Tuesday. Alan and I will be back with you
next Wednesday, barring any unforeseen events. Thank you for being here, and good night. Good night,
Alan.
Alan: Good night.
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August 30th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is
Wednesday, of course, as it is whenever I am here filling in for Darren Weeks, who’s the actual host of the Sweet
Liberty broadcast now. And today is the 30th of August, in the year 2005 (actually 2006). I’m walking around looking
for a pencil. Excuse me if I seem a little distracted. Okay, I have my pen. And I want to say thank you again for
joining us tonight. I’ll start with our spiritual message here. And then we’ll bring up our guest, Alan Watt, who’s with
us this evening, once again. This is from a Course in Miracles from the text on pg. 168. “Nothing beyond yourself can
make you fearful or loving, because nothing is beyond you. Nothing beyond yourself can make you fearful or loving,
because nothing is beyond you.” And Alan Watt, thank you for being with us this evening.
Alan Watt: It’s a pleasure, yeah.
Jackie: Yes.
Alan: Yeah, you just gave me a picture of myself in the mirror in the morning.
Jackie: (Laughter) And that makes you fearful?
Alan: Oh, it’s what I see. I forget it’s me until I see. Who is that? Yeah.
Jackie: Have you ever gone up to a mirror and got real close and looked into your eyes.
Alan: I don’t think so.
Jackie: I did it one time. And I don’t know what made me do it, but I was there standing at the sink, and I leaned on the
sink, and I got real, real close, and I was looking into my eyes, and Alan, it was a very weird feeling. And I said, who
are you that I’m looking at. Who are you? Try it sometime.
Alan: It’s similar if you’re praying. If you look at a mirror, you’ll notice that you’re talking to yourself.
Jackie: Ah.
Alan: (Chuckle)
Jackie: Well, you know what? That’s not so far fetched, is it?
Alan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, everybody who does it is actually doing that too.
Jackie: Everybody who prays.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Yes. That’s what I said. That isn’t so farfetched.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Given that we, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us. The Kingdom of God is within us. We are one with our
Creator. And that makes sense, what you just said.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Is that how you meant it.
Alan: Yeah, I always give two or three meanings in a sentence.
Jackie: Well, give, okay, give us all three meanings, would you please.
Alan: Oh, no.
Jackie: Why, Alan? Why would you say that?
Alan: I’ll keep that for another show.
Jackie: No, no. No, no. Why would you?
Alan: Well, if the kingdom is in you, so is the Kingdom of Hell, you know.
Jackie: Well, what is Hell?
Alan: And that’s, in other words, it’s a decision what kind of life you’re going to make it for other people.
Jackie: Sure.
Alan: And people never, ever look at that point of it. They have the ability to create Heaven or Hell, right here. You
know. And generally even the ones that think they’re creating a heaven, because of the mass man of today, they’re
creating an actual hell.
Jackie: Well, yes. In other words, the more attached we become to the physical and the material world, the more hellish
it becomes, because the further we are in consciousness from our Creator.
Alan: Yeah. It’s also an inevitability in this system, that we’ve chosen, that’s been chosen for us, that we go along with
a path, it can only lead to where it’s going. It can’t go anywhere else. Because, I mean, before the Industrial
Revolution, even though people were mainly serfs and conquered, etc, there was still the remnants of tribal life, at least
for the people. They had histories, oral traditions. They had community. They didn’t have technology. With
technology or the Industrial Revolution came the era of mass man, the mass man. They stopped talking about
individuals and talked about the masses. And today we’re on that path of being part of the masses, where bureaucracies
are running our whole lives for us. And it’s getting worse.
Jackie: When you talk about that, the people, then, before the pre-industrial, there were the elite, there were the filthy
rich.
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: And the more well off. And then there were the people who were not just surviving, but living. I think about,
what I pictured in my mind when you said that, are people, as you said, who lived maybe in small villages, and they had
their ups and downs. They weren’t wealthy. They didn’t have, you know, huge homes and all of that. But they had
each other and they had family. It meant something to them.
Alan: Yeah. And they did have a rich culture, you know. A rich culture with all its traditions, its folklore, its histories.
It was all oral tradition, and it was all passed on. Today we are part of the mass market, you might say. And we’re
looked upon by the managers as being the masses. So, we’re not individuals any more. They don’t care about little you
or little me with our dreams and hopes and aspirations. We’re just so-and-so who got As or A-plusses all through their
school. It’s what they can do with you. How much they can tax from you. How they can use you. And hopefully
you’ll die off before you can collect your pension. That’s how they see you. And they format it like that too; as coldly
as that. You’re not a person anymore. You’re a psychological creature with instincts and drives, etc, etc, etc.
Jackie: For our listeners who may be new to the broadcast, and haven’t heard this or read it, on our website at
sweetliberty.org in the children’s section, there’s an article that says, it’s titled “Are Your Children Human Capital? To
confirm to the nth degree what you just said, what we are to them. And Human Capital is extremely valuable to them.
The woman who wrote the article, Cindy Weatherly, was looking up the word assessment, you know, for assessment
tests, and she couldn’t find any, any definition in all of her educational material, so she went to the dictionary, and
assessment means to assess somebody for their future value.
Alan: That’s right. In fact, that all came out with Karl Marx and the gang around him. It wasn’t just Karl Marx. He
was a front man for a coterie, for a whole bunch of people. And they talked about every man will get rewarded
according to his means. So, in other words, even then they categorized you as to your class. Communism was actually
a class, very class conscious. In fact, it was a scientific definition you might say for the first time of creating a new type
of class structure, different from the old class structure, and codifying it into law with intelligentsia and scientific and all
the workers beneath them. And, so you were to get rewarded according to your means. In other words, if you belonged
to a certain class, they would decide how much you should get paid, how much you would need, you see.
Jackie: How much you would need.
Alan: Uh, huh. According to their assessment.
Jackie: But you would be paid according to your class, according to, right, their assessment of your needs. So, in other
words, if somebody else was in a position similar to yours, but they were in a higher class, their pay would have been
higher.
Alan: Yes.
Jackie: Uh, huh.
Alan: And when you really see that Communism was given by the same banking boys that already controlled the
capitalism, they were actually making it a more efficient system for themselves by making this a true system under a
science, a supposed science, where they could officially stamp you in a class structure. That’s what it was, yeah. So,
you’d have to go so far back before money even came across the seas, etc, and throughout Europe, to get a true idea of
what real life was, because we don’t know what it was anymore. We don’t know how people lived naturally at one
time. We just don’t know any more. We know some things before the Normans came through. The Normans brought
the moneyed system and the religious system that backed it. They brought it into Europe, and usury and all the rest of
it, the debt system. And even though they brought it in, in the 11th century, into Britain, it had already been known for
thousands of years.
Jackie: What did they have before that, Alan?
Alan: Well, the people generally bartered.
Jackie: Okay.
Alan: And the tribes themselves, they grew their own stuff, and they had their own cattle, etc. So, that was a real
communism. That was communal living.
Jackie: True, true communal living.
Alan: It wasn’t Marxist, it wasn’t Leninist, or any of these -ists that came along eventually. It was survival for the
whole tribe. And no one went hungry. And they didn’t, like the Eskimos, they didn’t put the elderly out on an ice float
to die, you know.
Jackie: Oh, they didn’t put you out on an ice float to die.
Alan: Yeah. But everybody, because the older people were respected for their wisdom. Today in this valued system,
this scientifically created valued system, when your production ends, you become just a consumer. And I’ve talked
about before the United Nations has already classified a good citizen of the world to be a producer-consumer. So, when
you just become a consumer, you don’t, you’re a second-class citizen. You’re ready for the scrap heap.
Jackie: Yes, we have talked about this before. And I want to mention this to our listeners, who’ve heard this. You have
mentioned this before, that it seems to be, generally, that a person, many person have to hear something six, seven, eight
times before it suddenly gels with them.
Alan: Eight times. They’ve done studies, yeah.
Jackie: Eight times.
Alan: That’s taught in mass marketing, apparently now, in university. They know all of this stuff. So, that’s just the
truth of it. As we race along in this agenda, and it is a plan. It’s not just evolving haphazardly. It’s always laid out in
advance. They know where they’re taking us, and they’ve given us enough authors to verify it, from their own group,
that is. They said they would take us to a time when the changes would be so quick, scientific changes and so on, which
also create cultural changes, that the people themselves will say, “Stop. We’ve had enough. We can’t keep up with the
changes.”
Jackie: Really?
Alan: Yeah. H.G. Wells wrote about it.
Jackie: What’s going to happen when they say, stop, we can’t keep up with the changes?
Alan: Well, then he went off on his own little spin.
Jackie: Yeah, what is the plan?
Alan: Yeah, well, his little spin that they would go off to the stars, basically, the crème-de-la crème, and you’d have to
go into his non-fiction books of H.G. Wells, his non-fiction books to realize that they would simply do away with the
ones who were useless. And, if you go into Hinduism, which is what’s taught today, and has been for donkey’s years,
under the term, the New Age, which was a Masonic creation, but it’s basic Hinduism, when you go from one age to the
next age, it’s interesting to note that those who are unable to make the leap, must not be allowed through.
Jackie: Through what?
Alan: Through life, into the next age. Yeah.
Jackie: You mean if there’s any, any individual that speaks out and doesn’t, and isn’t.
Alan: Conforming.
Jackie: Okay, conforming. Okay. And not predictable.
Alan: That’s basic Theosophy, which is Hinduism. And that’s what, again, is taught in the meditation classes at the
United Nations, at the mediation room, that Rockefeller goes to.
Jackie: What. This is taught?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Would you. Okay. You say that it’s taught. Are they actually saying this in words or is it in code that they’re
saying it, Alan?
Alan: I would say to you, I would say to you the way they say it.
Jackie: Okay, do.
Alan: Life is like waves. Generations are like waves. And as they go towards the new, or the center, as you might say,
from the outside back to the center, then eventually those that were the old waves fail to reach it, and to be new, they
cannot be allowed across. That’s the sort of way they would couch it. I’m actually being a bit more forward than they
would. But their higher initiates eventually get the message. Because, see, Hinduism itself is based on evolution.
That’s where Darwin’s theory came from. He was preaching the Masonic doctrine, which had always been taught in the
Mystery Schools, of evolution.
Jackie: Are you saying evolution of the hu-man? Or all the stuff?
Alan: All the stuff about the slime to the water creature to the land, its pure Hinduism.
Jackie: Gotcha.
Alan: Yeah, pure Hinduism.
Jackie: Because, there is a form of evolution, evidently or something Alan, when you look at the change, let’s say the
animals, let’s say way back when the horses were really tiny little things, and today the horses are big. I know there’s
those little midget horses or whatever, but you know the mountain lions were probably four times as big as the ones
today.
Alan: Yeah. But they’re different species. You see, there were many, many species of creatures, including horses, all
different sizes. It isn’t that the small ones got big. It’s that the small ones died off.
Jackie: Okay, in other words, in the history that is given us, they, I don’t recall them ever showing bones or telling about
horses that were really tiny and horses that were the same size today. What I recall is them using like a graph and
showing.
Alan: And that’s the big lie of evolution. They have nothing to back it with, to be honest. And even Darwin was
challenged on that.
Jackie: So, in other words, that was lies by omission. They never showed that there were different species of horses.
Alan: It’s only fairly recently that they’ve started to admit, well, there was different kinds. There was ape-men, etc.
They said there was different types of humans and apes and chimpanzees and monkeys all living at the same time, and
the other species died off. That’s what they’re now teaching over the last, oh, quite a few years.
Jackie: Do you, let me ask you this, here, at least your thoughts on it, where they talk about the missing link.
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Okay, now, they’re not, this missing link isn’t between ape and man, but it’s between a form of mankind and
another that was more erect and had voice and etc, and that they were living here at the same time. Is that true?
Alan: Yeah. That’s what they’re starting to admit now, because, the more they uncover, they’re finding the skeletons
that are just the same as ours, at the same time period as they had the ones that they were claiming. And remember most
of the stuff they told us before with Piltdown Man, etc, that was taught as law in schools was all a fraud. It’s all
exposed now. They used a pig’s jaw and stuck it on a gorilla’s head. And that was taught as fact. And people got
degrees based on thesis, etc, on that nonsense. So, they’ve been liars from the beginning, because there’s a Masonic
doctrine behind this, which they must stick to.
Jackie: You know the question then that just blasts into my mind. Where did all these different species come from,
Alan?
Alan: Yeah, well that’s not so much, where did they come from, where’s it going?
Jackie: No, to me, it’s where did it come from. If there were several species of man, and there are different colors of
man, different nationalities if you would of man, where did they all come from? You know, that’s never been explained
to me, not in anything I’ve ever read.
Alan: No, because they can’t.
Jackie: Well, what is your, what are your?
Alan: Well, at least they won’t.
Jackie: Well, what are your thoughts on it, Alan?
Alan: That’s hours and hours and hours of stuff. You often ask me a question and I can’t give you a drive through
answer.
Jackie: A drive through answer.
Alan: Yeah. It would take so much.
Jackie: Do you know how many times I’ve asked this question to you on air?
Alan: I know, but to give a proper answer, you’d have to give a whole talk on, more than one talk, in fact, a lot of talks.
And that’s what I’m going to do on the next series of discs I put out, because it’s too much to just.
Jackie: But nobody’s there to question you.
Alan: It doesn’t matter. The thing is, you’re asking a question which I would be failing people if I gave them a drive
through answer. You have to educate people up to a state before they can understand what you’re about to say, on
certain things.
Jackie: Alan, you’re talking to a listening audience, many of them that have been listening to you for eight years, minus
two.
Alan: Yeah, but you’re asking a question, Jackie, that I’d have to go into whole different areas, of archeology, anatomy,
a whole bunch of things, and what’s been discovered, the debates they’ve had over the last three centuries and so on,
and so on, and so on. It’s not a snappy answer, because, if I did, I might mislead people. I mean, that’s a profound
question, where did we come from?
Jackie: Well, you do recall me asking this, don’t you?
Alan: I know, but the thing is, it’s too snappy an answer to do justice to the people.
Jackie: I know, but this isn’t a new question in my mind.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: And it isn’t a new question I posed.
Alan: But the main thing is, what we are doing is looking at where we are going, because we know where we’re going.
Jackie: Maybe if we knew where the hell we came from, we’d understand better where we’re going?
Alan: Um. Whatever.
Jackie: Okay.
Alan: Whatever. But, the fact is, as I say, in the religion, under many different guises, you can go back to India, you’ll
find that they talk about ages, just time spans, so that people could understand what time spans they’re talking about.
They call them ages. So, they sort them into categories of time. And they talk about the stages of man and the types of
man that they go through. Now, we also find that in the Greeks, who talk about the different ages of man and stages of
man, right up through the Iron Man, and so on, Bronze, Gold, Iron, etc. These are whole religions that you have to take
separately at a time. But they all have that in common. They talk about ages.
Jackie: Okay, you know, no, I guess I didn’t. I was thinking that, for example, they say, we’re moving into the Age of
Aquarius, that in that astrological, in order to, that each astrological sign in 20 some hundred years, and so, it takes
thirty.
Alan: That’s one. You see, that’s one version, and Plato also gave it that same definition or time period, of about
twenty-five and a half thousand years. And sometimes they’ll call the Platonic year, after Plato. And other times they’ll
call it the Grand Circle of the Zodiac. As opposed to the annual one.
Jackie: Okay. And that isn’t what they refer to though when they’re talking about ages?
Alan: It’s much more. On one level it is. It’s to do with the types of society, or the changes society would go through in
every age, where a particular constellation dominates for a period of about two thousand odd years, you see. And that’s
why Jesus was the sign of the Fish.
Jackie: Right, Pisces.
Alan: And he was the fisherman of men. And then we go into the Age of Aquarius, and Aquarius is a new type of, even
though it’s a water sign, which is female, it’s a male. And the reason for it, being, a new type of man is to be created for
Aquarius. And when there’s no conflict between male and female, then, they’ll have completely won the battle of all
conflicts.
Jackie: And you’re talking about their desire to create a race of hermaphrodites.
Alan: That’s right. For slaves, that is. Not for themselves. Because Charles Galton Darwin and others have mentioned
that the elite themselves wouldn’t change themselves. But they would change the…
Jackie: Oh, they’d remain male and female genders.
Alan: Pardon?
Jackie: Well, like in their class, their elite class, they would still have males and females, not hermaphrodites.
Alan: Yeah, because it’s not just a hermaphrodite. It will be, you know, like a couple of guys holding hands. Or
whatever they are. It’s to be a specially, you’ll be bred specifically, like Brave New World, like Huxley’s Brave New
World, you will be bred for the task they have designed you for.
Jackie: Decanted.
Alan: That’s right. You’ll be brought into the world, with that task, and just like an ant or a bee is programmed, it’s in
its genes, then you would be programmed for the task that you do. And you wouldn’t be born unless they had a task for
you to fulfill. This is the age of statistics we’re living in, where everything is numbered, counted, weighed, balanced,
function, etc. This is where it’s going.
Jackie: If, they’re successful. You know what I was just thinking. Their dream is our nightmare.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: But as you’ve said, many times before, they’ve gotten very.
(Noise interference)
Jackie: Hello?
Alan: Hello?
Jackie: Yeah.
Alan: Yeah. What’s happening?
Jackie: I haven’t the foggiest idea. I haven’t moved.
Alan: I heard beeps and things.
Jackie: Oh, I heard a funny buzz. What I was going to say is that you have said many times before, they’ve been very,
very close, and as we see, they’ve never been successful. If they were, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And so, therefore, what they dream about, that would be a nightmare for us, is illusion for them. It’s their own
illusion.
Alan: I wouldn’t say so. I wouldn’t say because it hasn’t been successful in the past that it could not be in the future.
That truly is up to a different thing altogether.
Jackie: Why? Hell, this is going on for millennia, you said.
Alan: It doesn’t matter. That’s why, and people have asked me this, why on earth does it take to go from one phase to
the next? I mean, look how long it took them to adjust society from, say an agricultural status, before the Industrial
Revolution, even longer in the US, they already had industrialized the main cities in Europe, but literally, within a
matter of ten years, they’d emptied all the people from the country into the cities to work in their industrial age. And
eventually they bring in a form of Socialism. Socialism again is the statistics the weighing, the functions, the book
keeping, everybody is tabbed an monitored etc, for a function, a purpose, as part of the mass. And they’ve been so
meticulous and careful, even dishing out the technology they dish out. Everything they give to us is obsolete. The
latest, whatever they give us is absolutely obsolete. Do you remember the old comedies, called Get Smart?
Jackie: Well, yes. I saw it a couple of times.
Alan: Well, back then, I think they did them in the 60s, but they gave us the reruns in Britain in the 70s. You saw the
iris scan in a comedy show. They showed you the palmprint, as you’d get through a door in comedy shows. They
showed you watches with the TV. They showed you the cell phones, the spies had in a comedy show. They showed
you solid-state circuitry, before we’d even heard the term in comedy shows. Whatever they give us is actually obsolete.
And it’s not for our benefit; it’s for their system to make it more, more secure for themselves. They couldn’t even do
this without the computer. They couldn’t get to where they want to go to, without the computer.
Jackie: How do you know they didn’t’ have computers?
Alan: I didn’t say they didn’t.
Jackie: Oh, okay. Well, they didn’t make it before.
Alan: They gave us the computer to make it easier for them.
Jackie: Say again.
Alan: They gave us the computer to make it easier for them.
Jackie: Okay. But, what I’m saying is in ancient times, the civilizations, at least we’ve read or been told, that there were
very highly advanced civilizations. And you talk about Sumer. Of course, then they had tablets they were writing on, I
guess, but maybe before Sumer, Alan, maybe in Atlantis, that there were civilizations that had the technology.
Alan: It’s possibly, but they certainly had computers for a long, long time. Yeah. And not the huge bulky things they
show us in the old movies.
Jackie: Oh really, the ones with the just little boards.
Alan: And the little tapes and all that in the walls. And you know the first one for the United States military was called
CAIN. Cain?
Jackie: Really?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: And what does that signify?
Alan: The priest. The priesthood.
Jackie: The priesthood. Oh, shoot. Okay, look. We’re going to take about a three-minute break. And we’ll pick it up
here. CAIN, that computer, the priesthood. Okay. Because CAIN is in the Old Testament is allegedly a person. Okay,
we’ll be right back, folks, with Alan Watt, stay with us.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back. Alan.
Alan: Yes.
Jackie: Okay. You mentioned that the first military computer was called CAIN, Cain. And when I asked you, what
does that mean to them, you said, it’s the priest, the priesthood.
Alan: Yeah, I think they gave it the term through Computer Assisted Intelligence.
Jackie: Oh, sure, but.
Alan: But yeah.
Jackie: It was their own little cute little code.
Alan: And that relates to the priesthood.
Alan: Well, Cain, again, this allegory of Cain was the one that was born, supposedly, being born of wisdom,
intelligence, as opposed to the profane people around. That’s what it means, because the whole Masonic structure, you
might say it’s a form of intellectual racism. It’s an elitist structure. And they have plenty of dodos at the bottom
themselves, and even Albert Pike said that. The low Masons are no different than the profane themselves. They just
use them.
Jackie: He called it the outer portico, didn’t he?
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And they’re, it’s intended that they will believe that they know what’s happening, or that they’re given the truth.
Alan: Yeah. And yet, the ones up at the 32nd degree, and it’s no big deal getting up to the 32nd degree. Not these days.
They just pay their way up, and then they all talk about the profane, the profane, the profane, as though they knew it all.
But they know very little, really. Because that’s’ not the high levels either. That’s just the bottom.
Jackie: Do 32nd degree Masons look down on others in their own minds?
Alan: Yeah, some of them have told me that. Because they actually do sit and sort of boast about how smart they all
are, compared to the rest of them.
Jackie: Smart or knowledgeable?
Alan: Mm, hmm.
Jackie: Do they say smart or knowledgeable?
Alan: Knowledgeable. Perfected, you know. Because, it’s called the Rite of Perfection, remember. They believe
they’ve been perfected, because they’ve learned virtue, yeah.
Jackie: They learned virtue. What are they taught about virtue, Alan?
Alan: Well, according to them, you see, this is the old nobility terminology, and if you ever want to have a good
definition of it, you should see the movie called Rob Roy.
Jackie: Rob Roy.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: I’ve got that on tape, and I’ve never watched it.
Alan: Okay, because, Rob Roy, you find when Rob Roy Macgregor goes to see the Lord of the land. The Lord makes a
little quip at him. He says, my goodness, Roy, you’d almost think you were, meaning part of the nobility, like royal
blood. But he said, oh, of course, that’s impossible. In other words, the defining line was so obvious in those days to
them. You were either a member of the commoners or you were a member of the noble blood. So you were either
profane or elite, you see, and wise. And of course, only the nobility, they claimed, could have virtue, you see.
Jackie: But what is their definition of virtue? Because I’m thinking of a particular 32nd degree Mason that I knew.
Well, I’m going to tell you something, there was no virtue in this individual.
Alan: Yeah, well.
Jackie: So, what is, what are they given as the definition of virtue.
Alan: It is what they call the noble qualities of honor, you might say. Honor and so on. If you look up the virtues, what
the virtues are, there are categories of them. And trust worthiness, honor, you honor your word. You don’t give it
loosely. You follow up what you promise. You also honor your oaths, that’s a big thing.
Jackie: And the oaths to a Masonic.
Alan: Uh, huh. So, all of that is to do with their virtue. So, they pay their money, they get drunk an awful lot, and
they’re told to repeat after me for their degrees and then they forget it all, because they can’t remember what they went
through in the first place, it goes so fast. So, suddenly they’ve become enlightened, and suddenly they’re very virtuous.
Jackie: Uh, huh.
Alan: But that’s the low end of the, because above that you have the Noble Orders you see.
Jackie: When, you remember, well, maybe you don’t, I do, the first phone call that we ever had together?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: You had called me after a broadcast one evening. And I asked you, because, you know, you started talking, and
oh, my God, I found myself pressing the phone up against my ear until it was almost going through my head. And
suddenly, I said, excuse me, why are we having this conversation? And when you didn’t answer, I said, well, why did
you call me? And when you said, well, I’ve been listening, I see, that, you know, that you’ve almost got it, you said, but
not quite. And when I asked you what not quite was, you said, oh, I couldn’t tell you. It’s too awful. And when I got
like, a little indignant and said, wait a minute, if you’ve been listening to me, the truth, no matter how awful it is, I want
it. And what you said to me, is you said, well, I’ll just give you a clue, it’s all about the blood. And you didn’t go any
further. And I don’t think I ever asked you actually to explain. And the two things in my mind, what you were alluding
to were the bloodlines and the blood sacrifices.
Alan: That’s right. Bloodlines, blood sacrifices, a religion based on that. You always find that they have a blood
sacrifice before the major wars, or before they want a special event, or even as a token, before they go the next step for a
war. Whether it’s bringing down towers with people in it, or whatever else. There’s always a sacrifice required.
Jackie: Like Pearl Harbor?
Alan: Yeah, always, uh-huh.
Jackie: Well, then the war itself is an ongoing sacrifice of blood.
Alan: The blood that was spilt in wars, I mean literally you’re talking about billions of gallons over the 20th century.
Incredible, incredible you know. And yet they keep telling us that there’s going to be peace. It’s interesting that they
wrote in the old plan, the old plan called Revelations, that by peace he would destroy many. You see? By peace, he
would destroy many. And we’re seeing it today, under the auspices. We’re heading towards peace with a New World
Order, as they slaughter more and more people. You know.
Jackie: I told you that Brian Merchant, the man that I heard later, was the head of the National Security Council. When
I asked, he said that the President has the war-making powers; he’s the Commander in Chief. And I said, no, only if
he’s called into the service of the US, and that would be an act of Congress. And only Congress can declare war. And
Brian Merchant said to me, however, under international law, peacekeeping is not defined as war. Right? That’s it.
Alan: Yeah. That’s right. And that was what George Orwell talked about, the use of terminology to completely alter
your perception of an event. And so we call them peacekeepers. Now, it looks like a soldier to me, with his grenades in
his belt and his big machine gun, and his boots, and all the rest of his insignia. A soldier is a soldier is a soldier, no
matter what other title you want to call him. And our perceptions are altered through propaganda, all the time, from the
top. All our countries get the same stuff of how they’re over there to create peace. Now, the Romans invaded most of
Europe, brought in the money system, even then with them. Luckily, it died out after they left for a while, until the
Normans brought it back, but the Romans came in, made everybody use the money system, then they started taxing it
back as labor, you see. This is what this is all just based on, is usury, taxation, and labor.
Jackie: And when you talk about the Normans bringing in money, I have to go back to the Old Testament, and the story
of Joseph in Egypt, and after the famine came, and the people had given all their grain, to them to store, so they came
when the famine came. And he said, okay, you can have it, but you have to buy it. But it said, in that Old Testament,
that allegedly was written thousands of years ago, that he said, okay, the people paid for the grain that they had grown,
and then they said, Joseph took the money and took it to the pharaoh, and you see that he created a depression, because
the money supply dried up. But, they literally said, the next time they came, they said the money failed.
Alan: We’ll take your land the next time.
Jackie: I know, but they used the word money then. What were they using for money then, Alan?
Alan: Well, it wasn’t. You see, that’s an allegorical fable.
Jackie: About what’s going on today.
Alan: No, it’s meant to conceal a real priesthood that was there for thousands of years before. Because, you see, at one
time, all peoples in the Middle East and all peoples, all cultures, in fact, it happened all over Europe, you’d have a
granary for the people, because you’d have to get through a winter, especially in Europe, and you had to get through the
season, and it was dished out gradually as the winter went on. And the rest was actually given out by the headman, the
chief at one point, for your growing, you see. And every person was given a portion, an equal portion to grow. Well, in
the Middle East, the priests caught on to the fact that they could give out so much grain at so much percentage on return
value. So, we’ll give you so much pounds of seed, or whatever, and you bring us so much corn back or whatever else
they were growing. And so, they were all using an interest scheme before they used coin. And that began in the Middle
East, that scam. And once they got the coin in, and that was about 800BC, that scam really took off. And then they
increased the tithing up to ten percent. So, as they gave you so much seed as well, they asked for the same amount back
in actual grain plus ten percent. Then it kept going up. This is the oldest dodge in the book. The oldest.
Jackie: But they called it money in the Old Testament.
Alan: They also called it different terms, which is, you see, there’s so much allegory that’s only explained to very high
Freemasons. Even the term seed doesn’t necessarily mean people or your offspring.
Jackie: Say again.
Alan: Even the term seed does not necessarily mean your offspring. Even that has double meanings.
Jackie: Well, what would the other meaning be, besides offspring.
Alan: Okay. They used to give sacrifices to say, Moloch, was one name. Some of the called it Milcum, which in the
West they called it Malcolm. And the hands were outstretched, it was a burning fire, it was a brazen fire. You throw
much of your yield into that fire. That was putting the seed through the fire, they called it. That was one version of it.
And yet, they’ve also dug up the Phoenician version, where they actually did burn babies, and they’ve found urns,
where those little charred remains are. So, there’s always at least two or three versions of the same thing in all of these
religions. And every religion has the same inner religion or priesthood within it, at all times.
Jackie: And somebody told me that that meant that these people that were dancing around the fire that it was actually
sperm, their seed.
Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: Okay, you never heard that. Okay.
Alan: No. But they certainly had, there’s so many allegories buried within religion, because religion was as old as can
be, of all kinds. And the con men had to always have understood how to get people to work for them, have used
religion to guide and steer, control and profit from the masses. And religion has been the perfect institution up until
now. And even now, that’s why Gorbachev said, we’re creating a new religion for the world, based on Earth Worship.
But he doesn’t mean bowing down to the Earth. You’ll have a bureaucracy, a new priesthood that will make you live
according to the terms that they claim is good for the Earth, you see. Which is X amount of children, if any at all. And
no doubt, down the road it will be like Logan’s Run, where the older ones are just killed off.
Jackie: Yes. Or like The Giver, in the book, with the children. For our listeners, folks, for those of you who have
children, who are in the public government indoctrination centers we once called schools, if you haven’t heard of the
book, The Giver, your child will probably read it, and it would be very, very important for you to get the book. You can
get it in the bookstores. It was given a prize, a literary prize. It’s a child’s version of Nineteen Eighty-Four, only it’s so
ugly that it’s pathetic. And it would be good if you could read that book with your child, to help them through it.
Because they, for the most part, they’re getting it in the schools. It’s called The Giver. And there’s one particular
segment in that book, in this community, the story revolves around, that no two people could have the same name or be
alike. When twins were born, the twin that was the lightest got sent elsewhere. And elsewhere, they described the
procedure, fifth graders, this is recommended for fifth grade reading. What are they nine years old in the fifth grade,
Alan? Where, in the book, the Caretaker, the Nurturer, in the Nursery, took the baby that was going to be sent
elsewhere, and very descriptively in the book, went to the cupboard and got a needle, which the young boy who was
watching thought he was going to get “vaccinated”, he stuck the needle in the soft spot of the baby’s head and the baby
quivered and went limp, he was dead, and he was thrown down a garbage shoot. I’m sorry to draw us away from that
Alan, but that came to my mind. And it’s really important for our listeners who have children to understand that their
children are being fed all of this to inure them to, what is another word I’m trying to.
Alan: Desensitize.
Jackie: Thank you, desensitize them.
Alan: And the same with all the movies being brought up, and all the video games, they’ve been brought up with, where
you just go, kill, kill, kill to the end of the game, and that’s all it’s about really. So, sure. Our mind, you might say, our
culture, our thoughts, are given to us, trained into us, scientifically, as Bertrand Russell talked about. And he should
know, since he helped design it. And they’ve done it. They’ve been very, very successful. You can see it today.
Maurice Strong, at the last Earth Summit that he had, and he only read the Summit, it was made up by Rockefeller.
That’s who wrote it up. Maurice Strong…
Jackie: You know for sure that Rockefeller wrote it.
Alan: Yeah. And Maurice Strong said, we have to destroy what’s left of the last vestiges of the family unite. That’s the
only thing standing in the way of government, which will be then confronting the individual, straight to the individual,
nobody in between. Government to individual. You won’t have any friends to stand up for you, your family to stand up
or help you. If you notice, that was actually done at the Louisiana when the hurricane came in. They didn’t allow
people to go and help their neighbors. Only the government was allowed to do that. So, if your neighbor was on a roof,
and they fell in and they were drowning, you weren’t allowed to go in and help them.
Jackie: There was a man from Florida, I believe, and he might have been a National Guard. He rescued some people.
And they were going to, I don’t know, whatever fine or punishment that he was going to get, because he stepped out of
his designated role. He wasn’t there to do that. He was there to keep, you know, the peace, so to speak.
Alan: Follow the rules.
Jackie: This was in a newspaper article. He was called down for rescuing, saving, the lives of a couple of people.
Alan: For being human, he was going to be punished.
Jackie: For being human, he was going to be punished.
Alan: They don’t want human emotions, because that can work two ways. People can stand up for people if they’re
being picked on or persecuted. But when there’s no one to stand by you, especially any family, then it’s government
straight to you. That’s what happened in the Soviet system, where they used to come in. And they would call the whole
street out, you know, under their laws, when they were going to arrest somebody in an apartment.
Jackie: And let people see the arrest.
Alan: Let them see it. And then they would. Solzhenitsyn talked about it. He says, we should never have allowed this
to begin. He says, when they first came, these two or three men with their pistols and so on, he says, we should have
grabbed axes and killed them on the spot. He said, because once it starts, he says, you become used to it so quickly you
want to just turn away.
Jackie: You’re only glad it wasn’t you.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: That’s what they do.
Alan: And that’s, that’s’ when you’re going into a state, and abusive state, of dejection. That’s where you become, you
feel worthless, hopeless. It’s meant to make you feel hopeless as well, and to make you completely comply with every
ridiculous law that comes along.
Jackie: I want to go back to what you said about this man being punished because he was being human. The thought
that occurred to me is that this is where the choices come in every single time. You know, we talk about this a lot. The
choices that we make. Every choice that we make, every moment of every day, makes all the difference in the world.
And somebody who would say, oh, I’d like to save those people, but geez, I’m going to get in trouble. They’re lost,
aren’t they Alan? They’re already lost souls.
Alan: They’re lost. There’s also the technique, which they wrote about in the 1800s, that they would create, in the time
of the mass man, where everyone was dependent on money to survive and a job, especially with government or armies
or police forces, you would hear the term, I was just doing my job. How many times has that been said? I was just
doing my job.
Jackie: Or somebody who stays in a job that they know is.
Alan: Wrong.
Jackie: Very wrong. And they say, well, I have a family to feed. Many times, the people who stay in that job to “feed
their family”, basically what’s behind that is all the toys and whistles.
Alan: They think its security, yeah.
Jackie: Well, that they want, and they have to have this “high-paying job” or this level of income, in order to live the
way they want.
Alan: And therefore they can rationalize anything they do.
Jackie: Yes. And you know what it does come down to, is that they’re no longer living, they’re just surviving.
Alan: Yeah, and that’s what I mean, we talked about once before that people kind of sense, they kind of sense they can
give up spirit, you can give it up, you know. Because there are decisions you make all through your life that go on
beyond just this. And when you decide to profit at someone else’s expense and towards their dismay and they’re
discomfort or their death, even, and use that excuse, oh, I was just doing my job. We’ll you’ve just cut yourself off
from everything else from then on. In fact, you don’t even qualify as a human any more. You’re a robot.
Jackie: Before we end this broadcast, I want you to tell our listeners about the DVD that you have ready to go now. It
has been ready. And there was a…
Alan: A glitch.
Jackie: Thank you. Yeah, in the formatting. I received my disc, my DVD, and it works beautifully. And my sis and I
sat and watched it. Very, very interesting, Alan. Well, once again, and you know, I’m not saying this, just say, oh,
well, my sis isn’t aware or anything, but you were in some very, extremely heavy conversation, and I thought, well,
maybe she wouldn’t be interested in this. She was totally engrossed in the whole thing. Not that I, because my sis and
I, of course, we’ve talked about a lot of things, so she’s not unaware, but she’s never heard the conversations, these
types of conversations that you got into, in the DVD, and laid it out, and she found it extremely fascinating and
enlightening to coin a phrase.
Alan: Okay.
Jackie: And, so tell our listeners about it.
Alan: Yeah, it’s different from the usual. I don’t go into just all of the details of what’s happening to you today, and
what’s going to be done to you tomorrow. I go into a much deeper philosophy, to show you where it’s come from down
through the ages, up to the present time. And it’s meant for the thinkers, not the reactionaries. You think before you do
any reaction, hopefully. And this goes much deeper, in a sense, into the occult as well, and the religion behind all of
this, which is in all religions at the top. And it takes you where they want us to go. So, it’s, and it’s different. It’s not
boring. It’s not a boring, it’s broken up with music and stuff, so, it’s, and the music matches the topics, so, enjoy it too.
Jackie: Thank you. Okay. How can they get it?
Alan: Look into the website, it’s .com. And you’ll see it listed there. And these work well, these discs.
Jackie: And it’s titled, Reality Check Part 2.
Alan: Wisdom, Esoterica, and Time.
Jackie: Okay, and the address is there, and how to order it, making sure that it’s an international postal money order etc.
Alan: It’s the first in the Esoteric line. And it’s worthwhile watching. This type of thing hasn’t really been done in this
type of way before.
Jackie: Yeah, and there were some of the, oh, what am I trying to say, not the Masonic symbols but the words that you
gave us the meanings of. And I still didn’t understand it. And I’d like to make a note of it and ask you, for me, and
maybe any other listener who didn’t quite get that. Because, some of this goes over my head, Alan.
Alan: Well, do it off the air, because it will spoil it for the ones who haven’t seen it yet.
Jackie: Oh, okay.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Okay. Well, I’ll have to watch it again and write it down.
Alan: Yeah, oh, you’ll get it. Yeah.
Jackie: Okay. Well, we are out of our hour. And we’ll be back next Wednesday night, folks. And do be sure to tune in
to Sweet Liberty, Monday and Tuesday for Darren Weeks. Darren has an excellent broadcast, steeped in
documentation, and his own commentaries. And Darren is the Webmaster extraordinaire of the sweetliberty.org
website. We’ll see you later. Thank you.
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February 14th, 2006
Alan Watt (Solo) on
“Sweet Liberty”
Alan Watt: Hello, this is Alan Watt here, standing in for Darren. He’s taking his wife out tonight, for the Valentine’s
dinner. And he phoned me up this evening to stand in. There’s been no music, because I didn’t know that Darren plays
it, generally. I thought it was automatically coming on the radio.
And today is the 14th of February 2006. And I had no major topic to talk about today, except, perhaps, to put some of
the tremendous finger-pointing that goes on between who’s behind this move towards the Great Society, as they call it,
that is being created gradually, down through the last many centuries, actually. Who’s behind this. And who’s right and
who’s wrong when it comes to all the finger-pointing between different groups. And, the thing is, if you check into the
material, the written materials of every group, and follow what they say, and the documentation that they have, you can
check out yourself, and say, my God, they’re all right. Every one of these sides with their documentation tends to make
you think they’re right. Well, how can they all be right? And the facts do all check out. You’ll find characters on every
side of this affair, who did make certain statements, who did make policies, who did decide to make major moves within
the world, and it’s all well documented. And yet, they’re all doing it. And it isn’t until you understand the big picture.
You have to get above the world, and look down here, to see the big picture, to understand that all of these groups, at the
top, are led by the same high, occult society. The top members know each other. They’re all brothers, high brothers.
The idea of a pyramid that appears in so many of their emblems, is that, you cannot see, if you’re on one side of a
pyramid, how many other sides there are. You can’t see them. Only the guy at the top, on the capstone, can look down
on all sides. And then, remember, there’s another side, which you don’t see, which is the base. So there’s actually five
sides to the pyramid. So only the guy at the top knows all the secrets. And Masonry is a degreed system, where every
degree means that you cannot tell the secrets of your new degree, and the new truths as they call them – new truths,
because they keep changing the truth as you go up – to the guy beneath you. So it’s a need-to-know basis.
And what you have behind all of this, is an ancient religion, ancient, which really has its basis, apart from an occultic
sense, perhaps even a demonic sense, you might say, it has its basis on evolution. And that’s why evolution has been
pushed so mightily, openly, since Darwin’s day, but this has always been their goal, that ultimately man would evolve.
They call it The Great Leap Forward. That’s the term which they used before World War II, in many of their own
publications, Masonic publications. The Great Leap Forward, but then they didn’t say how it would happen, you see.
And since nothing, as far as we can tell, evolves by itself in nature, they meant that man, because this is their religion,
and they count themselves, by the way, as man. Not everyone is man. There’s man, and then there’s the ‘its’ you see.
And they believe that through their own will and intellect, by using science, they will self-become a new creation. A
god you might say. Self-becoming God. And this symbol has been used from ancient times of the god that’s born out of
the head of Zeus, self-willed, and born without the aid of any god. This is what it means, and they call it becoming.
Many terms for the same thing.
And so, back in the 1800s, many of the writers were picked by the fledgling Royal Institute of International Affairs,
which is the British version and Commonwealth version of the CFR, paid writers to go out into the world, and write
novels about the coming system. And this is called predictive programming, through fiction. And it works very, very
successfully. Actually more successfully than straight, dry, boring non-fiction books, because no one, when you’re
watching a movie or reading a book of fiction, your censor part of the mind of your brain is down. And when that
happens, you’re being downloaded, really. You’re being led along a path using emotion. And that’s emotive imprinting,
they call it. And through emotion, they can make you desire or want or feel good towards or against anything, through a
fictional story. And you’re being shown, in a sense, the future, that they’re going to bring to you. And once the movie
or the book is finished, you think you’ve put it away and that’s that. But no, you’ve been familiarized now with the
possibility of this particular story or sci-fi, or whatever. And so when you see it manifest in your own life, and the
beginnings of the manifestation, because it’s familiar to you, you think, well, I guess that’s just the natural way we’re
evolving. We’re evolving this way. Society is just evolving. Nothing could be further from the truth.
History, as it’s written and presented in most school books, seems to be simply a conglomerate of guys scattered across
the planet, who suddenly have too many hormones and decide to go off with armies and become an Emperor by
slaughtering other people. And that’s further from the truth too. Nothing could be more far from the truth. From 4,500
B.C., at least, there’s been this move, stage by stage, of what they call bringing civilization – now they call it democracy,
but it’s the same thing – a system of money, debt, standing armies, a society where experts run everything. They’ve
been bringing this gradually forward, down through the centuries, up to the present, and with every area they take over,
they call it an expanded empire. So war has helped to bring an expanded empire which destroys existing cultures and
standardizes the people into the one culture. So they’re standardizing, down through the centuries, until we get to the
stage today where the United States of America, which was created and founded to bring in the Novus Ordo Seclorum,
The New World Order, is finishing off its job.
And that was referred to by all the founding fathers as Manifest Destiny. In many of the old books by the founding
fathers and some of the first generation after them, they referred to this all the time, in their publications, as Manifest
Destiny. It was never fully explained, obviously, to the public, but now we’re seeing what it is. Not only are we seeing
it, we’re having it explained to us by people like Brzezinski. You’ll see it in the New American Century club, the little
club formed by Wolfowitz and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Bush and so on, before 9/11 happened, where they listed the
coming wars, which they would have to do, they said, to maintain control of the world, beginning with Afghanistan,
next into Iraq, then in Iran, then Syria. They published this first in the early ’90s, and it’s available to the public. And
then they republished it and updated it in ’98, and lo and behold, in 2001, we find that they have the very thing they
needed to stimulate the American people, as Brzezinski said in his book, published in ’97, The Grand Chessboard. “We
will need something of a Pearl Harbor event to motivate the American public behind us for the war.”
Now, how many people can make wish lists like this for Santa Claus? Or win the lotto, just knowing you’re going to
win it? These guys write what they’re going to do, an event happens, right on cue, when they need it, ten years exactly
to the date, where George Bush Sr. talked about the coming New World Order, the Big Idea. The Masonic term, the Big
Idea, you see. That was on September 11th, 1990 and repeated in 1991. So, I don’t need to go over and over the events
of 9/11 to convince myself what happened here. You have to carry on from there and see what’s evolved since then,
because the push is now on for the US to fulfill its supposed Manifest Destiny, that which it was created to do.
It should also be understood that prior to America having the Revolution, Britain in other countries, France and some of
the Germanic and Prussian countries, had their own international meetings to discuss who would bring in this system.
And they realized that none of them could be chosen, because every one of them was known by the rest of the world as
an empire builder and a plunderer, basically. So they had to create a new shining knight, that claimed “I’m different.
I’m honest. And I’m all for the people,” you see. And so the U.S. was born. And it was born by a bunch of Masons,
who got inside a big building, locked the doors, had guards on the doors, to keep the profane, you know, the masses out,
and came out with this draft, which has been waved and waved and waved ever since, to justify everything under the
sun. From persecuting the average American today, to going off to foreign wars yesterday. It’s the same thing, it goes
both ways. And when they said this is for our posterity, written in the bill, they’re talking about their own offspring.
Their own offspring, you see, the Mason’s offspring, the same families.
So we’re living under a very old plan, an ancient plan, which believes in evolution. And evolution to them goes back to
the mystery religions of ancient times, where they studied nature. And they said, you cannot have an action without an
equal and opposite reaction. A law of science. And they studied the seasons, and they used to say that summer battled
winter, and spring would battle fall, and so on. In other words, to get change, which always comes – a law of nature is
change in the seasons of nature – then you must create sides to get the changes to occur. In a human society, that means
perpetual, ongoing war. War and conflict. And from the conflict, you get the resolution. And that starts right back
again as your thesis. You create an opposition to it, its antithesis; and then you have another outcome, synthesis. And it
repeats itself from the synthesis back to the new thesis. And on and on it goes. This was taught widely in all the
Communist schools in the Soviet Union, and Lenin and many other Communists wrote copiously on this very technique.
But it isn’t a Communist thing – they used it – it’s everybody’s thing.
All the Masons use it in every country. The Jesuits use it, because they’re part of Freemasonry. Isis with a thousand
faces. That’s what they used to call it in Babylon. It was the same church, with a thousand faces. And even then it was
a mystery, because people had a hard time pointing out who was behind things. “Oh, it’s that priest here. No, it’s the
priests over there. No, it’s those ones down south.” It’s the same today. The guys who lead these people at the top of
every group are the same brotherhood, and they know the agenda. The ones down below on the lower orders have had
real wars between themselves, down through the ages, because there must be real bloody conflict, to convince the
people. They must have conflict. And that’s what they call the law of nature, which through struggle, and Hitler used
the same term, Mein Kampf, My Struggle, because he believed in it too. And I’m sure he was put there too by the same
oligarchy, to do his bit. Through struggle, they would evolve into Super-man. And that’s the key to it, is Super-man.
So we find with the founders of the Fabian Society, with the Webbs, and H.G. Wells, and Lord Bertrand Russell, and
many of the elite, because the elite created the so-called far left wing Fabian society, and it was given a British Royal
Charter to exist. So you find that these people, actually, when they were quizzed about the future for the working man,
“are you for the working man? Is that what this society is for?” Mr. Webb piped up, along with Beatrice, her name was
Beatrice Potter by the way, her maiden name. And he said, oh goodness, no, he says, the masses can’t decide for
themselves. He says, the society we envisage is a world to be run by scientific experts. And different categories of
scientific experts to do with school, and psychology and so on and so on, you see. That’s the true meaning of the far-left
wing. It’s nothing to do with the working person, any more than Communism had to do with the average peasant in
Russia. At the end of the Soviet system, comparative standards of living of the bureaucracies living in the Soviet Bloc
were on equal par with the bureaucracies of Britain and America. So much for the working man.
So, the United States, as I say, was born for this Manifest Destiny. One of their own Masons, who was a spokesman for
pushing this agenda, was Manly Palmer Hall. And he put a book out called, America’s Secret Destiny, a Masonic book.
And he outlined the agenda, same thing, again, this why America is born. That’s why you’ve got the Washington
phallus there. It’s an Egyptian obelisk. The first brand new one to be built, on that scale, to raise Washington up to
godhood. That’s what that is for. He was raised to godhood by the Masons for his work, for his great work. Whereas
Britain imported one of the ones from Heliopolis in Egypt and put it in front of all their banks, you see. And there’s one
in the park in New York, from Egypt. And there’s one in front of the Parliament of France, imported from Egypt. And
then there’s the other one, in front of the Pope’s window, in St. Peter’s Square, from Egypt, brought by Constantine’s son
into the circus, and then moved around the 1500s to the Vatican Square.
We’re looking at a religion that uses the same symbols, down through the eons. It manages every traditional religion. It
makes sure that the top guys who run religions, and that’s the duty of organization, there’s always a tiered structure of
control, so it’s easy to put your own men at the top and keep control, you see. That’s why organized anything is rather
dangerous. And so they give you your passive religion to keep you as sheep, dull, stupid, and munching on the grass,
and obeying, and not thinking, while they pretend they’re the good shepherds and they’re managing everything. They
are the scientific elite. They are the experts. That’s what they’re there for. Don’t have to worry about anything. If the
news comes on, they’ll tell me all I need to know. And they will tell you all you need to know.
The media is one of the most important arms of government. We have a media that will not even mention the spraying
in the skies that’s happening every day across a good part of the planet. If they won’t tell you that, if they won’t talk
about it, why on earth would you expect them to tell you the truth about anything?
So, H.G. Wells, getting back to this predictive programming and the novels that they were paid to write, and put into our
minds, as a sort of natural evolution to come, you see. H.G. Wells wrote a book, and he used the preface of the speech
that he gave to the Royal Institute of International Affairs in 1936. And he called this, his lecture, The Concept of a
World Encyclopedia. If you remember in the French Revolution, the high Masons who took over called themselves the
Encyclopedists. So here’s Wells, in 1936, talking about the concept of a World Encyclopedia.
“At the first realization of the ineffectiveness of our best thought and knowledge struck only for a few people, like Mr.
Maynard Keynes, for example. It is science, and not men of science that we want to enlighten and animate in our
politics and rule the world.”
(Alan: And rule the world. And rule the world. That’s for the hard of hearing.)
“Wells basically reiterated the doctrine of scientism in his speech.” (A: To continue.) “I want to suggest that something,
a new social organization, a new institution, which for a time I shall call World Encyclopedia. This World
Encyclopedia would be the mental background of every intelligent man in the world. Such an Encyclopedia would play
the role of an undogmatic bible to the world culture.” (A: To the world culture.) “It would do just what our scattered
and disorientated, intellectual organizations of today fall short of doing. It would hold the world together, mentally.”
(A: Now, remember that.) ” It would hold the world together, mentally. It would compel men to come to terms with
one another” (A: Compel, you see. Compel men. That means force, you see, to come together.) “It is a superior
university I am thinking of, a world brain.” (A: A world brain. I wonder if anyone’s having pictures in their minds right
now of what that could mean. He said:) “A world brain, no less. Ultimately, if our dream is realized, it must exert a very
great influence upon every one who controls administration, makes wars, directs mass behavior, feeds, moves, starves,
and kills populations. You see how such an Encyclopedic Organization could spread like a nervous network.” (A: Got
little pictures in your head now? Nervous network. A sort of web, perhaps?) “A system of mental control about the
globe. Knitting all the intellectual workers of the world through a common interest and cooperating unity, and a
growing sense of their own dignity. And forming without pressure or propaganda, directing without tyranny.”
That’s from H.G. Wells, his presentation to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1936. Now, what does he mean
by a World Encyclopedia? And I’m sure if I had a second line, I’d have callers, I’d hope I’d have callers saying, well, are
they talking about computers here. Perhaps. Or maybe supercomputers, maybe a web, as he calls it a nervous system.
So, if we add this statement. And remember, we’re living in the past. Level one reality is antique. All technology that
we have is antique at this level. Whatever we’re given as the latest is obsolete at the top.
Now, here’s from journalist Nathan Cochrane. And this comes, actually from, he has a website, I believe. I got it from a
book, actually. And he’s got a long, long website, if I can find it, if anyone wants to check it. It’s
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/20/1026898931815.html and that was posted July 23rd, 2002. The article was
called:
US Reports tell of Brave New World
by Nathan Cochrane
(A: And here it is)
A draft government report says we will alter human evolution within 20 years by combining what we know of
nanotechnology, biotechnology, integrated technology (IT) and cognitive sciences. The 405-page report sponsored by
the US National Science Foundation and Commerce Department, Converging Technologies for Improving Human
Performance, calls for a broad-based research program to improve human performance leading to (A: Listen to this)
telepathy, (A: They’re talking about having a chip in your brain, if you haven’t caught on.) machine-to-human
communication, amplified personal sensory devices and enhanced intellectual capacity.
(A: That’s from Cochrane’s report, page 1, 2002. To carry on with the second part of the same article:)
People may download their consciousnesses into computers or other bodies even on the other side of the solar system,
or participate in a giant “hive mind”, (A: A giant hive mind. Is that the Borg, perhaps?) a network of intelligences
connected through ultra-fast communications networks. “With knowledge no longer encapsulated in individuals, the
distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur,” (A: The distinction between individuals and
the entirety of humanity would blur.) the report says. “Think Vulcan mind-meld. We would perhaps become more of a
hive mind – an enormous, single, intelligent entity.”
(A: That report that he gave out, finishes with, it says:)
The report says the abilities are within our grasp but will require an intense public-relations effort to “prepare key
organizations and societal activities for the changes made possible by converging technologies”, and to counter concern
over “ethical, legal and moral” issues. (A: Now, listen to that, again.) to counter concern over “ethical, legal and moral”
issues. (A: You see, they’ve already got the propaganda techniques working, already, since that meeting, through
movies, through cartoons even, to make this a positive thing to go for.) Education should be overhauled down to the
primary-school level to bridge curriculum gaps between disparate subject areas.
It’s the half time. Well, we won’t have music tonight, but you’re listening to Alan Watt on Sweet Liberty, standing in for
Darren, who’s off tonight. And I’m reading some articles here about the scientific dictatorship basically, which we’re
under today, which is actually an ancient religion, simply coming into manifestation, as they see their end goal in sight.
Now, Zbigniew Brzezinski who has been an advisor to, I don’t know how many Presidents, he was there even with
Carter, and he’s still there. And he’s on television quite regularly. His area seems to be mind control and national
security.
Hello, this is Alan here again. I’m back on the air. And of course, there’s no one to play the music tonight, because
Darren is gone for the night. So, I’ll continue with Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was President Carter’s National Security
advisor. And he’s still advising the present bunch along with Kissinger and so on. He wrote a book in 1997, which sort
of backed up the New American Century publication, of their agenda. And he said in this book, The Grand Chessboard.
“The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-
Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world’s paramount
power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere
power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power.”
Alan: Hello?
Jeff: Oh, yes. This is Jeff calling from Chelsea Massachusetts. How’s it going?
Alan: I can barely hear you.
Jeff: Oh, really? Now, as far as global politics is concerned, what the United States has to do to be sovereign again, is to
eliminate our treaties as far as NAFTA, GATT, and the FTAA, which is coming up, all these treaties. When we do that,
we can truly become a sovereign country, again. But if we don’t, then we’ll be, like you said, a globalist power. It’s just
that simple.
Alan: Okay. If you can hang up now, I’ll reply. Okay?
Jeff: Okay, I’ll hang up.
Alan: Yes, well, that really wouldn’t make much of a difference to be honest, because, see, everything which you think
is normal in your life has been planned that way. It didn’t evolve that way. Including the founding of the United States
in the first place. And all the things that you hold near and dear, with the flags and the songs and all the usual stuff is
actually called culture creation, which you can read about. It’s actually a science. You can read about it as far back as
Plato, who wrote about it, and how they create cultures for the people. Culture never comes from the grass roots. It
comes from the top down. It’s authorized to be there, you see. Anything. Control freaks who have total control, never
allow anything to come up truly from the grassroots and survive, because something outside of their plan, no matter how
innocent it may be, could have such unforeseen ripple effects, it could cause chaos to them. So, the US did not become.
What stage of America would you want to go back to? When FDR ruled with his version of the bank and the debt
system? Would you want to go back to the depression? Would you want to go back to two or three depressions they
had in the 1800s, when Morgan and all the bunch got together and sank the economy and looted it? Looted all the
pensions, three times in ten years. What part of America do you want to go back to? You see, it’s always been run by
the same people, the robber barons. They’re pirates. That’s their symbol, the skull and bones. That’s the symbol of
Masonry. So you can never go back to something which was artificial to begin with. Right after you got the
constitution and the hoorays, you had the Treaty of Paris. Well, go and check into that and see what the U.S. signed
away. Look at the first law they passed, supposedly to fight taxation from Britain, they passed the Whiskey Laws, and
then got a little army up to go and slaughter all the guys who were making their whiskey. It’s the same system under a
new face. Better disguised, but the same system. So you can’t go back. There’s a movie called Hollywoodism. It’s put
out by Hollywood producers, and it’s subtitled how we created American culture. Get a hold of it. And get it from the
horse’s mouth. It’s been the same in every country. The same technique has been used for thousands of years. Well
documented on how it’s done, by Plato.
So, I’ll get back to Zbigniew Brzezinski. He talks about this global superpower, the first truly global power. You see,
the rest of them, they called the Roman Empire, etc. Which was a huge empire, but in a sense it wasn’t right round the
whole world. This one here is to be round the whole world. The standardization of one system. And if you remember,
the symbols of knights, because the high knights are the guys who are in charge of this on all sides. And they have a
flag, which they call a standard. And they plant the standard in a field before the battle. And when they win a battle,
then that standard, that symbol of the standard is spread over the conquered land. They standardize everything and
everywhere they go. Standardization. That’s it. The one system. And this has been going on for so, so long. So, yeah,
Brzezinski knew it was coming. He was in on the planning of this. And he also basically said, it could only be held
together by global scientific dictatorship, a world of experts, elite experts, to run the people.
If we fall back to Charles Galton Darwin’s book, the physicist, the grandson of Charles Darwin, who wrote the book,
The Next Million Years in 1954 or ’56. He said the same thing there, that the elite themselves will not alter themselves
physically, meaning, they won’t take a chip, you see, or have the nasty inoculations, and eat the modified food and so
on. He said, they must retain their survival capabilities, because the elite will be steering the ship of earth. The masses
won’t need theirs, because the state will be making all their decisions for them. So, keep that in mind when you read
what they talk about this universal consciousness, this telepathic hive mind which they talk about.
This is the same Rosicrucian term that was used by John Dee and Francis Bacon in the 1500s, the Universal Mind, the
One. We’ll all be one. Now think of the Borg from the Star Trek series, and it’s exactly the same. The Borg ship is
called the Hive. All of the cyborgs, part human, part machine, are connected with little chips, to a central computer in
the ship, the hive and they hear each other’s whispers going through. And they show you right there. They show you
when some are caught and captured and asked about themselves, they couldn’t react as an individual. They said “we.”
They always referred to themselves as “we,” because you cannot be an individual and be totally connected at the same
time.
This particular article from Cochrane, was held in Loyola University. And there was 600 pages, came out at the
University level, and they took 250 pages away for the public. However, I’ve got a copy of the original. And they said
the chip is ready to go, all we must do is convince the public to accept it. This will be done, they continue. This will be
done by promotion through movies, science fiction and cartoons, even taught in kindergarten as a wonderful thing to
come, in school. And going through all these pages, 600 pages of all these top scientists and Newt Gingrich led off the
meeting by the way, paid for by your tax money. The scientists said that they’ll promote it, making it a desirable thing
for children. Children will want what they think are superpowers, like their comic characters, their cartoon characters,
or Spider-Man or whatever. They’ll think it’s going to give them special powers, so that’s how they’re going to promote
it to them. However that same meeting said that supercomputers, Cray supercomputers, are already set up in every
region, that’s the term they love to use, region, across the United States and Canada. And when everyone has the chip,
the real function will kick in. And literally, there will be no more individuality. They said it would be impossible for
anyone to even perceive of themselves as a distinct separate “I”, individual.
So, the card, of course, the Identification Card, which is coming in 2007. It’s already being given out at the border at the
moment for $2, so if you rush now, you get it at the deal of $2 you see. This is how they’re promoting it, for frequent
cross-border shoppers. And it has an active ID chip in it. It has your iris scan. It has your DNA sample and your code
in there. It has a digital photograph of you. This has your medical history. It’s eventually to be used the same way, it’s
the same as the British card, and they’ve admitted there that it will eventually be your sole bank and credit card for the
cashless society. So, once people accept that, and I can’t see any reason why they won’t, because there’s enough people
rushing to get the ‘buy now at $2 while you can, prices won’t last’, there’s enough of them lining up, like idiots, right
now, so I can’t see it being much of a problem for most people taking it.
The masses have never really been a problem for the elite who run the world. The reason for the brain chip really isn’t
for the masses. They’re not worried about them so much. This is an attack on the individual thinker. That’s who they
must get. That’s their Achilles heel. They’re terrified of the individual thinker. So everyone is going to get chipped by
law. And once the card is out there and everyone has one, you’ll see such a spate of robberies and muggings to get the
card. It will go on for year or two at the most, until we’re sick of hearing it, night after night on the media, and lo and
behold, they’ll come forward and say, well, we’ve got the solution right here. And it’s called the chip, by the way,
because that’s the Masonic term, as they go round the block, as they call it, the big Ashlar, the little altar in the middle.
It’s a chip off the old block. That’s their little sarcastic joke, on you.
This is a religion behind this. A religion that they claim was born, at least the Great Work plan was born, 4,500 BC.
And step by step, generation by generation, conquest by conquest, they’ve been taking over and taking over until there’s
a world empire, a global world empire, run by an elite, who will have their brains intact, their individuality intact.
They’ll have life extension and all that kind of stuff, which the rest won’t have, while everyone else, they’ll be a Borg. A
happy little Borg, you see. In fact, you can’t really be happy or unhappy, because you won’t know what that is. And
you won’t know, even if you were unhappy, you couldn’t even form the words that “I am unhappy”. There will be no
more you. And they can literally reprogram you, every day, to do the different tasks. You could be working in a pig
sty, mucking a barn somewhere, one day, and helping to erect a skyscraper the next. It won’t matter to you. And that’s
the universal one, the universal consciousness that they’ve pushed through the New Age Movement, for years steadily,
to get them all to go for this idea. Oh, we’re all One. UN is the French word, un, for one. What a coincidence, eh?
So this is where it’s all heading. Planned long before I was born, long before every one of you was born. And they
knew they had the technology a long time ago to bring it off, because these guys did not claim to use crystal balls. The
high levels of science is never known to the public. At the low level of science, which is everything from the media, to
the scientific magazines, from professorships down, that’s the lowest bottom, antique level of science. Physics,
chemistry, biology, etc. That’s the lowest level. And the magazines that they churn out there, which make you think
that this is the latest, or they’re just working towards this, that’s rubbish. It’s called research, because it’s re-search. The
search has already been done before. Why else would you call it research?
That’s the key to this agenda here, the new man to come. The thousand years of peace, you see, when you’re all
chipped. And no one can cause any problems. They won’t need the media. They won’t need all the sports teams. They
won’t need all the sports commentators to amuse us and pass our time for us, so as we don’t sit and think for ourselves.
My god, that would not do, no they won’t need that anymore. It will be one nice silent, humming, buzzing little world.
A quiet hum from the massive universal hive, the Borg ship. And the Borg ship, of course, as you see in the Star Trek
movies, is the New Jerusalem. It’s the square, it’s a square ship. It’s a cube, like a sugar cube. The hive. It’s the ashlar,
the perfectly squared stone. Taken from the natural roundness and squared, perfectly. That’s what it is, it’s all High
Freemasonry. And they throw it in our face, and we pop bubblegum and chew and pop the popcorn, and say, “well, that
was a good movie. What’s next? Yawn.” Because people today have a terrible time thinking for themselves.
Brzezinski in The Grand Chessboard and in previous books, has told us, in fact, one of his previous books, he
mentioned that shortly the time will come when the average individual will be unable to think for themselves. They’ll
only be able to repeat what they’ve been downloaded with by the previous day’s news. And we’re seeing that today.
People today can’t see the trails above their head, and the planes making the mess in the sky. The reason for it is, they
truly believe the media is doing their thinking for them. They’ve given over the right to think and perceive and conclude
for themselves. They’ve given it over to the media. So, if the media doesn’t mention it, it can’t be true. I see it, but it
can’t be true. So, I’ll take the media’s version, it can’t be true. Ancient trickery. It was used by priests, in ancient times,
the same technique. Get between the organ of perception and in between the brain to the conclusion, and you can warp
it completely. And this is a science which has been understood for thousands of years.
Look at the symbols in the United States. Look at the symbol of Washington’s biggest erection. And look what it
comes over. It comes over the long pool of water below. Because the erection, which gives off the spirit of life, the
semen, the fire from the top, that’s how it’s often symbolized. The one they put up after they killed Kennedy, actually
has a simulated flame on top of it, and again, with a pool of water to reflect it, because that’s the male and the female.
The female is water, who could only reflect the light off her husband, you see. Because, according to them, women
have no soul; their gift was given to them to reproduce their own kind, so they were called mother, and matter, and
mortar. Same thing. But these characters, these creeps, with the rather exaggerated phallic symbols, mean business.
And they have their symbols all around you, right to the oval office; that shadow is cast from that huge you know what,
the egg, the cosmic egg. The egg where all things are birthed. Ideas, the Big Idea of Bush Sr.
All sides at the top are in on this plan. All sides. The Zionists at the top are in on it. Because, when you join the high
noble orders, your new family is the international brotherhood of the elite. You leave your old family, your old kind
behind. You might still walk around as the head of a church or whatever, or an organization, but your other face is
reserved for your true brotherhood, the international ones. You’ve been ascended up the ladder into godhood. So, as
they go toward this goal, we watch the death rate climbing through diseases, brand new diseases. One in two will have
cancer they say, my God, we just don’t understand it, and they don’t seem terribly bothered about it, either. It’s caused,
you see, through the inoculations, it’s preprogrammed through inoculations. Dr. Salk, from the vaccine, the polio
vaccine movement said that himself. He said, yes, there were live simian viruses there, the Simian 40 virus causes
cancer. That’s its only function.
So, we have these monsters guiding us, the good shepherds, with their white coats on, smiling at us, doing exactly what
Toynbee said, the Professor from Oxford who taught Rhodes Scholars and gave lectures to the international
revolutionary committees. He says, we always deny with our mouths what we do with our hands. And they’re still
doing it. They smile and they lie, as they actually do what we suspect they’re doing. That’s the good shepherd. If he
was a bad shepherd, we’d know what he was up to. He’d give it away. But these guys can smile, and talk nicely to us,
and dress in their Masonic suits and ties, with their little tow-rope round their neck called a necktie. That’s the Masonic
outfit. That’s his limit, you see. That’s as far as he can go. And they run this system.
And they hide behind cloaks of charity at the bottom. Albert Pike himself said those at the bottom are the outer portico.
They’re basically no different than the profane. He said, it’s not necessary they understand the rituals they’ve been
through, or the symbols they’ve been shown, it’s only necessary that they think they understand them. And so they’re a
good outer cover for charity work and a self-help group, a self-improvement group, you know, that type of thing.
Well, I’ve got five minutes left, so I should mention that for the listeners, I’ve been on a couple of shows since I’ve been
on here last. And I’ve been on with Hehpsehboah, who’s got Eye on the Future. That’s the internet site from Vancouver.
Eye on the Future with Hehpsehboah. And I’m on with her again on March the 5th, and March the 12th, and I may have
some other ones coming up too. I was also on The Edge with Daniel Ott, and that is available from Daniel Ott’s
website, TheEdgeAM.com. You can download that for free at the moment. And you can also look into my website,
Cutting Through the Matrix at .com. And there’s material on there which you can also download for free. For those
who want the books I’ve written up explaining some of this occult Masonry, and the symbology behind it, the ritualism
behind it, including how your language is encoded, you can get them as well, if you contact the website or you contact
me. And I’ll get them out as soon as possible. That’s the one-minute bell up and I thank you for tuning in, and listening
to me on Sweet Liberty tonight. Thank You.
February 22nd, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Alan Watt is with us tonight, folks. And Alan, thanks again for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: Greetings from the frozen North.
Jackie: (Laughter) Greetings from the frozen North. Okay. We’re not talking to Santa Claus, right?
Alan: No, it’s just the guy who chases the minks out his door.
Jackie: So, how are you, Alan?
Alan: Oh, not so bad, really.
Jackie: Not so bad. We were talking, I guess it was this past week, one evening, and we got to talking about this
country, the US of A, and how we were all here. We were all born into this, of course, so we believed it. And no matter
what goes on around us. No, not we. I shouldn’t say that. Because, there are those of us who are waking up to it, but
for so long, and you’ll still hear people say, well, it might not be the greatest, but it’s still the greatest country in the
world. You know, we have liberty, we have a constitution, and if you don’t like it, if you say anything, then a lot of
people will say, well, if you don’t like it, why don’t you just leave. And what we were talking about Alan, is right from
the get-go, the people who came over here. And I would like for you to expand upon that tonight, the indentured
servants that came over here, Alan.
Alan: Well, I was going to say first off the bat, it’s nothing to do with false teeth. It’s a law, you see, that they
indentured servants.
Jackie: It has nothing to do with what?
Alan: Nothing to do with false teeth.
Jackie: Oh. (Laughter)
Alan: You see, it’s all to do with these laws that they passed back in Britain, when they had the Americas and they
wanted to populate it with British subjects. And it’s an odd state of affair, when you can be a serf, which is a slave,
really. You’re bought and sold with the land. Or you can be charged with a crime, and that’s how basically they got
this thing off the go. At one time England only had judges authorized by the high court to try cases, but they needed a
lot more men to do these cases for all the new laws they were going to bring in, because they had to pass laws to make
sure that they had enough people or criminals, that they could send abroad to populate the Americas. So everything
became a crime. They dumped all the peasants off of the land, their common land, it was called, where they could grow
their own vegetables, in between working for their masters. And they threw them off their land into the big cities, to
start up the industrial era, which was planned hundreds of years prior to that. John Dee writes about it in the 1500s.
Jackie: Did he call it the industrial era?
Alan: He talked about an era where technology and machines, he said, would rise and bring Britain up to an empire. He
coined the term the British Empire, which was to be a world empire.
Jackie: Who was John Dee?
Alan: He was an advisor to the court of Queen Elizabeth I and he was also a foreign ambassador to different countries.
And he was also a spy for Queen Elizabeth I. And his number was 007.
Jackie: Oh, come on.
Alan: Seriously. That’s how he signed his letters to the Queen.
Jackie: 007. Oh, man.
Alan: So everything is in our face. It’s just a big joke to the public. Or at least they’re laughing at us, because we have
no idea of history. And if you have no idea of history, you’ll never know how you got to where you are.
Jackie: Oh, exactly. What is, I don’t mean to, and I’m not going to, what is a mall? Over there in Britain? What
exactly was a mall? It wasn’t a shopping place?
Alan: No.
Jackie: What was it, Alan?
Alan: Well, a maul was a type of weapon.
Jackie: No, because I was reading a book about India. And that was India under the authority of the British East India
Company, the government and the company. Some areas, it was the British government. In some areas it was the
company, I guess. I mean, they were all one and the same anyway. But they were talking about a wedding that was
taking place, in India, and they were on the mall, it said.
Alan: A mall in that case is the fairway coming into a palace. It’s like a long street or driveway. You get the same in
London with Pall Mall, they call it.
Jackie: Yeah, Pall Mall. We had Pall Mall cigarettes here.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And I thought about that when I read that. Okay. Now they call over here, we have shopping malls.
Alan: That’s right. A strip. So it would be a strip of land, but it used to be a street, really, leading to a palace or
whatever, you know.
Jackie: So, in the 1500s, John Dee talked about the industrial era.
Alan: That’s when they burst out with Rosicrucianism. The sort of precursor, and it’s still the high Freemasonry in a
sense. And they talked about, he coined the term and gave it to the Queen, to call it, he called it the Brytish, B-R-Y-T-IS-
H, Brytish Empire. And he said, this will stretch across the world. And of course, it was to be exactly what it is. It
was to be a world run by an elite, a dominant minority with the money and the power and the hereditary lineages, and
then a scientific elite underneath them, which would basically be the masters of all the peasantry underneath them. So,
that’s pretty well what we have with the United Nations, and the Rockefeller, all the different foundations that we know,
so, yeah, he wrote a lot about the coming Brytish Empire.
Jackie: Was he a Rosicrucianist?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: And what is the difference between Rosicrucian, Rosicrucianism and Zoroastrianism?
Alan: Well, Zoroaster was really the precursor of all the religions that we know of. Coming out with the idea of the
war, there’s always a war on the planet between two entities, if you like, or two sides of good and evil. That’s different
again. It’s a religion in that sense. Rosicrucianism incorporated reason, you’ll hear that coming across through in
history, this thing about reason. But it also incorporated the religion that went with it, which was Freemasonry, which is
more akin to Hinduism than anything. It’s a caste system.
Jackie: Freemasonry or Rosicrucianism?
Alan: Rosicrucian is Freemasonry.
Jackie: Okay, and Freemasonry is a caste system.
Alan: Yes. See, Masonry has a thousand names. A thousand names, but they’re all the same. There’s only one head to
the pyramid, one capstone.
Jackie: When you say that, are you talking about all the different secret societies?
Alan: All of them.
Jackie: Skull and Bones, and…
Alan: They’re only a higher order of the same society.
Jackie: They’re a higher order?
Alan: You find if you go, those in the Ivy League schools, such as Yale and Princeton, and of course in England they’ve
got Cambridge and Oxford, these are traditional old families that go there. And they are really a noble order, so they’re
a higher order.
Jackie: What was the one that Clinton was in? It wasn’t Skull and Bones, but there was another one, kind of the
counterpart to Skull and Bones.
Alan: Well, he did go to, he was sent off to Oxford in England, as a Rhodes scholar. And there he became initiated into
the Oxford Circle, they call it.
Jackie: There’s a name for it though, except I can’t remember it. I don’t think it had. It seemed to me it had something
to do with Dog, but maybe it doesn’t. Maybe I’m thinking of dog and pony show. Zoroastrianism, was that
Zarathustra, the one that started that?
Alan: That’s what is claimed.
Jackie: And Zoroastrianism is not the same as Rosicrucianism.
Alan: No. At least the old Zoroastrianism wasn’t, no. The original Zoroastrian religion was really an attempt to explain
the incredible differences of happiness and sadness, wealth and poverty, cruelty and love that exists within all humanity.
You know, the opposites. And so they came up with this idea of a conflicting war, to explain why some people are
pretty good people, and other ones are just thoroughly evil. And that really was copied down through the ages by the
religions that came afterwards, but perverted too, of course.
Jackie: Okay. So, getting back to these United States of America.
Alan: Oh, they had to populate it.
Jackie: You made a statement, and I know that was a very broad statement, but you said everything was against the law.
So, obviously they made a lot of pecuniary laws?
Alan: What they did, was for the first time, they made justices of the peace, because they didn’t have enough judges, so
they gave lesser members of wealthy families these jobs as justices of the peace.
Jackie: Is that the same as a magistrate?
Alan: That’s right. And so, they didn’t have to even have any law training at all. And in Britain, you didn’t get a trial
by jury. You just went up in front of the magistrate or the justice of the peace, and he’d give a wink to the charging
officer, and found you guilty of whatever it was, and then you were indentured, which meant you were in servitude for
X-amount of years. So, you were sold off to the Americas, and whoever bought you from the ship that you arrived on,
paid a fee to the captain, who took his cut. And then, when he went back to England, the captain gave it to the
magistrate, what was left. They all took their cuts, right along the line. It was a slave trade, of course. And they were
white people that were initially sent over. That’s where the term redneck came from. Initially they used them in the
Caribbean countries, and they used to call them red shanks, initially, because they had the short breeches without socks,
you know. And they’d work in the plantations. And because the sun was on their back, they’d get the red shanks, the
red legs, and then they changed it to red neck. And that’s where that term came from.
Jackie: Now, there were people, weren’t there people who came over here of their own volition, Alan?
Alan: Oh, there were people who did, but that was really later, you know.
Jackie: Okay, we’re talking very early, huh?
Alan: Early, right through into the 1700s. I mean, Benjamin Franklin bought his first wife off the ship. She was an
indentured servant. Many of these guys bought their wives off the ships.
Jackie: Also, you know, that book that I read, the interpretation of the Constitution, Economic Interpretation. The
people that came over here, many people, this would have been later, when they wanted to, you know, really begin to
settle the open areas, and they were promised land, remember, Alan. Well, the guys that were already here, and many of
the guys that were in the Constitutional Convention, were landowners. And they bought up huge, huge, huge of the
greatest, best, land. So when these people came over here, and they were promised land, the land that they were given
was crappy land. And if they wanted land where they were actually going to be able to farm and really homestead, they
had to pay a high price for the land. And then when they, okay, now they’re going to go out west. Okay? They’re
going to go out there and get some good land. Well, the land barons just beat them to it. And they got out there and did
the same dog-gone thing out west, Alan.
Alan: Sure. We’re being farmed, you see. We truly are being farmed. You know, like Charles Fort said. We’re being
farmed.
Jackie: What do you mean, being farmed?
Alan: They farm us up for their wars, such as in Britain. When the Rothschilds took over they started a standing army.
Before that they used mercenary troops. So, then they brought the redcoats in with the standing army, with the Bank of
England funding it, and with the right to tax the people, to keep the standing army. And then, from then on, it’s one war
after another. And so, they were culling off the population, what they thought were the excess, at the same time those
soldiers were winning more land for Britain, for London, really, as they were culling off the soldiers. And of course, the
Rothschild companies were supplying all the armaments and clothing, etc. So, it’s a business. War is a business for
them. They farm us up to a particular level when they need us, and they also cull us down with disease and so on, when
they don’t need us. Or else, they export us abroad, you see. And that’s the standard technique, it’s even in the
economic books. That’s the standard technique that’s always been used.
Jackie: Human capital. Chattel.
Alan: Yeah, and when Rothschild passed the law, he put the bill forward in Parliament, in England. It was called the
Corn Laws. And what they did, that allowed the European farmers to dump their grain in Britain, and that put all the
small holders out of Britain. And they had to go into the cities, the industrial, the new industrial cities, and work
sixteen, seventeen hours a day till they died. You know, they dropped dead.
Jackie: Say that again. They allowed them to dump their corn? Well, who are we talking about, them?
Alan: Well, I said Rothschild.
Jackie: No, no, I mean, who was dumping their corn?
Alan: The European farmers.
Jackie: Were they being paid for it?
Alan: Oh, yeah. But they were allowed to dump them at cheap prices, and without tariffs. That was Free Trade, you
might say, without tariffs and into Britain, and at such cheap prices. I mean, it was all orchestrated by the Rothschilds.
And sure enough, all the farmers were suddenly put out of business, and all the farm hands. And they had to move into
the new industrial areas, like Manchester, Birmingham, and so on, where they were, you know, paid pennies per week,
and worked sixteen, seventeen hours a day. The rest were put into the army. There was no other choice. And that was,
I think even Benjamin Franklin, who was an illuminatist. There was no problem about it. He definitely was. But,
because they’re illuminati, they can tell you the truth. They can tell you both sides of the story, you know. And
Franklin did say that industrialization was the worst form of a system that he’d ever seen. He said, because he’d
witnessed the peasants in Britain, working sixteen hours a day in the factories, walking out of the factories, absolutely
tired and staggering, without shoes on their feet, and yet, he was talking about a shoe factory. They couldn’t even afford
the shoes they made. That’s how poor Great Britain was for the people.
Jackie: For the people. And that’s how poor that people were who came over here.
Alan: Oh, well, yeah. And of course, when they started up the indentured servitude, they made so many laws that they
were getting thousands a week.
Jackie: And even like the Irish came over during the famine. They took them right off the boat, and threw them into the
big factories, the sweatshops.
Alan: Sure. And with Ireland too, that was contrived. Because, the oddest thing is, and it’s the oddest story, it’s never
made any sense, is that a ship came in from America, bound to dock in Ireland, and then go on to a port in England.
Half its cargo was to be unloaded in Ireland, and that’s what they claimed, in came the potato fungus, or whatever it
was, that started killing off the potatoes. However, they dumped the other half of the load in England, and nothing
happened there, from the same cargo.
Jackie: Why?
Alan: Well, obviously, either somebody introduced something. These guys were scientists back then too. They did
have a lot of knowledge, and you find that from the 1500s. But they wanted to move the Irish out. There’s no doubt.
And Jonathan Swift, who wrote Gulliver’s Travels, and who was a high Freemason, who also, and a little side note here.
Jonathan Swift, who was an elitist and very arrogant, he did say, let the Irish eat their own children. That’s what he said
in Parliament in England.
Jackie: Oh, my God.
Alan: This was a loving thing…
Jackie: And he meant that literally, didn’t he?
Alan: He hated them. And he was talking about the Irish Catholics, of course. And the Masons at that time, at least that
branch of them, were against the Catholics. And of course, Swift also in Gulliver’s Travels, wrote a part where Gulliver
comes to the island where the horses are very sophisticated and intelligent and aristocratic, and the barbarians are the
humans. Now the humans, he coined the term Yahoo. The humans who were barbaric were called Yahoos. And that’s
why you have Yahoo on the internet. It’s for the yahoos. It’s a Masonic joke on the people.
Jackie: Not only that, but, you know in Immanuel Velikovsky’s book, Worlds in Collision, I highlighted this, because
they said that the Earth was like creaking. And they termed the sound that it was making as Yahoo. And I thought, oh,
my God, and we’ve got the Yahoo search engine.
Alan: That’s right. And also, that’s what the cowboys were made to say in the movies, is Yahoo, you know. But they
were the base people. And it’s a Masonic mockery, you see. Anyway, getting back to the Irish. People think that the
Irish were living on nothing but potatoes, and they don’t realize that the big, big farmers that London had made settle in
Ireland, the Protestant type farmers, were the new land lords, basically, had lots of other grain, but the people were not
allowed to eat it. And the Catholic Church really helped, because they came in and told them to obey the laws and just
starve to death, and be good little citizens, you know.
Jackie: But while the people were starving over there, they still had to tithe. And if they had no money, they brought
food.
Alan: Yeah, I know. But it was so, those people, it’s so disgusting…
Jackie: They were living in luxury, Alan.
Alan: I know. And then of course, they also did the same in Scotland, you know. And this is how they contrive things,
because they run all sides of everything. They already had the German bunch in as the king and queen of England, the
Georges. And Prince Charlie, of course, the descendant of the Stuart lineage, was over living with the Jesuits in France,
and Italy in some cases. And they brought him back for the rebellion in 1745. And so, sure enough, he came over to
Scotland, and he got a few, just a handful of clans behind him, and he said, we’re going to take over London. And sure
enough, they fought their way right down to London, just a few clans, and they were only 30 miles from Darby.
London was being evacuated by the elite. They thought they’d had it. And then Charlie changed his mind and went
back. That’s when you know that…
Jackie: He went back where?
Alan: To Scotland. So, here he was within reach of claiming London and he turns back. He took the men up to the
loneliest bog in Scotland, the north of Scotland, and he went to Culloden House, the big mansion that was a few miles
away, spent the night there eating and feasting, and in the morning the Scots woke up with the British, the whole British
army, with the Scots lowland regiments too, all lined up with cannon and everything against them. On an April
morning, with freezing rain in their faces, and they stood there for four and a half hours solid, waiting for the order to
charge, as they were getting shot down with grapeshot. And Charlie never told them to charge. And the reason was,
Charlie had vamoosed. He’d gone. He never arrived on the battlefield. He went straight over to the Island of Skye and
then they had a ship waiting that took him back to France. But they used that excuse of a rebellion to clear the
highlands of millions of people. And sure enough, that’s what they did. In came the redcoats, they cleared the
highlands. They got every dirty little old tub that could float, or just about float, and they pressed all these people on,
set them off for America, and many of them sunk within sight of the coastline, and their relatives could watch them all
going under. And this is how they populated America. This is the real history.
Jackie: Oh, yes. And then it just goes on and on and on, too, because recently I watched a movie, I think it was called
Matewan, and it was in Maitwan, Virginia. I might be saying the name wrong, but it was the coal miners, Alan. And it
was a very well made movie. And, basically, what it showed was the control. They went in there. They took the
people off the land, the coal companies, and confiscated their land, and then pressed them into service into the coal
mines. And there were seven and eight-year-old children in there. This was early 1900s, Alan.
Alan: I know some guys who told me this. They saw it happen.
Jackie: That’s right. And, you know, I remember Tennessee Ernie Ford’s song, Sixteen Tons. It never meant anything
to me, because we weren’t taught this in history. But it was, you know, “you load sixteen tons and what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.”
Alan: That’s right, because it was company towns.
Jackie: “Peter don’t you call me, because I can’t go. I owe my soul to the company store.” And when they hired these
people, they lived in company housing, and had to pay rent for it.
Alan: And a company store.
Jackie: Even their tools. The company fronted them their tools, and took it out of their pay. Everything. They went on
strike. And they finally, in this movie, and in this particular situation, and I don’t remember the exact date, but they
prevailed. About five years later, and this is in the Encyclopedia, when it tells about it, five years later, same place.
They struck again. They went on strike. And the government, the federal government brought troops in, shot them,
Alan. Coal miners working for a private company, and the federal government brought troops in and shot them. You
know, I’ve lived for so long with this dream of America in my heart. And this was one of the reasons I did want to talk
about this tonight, because it’s time we give up the dream. It’s never been a dream, it’s a nightmare.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: It is truly a nightmare. We’re going to have to take a break here.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back folks. …The address to his website is .com. And Alan has three books. If you haven’t, I’ve
heard from so many of you, and when you call or when you write, you almost never fail to mention how much you
appreciate Alan Watt and the information that is provided. And so, the books that he has written, it puts some meat into,
it goes beyond just a conversation. Let’s put it that way. And when you go into .com, you can actually read some
excerpts of each of the books. There’s three of them. …Alan, anything else you want to say about that, honey?
Alan: No, that’s pretty well it. And those three books, I could just say that it’s a process. I write in a different fashion,
because I try to involve the reader in a formula that wakes them up as they read, rather than just have a dull boring dates
and who said what and who did what, you know. That doesn’t work. It does not work. We’ve had this for so long, you
know, it doesn’t work. So, I hit them with symbols and so on that are used, that are in front of their faces. They don’t
think about them. I explain them to them, and start their minds working for themselves. That’s the process of it. It’s a
technique.
Jackie: That’s what we have to do, is start thinking for ourselves, isn’t it?
Alan: Oh, that’s it.
Jackie: You know, it sure helps. For those of us who do communicate, and of course, you being on the air with us,
because a lot of times things are pointed out, it’s happened to me so many times, Alan, that you’ve pointed out
something, that I didn’t, I wouldn’t have even thought about it, if you hadn’t said it, and then suddenly it’s as clear as
the nose on your face. So, maybe it’s beyond just thinking for ourselves. It’s that the truth has been, so much of the
truth has been suppressed that we’ve all lived in some little dreamland thinking it was a dream, and come to find out,
like I said, it’s been a nightmare, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, I always say that. You wake up from the dream into the nightmare, when you realize the reality of what it
is all about.
Jackie: Well, and you know, there’s just another thing that was on my mind, when we were talking about this situation
there in Matewan. I was thinking also, watching that movie, I was thinking about World War I and the soldiers that
fought in World War I were promised a bonus by the US government, and then of course, the depression hit. They
never got their bonuses, and they were starving, those that survived World War I. You had them, you know they were
limbless, and crippled, and etc, and they weren’t getting their bonus, so they marched, with their families. They took
trains, they drove, and they walked to Washington D.C. to plead with the government to give them their bonuses
because they were starving, and the military came out and shot at them. I remember, I read quite a bit about it. They
were actually camping out in tents. And it was, I think Dwight Eisenhower was maybe one of them that was involved in
that. General MacArthur. One of those guys gave the orders for the troops to open fire on WWI veterans, Alan. Now,
that’s America, the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Alan: Well, you see, that all came from Britain, because this is the difference too. In recent years, really in the last
century, they trained Americans, indoctrinated them actually into the tribal system, that the tribal emblems, the flag,
they had all the children reciting with the hand over the heart, you know, a Masonic gesture.
Jackie: Pledging allegiance to a flag.
Alan: Yes, and of course, that trains you to jump up and hear the brass bands, and off you go to war. Whereas in
Britain, the people feared the military, because the military had always been used on the people at home. That was the
big difference. They had always been used on the people back home. They had the Drapers Riots in the 1700s, and in
the 1800s, when they started importing the cheaper stuff from India, and putting all the cotton mills out of business.
They had riots there, and they turned the British military on the people and had mass shootings in the streets. So,
Britain was well used to what a uniform meant, you know. See, uniform means one form. When they put on a uniform,
they are no longer an individual, they’re a robot who is part of the whole. Kind of like Legion, we are many, but we are
one, you know.
Jackie: Yes, well, think about this. They are actually considered, they are considered owned by the government.
Alan: They’re private.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, think, I think about the dog tags. Now, see, Alan, something just like that. I mean, we’ve heard
about dog tags forever. It never occurred to me, that you know, a dog tag is a tag you hang around a dog’s neck.
Alan: It’s the dogs of war, you know from Shakespeare.
Jackie: Okay, but a GI is government issue.
Alan: That’s right. Some would say a General Idiot, too. You’re privately owned. That’s what it means. You’re no
longer a member of the rest of the people. You’re a private. You start as a private. You’re owned body and soul. You
do what you’re told. You’re owned. That’s what it means. You don’t have any rights at all, that the general population
may have, even in common law. You’re now privately owned by the corporation. So, you start as a private. So, that’s
where that comes from. But Britain was so used to the dragoons and all the other big regiments being turned loose on
the public, that no, you did not worship the military, as they were trained eventually, again only in the 20th century, to
worship the military in America.
Jackie: And you know, you still see cars driving around here, with those little China-made American US flags on it.
And people hang them out in front of their homes. We had, you know, I’ve got a huge, tall flagpole across the road,
which I brought from Illinois. I was the same way. That flag, Old Glory, I loved it, Alan, because it meant so many
things to me, that were such lies. But the big laugh, the big joke on the American people after 9/11, and they were
selling those little flags, millions of them, and they came from China. China-made. And in case, any new listeners, that
might not have heard this or thought about it, but it isn’t an American flag. Think about it. When that flag was, was it,
during the Revolution. Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner still wave. The bombs bursting in air. It’s a war flag.
It’s a military, it’s a US government incorporated flag.
Alan: It’s actually deeper than that, because it’s a Masonic, Kabbalistic flag. And, you see, they had the first revolution
in England, and the English flag became the Union Jack, for Jacob, you know. Jack is also a levi, a lever. You jack
things up. You’re a priest. And, of course, you have the Illumined Man, the X over the Templar cross. So, it’s eight
pointed, you see. Eight is power and money. That’s what it means in Masonry. And it’s red, white, and blue. And it’s
red for fire and revolution and blood, and it’s also white for spirit, and of course the blue is the closest up from black
which is law, according to the Kabbalistic system. The next one in red, white, and blue, was America, and of course,
Canada was the same with the Union Jack. It’s changed now. And then the next one was France which became red,
white and blue. So, that’s their revolutionary colors, really.
Jackie: Somebody said that the US flag was taken from the British East…
Alan: India Company.
Jackie: East India Company.
Alan: Yeah, they had it, it’s on a famous, there’s a famous building in Hong Kong, the Palisade, and in there, I don’t
know if it’s still there, but they had an actual original East India Company flag. And it was like the early American one,
where you had a circle. America had a circle of 13 stars for the colonies, and 13, of course, is revolution and
regeneration, you see, in Masonry. That’s why they waited till they had 13.
Jackie: Well, I guess how they made their flag too, huh?
Alan: Yes, and then they had the stripes going across the way. So that was the East India Company’s flag.
Jackie: And, of course, it was just coincidence that there were thirteen colonies at that time.
Alan: And what gets me too, you see, is they’d already had international meetings in Europe, as to who was going to
bring in the next part of the system, for empire. And they couldn’t use any of the existing countries, because they were
all known by the rest of the world that was not yet invaded, as being tyrants and looters for a small clique in London and
in Paris, and so on. And so they dreamed up the idea of a new knight in shining armor, that was brand new, and
unconnected with the rest of them. And what happened in America was about 55 of the largest wealthy landowners in
America, who all had charters to own their land, by the way, from the British Crown, they had original charters from the
Crown, those guys, Washington and so on. And they got together in that building, and 33 of them of course, 33 signed
their name to it. And they were all high Freemasons. And they barred the general public from coming in. And then
they came out and said, we’ve given you a Constitution, you know.
Jackie: You’re talking about the Con Con.
Alan: What a joke. The general public had no input into it, whatsoever. It was a Masonic meeting. Franklin talked
about that, quite openly. And you even see Washington with the chair behind him, with the rising sun picture in the
background.
Jackie: Yep, in his chair. It’s still there at Independence Hall.
Alan: And they even barred the doors and had guards on it.
Jackie: They nailed the windows shut, Alan.
Alan: That’s because all temple lodges, it’s called the church with no windows. When they have a lodge meeting, they
must have that done. So, it’s such a farce. And that’s why Washington has got his big erection up there, over the water.
And the first new, large obelisk, copied after the Egyptians, over water. Fire over water, that’s what it stands for. The
male over the female.
Jackie: At the reflecting pool there. You mentioned Thomas Jefferson, and I had read in a bio of him, that he had
ordered an obelisk, you know, for his grave.
Alan: That’s right. And most of them did, actually. And when you go across the border, if you look between the
border, get off the main roads, and walk along the Canadian-US border, they marked it every half mile or so with a
Masonic obelisk about 12 feet tall, all along it. It was a Masonic arrangement made between the two groups, you know.
It’s all Masonic. So, that’s the big joke. And then, of course, Franklin, in his own memoirs, and Jefferson, both
repeated the same thing, that they saw this as the beginning of a Federation of the World. And they would start with the
Federation of the States of America, and that would be the beginning of a Federation of the World, led by Twelve Wise
Men. And that’s in their own writings, which surely they must have given you at school. Because that’s in their own
memoirs, you know.
Jackie: No, they didn’t give us that stuff at school.
Alan: Really?
Jackie: Oh, God, no, Alan.
Alan: What did they give you, John Wayne?
Jackie: They gave you dates and names and places. It was very dry. Maybe that’s why I kept falling asleep in history
class. Then after I got out of school, then I became thirsty, you know, for actually finding out what really did happen.
And you know, maybe, if there was a true hero, of this country, it would have been Andrew Jackson. Think about it.
You know, George Washington, what do you call, chartered the first bank. And that was a twenty-year charter. And it
was Andrew Jackson who refused to charter it. There’s a whole book written about that. Well, I mean that, the Coming
Battle. There’s a lot of information in there, about, my God, what they threatened if they didn’t get the charter to that
bank. And then they tried to, they tried an assassination. And I love that story. I don’t know if it’s true, but…
Alan: Well, what I do know too is, Jackson, and this is the thing too that’s going to happen to us. You see, they had to
push the American Indians into reservations. And that’s another M.O. of the same brotherhood down through the ages.
Jackie: And Jackson did that?
Alan: Well, Jackson helped along that. And, of course, Jackson also, they had treaties with the American Indians, up in
the Black Hills area, and of course, he wanted gold. And so, he started to encourage all the settlers to move in there, to
start the wars going with the Indians. And when they brought the trains through, Jackson put ads in all the European
newspapers for the big wealthy gentlemen, the sportsmen, he called them, to come over to the Americas, and they would
have these train rides through the prairies there, and along the Black Hills, and all the ammunition they could want, and
they would feed them and so on, at the taxpayers’ expense, and they killed thousands and thousands and thousands of
buffalo.
Jackie: Oh, they almost made them extinct.
Alan: And that was to get rid of the Indians’ food supply. That was intentional. That’s what it was for.
Jackie: Then I take it back. Maybe there is no “true hero” of this country.
Alan: Well, the ones who are heroes were probably dead and never mentioned.
Jackie: Yeah, the ones that were killed.
Alan: Yeah, they’d stand up and protest, or maybe they went for their rights, when they were in that blacked-out room
making up the charter there, maybe they came up with a protest, and had their throats slit Masonically. But that’s the
history. We’re living through a system which uses everybody, all the ordinary people. And they make no distinction
between the peasant of America, Canada, or China. If you’re not one of them in the upper nobility, you’re just a
peasant. You’re a world peasant. And other writers, including the Russells, and so on, Bertrand Russell, makes that
quite plain, you know. They have no identification with the ordinary people. When you look at what Washington came
out of the Revolution with, I mean, he came up with, he’d added 20-odd mile of land to his property, during the
Revolution. He was a busy guy, you know.
Jackie: Who was this?
Alan: Washington.
Jackie: He was. He was land rich.
Alan: He added about 20-odd square miles to his property during the war. And so, they were looking after themselves.
And they put all their Masonic symbols up, and people pass it all the time. It’s in all the movies, the obelisk and the
water, and there’s Lincoln sitting just like a statue of one of the pharaohs in this four square position, they call it, in his
big chair.
Jackie: And there’s in Springfield Illinois at the state capital, a big bronze statue of him, sitting in his chair. And his
nose is all shiny.
Alan: Oh, a shiny nose, eh?
Jackie: People come in there and they drop money into the little fountain there, and make a wish and rub his nose.
Alan: Oh really?
Jackie: And his nose is real pretty. You know, it’s, you know how, I guess it’s brass or copper, or…
Alan: Bronze, probably.
Jackie: Bronze, yeah. You know how it will begin to oxidize. So, his nose is real pretty. Because that’s what the
people do.
Alan: Well, that’s the thing. As I say, the Indians were first. The settlers made real estate out of jungles and wastelands
and swamps. Now it’s being taken from them. They’re to be put into their reservations, which are the human habitat
areas of the UN. So, everybody is used in turn for the agenda, always.
Jackie: And now they refer to the US as the empire.
Alan: Yes, and of course that started when Britain handed over the torch officially. And again, even going back to the
fifteen hundreds, John Dee and his buddy Francis Bacon, wrote about the New Atlantis arriving in the West, which
would continue carrying the torch, and sure enough, America took over the tax-paying part of it, and the military part of
it, to bring in the New World Order. Once it sinks, China is to be the policeman of the world. And that’s the way the
elite have formulated this plan. And they’ve written about it too.
Jackie: For, in case we have any new listeners, you know, I used to get angry when people, in fact when I was first
given the book that Ralph Boryszewski wrote, The Constitution that Never Was, I wouldn’t even read it, Alan. I said,
this is just another book that bashes our Constitution. …It’s a real hard pill to swallow when you’ve been born into that,
Alan. And I know it’s very hurtful, because it was. Well, look how ticked off I got at you. You wouldn’t acknowledge
that the Constitution was… I didn’t even want to talk to you for a while.
Alan: And of course, Canada, under Pierre Trudeau, got, for the first time, a charter of rights. And it’s right along the
same world agenda, where there’s no mention of private property ownership in the whole charter. And of course, Pierre
Trudeau, who became prime minister of Canada, who was also a Rhodes scholar, and a millionaire, because all the
millionaires run the Communist side, you see. The elite run Communism.
Jackie: Which is no different than international democracy.
Alan: Well, the same boys run both sides.
Jackie: Well, it’s all one and the same plan.
Alan: It’s the same families that run it. It’s the dialectic of pretending you have an enemy, pushing the public between
the two, squeezing them, until we come out with the synthesis, the third way.
Jackie: National Socialism, I guess.
Alan: Yeah. We’ve got a fascist elite running a communistic bureaucracy who run the people. That’s the synthesis.
That’s it. And of course, Pierre Trudeau led the Young Communist party of Canada, the Comintern, to Moscow in
1952. He helped with the setting up of the Charter for the United Nations, with Escott Reid and Pearson and Alger Hiss.
And then he became the Prime Minister of Canada, and not one newspaper mentioned that he was the leader of the
Comintern for Canada, the Communist International. And that’s because it’s all one and the same thing. Capitalism
and Communism are two sides of the same coin.
Jackie: Two sides of the same coin, yes.
Alan: And guess who owns the coin?
Jackie: Leading us to the third way.
Alan: So, the media is an essential arm of government. Without it, they couldn’t give us this fake reality, you know.
Jackie: Well, besides the media, don’t forget the entertainment and music industry.
Alan: That’s essential. In fact, they had a meeting in England in the 1970s, the early ’70s, with the Royal Institute of
International Affairs and CFR to decide which company and country would give the culture to the world, the coming
world, the New World, and they decided that Hollywood would be the culture creator.
Jackie: There we go.
Alan: For the world.
Jackie: We just got our one-minute warning here. So, is there anything that you want to say in about 40 seconds?
Alan: Yes. It’s not over yet, till the fat lady sings.
Jackie: Thank you, Alan. It ain’t until the fat lady sings. That is for sure. And this has been going on, down through
the ages. And they’re still at, and we’re still here.
Alan: We are.
Jackie: So there you go. Thank you for that. What a wonderful, what a wonderful final statement for this broadcast.
Folks, we’ll see you back Wednesday night, next. And thank you for being here, folks. Good night, Alan. Thanks,
honey.
Alan: Good Night.
Jackie: Good Night.
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” (Solo)
January 25, 2006
Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This isn’t Jackie as you can tell. She’s got a very bad cold. It’s Alan. Jackie phoned
me up about an hour ago and asked me to stand in for her. She’s got a guest there right now. Although next week she’ll
be on Monday, Tuesday herself and I think she’s going to talk about some information concerning World War I and the
Lusitania.
I have nothing planned of course. I never do. I generally just talk as to what comes into my head first and one topic that
was mentioned on the mainstream news last night was interesting and that was the border crossings between Canada and
the U.S.
The news reporter–this is mainstream television in Canada, the main reporter was at one of the crossings, and I’m not
sure if it was St. Catherine’s or down by Sault St. Marie, but you could see the traffic flowing through without problems
and she mentioned that. There were no real problems but there were some regular visitors that were shying away and
crossings had dropped because the people thought it was more of a hassle getting through either way. Then of course
they brought in the Ambassador to Canada from the U.S. and he said, well, it’s going to be even easier shortly because
with the new I.D. card he says you can just scan it through the machine and you’ll be straight through he said.
This new I.D. card which is to be mandatory by 2007, right now it’s actually voluntary. The new I.D. card will have
your iris scan. It’s got an active chip in it. It has your DNA in it recorded, your voice print, basically all information
about you that you probably don’t even know yourself. You’ll all be glad to know it’s going to be so much easier to get
through the border when they have everything about you on this card; and those people who’ve looked into the patent
rights of cards, it’s kind of like Monsanto with their seed.
Monsanto is in the business of taking all seeds that have been around for thousands of years and if no one’s patented
them they’re patenting them and so people who have those seeds now have to pay Monsanto because Monsanto has the
legal right, you see, and we know in this world legality is everything in the system.
When you give your digital image to these people they basically own your rights, so everything is on it about you, even
your DNA. I guess that means that legally they own your DNA as well and I’m not joking about this. That’s how
insidious and weird the true esoteric legal system is.
I should mention the day as well, this is the 25th of January 2006, and so there’s about a year left for this mandatory
eventually I.D. card to come in and you’ll all be so much safer and just buzz through so quickly and it’s all for our own
good, of course, because we obviously don’t know who we are.
I don’t know if they showed this in the United States. Probably not, because for a country that has more TV stations
than anybody in the world, they certainly do keep you in a box in the U.S., and we [Canada] have far, far more
mainstream news about what’s happening within the U.S. than they do in the U.S.
When Mr. Bush and Mr. Fox and Mr. Martin from Canada signed the “United Americas” last March it was shown here
for at least 2 minutes on the CBC and maybe 3 minutes on global news, but I don’t think anybody showed it anywhere
within the United States itself and that was an official joining of the Americas.
Having so much data in the media doesn’t mean they’re telling you anythingthat really matters and certainly, of course,
that’s the trick of it all. It’s the last thing someone would expect when you have such so-called “free media” that they’re
simply feeding you USELESS DATA and trivia generally or propaganda but seldom giving you any truth.
Of course, whatever governments have done in history, there’s always an esoteric for the public and the exoteric–they
sometimes give you the truth 50 years after an event and after the official secret act the time has expired and sometimes
they won’t. They’ll reclassify it for another 50 years.
For the “free trade negotiations” that were done back in the 80’s, they buried most of the contracts really between the
countries involved. That was the precursor to NAFTA and was actually more important than NAFTA because
PREAMBLEStell you the meanings of the wordsthey’ll be using in the actual official documents and they’re often very
different from the ones you think they actually meant. The free trade negotiations were classified and buried in some
underground bunker outside Ottawa and they won’t be opened for another 50 years or so.
By that time, if there are still people around who can think, which I tend to doubt to be honest with you, they’ll gladly
show it to you because a future generation doesn’t care what happened in ancient history. You know 50 years today is
ancient history and with the Dewey system well underway in the school system.
Any REAL HISTORY HAS BEEN PRETTY WELL CHOPPED OUTand it’s hard to find a student today around 16
who knows when World War I began and finished, never mind World War II, and who participated in it. THIS ISALL
BY DESIGN because they said that any conflicts that might go on down through the generations, because of racial
differences or whatever, would have to be removed from the history books. This has been going on under the National
Education Association, which is a part of the International Educational Association, and THE WHOLE WORLD HAS
BEEN STANDARDIZED TO THE SAME SYSTEM UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS.
We have lots of data to keep us occupied but there’s very little truth that we can use unless we really dig into it and use
our own REASONING POWER, because the BIG BOYS WILL NEVER COME OUT AND TELL YOU WHAT
THEY’VE REALLY DONE TO YOU, WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING TO YOU, AND WHAT THEY PLAN
TO DO TO YOU.
Since we are going along in a system which has been here for thousands of years where they have Good Shepherds.
Today, they wear business suits. Sometimes in past history they wore uniforms, like Adolph Hitler and Stalin and so on,
and we still have our friend in Cuba of course. Through the UNIFORM, which is “ONE FORM,” that’s what uniforms
mean – Masonics make “one form” out of many, “one” you see, and one system, one world, all of this kind of stuff.
You’ll find that in our minds we expect to see dictators or tyrants in a uniform who yell and scream at their audience
and gesticulate with wild gestures like Mussolini, and that’s why they keep showing us these old cuts every so often.
They seem to crop up all the time and that is to condition us this way, so when we see a guy in a business suit and he
doesn’t yell and scream (at least not publicly) we can’t see him as being a dictator or a tyrant; and it’s very misleading
because they can say things much, much worse than any tyrant has ever said publicly, in a nice gentle way, and the
viewers simply are not conditioned or they’re de-conditioned not to actually see what they’re seeing or hear what
they’re hearing.
I think Mr. Bush himself said that the Constitution of the United States was “just a piece of paper,” which is odd because
I said that on Jackie’s show back in ’98, and it is. No piece of paper can stand up and demand your rights. It’s the people
who back it and who want that to be so, who make it so, and if they don’t care, well they don’t care. It is a piece of
paper.
THAT’S THE REALITY OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
However, the GOOD SHEPHERDS as I say WHO RUN THE WORLD and it’s not the front men you see, the
shepherds; the true shepherds seldom go amongst the sheep. They pay their front men to do that and of course the sheep
like the shepherd. They think he’s a good guy. He wears a business suit and even the one in Communist China wears a
business suit.
These shepherds wear business suits and they have nice scripts because they have the best script writers in the world
who must have a common education from some strange underground university because they all advise their front men
in the same speeches and to PASS THE SAME LAWS WORLDWIDE AT THE SAME TIME. Yet WE NEVER
HEAR how come these advisers, who are UNELECTED of course, in any country, we never hear how they get these
positions or who trains them and who authorizes them to be where they are, but they do write good speeches. They’re
Hollywood type scripts, right down to the pauses that the presidents and the prime ministers make, even the little jokes
they sometimes tell – as anyone who watched the movie, “Wag the Dog” I’m sure saw.
We’re living in a Disneyland really, very much so and it isn’t simply because we’ve woken up into Disneyland.
Disneyland was here long before Disney.
The ancients knew and anyone who studied the history of India, ancient history, will come across certain princes who
moved into India. These are the ones who did call themselves the Aryan race, whom the Brahmans supposedly are
descended from, and they moved into the Dravidians – the name given to the people who were originally were there and
they knew which religions to use for the particular people they took over.
You’ll find fantastic planning going into the creation of religions specifically tailored for the inhabitants of different
areas of India. According to the culture they had at that time, they could actually adapt or tailor-make these religions for
the people and the people would in fact obey them. They would obey all the rules they were given because it seemed
fairly logical the way it was presented to them. The reason this formula worked then and it works today is that people
aretrained in one generationto listen today toEXPERTS.
In ancient times it was Holy Men and the Holy Men would be backed up with other priests. They would actually go out
amongst the people, teach one generation that the set of rules, the reasons why they must obey the rules because there
was a deity either watching them invisibly all the time. Or else, you know they went into the reincarnation thingwhere
you’re poor and destitutebecause you chose to be so and that’s why you’re in that position, but if you work really hard
and lick my boots and if you create anything at all, I want a cut of it or I want a share of it through money.
If you do these kind of things to one who is superior to you, you might just come back in a higher position the next time.
Strange as it sounds today, these religions worked very, very well for thousands of years for a SMALL ELITE RULING
GROUPand all they had to do was TRAIN ONE GENERATIONand that’s all they were taught.
They couldn’t READ OR WRITE. They believed priests and monks and so on, and they had TAILOR-MADE
RELIGIONSgiven to them, psychological warfare par excellence.
Nothing could be improved upon the last few thousand years; in the last hundred or more actually, they’ve been using
electronic backups and various other techniques, Pavlovian type indoctrinations to make us “LINEAR THINKING” as
THEY CALL IT. Linear thinking is the reason most people can’t ever figure out what’s really happening, even the ones
who think they’re waking up. They might catch on to the banking system or the Constitution’s going down the drain, or
we’re amalgamating, or we’re losing something, but they’re still really in the higher level of LEVEL ONE REALITY
because this planet is far beyond simple changes that are happening today. It’s far more occult than that.
Sciences are usedBEYOND THE COMPREHENSION of most people, apart from the very, very advanced electronics
which are used, there are other means of applying science or transmitting signals you might say; and where they are
scientifically, I don’t believe is just 50 years ahead.
I think the proof in Francis Bacon’s little Essay on the New Atlantis written in the late 1500’s and published in 1602,
where he goes into Solomon’s Island, which is actually Salomon’s Island. It’s a play on the word salmon for its red flesh
because the color of this agenda is ALWAYS RED. Francis Bacon talks about eventually in the last chapter about
getting into the UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS or LABORATORIES where he saw something powering the
“underground facilities” that GAVE OFF THE LIGHT OF THE SUN.
Now today we would say that’snuclear energy and then of course he talks about going into another lab where they have
a machine to control the weather and create hurricanes, storms, droughts, famines and earthquakes, which sound
suspiciously like HAARP today. Going on from there, he goes into the genetically modified vegetable and animal area.
He doesn’t use those terms.
He says where they take the most miniscule parts of life and work on them and create any kind of vegetable, or, he said,
animal – and IPRESUME HUMAN of course, that’s what you’re supposed to come to yourself – and they know exactly
how it will end up when they first start the stages of planning. In other words, they weren’t experimenting and doing it
for the first time.
When you get these kind of clues from someone who is living in the 1500’s, writing supposedly with beeswax candles
and the best form of transportation was sailing ships and canvas, or on land it was a horse and buggy, he’s coming up
with incredible stories which a crystal ball couldn’t have told them. He didn’t claim to be a medium, either.
Therefore, it would tell me they had these sciences; and of course to control the world for thousands of years–not just
control it, but this world’s been heading along a long set plan, a set agenda, for thousands of years, it would tell you that
THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW THE GENERAL POPULATION TO KNOW HOW FAR AHEAD THEY TRULY
ARE.
While the people of the Middle Ages were living in the Middle Ages, those who were controlling the Middle Ages were
probably living in what we might say in the 20th or 21st centuries with the sciences that they actually had; and so you
get these kinds of proofs popping up.
Lady Queensborough, who wrote about Freemasonry in the 1800’s, talked about one of her friends who I think was an
ambassador who went to the Grand Orient Lodge in France, prior to the telephone, met the Grand Master and that’s
after of course Benjamin Franklin was the Grand Master of the Grand Orient of France. They were having tea with a
silver tea set and he heard a ringing noise coming from the teapot. The guy pushed something. The lid came up and he
talked into it and he says, you’ll never guess where I’m talking to? It was some other country across an ocean, so THE
TELEPHONE WAS HERE. By the way, it was probably cellular because we don’t think they had wires laid at that
time. That came later on. These things were reported and observed back in the early 1800’s.
Lord Rothschild was also reported to have his little ventriloquist box. They had cartoons in British newspapers and
that’s what he always pulled out when he was making these big deals such as taking over the Bank of England, because
he just knew who won the battle before anyone else did. He liked to talk to himself into this little box you know. Of
course, the official version is he had vast fleet of clipper ships that got there before anyone else got the news and then a
horsemen rode to London told him who won. He dumped his bonds. Everyone thought that the British had lost and then
he bought them all up for peanuts – all very legal, which is always a strange thing I’ve noticed in this system. NO
MATTER HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE, THEY TEND NOT TO BREAK LAWS BECAUSE THEY WRITE THE
LAWS SO THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT BASICALLY.
Certainly very immoral, but then again if we look at the rule book, which is Old Testament, we have to admit that the
old god blessed Jacob for conning his own father into believing that he was really the brother in order to get the
blessings. The old father was blind and half deaf and so he dressed up like his brother with a woolskin shirt and brought
him his favorite bowl of soup and stew and so on, and then got the blessings and he ended up supposedly being charged
with the 12 tribes – which doesn’t mean 12 tribes at all and JACOB DOESN’T MEAN JACOB. Jacob was the sun and
the tribes were the constellations; that’s really what it meant, and so he’d broken through into the light to the sun. He
became as the sun, and that’s the test of the very highest pinnacle of freemasonry when you hit 360 degrees because
that’s what it takes to go around the circle.
Anyway, we’ve been lied to, conned mightily for thousands of years. Every generation has been brought up to believe
they’re on the CUTTING EDGE. When they were dying like flies in factories during the Industrial Revolution in
Europe when the plague carts went around to collect the dead who DIED OF OVERWORK and malnutrition, often for
working 16 hours per day, including Sundays, by the way. The day off on Sunday came much, much later, but the
people in those days thought what else could they do. It’s just the way it was. That’s how we’ve evolved, as they would
say in Darwinistic circles, you can help the poor so much but what else can you do for them?
What they don’t tell you is that Mr. Rothschild once he’d taken over the Bank of England – and personally I believe he
was brought in by the elite already in Britain to run it more efficiently – when he was created Lord Rothschild he passed
the Corn Laws Act, where you could bring in foreign corn and so on and dump it on the British market. It put all the tiny
landowners out of business. They were forced then to go into the cities because that’s where THEY WANTED THEM
so they could WORK the FACTORIES and everything happens you find in this order.
There’s no happenstance to anything. The people are coerced. THE WORLD IS PRE-PLANNED.THE DESTINY OF
THE WORLD IS PRE-PLANNED THEN AS IT IS NOW and whatever you think is happening now, you’re generally
wrong.
The media’s job – the mediameans “THE MIDDLE”. Pyramid is of course “fire in the middle” too. It’s the fire between
the capstone and the rest of the world, meaning the body; and the media’s job is to communicate certain data to you to
shape your mind on an ongoing basis into expecting the next move, which will seem perfectly natural to us by the way it
is explained.
The fact that for instance the New American Century published their agenda in the 1990’s beginning with an attack on
Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Iran and then Syria, in that order. The fact that we did hit Afghanistan first after 9/11, the
EMERGENCY NUMBER, COINCIDENTALLY of course, and then go into Iraq. During an inquiry Mr. BushDID
ADMIT on Canadian television at least that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the Twin Tower bombing, he was
just a bad guy that was in the way and the world was better off with him removed. Now of course they’re beating the
war drums for Iran.
I’m sure they have their own men in Iran because each time he says something about the New World Order or Israel,
I’m sure the population are quivering in fear because why would a man bring on disaster when the world’s biggest army
is right next door to him ready to move in?
Why would he do this? Until you realize that the old assassins–the assassins were called “Hashishin” [or, Hashshashin]
and that’s where the world “hashish” comes from, since that’s what they basically lived on. That was in the Middle East
and the Knights Templars in fact joined forces with the assassins and became one. Therefore, I’m pretty sure this guy
who’s in charge of Iran and is making these big noises right now at the most inappropriate time is one of their own, and
if anything does happen, I’m sure he’ll be picked up or smuggled out, one way or another, before all hell breaks loose.
You’ll find that’s how the game is truly played, because wars, as Professor Carroll Quigley said:
“Wars are not intended simply to beat another people, they’re primarily to change the culture of all the participants.”
Therefore, it’s the little people who have to change in the aftermath of war. It changes the culture, such as Britain when
it came out of World War II–it went into World War II to fight national socialism and ended World War II as a national
socialist country. That’s how it changed it. The BIG BOYS understood that. That was their goal. It’s hard for the
average person to ever figure out how it happened and how it came about, because that was THE PLANin the first
place.
Hitler wanted a united Europe. Winston Churchill we’re told now with declassified documents by his personal secretary
50 years after the official Secret Act is up, Churchill spoke many times about a UNITED EUROPE coming out of
World War II. Regardless who they decided to win, it literally united Europe anyway.
It’s the SHEEPwho must be conditioned for the changes. Not the people who LEAD US to the CHANGES, but the
people themselves.
I hear the break coming up, so I’ll keep quiet now while the music plays when it comes on. I may have a minute left
here. Anyway, Jackie will be back next week as I say on Monday and Tuesday and I think she’s going to talk about the
Lusitania, which, when sunk, helped to get the United States eventually into World War One.
PART 2:
Hello, this is Alan Watt here standing in for Jackie Patru. She will be back on Monday and Tuesday, maybe Wednesday
too, by herself doing a talk on the Lusitania, World War I. I’ve been just going through these things that float through
my head of course and that’s why I prefer not to be a linear thinker.
To be a linear thinkeris to show that your conditioning through schooling has worked because linear thinking is
obviously to do with what they call LOGICand SET FORMATS where you look at a subject. You find out why the
subject is the subject, what caused it to be so, what its purpose is, where does it go from here, et cetera, et cetera. It’s a
MATHEMATICAL SEQUENCE so when you’re given a problem you think linearly and you come to the conclusion
really that’s programmed for you to come to, which is always the wrong one.
IT KEEPS US IN THE DARK. If you’re non-linear you can think–you canjump back and forth between various topics
and time and history because it all must be shown together how everything that’s happening today is simply a lead up,
or was led up to, by preparations from thousands of years ago. I put some of this in my three books for sale and I should
mention them now.
I do some of the ancient history, the pre-Masonic but still the builders, of course, history of ancient Egypt et cetera. I
show you much of the Masonic symbolism, although that’s being co-opted by one of the main superstars of shortwave
who’s adopted this kind of stuff because they must get themselves put as the superstars so you’ll be led up the garden
path; but it doesn’t matter anyway because they NEVER GIVE YOU ANY OF THE ESOTERIC MEANINGSanyway.
If you want one or any of these books, or all three, [see www..com for ordering information].
These books as I say go up through that. The third book goes into that as well. I show you the big coincidences in
history such as the Statute of Rhodes, which was the capital of the BIG BANKING BOYS thousands of years BC, and
the Statute of Rhodes of course had the sun god with the spikes coming out of his head. He had his right hand out. Some
ancient historians say he held a torch there. There was definitely a beacon there and of course people today will say,
gee, that’s a similarity to the Statue in New York, quite near Rhodes in fact, isn’t it? That must be coincidence, mustn’t
it?
You’re seeing the same symbols of UNBROKEN POWER from thousands of years ago up until today and you can’t put
it all together. That’s quite something because these symbols have been used all down through history through every
religion on the planet, every authorized religion, and the esoteric is ALWAYS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC or the
PROFANE as they call it. It’s also HIDDEN from the lower degree Freemasons because you must have “willing fools,”
as Mr. Pike said himself, who don’t know that they’re fools. They think they’re there for charity and to do self-help
work and all that kind of stuff.
THAT’S HOW THE WORLD REALLY RUNS.
Everybody’s in their little pigeon hole or a tunnel and they don’t know that there’s another tunnel next to them and
there’s a whole bunch of tunnels next to them. They only live in their own little tunnel from the day they are born to the
day they die.
It’s very interesting if we even go back to the times of Sumer, you’ll see the statues of the priests of Sumer and it’s very
interesting that they wore the sheepskin skin around their loins, and of course it’s the same today. The proper Masonic
pinafore, the apron, is also made of sheepskin (at least the good ones are); and of course you’ve got to ask yourself if
there’s a wolf behind the sheep here, or is that just Viagra? because these guys love to boast and they certainly do.
We have the same symbology down through the ages of the shepherd people, you see, the sheepskin, those who wear
the sheepskin and they make the SHEEP AROUND THEM believe they’re ONE OF US. We don’t realize the
shepherd’s VERY DIFFERENT FROM US because the SHEPHERD ACTUALLY OWNS US and we feed him and we
clothe him. If the sheep knew that, they’d run a mile when they saw the shepherd, but of course the SHEEP DON’T
KNOW THAT. They see business suits and well dressed people who are obviously EXPERT at running things and so
we like them, just like the sheep, no different than ancient times.
We give it all to the GOOD SHEPHERDS who are PROMOTED to us, so that we might follow them. The only DUTY
you have as a citizen in any country and you’ve got to realize a CITIZEN–the definition is “someone born into a system
with preexisting duties.”
In other words, IF YOU HAVE PREEXISTING DUTIES, HOW CAN YOU BE FREE? You see? It takes a little bit of
thinking there, but we can overcome that barrier, and so we have preexisting duties. Of course, part of that is ALWAYS
TO PAY OFF DEBT, even though Benjamin Franklin, a member of the illuminati, who gives you a lot of the clues, they
speak openly because I guess they have to really give you very easy, easy clues. Jefferson said:
“A generation born into paying off the debt incurred from the previous generation are de facto slaves.”
Today, we call it DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM, so it’s quite amazing how we can be told the truth by some of the
“illumined ones” down through history and we think, “well, so what, everything is fine, I’m okay Jack. How are you?”
WE IGNORE THE TRUTH.
Yes, from the sheepskins of the ancient Sumerian priests, you look at the Pharaohs of Egypt and they wore a cloth
around them. You also see it was hung in the middle in a pyramid type shape from below the belly button down to
above the knees like a kilt and of course he wore that type because he’s a perfect pyramid. He is at the top of the
pyramid actually. The ones below would have to have ones with the flat square because they don’t have a capstone.
Nothing has really changed to today.
What we call “Freemasonic” is to SHAPE and BUILD CULTURE and SOCIETY and MAN HIMSELF. We look at the
ancient builders of the medieval times and when they were building up a cathedral, they were also dismantling the old
one; so they dismantle the past as they’re putting up the new structure. This goes on and on through all the symbology.
Eventually THEY WILL RESHAPE MAN and it’s not that far off. They’ve got the ability to do it. It’s not because
they’re waiting to improve the abilities to do it that they’re hanging on. They’re getting us all ready mentally and
psychologically to ACCEPT the BIG CHANGES that are coming in a PHYSICAL REALM, because they’ve
ALWAYS said THEIR JOB was to “perfect that which was left imperfect.”
The guide to Solomon’s Temple is the individual “enlightened one” is the temple, you see. You are a temple, but it’s
IMPERFECT FOR THE MASSES and therefore they’re going to perfect it. The next type of working type of people
they will create will be purposely made for their tasks, just like Brave New World.
Aldous Huxley DID NOT get his ideas from again a crystal ball. Aldous Huxley was the grandson of Professor Thomas
Huxley, who was Charles Darwin’s best buddy and he became the champion of Darwinism after Darwin died. Aldous
Huxley got his information from inner circles of the ELITE in Britain from the universities and simply wrote them into
his books.
He said on his speeches that he knew this would be put into operation, the Brave New World scenario where they will
purposely grow people for a specific tasks and here’s another BIG COINCIDENCE.
We jump back to Plato’s Republic, when Plato in his discourse talks about the creation of a perfect world state where
the guardian class won’t have to utilize so much time and energy to watch all the workers and slave populations because
they will purposely make the SLAVE POPULATIONS for their own particular functions. That was called The Republic
and that was his form of a utopia. Utopia to them is when they don’t have to give you entertainment, distractions,
frivolous wars, that type of thing, dramas, plays, music to entertain us. They won’t have to. We’ll be very, very efficient
because they’ll program people after creating them to do their work 24 hours a day. They won’t need entertainment.
Platohimself DID NOT dream up that idea, since Plato was a pupil of Socrates. Socrates of course was forced to drink
the hemlock after being convicted and his conviction was they he tried to – he’d been recruiting the elite youth and
training them through a secret society to infiltrate the power structure and cause revolution. Socrates and Plato both
studied this in Egypt and so you look back at Egypt and you find all of these elite people who went to study there were
initiated into the high mystery religions. Then they were sent back to their original countries to set up these little cult
groups and train the youth through fascinating stories, which is the same today, of the supposed esoteric (but they don’t
tell them the esoteric) and fomenting revolution – all must become one.
“Out of many, one.” Reverse it = One out of many. You might also say “monopoly”. Mono = one, Poly = many, and
that’s what the United States has been famous for is the creation of monopolies, “E Pluribus Unum”.
This has always been their agenda. You see it all down through history if you care to look. It is not a coincidence and
we’re dealing with something here which is obviously, very obviously does not think in completing any ONE THING in
a LIFETIME, a human span. We’re dealing with SOMETHING which can make incredible plans thousands of years
into the future, right down to the finish dates too; and IT obviously also always knew the wisdom of the past, meaning
the study of human nature, for thousand of years in ancient times, to plan out a destination to bring mankind culminating
into a world order, a New World Order, which of course in a coincidence Papa Bush mentioned September 11, 1990.
All these coincidences are just tripping us up everywhere.
We’re dealing something which is beyond simply the human. It does teach humans as well, of course, the little workers
they have, in a religious format because there’s a religion behind this – a definite religion. That’s what motivates natural
man is DEDICATION TO A RELIGION, especially when it gives members SPECIAL PRIVILEGESin this world; but
whatever is behind it, as we know, doesn’t worry about dying in a generation or so, that’s fairly obvious.
It’s also obvious that humans are not apt to plan something a generation ahead and carry it out. Other things crop up.
Finances have to be pushed elsewhere. Unexpected things happen and people just get plain tired of it. There’s
SOMETHING HERE DRIVING THIS GENERATIONbetween one to the next to the next and the next.
If we look at the cathedrals of England and Europe, we realize that these cathedrals took five to seven generations of
stone masons to build through famines, through plagues, through crusades where the money was getting taken to go off
abroad, massive money from the public and yet this AGENDA to build the cathedralsNEVER CEASED. Never ceased
and architects today – trained architects to go over to study these cathedrals in Europe are flabbergasted at the sciences
which were used to bring these inner dome vaults et cetera together. I don’t know how many of them, I’m sure the
Masonic ones did, but I don’t know how many of them noticed that really these arches within these cathedrals and their
big beams and all the rest of it are simply a sculptured form of nature, because it’s showing you a grove. These
cathedrals inside simulate the tree grove it seems and the ability to put all of this work together, incredible creations, is
almost beyond the modern architect and builders societies and so on. They couldn’t do it so well.
We’re living with all of these amazing coincidences and we’re taught at school we’re on the cutting edge of science and
civilization and who knows what we’ll discover next that’s going to push us in a great leap forward. When in reality, the
sciences that are HIDDEN FROM THEPUBLIC HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR AT LEAST 500 YEARS AND
PROBABLY LONGER.
We look at the explosion of micro-circuitry that first appeared in wristwatches back in the 1970’s, which flourished
overnight. The markets in all countries were dumped with these cheap watches which were battery operated and kept
perfect time, digital readouts and all the rest of it, and played about three or four different tunes et cetera and put the
Swiss watch making businesses out of business OVERNIGHT. I saw many of my friends buying them and what
amazed me was none of them were stunned as to where this technology had suddenly come from. They take it for
granted. You see, most people take everything that happens for granted. THEY DON’T QUESTION IT.
Most people alive today lived through the BIG TRANSITION of all the major industry in the world over the last 15
years to China and yet very few were conscious of it. They dreamed through it and now they simply think it’s normal
that everything is made in China. People don’t really live through their life.
Living means being a sentient being. Sentient is awareness and PEOPLE WHO DON’T ASK QUESTIONS are
obviously NOT AWARE; and Plato, jumping back then in non-linear thinking, of course, Plato himself said, “we create
culture.”
He said we can give opposites–he’s talking about the elite of course in ancient times. He says, “ALL CULTURE
COMES FROM THE TOP.” Culture that came out from the bottom could upset, have a ripple effect and destroy
everything, the unpredictable, you see, so all cultural changes are from the top down; they’re permissible and
PLANNED BY THE TOP and implemented and of course the people who see the culture changes through generally
music according to Plato.
Today it’s much music. Then it was just roving musicians. They had roving troops of drama players and of course he
said “people mimic what they see on stage.” The general public generally mimic what they see, the fashions and so on.
Plato said, we can literally change the culture and all of its values in a completely opposite direction within one
generation and in that generation there will hardly be one person who was actually conscious through the transition; and
that is true today. It’s no different today.
The public go through the transitions WITHOUT NOTICING them, even if the skirt goes from the ankle to halfway up
the thigh in one generation. It’s somehow normal and it’s normal because it’s approved from the top, because anything
that was not approved from the top, believe you me, would be nipped in the bud before the public even heard about it. If
you wonder why pop stars who help bring in the drugs, sex, rock-n-roll, which eventually destroyed what was left of the
family, were getting knighted by the Queen.
You know theBeatles “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds,” LSD, who turned on millions of people into drugs got
KNIGHTED for helping what? What did they help in the system? What we know is of course that they had to destroy
the remnants of the family unit by creating promiscuity, which they’d planned in the 1800’s.
H.G. Wells was promoting “Free Love” they called it in 1885. Free love—but they didn’t have the contraceptives and
the fallout was disastrous, so they went back to the drawing board and had all the scientists work on the contraceptive
pill, so they put that out forward with the National Health Service, which gave you free abortion and penicillin for the
diseases, and we applied it, using music, the traditional Plato thing, you see. Fashion, the mini-skirt and formulas. These
are simple formulas and they worked very well. The public didn’t notice the change. They never thought why did it
come this way. Where does fashion come from? Who authorizes fashion? And fashion remember means “to shape,” so
it’s Masonic you see as everything else in this world is.
Uniform as I say–people in uniform are “one form” and that’s why armies have been created for thousands of years and
once again you’ve got many acting as one. They’re drawn from the ranks of the people at the bottom. “Drilled,” just like
miners in a sense, because that’s where drilling comes from. Square bashing – it’s Masonic so they walk the square. The
drill on the square and they are “one form” when they are ready and they’ll do whatever they’re told, even if it means
going and bashing the parents on the skulls with the butt of the guns, they will do it, because all of this is done before
down through history. Here is this music coming, so I guess the time is growing to a head. Well, I’ll end with that rant
and it’s been pleasure to talk to you. It’s non-linear thinking, which I enjoy of course.
(Transcribed by Linda)
June 7th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Alright, well, we’re going to get started here. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and thank you for
joining us on Sweet Liberty. I’m with you tonight with Alan again, Alan Watt. Today is Wednesday and it is the 7th of
June. I almost said May, Alan. It’s the 7th of June in the Year 2006 folks. Our spiritual message this evening, “There
is no veil the love of God in us together cannot lift. The way to truth is open. There is no veil the love of God in us
together cannot lift. The way to truth is open.” It is too, isn’t it, Alan?
Alan Watt: Yeah, sometimes you need a crowbar.
Jackie: Yes. Yeah, you’re the crowbar.
Alan: That’s it. And you’ve got to do a lot of huffing and puffing.
Jackie: HR, what was that bill we wanted to mention?
Alan: I think it was 4752IH.
Jackie: 4752IH. Folks I know there are a lot of, I understand, a lot of other broadcasters talking about this, and we’re
not going to spend the evening on it, but I wanted to bring it up for those of you who might not listen to a lot of other
broadcasts. This bill, HR4752IH, I don’t know what the IH stands for Alan, but that’s the way it was listed on the
Thomas, on the government website. And folks, this is a bill that is proposing to draft all men and women in the United
States between the ages of 18 and 42. Men and women between the ages of 18 and 42, and you know Alan, the way the
bill reads, I was going to print it out. It isn’t a real long one, and share it with our listeners, but our internet listeners can
go to the Thomas site and put that bill number in and it will pull it up. But it’s, those who don’t go directly into the
military would be drafted to do some type of “community service”. And basically, we’re just talking slave labor here
Alan.
Alan: I think it’s stated as or serve at home or other. In other words it didn’t specify what the other is.
Jackie: Exactly. Exactly. It’s wide open. And I just, the important thing here folks is those of you who have young
children or teenage children, it doesn’t matter, they should never sign up for the draft. They should never register for
the draft. And when the card comes it says that you have to do this it’s the law. And then if you read the frequently
asked questions, well, what would happen if I didn’t register for the draft, it says, Alan, you may be fined, and you may
go to jail for whatever. They don’t. They can’t jail you. And then they say you can never get a government grant. See,
that’s the big deal. That is the hook, and that is the only hook. And of course, there are many states and this happened,
it’s happened some time ago, that have actually added the requirement that if a young person goes in to get a drivers
license, they have to sign up for the draft. Their registering to get a drivers license is considered registration for the
draft. And if they aren’t willing to sign that, they don’t get a drivers license. Now, this to me should have people stop
and think, well, if it is a federal law, why do the states have to do this? And you see, to me, that’s just more
confirmation. But the Selective Service Act is under Title 50, and Title 50 is not what they call positive law. There’s
no legislation that has. It’s the same as Title 26 which is the, or may Title 27 is the IRS, is that, you know, the income
tax, but there’s no implementing legislation for that. And they used Title 26 to implement the income tax. They use all
the implementing legislation under Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
Alan: And what’s even more ominous is the fact that they’re going to, or that they want to put this draft through,
because it tells you it’s not just to do with Iraq. See, it’s much bigger. And it’s an ongoing thing that they’re looking at
obviously when they need so much human power there, to do their job, which could last for who knows how long,
donkey’s years.
Jackie: Well, you know I had a call from Bob Peters just before we went on air. And he was listening to Al Adask,
who’s on First Amendment Radio, just prior to this broadcast. And he said, Al was talking about, you know, contractual
law and etc. And I said that I wanted to mention this draft bill. He said that, you know, Al, he believed Al had been
talking about it also. And what Al was mentioning Alan was that they’re talking about sending prisoners over to Iraq.
Alan: Oh, okay. Well, that’s quite, see, that’s what they did in Britain for centuries. They would draft them right from
the prison. In fact, the courts at one time, even on petty offenses used to give you the choice of joining the army or
going to jail. That was quite standard in Britain. So, I guess it’s the same system.
Jackie: You know, I was thinking about that with all these illegal aliens. How many of them do you think have been
drafted into the military, Alan?
Alan: That’s open in fact. They’ve had that in major newspapers. They’ll give them citizenship if they serve so many
years in the military. And even in the Civil War, they had scouts out in Europe and Scandinavia to recruit people to
come over and fight in the Civil War. So, there’s nothing really new in that.
Jackie: No, nothing new in it, but it’s new in our time right now, isn’t it? Although, I have a book here, in fact it was
mentioned in Doug Reed’s book, controversy of Zion, and I was able to find the book. And now, I cannot recall the
name of the book, but I was able to get it through Abe books. And it was a woman who wrote the book, who had served
in the United Nations after WWII, and she was in one of the internment camps, or they don’t call them internment
camps but relocation camps. And mostly, all that were in the camps where she was were Poles. And she said that some
of them were actually killing themselves rather than go home, because the Soviet Union, of course, had control over a
lot of, you know, their living space. And they just wouldn’t go home. They would hang themselves and cut their wrists
and do anything. But what they were trying to do was find homes for these people. And she couldn’t figure out why
the US wouldn’t let any of these people in, because a lot of the countries were. They were taking healthy people,
healthy people that they knew would be able to get work and not become a ward of the state. And so there were some
requirements, but many, many people were finding homes in other countries. Well, then the Korean War came, Alan.
And suddenly the US government opened up its arms to those Poles, and the requirement was, it was right in her book,
they had to serve two years over in Korea, and then they could come to America. So, they were willing to risk their
lives in a war to come to the land of plenty. The land of the free and the home of the brave. So, that is in our lifetime in
a sense. It’s very recent history. And we were having a conversation last night, and I said, I think we better quit this
right now, because our listeners need to be in on this conversation, and would you share with them what you were
discussing.
Alan: It was about the global warming I think, wasn’t it. Yeah, it was, the global warming is a weird, we all parrot this
because it’s said all the time, it’s mentioned in so many articles as though it’s a fact, you know. And we do know from
even in school, when I was about seven, it was in the old geography books at the time, that the earth goes through
warming and cooling periods. And in the Middle Ages for two hundred years at one point, they didn’t build fireplaces
inside the homes because it was so warm. So, we go through these cycles. However, with the global warming, you’ve
got to think the South Pole would be melting too. How come it’s all to do with the North Pole melting? And then I
thought about the Star Wars project. Everyone has forgotten about it. But they put I don’t know how many of these war
type satellites into space, which can basically fry any continent if they want to. And when you look at what we’re told,
that the Pole is melting and it’s all slipping into the sea, and since the prevailing wind across America and Canada, the
US and Canada comes from the West, technically we should be cooling as this colder water, or the ice hits the water and
cools the water.
Jackie: Oh shoot, it would, wouldn’t it?
Alan: Yeah, it should bring it across the land. And yet, the land is warming at the same speed, if not more, which would
tell me that something is basking the Northern hemisphere, at least this part in something which is causing the heat. The
land as well as the sea. But it’s not affecting the Antarctica.
Jackie: Well, then we have the connection, when you had said at the one time, and folks, I don’t, if you haven’t seen
Alan’s videos at his website at .com, it’s linked from Sweet Liberty also, but if you haven’t seen it. What is the name of
that last one? The one about the clouds, Alan?
Alan: It was Peeping Through the Clouds.
Jackie: Peeping Through the Clouds. You, sometimes when you would talk, and this has been going on for so long, and
you’d say, oh my God, are they spraying again. And how mushy the sky looked. And we just don’t, we do get sprayed,
but nothing like you were describing. And then you said, last year, the high temperatures made probably, I don’t know
how high they broke the record, but where you’re at, to get up to 115 degrees in the summer is an anomaly.
Alan: It certainly is.
Jackie: And you had mentioned, that you thought the possibility is that they’re using the HAARP technology. And that
you’re right in the path of it. And that that would be why you’re having the warmer weather. And then when I was
talking to a friend about it, and all of the spraying, I couldn’t figure out Alan, why are they spraying out in the wilds up
there. And he said, probably, that’s why they’re spraying so heavily, because of the barium. And you explained that,
that those metals are actually light refractors, and heat refractors of the sun. And so now, I don’t know, it just all makes
sense to me.
Alan: Yeah, see the only way their theory that they try to spin it, we might be trying to save the planet. We get these
little hints. We may be trying to do things about it. They’re maybe going to start weather manipulation to stop global
warming. This is in the newspapers. And they’ve been doing it for years. And the patents go back for donkey’s years,
anybody that wants to check out the different patents on all this stuff. And this theory of reflecting the sunlight back out
into space, would only work if the particles somehow were weighted so that the shiny part is facing the sun. But it’s
not, you see. These things are spinning and tumbling, and they’re mirrors, and they’re reflecting the light back and forth
millions of times before they hit the ground and it’s keeping the heat in. That’s just it. It’s doing the opposite. So,
they’re causing the global warming.
Jackie: Well, the thing is, we can’t even count on what they’re telling us, that there is global warming. I mean, you
know, all the floods and the droughts and everything, and even when it gets extremely. We had freezing weather on the
22nd of May. And frost on the 23 of May. That isn’t warm, Alan. But they say, oh, well it’s all part of global
warming. And I know I’ve said this before. I am going to repeat myself, because I do know that we have quite a few
new listeners, since you’ve been on Coast to Coast. But, Professor Patrick Michaels is the guy that, the professor in
Virginia, University of Virginia, I believe. I happened to hear him talk at an ALEC meeting, the American Legislative
Exchange Council, which is an association for allegedly conservative state legislatures. And he was talking to the State
Legislatures. He had overheads. He said first of all that not only is there not global warming, now, this was ten years
ago, but he said, not only is there not global warming, but the real temperatures are showing that the means nighttime
temperature is slightly higher. He says, that makes for a very lush planet. But he said, they take artificial readings, and
they take those readings where you’ve got a lot of tarmac, like from the airports and that.
Alan: In the cities.
Jackie: Yeah, it’s artificial heat. And he said, now with the satellites, they know what the temperature is. And at that
time, anyway, there wasn’t any global warming going on. But one thing he pointed out, as cold as it is at the Poles, they
say, well, if the temperature drops one degree, we’re going to have global warming and it’s going to do all kinds of
terrible things. He said, if it’s 45 degrees below zero and it goes up one degree, it’s still at freezing. And it’s just, none
of what they’re saying in other words, it just doesn’t, it doesn’t fly.
Alan: There’s a funny science program going on. And there’s no doubt it’s all to do with Science, plus, every effect
they’re talking about can be caused by the HAARP in conjunction with the spraying. And that’s the ominous part about
it. We see the spraying going on all the time. And they admit in the HAARP treaty that they signed at the UN not to
use it on other countries. They admitted they can cause drought or flood, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and they
can also dissipate natural clouds or create them. They can do one or the other.
Jackie: Droughts or floods.
Alan: I’ve seen both happen. Sometimes the sky will turn black, and you’re sure you’re going to get a thunderstorm,
and then you hear the jets above them, and within an hour, it’s all cleared up and it’s this steely misty polymer type
blue. So, they can do either. They can cause that or dissipate the clouds. And also, it’s in the treaty too. They can
bring the jet stream right down to ground level. Well, the jet stream loops right where I am, and goes back down into
the States. So that’s why they’re using this part to spray heavily. It carries it all the way back down into the States. It
covers a wide area.
Jackie: And the satellites. I made a note here, because when you mentioned, you know, the Star Wars, Jim McCanny,
when he was on with us after Katrina. He said that they literally were steering the hurricane, and of course, you know,
either the way the Weather Channel, the way the weather reporters, they’re showing these hurricanes making turns.
Alan: I know, right-angle turns.
Jackie: Yes. And he said that they’re doing it from the satellites, and he said basically what they’re doing is beaming
the electromagnetic energy down, right in front of the eye of the storm. And it attracts the eye of the storm, and they
just lead it around, like you’ve got a ring through a pig’s nose.
Alan: In fact, if you superheat the atmosphere in front of it, it attracts it, just like a magnet.
Jackie: Right, exactly. That’s what he said. And they can make it go any dog-gone place they want. And so, this
makes sense too, you know, that that technology is part of it all.
Alan: It is. And of course, they’ve tested out maybe three years ago, there was, it was in the newspapers, this odd series
of meteorites that went across the sky from Canada into the States. And from Vancouver I think, all the way down into
Washington. And they said it set off fire alarms across the whole territory. Not fire alarms, car alarms, with explosions.
Then the next day they had all these experts on trying to tell us what it was, what they thought it might be. It was all
very vague, except they thought it was probably some kind of strange meteor. And there was nothing more said about
it. But it was a series of explosions in the air. And then, in Australia, a week later, they had the same phenomenon
happening over one of their major cities, exactly a week later. And what they were doing, I think, is using the satellites
to superheat the atmosphere which explodes that part they’re concentrating on. And that’s what they really have been
doing. Tesla, himself, stopped his tests with the standing wave technology, because he said, it would be possible to
superheat the atmosphere to such an extent you could cause a flash fire across the globe.
Jackie: Yes, and he said he could split the earth in two.
Alan: So, this is what they’re up to. It’s advanced sciences that are at play here. We’re kept in a level one matrix,
where the news gives us our supposed facts, but there’s higher levels above all of that. And we never get told even the
second level until fifty years later. Yeah, that’s standard. So, it’s high, high technology at work.
Jackie: So, how’s your weather right now, speaking of the weather.
Alan: Well, there was a deluge a couple of hours ago. And it’s stopped now, but it’s coming down just like a Monsoon.
Jackie: Well, one of the things that, you know, I noticed this several years ago, when we had the summer sun. This
would have been probably around 2000, 2001. The sun was so extremely hot. And even if it was 80 degrees it wasn’t
the heat, it wasn’t the heat in the air, it was the heat of the sun hitting you. And I noticed this. And then I would
mention it to people, and a lot of people agreed, you know, that they had noticed the same thing. It was abnormally hot.
And how would they do that Alan? Would that have to do with the spraying too?
Alan: Oh, I’m sure of it, I mean, I notice when they’re really spraying heavily, and there’s different kinds of sprays.
You’ll see them. There’s a long white ones that end up sort of like herring bone that’s splayed across the sky. And
there’s other types that are a sort of light pale blue. That’s the polymer types. It’s like looking through a plastic, clear
plastic barrier, you know, vapor barrier type. That’s what it looks like from the sky. And these light blues ones spread
very quickly and create the polymer type effect. So, there’s different kinds that they are spraying across, sometimes in
conjunction with each other at the same time.
Jackie: Something I wanted to say here, just as a consideration for our listeners. I don’t know who I was talking to the
other day, and they said that evidently, I don’t know where the information came from, so I was just told this, that 70%
of the sunscreen today had chemicals in them that are known to be carcinogenic. And I just wanted for our listeners to
maybe do a little bit of research on this. Be careful what you’re putting on your skin, folks. When we’re talking about
summertime, people believe that if they lather themselves up with sunscreen they’re going to be okay, and it’s just like,
you know, the mosquito stuff with that D in it, whatever that, it’s killer stuff. And so, folks, don’t think just because
you’re putting sunscreen on that you’re necessarily protecting yourself from the sun, because the sunscreen itself could
be very dangerous too. And we need sunshine. Isn’t that the pathetic thing, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, we do.
Jackie: We need to be in the sun. The sun is life giving. And yet, we just have to be careful and not overdo it, and be
careful of what we’re putting on our skin. It’s the largest organ in our body.
Alan: But with all the spraying that’s going on, I think it’s best to keep covered, because that stuff is all coming down.
There will be a link going up on my website, the Discovery Channel, to do with weather modification. And they were
talking about these tiny nanorobots that they can put out of planes, billions of them, and they’re so tiny, they can go into
your eyes and you wouldn’t even know that they were there.
Jackie: A nanorobot.
Alan: Nanotechnology. These are tiny little, basically little computers in a sense. They’ve had them for….
Jackie: And there have been movies.
Alan: They’ve had them for donkey’s years, it’s just that the public have never really, we’re the last to be told. When
they tell us it’s actually almost obsolete.
Jackie: And they actually had it on, it was the Discovery Channel?
Alan: They had a program to do with weather modification and that was part of it. They showed a test tube with so
many of them inside this little test tube. And these were a bigger type. He said the other type were so tiny. And the
question was asked apparently on the program. And someone asked, what happens if you breathe them in, and I think
the answer was, you might cough them back up. You may cough them back up. And I wouldn’t be surprised that if
these things are so tiny they can pass through the alveoli, the little air sacks in the lungs, into the bloodstream. I
wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Jackie: What do these little nanorobots do, Alan?
Alan: Well, I think on this particular program they said they were some kind of transmitter. There’s very little we can
believe as far as the reasons that we’re given go. We do know that other areas of science have admitted that these tiny
nanorobots could be used to even reconstruct the inside of your body, because they can link up like a whole series in for
a circuit, and create more of themselves, even, from materials they can find in your own body. So, this is very advanced
stuff. And yet, and yet, it’s old technology.
Jackie: It gets so far out that, you know what my thought is? What the hell? I mean, you know, sometimes when you
talk about these things it gets people afraid. And, I mean, being afraid would be useless. It would be as useless as
worrying. Because, we then, we would just be living in fear. And I guess that comes back to where we are in our own
minds with who we are. Are we a human being or are we a spiritual being? And is Planet Earth it? The 3rd
Dimensional World here. And I think it could be real frightening to people to hear that kind of stuff.
Alan: And yet that’s what they’ve got. And what gets me, it tells you that if they can make these things, which are
pretty well atomic size, what kind of equipment do they put it together with? And how long have they had this for?
Jackie: You want to know what Mars wrote about when he wrote about these things? He wrote about that new arenas
they’re building. Well, Alan. Take a look at them. It doesn’t seem like a reach. Now, I’m not, to me. I mean, I don’t.
How am I saying this? How do I want to say it? I believe that Mars has inside information, let me put it that way.
Alan: Well, he was in that field in the military and he wrote a lot of stuff for the technological societies for years before
he took his present job.
Jackie: But basically, his present job, right, thank you for that. But basically he said that those stadiums are large
antennas, giant antennas. And he talked in that article, in that particular newsletter about the nanotechnology and these
little robots. And when you mentioned them being transmitters. They could be receivers and transmitters, Alan.
Alan: Sure they can.
Jackie: To where our own thoughts or every word could be being sent someplace. We have to take a break here. And
folks, we’ll be back with you in about three minutes. And stay with us.
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Jackie: Before we get started back here with Alan folks, every time I hear that commercial for the DVD, on the Civil
War, I think about it. It was a war to enslave us all. But any of you, who haven’t done research and may not know the
true actuality of the Civil War, it had nothing to do with, you know, freeing the slaves. And they certainly did with the
14th Amendment, they created actually in a sense a Constitution within the Constitution. I never really understood that
until when I owned my business, Alan, and we had those human rights cases starting hitting us, I said at one time I
wanted to have a trial jury. And they said, well, you can’t. I said, what do you mean, I can’t? Isn’t this America, aren’t
we? Well, yes, but this is under the 14th Amendment. The human rights commission is a 14th Amendment
bureaucracy and you can’t have a trial. And every case that I had to defend against, all of the briefs were based on the
14th Amendment. So, I just wanted to say that.
Alan: Getting back to that arena thing that you mentioned, back in the mid-90s, that’s the first time we heard of all these
emergency plans and agencies that are interlinked with each other from local to federal level, and they were having
practices even in Canada, and rural areas, for these emergencies, and we were saying, what’s going on here? This was
before 9/11, and the Cold War was supposedly over and all that kind of stuff, and now, they start all these things. They
didn’t have them even during the Cold War. And yeah, I remember going into a little town called Allison, and there’s
all the fire guys there, and the police there, and people pretending that they were injured and they were giving them first
aid, and it was a mock disaster. And I said, well, something is coming. They all knew something was coming. And
then of course the media went into action and they showed you these emergency command centers where they’re all
interlinked, right down to the local level, and I thought, it took them years to plan all this and get this thing up and
running with the bureaucracy, etc. So, what plans? Well, we know 9/11 came along, and then it all made sense. Isn’t it
interesting that during the 90s at about the same time, that’s when we first heard that sports arenas would be used for
people who would be moved from their disaster areas.
Jackie: Oh, my. And look what happened in New Orleans.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: I found an article, well, I subscribe to USA Today and New York Times, the Toronto Star and the Washington
Post online, and I run down and take a look at their headlines of the articles, and this, I found this interesting. It’s a little
off our course here, but mentioning Katrina, there was an article in USA Today that said after Katrina that there’s a
higher white population and a much lower black. And I thought, the first thought that came to my mind was they are
doing a little ethnic cleansing, huh. Because the white population I think increased by like 20 some percent, from 59 to
70 something. And the black population decreased at least as much, so we’ve got a 40% difference going on there. And
90,000 they said of those people are still living in Houston.
Alan: So, sure, they kill a lot of birds with one stone, these guys.
Jackie: With everything they do. Like with the War Between the States, the more you realize how much they
accomplished with that, they just, they have, they’re multi-layered, aren’t they, Alan?
Alan: Oh, absolutely. As I say, we’re still on the level one here with the six o’clock news version. And there’s so much
going on it boggles the mind. Even on top of all these big cell phone towers, they have these arrays of antenna. They’re
like old-fashioned antennas you’d have for your television on a roof. Only there’s maybe three or four of them in
different directions. And that’s the same pattern with the HAARP installation up in Alaska. So, I think they have a grid
across the country with this type of technology.
Jackie: Some mini HAARP things, going on?
Alan: Yeah, they’re right on the top of every one of these towers that you’ll see.
Jackie: Okay, that brings to mind, and I don’t know if you mentioned this on the air. Something on the news there, and
I think they did a few minutes on it, where they actually had cameras that could photograph the energy coming off all of
these, all of these antennas and that. Did you talk about that?
Alan: That’s right. It was on the CBC.
Jackie: Well, tell our listeners about it, because I think it was one of our off-air conversations.
Alan: It was a doctor in Toronto. Different doctors now form their little associations to do with this new, the new
symptoms that are coming out with the microwave technology that’s being used. There’s multiple symptoms, physical
symptoms, that certain people are feeling, and some of them had to move out of the city to get away from all of these
little antennas they put all over the big buildings in every street and back alley. And…
Jackie: It’s for the cell phones, isn’t it, Alan?
Alan: For cell phones, that’s one.
Jackie: Allegedly.
Alan: And eventually it will track your ID card, wherever you go, but she had a meter there, which could gage the
strength of the signals, and she said, wherever you go here, it’s off the scale, you’re being pulsed with a high energy and
this is a real energy here that’s going right through us. And then they showed you how it would look, where she was
standing if you could actually see the infrared. And the infrared doesn’t come out in a circle from the source. It actually
comes out and it’s like spiky, very spiky.
Jackie: Oh, wow.
Alan: And they’d interviewed some of the people who had been effected by it and had different symptoms from lethargy
to various other problems with different organs in their body, so people are being effected by this, this pulsation of
energy all around them.
Jackie: You mean diseases of their organs?
Alan: Yeah, and some people, as always, they’ll be more susceptible than others, but I think ultimately, if you’re
exposed to enough of it, it will have effects anyway.
Jackie: Oh, sure. Exactly. It maybe hits some people or shows up in some people sooner, but just because somebody
isn’t feeling the effects doesn’t mean it isn’t going on there.
Alan: Yeah, these are tremendous energies unleashed here and we’re walking through fields of them all the time, and it
will take its toll. And I don’t believe at all that they’re just finding out now what the effects would be, because we’re so
far behind on this level reality. They know this stuff, long, long ago, how it would affect people. So, but it will
eventually track the cars. That’s why they’re putting them up all over the high-rise buildings everywhere.
Jackie: Well, they have those cars with what do they call? TeleStar something. They can tell you where you are any
minute.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Any second. And if you come to a traffic jam, this is why people think they’re so cool. You come to a traffic
jam, they’ll tell you where to go to get around it. Oh, my. And you know this, Alan, that the fact is that so much of the
technology that’s out there today could be being used for so much good. And remember that thing that I read when you
were talking to Effie, one of the things you said there, and I think it was so important that we heard that and take it in
and keep it in, is that fact that we with the power that is within us, the source, power as spiritual beings, that it wouldn’t
take all that many people, but it could actually be willed to be a different way.
Alan: It would have to be willed and actually, you know, used in life. Because that’s the whole thing.
Jackie: Well, that’s the whole point. If you will it to be a different way, that would be what it would be, that it would be
being used for good purposes.
Alan: But I really have to think, you see, humanity has a double nature, and that’s something that people… We can
easily point the finger at the monsters we see at the top. And sure enough in this system, the psychopaths get to the top,
because it’s a psychopathic system. Only those kind of people want to claw their way up. Joe Average doesn’t want that
kind of power over people. However, Joe Average still has the ability to do good or evil you might say. And that’s
what people have to confront in their lives. We can’t complain about the people at the top if we’re just the same at a
smaller scale at the bottom. So, all technologies, you see, all technologies we know come from the military industrial
complex. That’s why they’re first devised and they push ahead with things. And it shouldn’t surprise us.
Jackie: What is the military-industrial complex? What is, how would you describe that?
Alan: It’s a combination of combinations, literally. It’s international companies that have been there since prior to
WWII. Some of them have been there for a hundred years. And they have tremendous power, and Carroll Quigley said
in the Anglo-American Establishment, he did say that the future world will be run by a new feudal system ruled over by
international corporations.
Jackie: International corporations.
Alan: And that’s what we’re seeing.
Jackie: Remember the Rollerball movie. Was it Rollerball?
Alan: That was one of them.
Jackie: They were corporations. Every one of those athletes played for a corporation.
Alan: And everybody worked for The Corporation. And then there was the older movie, it was called, it was about the
same time maybe, it was Network. And that was an excellent portrayal of perceptions that people have that are given to
them by the media, and it’s all to do with perceptional changes and how they can alter reality by altering the
perceptions. Very much like we have with George Orwell, where you know, War is Peace, and Freedom is Slavery.
And that’s what we have today. We see soldiers going off like soldiers have always gone off with grenades and guns,
and we call them peacekeepers. It’s the same thing. You change the term and your outlook on what’s happening is
altered. So, this is an old technique but it’s perfected today through mass marketing techniques. And repetition.
Jackie: Sometimes, you know you said this a long time ago. I think it was when we were talking a lot after September
11th, and you said the hardest thing is going to be for people who are aware to be able to maintain their sanity.
Alan: As we go through the changes, we’re already going through them. The six o’clock news would have you believe
that one man in a cave somewhere, a cave man, you know, that’s the big joke, you know, High Masonry, a cave man is
going to make you all take IDs and be monitored across the planet. Everybody.
Jackie: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean, a cave man?
Alan: Well, you know, Bin Laden in the cave.
Jackie: Oh, Bin Laden.
Alan: And you see, in all the mystery religions, you have someone in a cave.
Jackie: The boogieman.
Alan: Well, Jesus with the grotto, the cave, you know. And Mohamed heard God in the cave. You always find this in
the high mystery religions. And they’ve got Bin Laden in a cave, you see. His name actually means, you know man of
light or face of light, like Illuminati. So, he’s in a cave lighting up the cave. It’s High Masonic jokes, really. All of this
theater is a High Masonic joke. And we get it over and over again, however, we’re supposed to believe that one man
caused all of this to happen, and yet, it took years of preparation with bureaucrats to even outline all this stuff, long
before 9/11 came along. So, this is nothing to do with Bin Laden. This is the New American Century. This is the
purpose of the United States of America.
Jackie: This is not important, but it’s a question that just popped into my mind. Is, is the correct pronunciation of his
name Bin Laden?
Alan: Yeah. It’s Bin Laden. It doesn’t really matter. And even the old battery was called the Laden Jar.
Jackie: The what?
Alan: The pre-car batteries. They called them Laden Jars. That’s what a battery was called at one time. So, these are,
everything that’s given to us has many meanings when it comes from the top. And even Maggie Thatcher, I think in
1990 or 1991, at Massey Hall in Toronto gave a talk about The New World Order. That was the title of it in the Toronto
Sun. And she said, the next war will be fought with radical fundamentalism, and she mentioned the Middle East.
Jackie: Radical fundamentalism. Well, they are radical fundamentalists in the Middle East.
Alan: Anybody trying to hold on to their heritage is going to be called radical, because, the New World Order.
Jackie: I know, but is that what she was saying that those Arabs there, those, all the people who live there, besides the
Israelis, that they’re radical fundamentalists?
Alan: Pretty well, pretty well. See, what they admitted too is that Britain and the US had created these, the extremist
groups, to fight supposedly during the Cold War against the Russians. And supposedly they wouldn’t stop afterwards
because they had become so powerful and mighty. That was the excuse they were giving back in 1990 or so.
Jackie: And then, we had the Christian fundamentalist radicals. And according to that BBC broadcast, there are 40
million of them. That’s a lot of people. So, fundamentalism, there’s Christian fundamentalism and what is it, Muslim
fundamentalism, and those are the ones that skewed that their belief system is so skewed that it is that radical.
Alan: In other words, if they believe in it implicitly, as it’s written, that’s called fundamentalism. If you’re sort of
wishy-washy or you’re a nominal type, you were born into it, but you don’t really follow it, that’s okay, you know. But
if you believe this kind of stuff, then you’re classified as fundamental and radical. In fact, it’s been well written about
even in educational systems. In many of their literature they’ve talked about people being technically insane, you know,
if they follow religion. So, definitely for a New World Order…
Jackie: Well, Alan, it’s basically, you would have to be, because of the inconsistencies.
Alan: Well, that’s it. Mythology isn’t supposed to be consistent. And of course, they’ve wrapped up so much within
the religions, rewritten many times, and always for political reasons, from the top for the top, to make people well
behaved. But that system is over now that they’re taking down the borders worldwide for the global society, so they
can’t have that any more. It served them well when they had to have the borders to keep the elite in power and wealthy
and so on. But now, under a global system you’ve got to have, the state will be the boss. That will be your god really,
the World State.
Jackie: And people, who, for example, the protesters, in that we got the Protestant religions, we got everything but
Catholicism. In Will Durant’s series, he mentions this. Mel called me one night, and he had gotten to reading that
about during that time, and Luther, Martin Luther. Of course, he was the big one that started the whole thing. And we
talked about this on the air. It dawned on me finally that Martin Luther was part of the controlled opposition. It was
when I read the book, Babylon Mystery Religion, and when the sleeping giant begins to awaken, they send somebody
out there. Well, Will Durant actually confirms that, because, although Martin Luther led the charge, he was the one
telling the government that they ought to, they ought to arrest and kill these people that were protesting.
Alan: Well, he did not believe in the ordinary person at all. He thought they were the beasts, you know. He said that.
Jackie: He was an elite then in other words.
Alan: Oh, he totally hated the mob as he called it, the people, the common people.
Jackie: The commoners.
Alan: They had to get a way. You see, the old feudal system had served well under Catholicism, but to get the new
Industrial Era up and going, they needed a new work ethic which blended with the religions. So, that’s why they gave
Protestantism to get that going. And that was the whole thing. It was to do with a new work ethic for a new type of era.
Jackie: What are your thoughts about Saul? Paul. Saint Paul.
Alan: Well, there’s no doubt that he’s, or if he was a person, we don’t even know.
Jackie: Right, the story of him.
Alan: There’s no doubt that one person that we’re supposed to believe really gave to us a worldwide Christianity and set
all the rules and stuff and got communes on the go with different laws and beliefs. In other words, he standardized the
belief system, standardization. There were so many sects of Christianity at that time, it was staggering, to see how
many were existing even in his day.
Jackie: You know what Will Durant said in his book, the Caesar in Christ. Remember I’ve talked about Bishop Arius.
Well, he was the one they excommunicated, because he wasn’t going along with the dogma in the doctrine that the
church was coming up with. Or Constantine at that First Council at Nicaea. And he was anathematized. You can’t find
any information on him at all. But Will Durant talks about him. Basically, from what I’ve read, not just Will Durant,
but another book I have, he was teaching that Jesus was the son of God as all of us are.
Alan: Well, that could be.
Jackie: Of our creator, and he was not “God” but created, as all of us were. Well, that wasn’t going to work. And they
weren’t going to have that at all. So, they excommunicated him. And then when they brought him back, and said…
Alan: Under a truce.
Jackie: Yeah, come on back and we’re going to reinstate you in the Church. And that same day he died out in public a
terrible death of poison.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: So, you know, people, people, let me finish this, because this is where I was going with this thought. He said
that a lot of those bishops at that first Council, because Constantine wined and dined them to consensus, Alan.
Alan: It was political.
Jackie: It was. It was the 20th Anniversary of the 20th year of his reign.
Alan: And it was also to do with the Roman Empire. You see, it was an empire that was going to continue from the Old
One to the New.
Jackie: So, he said in his books, in one of his books there, that many of those Bishops had rescinded their vote when
they voted what was going to be the dogma in the doctrine. And he said, by 600 AD, if the Church was not of the Arius
teachings, it was nearly empty. And that leads you to see that back then people were a little bit more aware, Alan. They
weren’t falling for it the same way.
Alan: And they knew what Rome was all about, because Rome had already run a good part of the world for a long time,
pre-Christian. So, it was a political movement. They were well aware. See, it was to standardize everything again.
We’re seeing it today. That’s what the US is doing. They’re standardizing the world into one culture by force.
Jackie: We are organisms. And the world is their Petri dish, and they are culturing us.
Alan: Well, they give us our culture.
Jackie: They give us our culture.
Alan: They grow it, well, actually, they download it into us, and we copy it.
Jackie: Exactly, so yes, yes.
Alan: Nothing changes, you see.
Jackie: And we’re out of our hour. And I wish we weren’t because this just keeps opening thoughts. Our conversations
do this. Folks, Alan and I, we’ll be back with you next Wednesday night. And Alan, well, Alan’s website is .com.
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June 14th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for being with us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday
the 14th of June, already, in the year 2006. We haven’t had any summer here yet. I don’t know about you folks. It’s
been 60, going down into the 40s at night. Today it actually got up to 70, but we really haven’t had any spring or
summer, just because. Anyway, I’m glad you’re here with us tonight. And Alan Watt, thanks for being with us tonight.
Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: And you’ve been a pretty busy guy, haven’t you?
Alan: Yes. On TV tomorrow.
Jackie: TV? You’re getting to be a real celebrity, aren’t you?
Alan: Well, I’ll know that if the money starts coming in. I’ll know I’ve made it. (Laughter)
Jackie: Well, you better be. You know what, I’d be a little worried if the money starts coming in. And it may. Do you
remember when you were on George Noory and you had mentioned that you had been invited to join the Freemasons
and go all the way to the top, because you already. And he said, well. And you mentioned that they approach people
who have the public voice, you know, the newspaper editors and… But you didn’t mention broadcasters, and then he
said, you mean like me, talking to a lot of people. And you said, yes. He said, well, nobody has approached me, maybe
I’m doing something wrong, Alan. And you said, or, maybe you’re doing something right, George. Remember that?
And, doesn’t it make you wonder, Alan? Why they’re letting you talk so much?
Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: Well, what do you think? What are your thoughts on it?
Alan: Whatever I’m saying is getting through to people. I know with listeners. And I do know that a lot of these
stations get a lot of emails for me to come on with people. So, I guess, maybe, they’re just putting me on for the
demand or what, you know. I think some of these stations too are getting a bit worried about the events happening in
the world, because everybody is feeling the changes that are coming down. There’s more people even noticing the
spraying in the skies. For the last four days here, for three days I had a fire on night and day. The stove was going.
Jackie: Oh, it was that cold?
Alan: It was that cold.
Jackie: And you went up to 90 already.
Alan: Before that we were hitting above 90 and it dropped right down to about the 40s for three days. Overcast, totally.
Again, the yellow rain, you know, they left the yellow stuff. So this yellow element is creating the rain and the cold.
And today it’s clear though. So people are noticing these changes, and many things are starting to be affected by all the
security now. Even mail to the States, Air Mail is going the same rate as over land, because they’re checking everything
that’s going through.
Jackie: So, you were talking about the yellow rain.
Alan: Yeah, these yellow bands around the puddles. The same as they had in California. It was on the Channel 4
newscast a couple of weeks ago. So, it’s the same stuff. And it looks, when you see it, it’s almost the consistency of
latex paint. I mean, that’s what it looks like. It’s not pollen. And it’s on everything. I’ve even got tarps outside over
woodpiles and there’s big yellow patches on that too.
Jackie: Well, have you talked to anybody else that’s getting that stuff?
Alan: Not so many up… I live out in the boonies here, so I don’t talk to many people.
Jackie: Well, I mean, the people that you talk to on the telephone.
Alan: Oh, I tell everybody.
Jackie: I know, but have other people experienced that same thing?
Alan: No.
Jackie: Well, they’re doing something different there, aren’t they, Alan?
Alan: I think so.
Jackie: And we talked about this last week. The probability is that it has something to do with the weather modification.
And as you had mentioned, just in case somebody is listening tonight that didn’t hear us last week. You had mentioned
that you, like you were hypothesizing so to speak, that you thought that the reason you’re getting such weird weather,
like up to 115 last summer in Northern Canada, is that you thought that maybe they were using the HAARP antennas
and beaming them over to the pole, to melt the ice caps. And if they’re doing that and you thought that okay then, if that
was the case, you would be where you are, you’d be right in the path.
Alan: Yes. There’s no doubt. They are. They admit it in the treaty they signed at the UN that they could move and
direct the jet stream. So, and they could also bring it right down to ground level, if need be. And we’re seeing that.
We’ve been seeing that for the last three or four years now, where you’ll see two layers of clouds, one going in one
direction and one going in an opposite. So, it’s a twirl up there like an overlay. They’re both passing each other in
opposite directions. And this last week, I saw a new phenomena, where cirrus clouds were underneath the cumulus
clouds, which doesn’t happen, you see, unless they’re manmade. And of course, you can tell by the polymer vapors,
they were manmade.
Jackie: Well, I was getting an article ready to send over to Darren for the website in the weather section. And while I
was doing that, it was an article that I had, that I had already prepared, but hadn’t sent over. And there was another one
that just came in. I guess that’s what prompted me to do it. It was an article that had appeared in the tribune. It’s
Pittsburgh Tribune, I think, or something like that. And they were discussing, Time Magazine, an article from March
6th. Time Magazine evidently had a cover story, and the title of it was, “Be Worried, be very worried.” And it was all
about global warming. Well, then, the article discussed Time Magazine, a Time Magazine, an article from 1974, June
24th, and the title of it was, “Are we heading into a new Ice Age?” And I went, and I did a research, and I found that
June 24th article, 1974. Now, they were blaming droughts and floods and all the crazy weather on the fact that the
temperature for the past three years had been lower than normal, and if the temperature drops, even one degree, it could
mean that we were heading for a new Ice Age. Okay. Now, their article in March of 2006. Global warming, all the
crazy weather is being blamed on global warming. So, you know, like you said, people lose their memories. Or, how
many of us read that 1974 article, but when you see the two of them together, it’s the same damn story, except one of
them is, global warming, and one of them is taking us into an Ice Age. And there was a statement in that the Ice Age
Story. And it was the last statement and a quote by a guy. And he said that if this weather continues, this cold weather
continues that, how did he say it? That the planet would not be sustainable for many people. And he used, that’s the
word, sustainable. And I thought, oh, that was part of their intro into sustainable development.
Alan: Because I know there was one fellow who put a book out in the 70s, and he was really a PR man for the UN, and
he, his book was called The Coming Ice Age. And the same guy, I think 15 years later, when they decided to make it
warm instead, was putting a book out about the coming, you know, warming period. So, they go back and forth like
this, to keep us all running.
Jackie: Be afraid. Be very afraid. Or be worried, be very worried.
Alan: Buy more, stock up on woollies, your woolly pullovers and stuff. Or else, buy a lot of suntan lotion.
Jackie: And somebody informed me recently that a study, I don’t know, some group did or something, showed that 70%,
I think I said this last week also, that 70% of the tanning blockers have carcinogenic chemicals in them.
Alan: I’m not surprised.
Jackie: So, you know what it comes down to, Alan. Don’t trust anything that isn’t natural.
Alan: And use common sense.
Jackie: Yes, use common sense, but it’s like that mosquito dope. Well, Chuck used to slather himself with it. And I
said, I don’t know. I just don’t like putting stuff like that on my skin. Because your skin absorbs everything you put on
it. I mean right into your system, fast. And by gosh, it was a couple, three years ago that it came out that the deet, I
think it’s deet, in the popular mosquito stuff that you slather on you is very dangerous.
Alan: It’s neurotoxic. And also, I was using that quite often a few years ago, when I was doing different things outside
and fixing trucks and things. And whenever you had it on your hands and went out and touched the steering wheel,
you’d start melting the plastic on the steering wheel. Or hand tools, electric drills that you’d leave your fingerprints on
the drill, etched into them, because the stuff literally ate into the plastic.
Jackie: Did you quit using it then?
Alan: Once in a blue moon, if it’s really thick. If it gets thick, you have no option.
Jackie: I think they don’t like garlic, Alan.
Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: No, I think the mosquitoes don’t like garlic. Yeah, and you know, we can find things, for example, take some
olive oil, which is very good for you, and put some garlic in it, and use that.
Alan: Well, I know there’s different potions. People are trying them out. Different herbal potions. And I do have a
bottle here from last year I’ve still got to try. And yeah, but I’d like to find something that really was effective.
Jackie: Well, it wouldn’t hurt to try garlic in olive oil, would it?
Alan: No.
Jackie: Because both garlic and olive oil are good for you. So, if your skin absorbs it.
Alan: You’d be a pretty lonely guy, mind you. I mean, there’s nobody around here.
Jackie: (Laughter) Well, you know, I give the girls garlic, the dogs, they get garlic every day in their food. And I’m
told that it would keep, even the vet said that it would keep the mosquitoes away from them. They don’t like the taste of
the blood, anyway. So, if they don’t like the taste of the blood, they must be able to smell it, I mean, before they
actually get to the blood, smell it on the system. So, give that a try, honey, after you use up your herbal remedy. We
don’t have a lot of mosquitoes up here. We’re 1800 ft, and when you have little brisk breezes all the time, you don’t
have mosquitoes.
Alan: That’s handy.
Jackie: It’s very handy. It’s one of the blessings of being where I’m at. So, tell us what you’ve been doing. You’ve
made a new, have you got your new video done?
Alan: I tell you, I sent it off a week ago, express post, express and air mail, and for some reason they put it under
Purolator courier, the Canadian version of UPS and it still hasn’t got there. And, on it, I had some still photographs for
one of the TV shows that are coming up. However, I still have to transfer them onto this old computer here, this old ’98
thing. And talk through how they do it, and transfer the images and send them off to the station.
Jackie: What station are you going to be on?
Alan: The next one is tomorrow night. It’s called “Out There” at 11pm.
Jackie: Out There. Where’s that at?
Alan: It’s from the States, but it’s affiliated with stations in Britain, television stations there in Europe as well.
Jackie: I mean, is it on a regular channel?
Alan: I’m not really sure. But it’s on the website how to get to it.
Jackie: Okay, on your .com.
Alan: They’ve got a big audience, though.
Jackie: “Out there”, huh?
Alan: Yeah, way out there.
Jackie: You know, we were talking one evening. And whatever the conversation was about, I really got it, Cutting
Through the Matrix; because basically, that is what you are doing, isn’t it, Alan?
Alan: It is. It’s pointing out what really is going on above them that’s kept separate from them or their reality, and
showing them how it’s giving you the reality, and then altering the reality as they move to the next step. And it truly is
like that, because the sciences are so far advanced in these secret laboratories and military complexes that to us it really
is science fiction. When last week, on the Discovery Channel, when they talked about the nanotechnology that literally
they could spray billions of these in the air, these tiny robots, and you’ll breathe them in, and they can get in your eyes,
and this is so tiny you won’t even notice them, and they’re tiny transmitters. But nano robots can also link up inside
your body and create a whole electric circuit.
Jackie: Did they say what the purpose of these nanorobots were for?
Alan: Well, what they said, they were transmitters. But there’s no need.
Jackie: What were they transmitting though?
Alan: Well, that’s just it. I don’t think it’s just to transmit. You wouldn’t need billions in order to transmit. So,
whatever they give us is a cover story for something else.
Jackie: But, I mean, they actually said that they can get in your eyes.
Alan: You won’t notice, because they’re the size of a virus.
Jackie: Don’t you think they did that to scare people?
Alan: It’s possible. And whatever they declare to the public is obsolete, really. Whatever we’re given at the bottom
level is always obsolete. They’re way beyond that. And there’s even another type of technology. It’s hyper nano or
something, which is even smaller than a virus. It’s about half the size, again.
Jackie: And the virus, I heard one of the, I can’t remember her name, one of the doctors that got off the, out of the
medical circuit, but anyway, she was talking about AIDS, and she said, to give you an example of the difference,
because she was saying that the rubber gloves that the surgeons wear have these microscopic little holes in them. She
said if you compare the size of a bacteria with a virus, I think she said, take a football and put it on a football field, and
the football field would be the bacteria and the football would be the virus. Am I overstating that?
Alan: It’s pretty well like that. A virus is I think .05 microns, like a cold virus. So, that’s really, really tiny. That’s how
it can pass through the tissue walls. So, yeah, they’re so far ahead in technologies that it’s mind-boggling, and that’s
just what they’ve allowed us to know. And this isn’t stuff that they’re just working on. When they declared they could
spray billions of these in the air, that means they can churn them out now. Now, what kind of equipment are they using
to even construct these things that are so tiny? That’s mind-boggling too.
Jackie: Are viruses a natural, I mean, not the ones today, but have viruses ever been a natural part of this earth?
Alan: I would tend to think not. Because when you study viruses, they’re almost like tiny little spaceships in a way.
They’re not round or roundish like a bacterium
Jackie: And they’re crystalline in nature, aren’t they?
Alan: Yeah, they’re crystalline, and they can come along like a little hexagon, or whatever, float along through the
bloodstream, and when they want to invade a cell, a body cell, they put out little legs, just like a landing pod. And then
they land on it. And then a little proboscis comes out of the bottom, like a trap door.
Jackie: Oh, Alan, is this every virus?
Alan: Pretty well, yeah. And then it drills in through the membrane, and it empties its contents right into the cell. And
that way it’s hidden, and the contents are hidden inside your body cell.
Jackie: And the body doesn’t recognize it as a foreign invader.
Alan: That’s right. So, when you really look at it, it does look like something that’s been created here out of…
Jackie: You know, it’s almost as though they’ve been given programs to do specific functions too.
Alan: Oh, they have.
Jackie: It’s almost like they can think.
Alan: Well, you know something. The weirdest thing was on. Our CBC here, the television station, gives you these
oddball shows once in a while. And they really tell you something, but they don’t dwell on it, so it goes out of people’s
memories. But about four or five years ago, there was a program on phagocytes.
Jackie: Okay, that’s a kind of an organism.
Alan: Well, these things were… in your body, when different things like clots are breaking down or your body is
repairing something, the Phagocytes you have naturally move in, and they eat basically all the refuse that’s there, the
white cells, the damaged body cells. They’ll eat it up for disposal, the garbage disposal. And this program showed you
a history, which is totally unknown to the West. And in the West, we came out with Fleming and his penicillin, and all
that silly story they gave us. And about the end of WWII, they got it into production, penicillin, and there was nothing
else. And they kept telling us for, right up to the present day, “oh, my God, the bacteria are becoming resistant. We
don’t have new types of penicillin. We just don’t know what to do.” And out comes this program on the CBC, and it
started with this little guy from Canada, an unknown guy, in WWI, who went off to Russia. And he set up facilities to
help the Red Army. And the factories are still there that he built. So, he wasn’t experimenting. He went over with the
knowledge to put this plant up. And what they did, they got all, they even showed you this massive, huge wall of it, it
was like a factory wall, with all pigeon holes in it. And it was a cooler. It was all kept cool, like a morgue. And in
there, they had human flesh, with all kinds of diseases from the Russian Revolution, the Soviet Bolshevik Revolution.
And they had never used penicillin in Russia, right up to a few years ago. They didn’t need them, because they could
literally create viruses, and alter viruses to attack any bacterium.
Jackie: Well, then, what about the virus, once the virus?
Alan: The virus was programmed so that once its target was destroyed it literally stopped reproducing.
Jackie: It self-destructed.
Alan: That’s how perfect they could program it. And it was in Georgia. That was their main facility. And this guy
from Alberta was one of these hot shot buyers for big companies, so, he fronted for them, went over there, made all the
deals and bought the rights, and the program ended and it said that a company from New York had bought this
technology, and this may be available to the public soon, and that’s the last we heard of it. But they showed you
through the plant, they talked to the doctors. You saw doctors, if you went in with a child with pneumonia, into the
doctor’s office, and after he found out what kind of bacterium it was, the pneumococcus and so on, he would bring out a
little spray, just like the kind of little puffers, little rubber puffer type from the bottom, a bulb. And he’d tell the child to
breathe out, and he’d squirt a few, you know, in the breath that the child was inhaling, and that was it. Go home, and
those viruses would take off in the body, attack their target, clear it up, and then they would self-destruct.
Jackie: That was in the Soviet Union?
Alan: That was in the Soviet Union. They had never, they never had a need for…
Jackie: Why did they have such good medical care there, Alan? Why in the Soviet Union did the slaves there have such
good medical? Well, they wanted to keep their slaves healthy, I suppose.
Alan: They had to. I mean, the whole thing was to give everything the appearance that they were doing well. But,
primarily, that guy had gone over with this knowledge. And he wasn’t going over to try and help them. He went over
with the knowledge. And this was about 1917.
Jackie: Well, remember Dr. Richard Day, that talk he gave. He said back in 1968 that there is a cure for every known
disease in this world.
Alan: Yeah, I believe that.
Jackie: In the Rockefeller, you know, files.
Alan: Yes. There was a half page or one page in one of the British papers. It might have been the Daily Mail, a few
years ago, before Princess Diana was called Di, and then she died. And it was a reporter who was going with her as she
jetsetted to the parties, you see.
Jackie: I’m sorry, I interrupted you. You just whizzed that thing by us.
Alan: Yeah, this reporter accompanied Diana, as she went from party to party, that’s kind of what they do at that level.
Sort of aristocrats’ parties. Young ones. And he did notice that they were completely promiscuous. And he just
mentioned it, he said, I asked them, he said there was a group of them there, he said, I asked them, aren’t you afraid of,
you know, catching a disease. And he said they all stood and looked at him, you know, like stunned zombies. And then
he went on to another topic. In other words, he was stunned that they were stunned, but he didn’t pursue it. And what I
think is that the elite, you see, have the real inoculations against all of this stuff.
Jackie: Or maybe not inoculations, but to cure anything they get.
Alan: I think they have the real inoculations. See, you can give real inoculations. Because they looked like he was
crazy, like who is this guy? And meanwhile, AIDS is rampant, and syphilis made a comeback and gonorrhea, and nonspecific
urethritis and a whole bunch of other things. But these people were not in the least concerned about it.
Jackie: You know what that reminds me of? When you say, inoculations. Who was the guy that allegedly in England
invented the inoculation against smallpox? Okay, well, we don’t need to remember his name. He was called a doctor.
He wasn’t a doctor at all. He had bought his degree. Paid for, you know, something that said he was a doctor. But, you
know, the thing that I read, that blew me away, is that, and we’ve been told this, he used the serum from cowpox. And
the cowpox is a totally different molecular structure than smallpox. And to put that into people, is not inoculating
people against smallpox. It’s probably giving them the cowpox.
Alan: Well, I do know, there’s no doubt, when you trace the histories of inoculations, especially from the British
records, you’ll notice that in the 1800s they started making a lot of these things compulsory.
Jackie: Yes, and that’s when they had all the plagues.
Alan: They did, and generally the deaths were exactly the same.
Jackie: In every country that they made it mandatory there were the outbreaks. We’re going to take a break here, and
we’ll be back right after this. Folks, you’re listening to Sweet Liberty with Jackie Patru, myself, your hostess, and Alan
Watt. I guess we would say co-host, yes, Alan?
Alan: I guess so.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back. Alan? We were on a roll there, and maybe we’ve…
Alan: Oh, the inoculations.
Jackie: But maybe we’ve completed that. Or, I’m interested in the new video that you’ve made. With, what is it about?
Alan: It’s again about ancient techniques of managing whole peoples, different peoples, mainly through religion, how
they always used, had lay groups involved under different names. And I think they brought that back again in the
industrial era for Freemasonry for the middle class. And eventually it came into the working class later on. But I go in
to show you how the whole system is a real system you’re living in; it just didn’t evolve haphazardly. And that’s the
impression, you know, they love to give about even Britain. Even the comedy shows always show you these kind of
blustering bureaucrats that are absent-minded and all this kind of thing.
Jackie: Right. Harmless, idiots.
Alan: Yeah, terribly absent-minded people.
Jackie: But not mean-minded and evil.
Alan: And yet, when you study the old books on British diplomacy, and they had schools of British diplomacy in
London. And they ran the Empire as a business. They were like the head of the business. For the government, and
really for the Establishment. And these guys had these far-reaching plans. They had their board meetings to sit and
discuss the fate of Africa for the next hundred years and countries like that. And all the changes that would come
throughout the rest of the world. So, these diplomats were sent out, well trained, well educated, and often they were the
third or fourth generation in the family doing the same thing. And they would play mental chess with people across the
planet, all the dignitaries they came in contact with. And it was always to get something from them, or to manipulate
them into a particular part of a world agenda and so on. And it’s one thing to see that Cecil Rhodes, who was definitely
set up, to expand the British Empire, and to take over the wealth of the world, the natural resources, the gold, the silver,
the diamonds of Africa. And they pretended, of course, that he was separate from the British government, but no, he
definitely had the blessings of the British government, the elite, anyway. And he even caused the Boer War, he brought
it on. You know, they had the Jameson raid, where his boys went into South Africa, and when they retaliated,
eventually Britain sent troops over. So that was a complete set-up. That’s how they set up things in advance, and give
themselves the excuse to go in and take things over. And then, when the country, even for fifty years, or sixty or
seventy has served them very, very well, and they’ve looted it, then the same elite financed the ANC, the African
National Congress to take over Africa. And when Rhodesia was going under, and all those immigrants were being
killed, and eventually South Africa, Britain was completely quiet on the matter. So, they use peoples all the time. And
then they leave you to die, without a murmur from the British Parliament. And it gave no aid to anybody.
Jackie: You know, when I read about South Africa, maybe it was a, it was a James Mitchner book, and it was called The
Covenant. Maybe, I don’t know. But when you think about it, those English, British people that went over and settled
South Africa, they took the land. You know, I get all these emails, Alan about, oh, the poor people over there in South
Africa, and how the blacks, the natives, are, you know, taking all their land and all that stuff. And I thought, it isn’t their
land. What the heck were they doing over there in the first place? What the heck? They enslaved those people over
there.
Alan: Yes, they did.
Jackie: They took them as slaves.
Alan: Well, they made them work down the mines, and made them pay. Gave them money and made them pay taxes,
and all the rest of it.
Jackie: And then there was apartheid. You know, if you had 1/16th of African blood in you, then you weren’t a white
person. And you weren’t part of the society. I can remember when I was reading about that, and I’ll tell you what, at
that time, I was very naive about a lot of things. But what I wondered is, you know, these Boers that went over there,
they were so religious, Alan. And they took slaves.
Alan: Old Testament religion.
Jackie: Well, I know it, but I didn’t realize that at the time, see. But I thought, how could these people be enslaving
other human beings and be so religious. Until I really got back into the Old Testament. Well, you know, as we go and
grow and learn, I understand it now, but it’s like, you know, the Bible Belt in the Old South, all the slaves that they
owned and beat and mated with…
Alan: Most of them, you know, were sold out of New York Harbor.
Jackie: But they were Bible-thumping Christians. But they were Old Testament Christians.
Alan: Well, sure. It’s been used and abused. Again, the worst in human nature is encouraged at times, when it suits the
purpose of those above. But what I’m saying, even about Africa, and this goes back all the way to John Dee and Francis
Bacon. Francis Bacon wrote about the necessity of governments once in a while to eliminate their surplus population, to
be beneficial to the country. So, the country that, like England at the time, would send off these people to different
countries, to open up those countries for them. Now, if they didn’t have countries to open up, they’d have found other
ways of bringing the population down. So, they would encourage all that immigration, but what I’m saying is years
down the road, they probably knew when they sent in the British to South Africa, they probably knew how long it would
take before they could plunder everything out of it, and set up a system they could leave which would appear to be run
by the black people. But in reality, it’s a little duplicate, mini-democracy. And of course, then, when you go into the
Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR, that’s their policy, as Cecil Rhodes put it down and Lord Milner.
Their policy was to go into countries and never leave them until they were perfectly sure that they had set up the same
system of Parliament, the same system of voting, the same hierarchy drawn from the same classes that would run that
country, and they would be in cahoots, with the same aristocracy of England. So, that’s still in effect today. We see that
happening in Iraq right now. And that’s going to be a long, long, drawn out affair. And they will not pull out of there
until they’re absolutely certain that one or two generations have passed, and now that’s the new normal, that new system
over there.
Jackie: You know, okay. I don’t want to get off the track here. So, I’m going to make a note here to go back to Iraq, the
slaughter that’s going on over there. But, your new videos, for our listeners. Now, you’ve got three videos at your
website, .com, and they’re all free, and people can download them. This one, you said that you made, hopefully to help
to fund, to finance the website. So, tell us about, okay, how long is it. I mean, you’ve given us a little bit of a synopsis
of it.
Alan: Once the final things are put in there, there’s certain cuts to get put in, it will be at least, at least two hours long.
Jackie: Two hours. And this is on DVD?
Alan: Yeah, DVD.
Jackie: Okay, and what is the cost on it?
Alan: I haven’t figured it out yet.
Jackie: Well, you better.
Alan: I know. I have to figure it out, because with everything. You see, the mailing has to go airmail now, to try and
hopefully get there faster than overland, because the mail is a mess right now.
Jackie: What does it cost to mail a DVD, a disc?
Alan: I expressed that last one, just the DVD, and I paid 8 bucks. And you know how light a DVD is.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. It’s like a half an ounce.
Alan: So, that was express, but he still hasn’t got it yet, and that’s over a week ago. Because they’re holding up
everything in the US border, and going through everything.
Jackie: Well, why don’t you try sending it Ground, and see if…
Alan: Actually, I phoned up the post office today, and the woman told me at the head Post Office for Canada, there’s no
difference right now.
Jackie: Well, Alan, I told you that the first time I sent that box to you.
Alan: Yeah, but I wanted to make sure that DVD didn’t get lost.
Jackie: Yeah, right. Well, I sent it airmail, and then the next one I sent was ground, and they both got there at the same
time.
Alan: It’s pot luck, you know.
Jackie: Yes, it is.
Alan: Because, what they’re doing is they’re holding up some batches of mail, and going through it all, and letting other
ones go through. It just depends which one they hold up. But there’s some people have waited three weeks to get
something delivered.
Jackie: What is it? Did you find out what ground would cost?
Alan: Well, ground, just regular, I can mail one out for $1.05.
Jackie: Oh, you’re kidding me.
Alan: Over land.
Jackie: Alan, you ought to try it.
Alan: Well, I would have, but I thought, well, you know.
Jackie: You wanted to get that there fast.
Alan: Hand delivered, because they’ve got to sign for it and all that.
Jackie: Sign for it. Yeah, well. So much for that.
Alan: But coming into Canada, I get the mail quickly. But it’s going through the US. You see, they think we’re all
secret Muslims up here.
Jackie: Oh, God. No they don’t.
Alan: Yeah, they do.
Jackie: No, they don’t. They’re just making it difficult.
Alan: I heard that, I heard that Mr. Bush is getting a special team to take DNA tests of every Canadian to see if he’s
really a secret Muslim. So, I’ve got this old rug on the floor here. I’m going to throw it out in case they think it’s a
prayer mat.
Jackie: (Laughter) I’ve got prayer mats all over my house then.
Alan: Oh, you’ve had it then. But, it’s just getting so damn silly, really. So silly.
Jackie: It isn’t silly.
Alan: Yeah, it has nothing to do with what. You see, what they’re going for now is the complete rush for the whole
world system. And it’s nothing to do. They’re using terrorism as an excuse.
Jackie: And you know haste makes waste, Alan. They are, you know, they used to go, what did they call it, two steps
forward, one step back. They’re going leaps and bounds today. They’re laying the cards open on all the tables. And
maybe they’re going to make a mistake.
Alan: I mean this pretense of… What worries me, is that, see, they want everybody on the planet ID’d. That’s in the
global agenda. And the amalgamation has happened already, it’s just that they’re keeping the borders there temporarily
for the US. Europe has amalgamated. The Pacific Rim.
Jackie: Can people travel all over Europe without a “pass”?
Alan: Yeah, you can go under the Chunnel. You know, the tunnel under the Channel they call the Chunnel. And you
can go right through and drive all the way to Russia. But I do believe, I was listening to a program, it was a
documentary, and the European cars have these little monitor modules in them. And they’re tracked by satellite. So,
they don’t even need any borders. They know who’s passing where.
Jackie: They know where you are and yes.
Alan: And that’s coming into the States, apparently, on this superhighway that’s coming up from Mexico.
Jackie: The NAFTA highway.
Alan: It’s built for the same thing. And you will be taxed by the mile automatically. That is on the cards. It’s been
spoken about and published. So, this totalitarian world they’re bringing in is really what they’re after here and they’re
using this nonsense about a cave man to do it.
Jackie: Yeah, we’re biding time, you know. My car is sixteen years old. I have a little Chevy Berretta. And I know it’s
got, I mean, it’s computer command, but it doesn’t have the, whatever you call it.
Alan: Electronic doo-dad.
Jackie: However, I had a friend in Illinois, who worked for the railroad. And, oh my goodness, this was fifteen years
ago, and he said that every single railroad car had those on them so that the satellite, in other words, what do they call it?
There’s a word for it.
Alan: Oh, it’s a satellite.
Jackie: But anyway, there’s letters they use that mean something.
Alan: Global positioning.
Jackie: Global positioning, thank you. Well, he was telling me about it, and I was in awe. I said, you mean they’ve got
them on every single railroad car. He said, yeah, because every car has to be accounted for and before we had to do it
on paper.
Alan: Somebody might steal the car.
Jackie: Yeah, well. They drop one off and some other train is…
Alan: You hitch it to the back of your truck and drive off with it.
Jackie: Supposed to pick it up and the wrong one picks it up and takes it somewhere. All they have to do is push a
couple of buttons on the computer, say, oh, my God. It’s in North Dakota. It’s supposed to be in South Carolina. Go
get it.
Alan: Well, you know, Walmart was mentioned on the Canadian National News here, last week. And it was only a fiveminute
blurb. But it was about Walmart has everything ID’d with this little disc. And the disc, it’s like a little perspex,
see-through disc, about the size of a quarter. And the outside of the disc is looped with a copper coil, so you see the
copper color around it. That’s the antenna. And a tiny little chip was inside it. And it said that Walmart has demanded
that their supplier, see, here’s the blackmail, they get you in as a supplier and then they start dictating to you.
Jackie: Yes. Because they are the biggest buyer.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: I think they started with Gillette Blue Blades or something. But Alan, their chips, they might say they’re a disc
with an antenna. They’re chips.
Alan: What got me is when they showed the disc on the TV, and then they said that they’re forcing all the companies to
start using it. And of course, they’ll offset that by saying, well it will be better for the companies too, because then they
can keep track of their stock. But I thought, that’s the shell, because you don’t need anything nearly that big.
Jackie: It’s for inventory. Well, there’s a website, and I can’t remember what it is. But this woman, in fact, when I was
in St. Louis in December of 2002, and Chuck was doing the radio broadcast, he had her on the air with him. Now,
interestingly though, I contacted her after I got home to bring her back on, and I never heard back from her. But she was
saying that they have these chips, are like a little, you know the glitter that you can get to put around. She said that it is
small and tiny and thin as that. They’re woven into underwear. They’re in everything.
Alan: They’ve even put them in the rubber soles of the shoes. In the process of making the rubber sole, they’ve inserted
it in the middle of it.
Jackie: Well, at the grocery stores, they’ve got, it’s even up in Elmira, which is like 37,000 people, my closest ‘big city’,
where I do grocery shopping. I never even noticed it before, till I heard about these checkout lines, where they don’t
need a checkout person. You just walk through.
Alan: Well, that’s what they said on this program.
Jackie: And that baby, that thing, just records everything you’ve got and tells you what you owe. I found, I saw it at the
grocery store in Elmira. It’s a checkerless, checkouterless line. Geez.
Alan: That’s right. And that’s what Walmart’s putting up.
Jackie; You know, I’m glad I haven’t bought any new clothes in a long, long, time, Alan. I’m wearing clothes that I’ve
had for years. And when you buy good stuff, you know, real stuff like cotton, it lasts.
Alan: Sure. The problem is when you get the rubber tires for the car.
Jackie: Oh hell. Oh, man. Oh, I hadn’t even thought of that.
Alan: They are putting them in the walls of the tires.
Jackie: Oh, no. So, I don’t have a global positioning in my car, but I have it on my tires. You’re probably right.
Alan: Yeah, they are. That was admitted. Not on the same show but on another one I saw.
Jackie: Well, I would be very boring to them.
Alan: Well, it’s not a matter of being boring. It’s that in a totalitarian system…
Jackie: They have to know what every one of us are doing.
Alan: Everyone must be predictable. That’s it.
Jackie: And this is, how would you say, clicked another thought in my mind, total quality management. Okay well, I
had Anita Hoge on, a long time ago. That was in ’98, when I was on at 6pm. And she was talking about total quality
management, and she explained it Alan, the way it really is. She said, what they intend to do is to absolutely keep track
of, like we’re talking right now. Everywhere we go, the money we spend, what we spend it on. Etc, etc. Because total
quality management, the end purpose for them is energy in vs. energy out. And when you are no longer a producer. In
other words, how much are you producing vs. how much you’re eating, the calories you’re taking in. And when you
become a useless eater, you are out.
Alan: And that’s the definition of the United Nations, of a good citizen, is a good producer/consumer. So, yeah, when
you start just consuming, what does that make you?
Jackie: Yep, you’re a useless eater.
Alan: So this is where they’re going. It’s for total efficiency. We’re the herd. And that’s as cold-blooded as that.
They’re the farmers, we’re the herd. They’re the good shepherds, they call themselves. But we are definitely the herd.
Jackie: You know, one thing I do do, do do.
Alan: Do, do.
Jackie: Yeah, I do, do, is because, you know, when Chuck passed, before he did, I had no checking account. My car
was in his name. I was a non entity. And the day I went and opened a bank account, I cried on the way home, because I
knew I was becoming, you know, like you say, what we have to do is get out of the system. Well, there are certain
things that you’re just not going to be able to do without being part of the system. But what I do do is I pay my bills,
you know, the electric bill and the gas bill and the phone bill and the taxes, I pay them by check. Other than that, I pay
cash. And everything else I do, as often as I can, I do it by cash. Because I, and not that I’m doing anything wrong,
Alan, I just don’t want to broadcast to those bastards.
Alan: I know, I know. You see, that’s, DARPA, you know the DARPA. DARPA, I think it’s under their statement.
Jackie: Well, what is DARPA? Do you remember?
Alan: Oh, it’s something to do with total. They call it total information management. I don’t know where the DARPA
comes in. But yeah, they’re all about total information network. And you know, people should realize they mean total.
It’s about all information.
Jackie: Oh, everything.
Alan: It’s letters, it’s writing, it’s internet, it’s talking on the phone. Everything. Total is total. That’s why these Voice
Over internet companies now are pushing up there with all these great deals, because they want all communications
going through the internet system. It’s easier for them to monitor everything then, rather than go through a separate
system. It’s for their efficiency, not for our good that this is happening.
Jackie: Well, you know what I say. I don’t say it, I’m repeating it. The best laid plans of mice and men often go astray.
Alan: Well, what we can do is breed carrier pigeons.
Jackie: There you go, Alan.
Alan: Because those guys can fly a long distance, you know.
Jackie: You know what they’ll do. They’ll chip all the carriers, all the pigeons.
Alan: They might. Well, make sure you don’t feed them the modified food. Because that’s what it’s coming to.
Jackie: Well, this isn’t very, this isn’t, this conversation tonight is quite, whatever. But it is the way it is. And, you
know, to live in fear, to live in, how do you call it, cowering.
Alan: It’s no life at all.
Jackie: Yeah, exactly. So, you know what. To hell with them. We’ll do the best we can do, and let them play their
game. And their game has never been successful, has it Alan?
Alan: To crush the human will takes an awful lot of cunning and planning. And they certainly think they’ve got enough
plans up their sleeves. But I think they underestimate human will.
Jackie: And what is it? The Ghost in the Machine. They’ve never been able to figure out.
Alan: That elusive part that tries to preserve itself and continue. The individualism within, yeah. It’s the creative spark,
you see. You see, they want to kill that creative spark. And I think they’ll lose, because there’s a will here that’s
beyond their control.
Jackie: Yes. And they’ve never been able to do it. Alan, thank you. This has been delightful tonight. And we never
talk much anymore, because you’re so busy.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: So, it’s nice to talk with you. Folks, we’ll be back Wednesday night.
June 21st, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is
Wednesday. And it is the 21st of June in the year 2006. And I’m glad you’ve joined us today. I hope you’re having a
nice day. I hope you’re having nice weather.
Alan: It’s been dull and almost dark.
Jackie: This has been a lovely day here, Alan. This is a quote that we’ve all heard. “Know thyself. There is nothing
else to seek.” Yes?
Alan: That’s pretty well it.
Jackie: That’s pretty well it, isn’t it, Alan?
Alan: It’s the only thing you can actually find. (Laughter) Because the rest of it is endless.
Jackie: So, we haven’t spoken until just a couple of minutes ago. Is there anything particular that is on your mind that
you want to bring up tonight?
Alan: The only thing really is the hullabaloo on all the radio shows about the NAFTA highway, as though it was a brand
new idea. Even though it was discussed in the 1980s, openly in the newspapers, when they did the Free Trade
Negotiations. And what you realize eventually is that most of the public sleep through everything. They do sleep
through things. They slept through the transfer of industry to China after the GATT Treaty. And their attention is only
drawn to something when they’re told to think about it.
Jackie: Well, this email is going all over the internet. And geez, I remember six or seven years ago, we were discussing
the NAFTA highway. And a particular situation that happened. We were having Tim Clemm on with us. He was the
facilitator for XEROX corporation, former facilitator. He was explaining the total quality management.
Alan: Guiding you to the conclusion.
Jackie: Thank you, yes. There’s several names for it, group dynamics. He was explaining it to us. Well, he was due to
come on the air, and I got a call from him just a few minutes before the broadcast. He said, I’m not going to be able to
make it. We’ve had a tornado that ran through here. He was in Oklahoma City. And he said, we’ve never had such a
series of storms in history. And when he did come on with us a few days later, he was telling us, Alan, listen to this,
they were bringing the NAFTA highway down to Oklahoma City. They were going to bypass Oklahoma City, and in
the bypass, it was going to take out a community, their community. And Tim Clemm, being an expert in that, was in the
group that was opposing it, and they were being successful. And guess where the tornado hit? That community. And I
often wonder, because I really didn’t follow up on it, but at that time, I thought, this is just too coincidental to be a
coincidence.
Alan: And especially when they publish, even before that, through Brzezinski, the fact that future wars would be fought
with weaponry of weather and so on, and storms.
Jackie: Right, right. So, as you said, the NAFTA, this NAFTA Highway is not a new thing, but it is true that, it hasn’t
been spoken of lately.
Alan: Well, that’s how quickly the public go to sleep. In fact, they slept through the negotiations as though it didn’t
affect them. That was what was astounding. See, technically, the big boys always legally will tell you. It’s just that
they don’t tell you to worry about it, and that’s what Brzezinski said. The public will not think about something, unless
they’re told to by the media. And so this is understood, this form of psychology. We worry about the things they tell us
to worry about. There’s no point worrying about something after it’s done.
Jackie: Well, let me ask you this. Is this on mainstream media?
Alan: It was then. I’m sure it’s on various local news.
Jackie: No, but I mean today you said it’s a big hullabaloo on…
Alan: Oh, it’s shortwave. I mean, it’s all shortwave. And unfortunately, shortwave concentrates on the effects after the
cause. And it’s too late howling about it when it’s put into place. You’re just seeing the side effects of it now. The
same as the done deal that the border between Mexico and the US would eventually come down, and other South
American countries too. So, I mean, you’re seeing the effects, and that’s the only time the people get startled is when
they think their way of life has been threatened, immediately, you know.
Jackie: Yeah, well, you know, that is true to a point. But there are people who have exposed these things, and it isn’t
that they go to sleep on it. Alan, for example, I talked about regional governance probably for two years. I was on other
broadcasts as a guest. We had a regionalism document packet. Had a lot of lot of response. Regionalism is alive and
well. And it isn’t necessarily, I didn’t go to sleep on regionalism. But I had covered it so heavily and to keep on
harping on it. See, what they do is they keep presenting new things for people to talk about.
Alan: And worry about.
Jackie: Yeah, sure. And so, not to put all the blame on “sleeping people”. They just keep bombarding, you can’t cover.
And if you do cover all the news, that’s all you’re doing. You know, like Robbie N. He used to sit and go, and so did
Rick W, that was on shortwave there, that’s all they did is sit and go through the news. Blow people’s minds away, but
what are those people going to do about it.
Alan: It’s after the fact. It’s after the event. And scream and howl and beating your breast, when you see the effects.
But, the fact is, this stuff has been published for, Karl Marx talked about the amalgamation of the different continents in
the 1800s, you know.
Jackie: Yeah, but, Alan, and I don’t mean yeah but. I shouldn’t say that. See, we appreciate the information you bring
to us. You have had access and made yourself aware and knowledgeable. You had resources and information that we
didn’t have access to. And maybe it wasn’t that people didn’t care at the time. You see what I’m saying?
Alan: Well, they do. They do have access to them.
Jackie: How?
Alan: If they’d gone into their libraries and researched this kind of dry material.
Jackie: I know, but if you don’t know about it, how do you know to research about it?
Alan: Because, the thing is, there’s got to be a reason for things. Big, big movements, world movements, there’s always
reasons for them. They don’t come into existence and become big, unless they’re authorized. And that’s how the
people are led by the pied pipers and the dialectical arguments in fact. They’ve got to have sides created to oppose each
other and then have a synthesis. And when you understand that, you’ve got to read the dry stuff to get the nitty-gritty.
And you always know what’s coming, because sure as blazes, they always publish it, you know. And as I say, in
reality, we don’t have much of a say in this system. It’s not our system.
Jackie: Well, that’s what my thought here.
Alan: It’s not our system.
Jackie: And going back to regional governance, I didn’t know about it, but it was known about almost from the get-go.
There were certain people that were sounding the warning bells, as far back as the 1970s. The Illinois State legislature
set up a special committee to study the effects of regional governance. I have three huge books, seven hundred and
some pages of transcripts from those hearings. And what the legislature came up with is we better damn stop it here.
And so, what they did is they passed a bill to set up a committee to study regionalism, to stop any further form of
regionalism in Illinois, and to begin to undo regionalism that had already been put in place. Well, the governor vetoed
it. And there weren’t enough votes. But this was the result of people that were involved and talking to these
legislatures and bringing them information, and enough people putting the pressure on, that they did it. And yet, it got
vetoed by the governor. So, there you go.
Alan: That’s what I’m saying. People don’t realize that this is not their system. There is a control mechanism at the
top. And they make sure of it. That’s how they never lose control. That’s why they can plan something a hundred
years before and bring it into effect. They always make sure they have their own people at the top.
Jackie: Well, of course. Controlled opposition.
Alan: Yes. And you know yourself, and you’ve spoken about it before. You have these United Nations Associations of
Police Chiefs for instance. And there’s one for mayors now.
Jackie: Oh, everything, Alan. Chiefs of police and mayors. They have international associations for just about every,
and they do have National Associations for every elected official from state legislatures to legislative aids. They’ve got
them all.
Alan: And that was the reason they set up the United Nations. It was bit by bit to take over every aspect of your life,
really. And they have been at it and working at it. And when they signed that deal, the UN deal, that was really the end
of the old system, which the big boys also controlled. This is just the updating of their system to the new system.
Jackie: And, for any of our listeners, that might not be aware of it, in case we have any new listeners, because I have
said this. The United Nations, of course, previously was the League of Nations. Prior to that, it was the League to
Enforce Peace.
Alan: And before that it was the Concert of Europe.
Jackie: Okay. And people believe, I think, and I can relate to this, because, Alan, when I first woke up and became
involved. I believed things that I read, because people wrote them, with you know, a certain amount of authority. But it
is kind of a given or an accepted thing, that we signed a charter, that was a treaty with the United Nations. That’s what
they call it, a treaty that was signed with the United Nations. All the US did was enter into a membership, because
treaties in the United States are made between governments.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And all they did was say, okay, we’re going to become a member of this nongovernmental association. Well,
actually the United Nations calls itself intergovernmental organization. And all the other ones that are in it are
nongovernmental organizations.
Alan: That’s actually the Soviets. That is the real Soviet, because the Soviet system, Soviet meant that. It was rule by
NGOs or councils. And that is how the United Nations is comprised. It is along those same lines.
Jackie: Yes, it is. I believe we mentioned this before. I’ve mentioned it before, we have a piece that I transcribed from,
right from the source. I think it was back in the early 40s, or it might have been the late 40s, because they were already,
you know, doing the UN. We know they were doing it during the Second World War. But anyway, it was called Peace
by Pieces, and how the nongovernmental organizations, the NGOs were going to become, well, not the voice of the
people, but basically it is the United Nations.
Alan: That’s right. And of course, the NGOs, the biggest ones, the authorized big boys, NGOs are not little grassroots
movements. They have buildings and staff and two or three or more floors for an NGO. They pretend to speak on
behalf of the public, and they’re funded by the great foundations.
Jackie: The Chamber of Commerce is one of the biggies. And you know, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts of America are
part of the…
Alan: That’s why they set them up.
Jackie: Yes. And the YMCAs.
Alan: Anything that would grab the young, especially. I mean, most people go through their lives, and once they’re
married or they’re in their twenties or thirties, they’re into the system. And from then on, it’s a rush, a mad rush, until
they retire. And so, they always go for the young ones and give them a slightly different, modified system. They keep
them apart, and the generation gap, which is encouraged. And so, they can always. And the young ones always adapt
so quickly. They’re born into this system, which is different from their parents. They adapt to everything in it so
quickly, naturally, they don’t question it. And then the ones that come after them are the same for the next step and the
next step. And that’s how they do it. Give us the children.
Jackie: Give us the young. Okay, here I am again. There’s a piece in our children’s section, and it is the very first
piece. It’s a statement by Auguste Comte, and he said give us the young and we will change the world. And folks, of
course, Alan’s website, Cutting Through the Matrix is linked there, but you can get directly to Alan by going to .com,
and oh, we haven’t talked about this. There’s a new audio/video that was posted. What was it, Sunday night, Alan?
Alan: On Sunday.
Jackie: And it is a speech. It is an audio speech. I mean, an actual speech that John F. Kennedy gave, April 24th, was it
Alan? 1961? And what he was saying in this speech, folks, was that he was not going to allow to the extent of his
power, he was not going to allow secret societies to exist. And if you haven’t heard it, Alan has commentary before and
after, and the speech is there. You will want to hear it. Alan, I literally listened to that thing at least four times. Well,
because, of course, the language that he used, he didn’t come out and say, you know, the Freemasons and…
Alan: Yeah, because it’s all encompassing. It also included the big boys, you know, the Bilderberg type, the Club of
Rome, all the great foundations, because he was linked to these people through the money. He understood the agenda.
And, the great foundations, even Weishaupt mentioned using philanthropy, meaning people with big bucks or
organizations to force a direction in the world. And that’s what they’ve been doing for a long, long, time.
Jackie: Yeah, and he was giving the speech to the Press Club, was it, and you know.
Alan: This is the same associated press, remember, that has the public scratching their heads, saying, why was he killed?
Jackie: Right. Right, exactly.
Alan: And yet, here he is, talking about…
Jackie: How many people do you think ever heard that speech? You heard it, you remembered it.
Alan: That was on the BBC years ago, because it was linked at the time to an oddball documentary on Freemasonry, and
they showed that speech at the time. And it was the same year, in fact, that I went to a friend, a school friend’s
wedding, his sister’s wedding. And it was held in a Masonic Lodge. And because it was like synchronicity, where
things come together at the same time, the speech and the Masonic exposure documentary, and going to that Masonic,
where the function was served, called the wedding function reception. The father of the bride, who was drunk, lifted the
son up to the keyhole, which was about eye level of an adult into this room. And he lifted me up, and I saw the allseeing
eye on the east. It was coming down from the roof on a pipe. And this big huge eye, and below it was a sort of
pyramid thing, a stepped pyramid. And that stuck in my head, like synchronicity. And that’s when I started looking
into the secret societies, because these lodges were all over the place.
Jackie: Remember when he mentioned the press as the on-party press. That was quite telling, wasn’t it?
Alan: Well, it’s true. It’s not really even what we think of as parties. To me, there are no sides. There’s only one side.
Jackie: Right, exactly, basically that is what he was saying.
Alan: It’s a system.
Jackie: When Republicans are in, they bash Republicans, when Democrats are in, well, it depends on what they’re
doing, what their handlers are having them do, I guess I should say.
Alan: Yeah, because these people remember, most of them on the federal levels are all millionaires. They all have the
shares in the same corporations. They know the future agenda, that’s why they do their investments and so on, into
those big corporations. They know where the world is going to go, and they put on this dog and pony show for the
public.
Jackie: Lining their pockets.
Alan: They line their pockets. And there’s nothing new in that, if you look at the histories of Britain, it was such a…
Jackie: Well, what do you think they did in Rome, Alan?
Alan: I know. And that’s why even the Roman Senate was called the Senate. And the Senate is an Egyptian word, it
means the chess board.
Jackie: Oh, wow, I didn’t know that. Did you tell us that before?
Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: Chessboard.
Alan: I think I’ve mentioned it before. Because that’s what the chessboard was called in Egyptian. And, of course,
that’s why even in Britain now they have the black and white squares in the House of Lords.
Jackie: That’s an Egyptian word? Oh, my. Chessboard, oh, Alan.
Alan: That’s why you have the black and the white, the profane and those in the light, is light and black, you see.
Jackie: And those that they say are in the light, are the ones that are in the dark, right?
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Sure.
Alan: So, they can control the real world, and they give a different version for the profane, those who are in the dark.
And that’s why the Owl, of course, Sophia, Wisdom, is one of their high symbols, because the Owl that sees in the dark
is the Land of the Blind. It’s all masonic. It’s high occultic, really.
Jackie: Well, I listened, I told you this. Is that archive to your broadcast that you did Sunday night on Feet to the Fire?
Alan: Actually, I think it’s going to be streaming. It’s been showing in different places, in different countries.
Jackie: No, I’m not talking about the television thing. Feet to the Fire, the one you did ten to…
Alan: Twelve.
Jackie: Yeah, ten to twelve, Sunday night.
Alan: I think that’s maybe up on there, on the website now, I think.
Jackie: Okay. Well, I would like to urge our listeners to go and listen to that. It was excellent. And I, as told you, I
thought that the host, I mean, you could hear his intelligence, his sincerity. He just sounded like a for-real guy, Alan.
Alan: Yes. He was interested for sure.
Jackie: Yes, he was. Yes, he was.
Alan: And also that TV one will be broadcast on the 25th, I think. And it’s been shown in some countries as well. So,
that was the Out There one. Out There. And once it’s been broadcast, I’ll put it up on the site too.
Jackie: Cool. And he asked you a question that was really the same question that I had asked you, because it has been
kind of confusing, why are they letting you say all these things. And would you respond, tell our listeners how you
responded to that.
Alan: I think I said on that one, that was really, they’re so cocksure of themselves now that they really don’t care. They
know that the public is off balance with everything else that’s going on. And people generally look at their immediate
needs or fears or whatever, so they can always keep them off balance about the coming bird flu or whatever, you know.
They’re terribly sure and arrogant of it. They’re very arrogant right now, in fact.
Jackie: Well, they say that there will come a time that there’s nothing anybody can do about it. Now, that is arrogance.
I mean, when we look back, well, I can’t look back the way you do. But from what, you know, you have shared with
us, they’ve tried this over and over and over again, and maybe they haven’t been as close this time. That’s what you
said before, that you had a sense, because they didn’t have as high technology as they do today, but, they’ve never been
successful.
Alan: Well, maybe it’s a saving grace in a sense. Their defect is their craving for power. It’s abnormal. I mean it’s not
normal. It’s beyond the norm. And because of that, their ego is incredibly huge, and there’s only going to be one throne
here for the world, and each one of the big boys wants to be seated there, you see. So, their Achilles heel is always
when they start fighting each other. They’re not concerned about the little people. Although, the little people can take a
terrible beating, as the Titans dance around in their death throes. But it’s very possible they’ll start on each other,
eventually.
Jackie: And another saving grace, is, as you said, when enough people wake up to it, and become enlightened, selfenlightened,
if you will, because that’s the only way it’s going to happen, although, people like you, who share the
information, and plant the seeds, Alan, maybe begin that search, that seeking of knowing thyself, because there’s
nothing else to seek, when enough people are enlightened, and will it to be another way, it can be another way.
Alan: Yeah, but it takes an awful lot of work. Because I never say I’m here to save this system. You see most people
truly want to save it.
Jackie: I’m not talking about saving the system, you know that.
Alan: You see, most people, really, and that’s why they listen to the shortwave, the big shortwave stations.
Jackie: We’ve got to save the country, take our country back.
Alan: Let’s just stop time here. Don’t let it get any worse. Let me live my life out the way I want it to be, and then you
can start time again.
Jackie: I mean, it’s bad enough now, but just don’t let it get any worse. Because, I can handle it. I’m still alive.
Alan: And I’ve got my hobbies, and so on. So, that’s what they really want, and they don’t realize that even the system
we live in today was manufactured this way.
Jackie: However, we’re talking about the masses. And there are those who have for some reason escaped that. Those
are the ones that this message is for, aren’t they, Alan.
Alan: That’s just exactly right. That’s exactly right. The ones who have died a thousand deaths, as they say. And you
die off to everything that you thought was…
Jackie: Oh, man. That’s not easy either, you know. That’s a real journey. That’s a real trip.
Alan: And yet, you have to do it to really understand who you are, and what life is all about, you have to die to all the
things that you took for granted. And you have to question them all first, before you even get there. And you realize,
my God, there’s nothing in this system that really is natural.
Jackie: Yes, and I think, I just have always felt this, that people who are listening to Sweet Liberty, that they wouldn’t
be listening if they weren’t at least potentially part of that realm of people who are seeking truth, who want truth, and
who are willing to accept and face it, no matter how…
Alan: Hard it is.
Jackie: Oh, how hard it is. And there is a time of disorientation, and I know you recall this, when, Alan, literally, and it
seemed like it lasted for weeks. I was walking around and doing things, and feeling like I wasn’t here, because anything
I looked at, everything I looked at it just wasn’t real. And you said, well, that’s a good place to start. Let it all go. And
let all of the American Dream… Alan, they said it right, didn’t they? They gave us a Dream. They made it the right
thing. They said, it’s a Dream, folks. And we said, oh, the American Dream, only in America. And I cried, you know,
when we were singing the National Anthem. When you’re as into the system as I was that way, and I bet you a lot of
our listeners are or were. It is, it’s not an easy thing to do. And yet, once you’re out of it, there is a freedom. And we
are going to take about a three-minute break, here, and so folks, we’ll be back after this, Alan Watt.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: So, we give up our dreams, Alan. Our American Dream. What do they give you guys in Canada?
Alan: They had a bit closer to the American Dream, they had material substance for a while, but of course, the agenda
had a different future envisaged. And, in fact, at the end of World War II, so many factories had been built in Canada to
deal with the war production, that Canada was rated, even by the UN, to be one of the world’s leaders in industry.
Jackie: Even, even above the US?
Alan: At that time. And because it’s a socialist country under the British Commonwealth, the same system. So, they’d
used this public/private deal long before we heard of it here, or in the States. And they had to take the taxpayers’ money
and build all the factories. But, of course, they had a different plan scheduled for Canada. And they actually started to
deindustrialize back in the late 70s, about the same time as they were deindustrializing Britain.
Jackie: And killing the family farms here in America.
Alan: Oh, yeah, yeah. Because then, and of course, the United States, you never get the truth on anything. You know,
people who work for government, swear oaths, to the secret oath basically for their service. And they’re under the
Official Secrets Act. So, they know that there’s an agenda at all time.
Jackie: Wait, say that again.
Alan: Everyone who works in government takes the oath.
Jackie: In US government too? They take secret oaths?
Alan: It’s an oath to secrecy. That they must keep everything, in Britain, it used to be 35 years after retirement, you
couldn’t speak. So, in other words, you’d be dead.
Jackie: You mean, if I became a US Congressman, I’d have to make an oath. Take an oath.
Alan: Under National Security. And you see, you’ve got to understand what they’re talking about when they say
National Security. And it’s a corporate state that you know nothing about, then to the public. And of course, they have
the agenda for that nation. So, they cannot disclose it. So, we always find out fifty years after the fact as to when this
part or that part was signed, or, you know. We’re always way behind in reality, our reality.
Jackie: Well, and not only that, but think about this. They continue to change their definition of National Security.
Alan: Yes. Because in democratic countries, democracy has always been flexible.
Jackie: And securing the homeland. You know, Alan, when I saw that phrase. We’re securing the homeland. You look
up the word, secure, it’s they’re securing their property, so to speak.
Alan: You fix it, you tie it, to secure something.
Jackie: Yeah. It has nothing to do with securing the people, or offering some type of protection. Whatever. I mean, it’s
all such a sham, but just look up the dog-gone word, securing, and we’re securing the homeland. And then you have to
say, whose homeland? When was America ever referred to as “the homeland”?
Alan: And no doubt, somewhere in the federal government, there will be a legal definition of what they mean by that.
And that’s what someone can do a search and find out. So, they will have a legal definition of it.
Jackie: You know, I have something I’m going to email you and ask you to take a look at it. I’ve been getting emails
from the Homeland Security Investment. And I sent it over to Darren. And I said, Darren, would you please look at
this. It looks like. I mean, what else could be called Homeland Security. And I keep getting these emails about all the
good investments and how their investments have grown, and etc. And it’s the Homeland Security Investment. And I
thought, well, here we are, a separate corporation from the US government incorporated. So, I’ll send it over to you,
and see if you can take a look at it and see. Darren just thought it must be not something that was actually connected
with the Department of Homeland Security. But, what company would have the right to call themselves Homeland
Security?
Alan: Well, an authorized one. Because Federal Express is not Federal. Or even the Treasury. Same sort of thing. So,
yeah, most things are actually privately owned, as you know. In fact, this whole public/private deal. And this was
discussed back in the 1950s.
Jackie: Public/private partnership.
Alan: It was a general from NATO. He talked about the future armies being basically private armies, owned by
corporations, you know, secure various mineral wealth, etc, in different countries. So, most things really are private
today. That’s why you’re a private when you join the army. You’re now owned. You’re privately owned.
Jackie: And that’s why you own dog tags. I mean, you wear dog tags.
Alan: And of course, that’s really what it means. But everything is done through this corporate structure and corporate
legalism through the names that we’re given. Even the countries’ names, etc. And even Washington D.C. You know,
it’s a corporation. So, everything is done through private corporations, really. Because they rule over the public, it
doesn’t mean it’s your system, it’s actually their system. It’s a private system.
Jackie: You know, that one. Oh, I know what it was. Greg S. I listened to that. And, you know, they were talking so
much about the Jesuits, sort of like, okay, it’s all the Jesuits. Well, Alan, I read Tupper Saucy’s book, and unless he
fabricated all of the bibliographies and footnotes, they could lead one to believe that the Jesuits were behind everything.
Alan: Remember, years ago, I said to you on the radio, I said, if you look into it’s this group, it’s that group. It’s
whatever group. You’ll find lots of books to back it up. And if you read them all, they’ll all appear to be right. And
that’s when you realize, it’s all true, because there’s only one big group running them all. And that is how power is,
always.
Jackie: So, each of the different societies have their different little deals that they’re going to work. He sent me his
book. And he said, if I didn’t like it, would I please send it back. Well, I had so many highlights and notes. I mean, I
was really fascinated with this book, and then I get to the end of it, and he says, we have exactly the government that
we’re supposed to have. You know, it’s God’s Plan.
Alan: Oh, God’s Plan.
Jackie: Because we’ve gotten so evil, that we have an evil government. So, everything that’s happening is because
we’re all so evil. And I thought, oh shit. Excuse my language. And I looked at this book, and I thought, well, I can’t
send this back to him, because I had marked it all up. But what a farce, Alan.
Alan: It’s a farce, but see, government can only exist when it has what appears to be enemies, who threaten you as an
individual, a member of the public. And they can stand up as governments and say, we’re here to protect you. We want
to tax you, and we want to organize you in a different way to defend you and take care of you. So, the more enemies
that you appear to have, the better. And, of course, you cannot, in this day and age. And it’s been like this for a long,
long time. You cannot have secret organizations working independently. It’s impossible not to be infiltrated. It’s
impossible. It doesn’t matter who you are. And it’s been like that for centuries. And they’re all really one, but they
keep the semblance going, so it’s to keep the public always confused.
Jackie: And well, they keep the frontmen, the outer portico, so to speak.
Alan: And the public want someone they can identify with. So, if you’re Protestant, you’ll go for a Protestant leader.
Catholic for the Catholic leader. Jewish go for the Jewish leader. Black go for the black leader, and so they make sure
they supply all the leaders and sure enough, whatever your belief is, your culture, your creed, there’s someone out there
to lead you. Take your pick.
Jackie: Yes. It reminds me of the Council for National Policy. All those phony conservatives, Christian conservative
leaders. They, I noticed this, when you look at the list of names of all the organizations, like, you know, Larry Pratt,
gun owners of America, and Phyllis Schlafly, and I won’t go on and on, but I thought, well, each of them has an agenda.
And each of them is a bell for somebody’s button. I mean, you know, the “right to life”-er’s go for Eagle Forum. And
the “right to carry and bear arms” is…
Alan: That’s what I’m saying. All these pied pipers come out. And if you watch them carefully towards the end, it all
starts going in the same direction before they merge. And they bring all their followers with them. Their followers end
up saying, how did we end up here? And so, that’s what I’m saying, whatever you want to believe in, it’s like walking
into a big store, a tailor store for a suit. It doesn’t matter what size you are, what height you are, or breadth you are,
there’s one there for you ready made. Take your pick.
Jackie: You’ll find something. And they provide it for us.
Alan: And that’s been done for centuries and thousands of years, in fact. That’s why Mystery Babylon, it was hard to
pinpoint. That’s why they called it Mystery.
Jackie: What was Mystery Babylon? What is Mystery Babylon?
Alan: Mystery Babylon is everything for everyone. So, you’d have a bunch, say, those priests over in the West there.
No, it’s the ones over in the East over there. Oh, it’s those ones to the North.
Jackie: Well, it’s New York City. It’s the Catholic Church. Are you talking about Mystery Babylon in Revelations?
Alan: Yeah, and even before Revelations. I mean, Babylon was a complete system of all religions, degrees of truth,
secret societies, etc.
Jackie: You mean, Babylon itself at the time. Whoa.
Alan: Of all kinds. And so, it was hard to put it down as Babylon was, blah, blah, blah. It was everything, it was an
entire system of economics, social control, war policies, foreign policies, everything.
Jackie: And now, is it true that where Iraq is where Babylon was.
Alan: It was in that area.
Jackie: Do you think that’s connected with why, you know, the minute that they “invaded” that they went into the
museums and all the archives?
Alan: We even talked on the air before that happened, remember? And they’d just shown a television program here on
CBC, I think it was CBC, and it was about investors in New York and Louisiana, who were already taking bids for the
antiques which they would steal from the museums in Iraq. These were big multi-millionaires. These were the gogetter
guys.
Jackie: Well, and then the really, really big guys would get a hold of the ancient manuscripts.
Alan: But, here’s the kicker, Jackie. They knew before the American military went in and eventually got to there. Now,
it tells you that some…
Jackie: You mean this was before they went into the war?
Alan: Yes. But these guys had already taken the bids. They were cocksure to get what they wanted. How would you
be able to say that unless you had contacts in the CIA, who would go in with the troops and cordon off the museums and
take the pick? That’s how it had to have been done. That’s how it had to have been.
Jackie: Because, it really is a bedrock of civilization, isn’t it?
Alan: It’s ancient. Even Bill Clinton when he was in, had been on, many thousands of Cruise Missiles had been going
over into Iraq every few years. That’s when the embargo and they were starving them all to death.
Jackie: Alan, they were doing by-weekly bombing runs.
Alan: Yes. Putting all these Cruise Missiles from ships. And I used to wonder, because most of them are landing in the
desert. And I says, there’s nothing there. But there was something there. There were ancient sites there, archaeological
sites, and they were destroying evidence. Which would probably knock religions, etc, out of the window. That’s what I
think. They were hitting ancient archaeological sites. And digs.
Jackie: That would what, did you say?
Alan: Knock a lot of the religions out the window. I mean, people don’t realize how powerful a tool the established
religions have always been.
Jackie: I’m sure, which the Dead Sea Scrolls would have done. If the Dead Sea Scrolls were found as they said they
were, you think about this, they were held under lock and key for fifty years, Alan. Only seven.
Alan: Well, I know, if they’re even genuine.
Jackie: That’s what I said. If there were Dead Sea Scrolls. That’s the problem. Everything we talk about, we don’t
even know if it’s real.
Alan: The thing that gets me, some young shepherd, supposedly boys, one day threw stones in and they heard a clunk,
because they hit a jar in a cave. Now, little boys go into all kinds of caves, and supposedly for a couple of thousand
years no one had done so? That’s impossible.
Jackie: Well, there you go. Thank you for that Alan.
Alan: But these routes were not out of the way.
Jackie: So, here I am, talking about the fact that they had the Dead Sea Scrolls under lock and key, for fifty years, and
they probably don’t even really exist.
Alan: See, you can manufacture anything to look old.
Jackie: Exactly. Well, thank you. Thank you. That, you know what, that’s what Cutting Through the Matrix is, isn’t it.
You know, you have the perfect label, name for your website. And I think you said, it’s sort of like breaking the spell.
You break the spell that has been cast. That’s Cutting Through the Matrix. And you know, we talked about this. This
is kind of on the same line. When I was learning about the way they’re teaching children to read. Look/say reading.
And I’m really not off track here, off our point. I was talking to Charlotte Iserbyt, and she said this on the air. I
wouldn’t even want my child to learn the Ten Commandments by Look/Say reading. And I said, I don’t understand
that, why? She said there’s no transference. Well, I didn’t understand that. Then I had Anita Hoge on, and Alan, this is
when I really got it. She said, when we are really learning something, let’s look at the brain like a tree and the brain
stem. And when the child begins to learn, all of these synapses are created. Those are the branches, the twigs. And
each area, for example, science and geography and reading. And those are main branches. Mathematics. And then
there’s all the little twigs. But she said, everything is connected. So, the child actually can think and reason. Now, with
look/say reading, they don’t have any concepts. They learn a word, and she said, now, picture the brain with a bunch of
dashes in it. Nothing is connected. There’s no connection any place. There’s no ability to reason or think.
Alan: Yeah, well, that’s ideal for a population that’s going to go through big changes.
Jackie: Yes, but why did I go into that? I said, I’m not off our point. Where were we?
Alan: Well, things like the Dead Sea Scrolls and how they…
Jackie: And the Matrix.
Alan: And the Matrix, because, yeah, I mean, I looked at where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls and, now, for
thousands of years the same shepherd boys have gone on the same routes. It’s not like it was a huge, massive country
here, you know, like the Sahara or the desert. It was the same general routes. And boys explore everything.
Jackie: Right. But we were talking about Cutting Through the Matrix. And when we were talking about this on the air,
my question was, okay. Things that have been brainwashed into people, just these synapses that have this information
in it, that they believe. And I asked you, how, how would a person become unbrainwashed? Could those synapses be
replaced with actual truth, or would it have to be cross-circuited? And you said, I think it would have to be crosscircuited.
Which made sense to me. It has to be a shock. And I think that’s what Cutting Through the Matrix is, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, you have to.
Jackie: Talk to people.
Alan: It’s like this stuff. See, people parrot what they’re given to parrot, and Brzezinski said that in his own book, that
they give us the topics to talk about. And they always have. And I thought about that one not long ago, where NASA
claimed it sent off some multi-billion dollar spaceship up into space to collect some space dust, you know, and they got
something less than one gram or something. And they prattle on about that, no doubt, at cocktail parties people prattled
on about this nonsense. And they tell us such utter rubbish, you know. And most of the data in our lives is just that.
It’s just data. And it’s like telling us that they send all these shuttles up there to see if spiders can have sex in space, you
know. I mean, it’s utter tripe. It’s tripe. Because that’s not the function of those things at all. They’re up there putting
up satellites that are going to watch you and monitor you and stuff like that. But they give us rubbish on a consistent,
daily basis.
Jackie: They say that those satellites are so powerful that they can see a mole on your butt.
Alan: Yeah, they could. But this is the rubbish they feed us, consistently. And that’s how it’s always been. We’re fed
nonsense. Utter nonsense.
Jackie: Doesn’t it make you feel creepy sometimes? Sometimes when I’m outside, and I think, you know, there could
be a satellite zeroing in. And it could be like they’re ten yards away.
Alan: Yes, I know.
Jackie: You know, whatever you’re doing.
Alan: And they have so many up there that it boggles the mind.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. Chuck and I used to sit out on the side deck, at night you know, and turn off the lights in the house.
And just because it’s beautiful up here and you know, when there aren’t the chemtrails, the stars are, there’s just billions
and billions of them. But we just sat there one night, and suddenly, we saw this star moving. And suddenly, he said,
that isn’t a star. It’s a satellite. And we watched that satellite make its little trek, and then we kept finding satellites,
Alan. They’re all over.
Alan: Yeah, and that’s the ones that you can see. You know.
Jackie: Yeah, that’s the ones we could see.
Alan: It’s like the latest NASA thing. They said, oh, they sent another multi-million dollar satellite to start tracking the
weather patterns, to see how clouds form and how they move. Oh, gee. They did this long before they started the
chemtrails, because they use those patterns to move the chemicals. We’re fed nonsense on a daily basis. And it’s
always been that way. And it’s so amazing to me that scientific theories, this is how we’re taught in the bottom Matrix,
everything is theory, which is taught as fact. They keep changing the theories every few years without saying, oops, I
guess we were wrong with the last ones.
Jackie: I told you about the, well, I read an article, in fact, I haven’t sent it to Darren yet. I read an article, I think in the
Tribune. I don’t think I told you about this, but maybe I did. But it was, this article talked about the hoax of global
warming. And it mentioned two Time magazine articles. One was from 1974. And the other one was from 2006. And
the one in 1974, talked about we were going into an Ice Age. And I had to find that article, and so I did a search, and
dog-gone it, I found it. And they were talking about all the terrible weather that we were having then, the droughts and
the floods and all this unusual weather, and it was all because we were about to enter a new Ice Age. And then, you
read Time Magazine, 19, whatever it was, it was 2006, it was this year, March something. And it says, “Be Worried.
Be Very Worried.” And it tells about all the weird, wild weather. It says, it’s because of global warming. And I’m
going to send. I didn’t want to just send an article over there that talked about these articles. I found both of them,
Alan.
Alan: And that’s after, of course, the US Air Force said that they would be able to own the weather.
Jackie: We’ve got that in our weather.
Alan: It can’t be related of course, eh?
Jackie: But like you said, they just keep changing the story. And you know, from 1970 whatever, to 2006, well, heck,
people aren’t going to remember that.
Alan: No, they won’t.
Jackie: So, if you put up both articles, don’t just read an article about those articles but actually read them, you can see
the lies. You can see the lies. I’ve got both of those articles ready, and haven’t sent them over to him, and I need to do
that. You know, we’re just about out of our hour here. And so, tell our listeners whatever you would like to say.
Alan: Well, they’ve got to find themselves and then empty their minds of all the refuse and garbage that’s been instilled
of us, and start thinking for themselves. And they’ll be surprised what they come up with. We can all do it, you know, if
we want to.
Jackie: Yes, and you know what it takes, Alan. Quiet time.
Alan: Quiet time and thinking time.
Jackie: Well, you can’t think if you’ve got a radio blasting.
Alan: That’s right. All you’re doing is following an agenda.
Jackie: You can’t think if the television is blaring. So, the quiet time is the important time, that allows us to get in touch
with that part of ourselves.
Alan: Well, we’re using something we’re all given, and that’s our own brain and mind, to think with. It’s amazing how
we give it away to others to do our thinking for us. Amazing.
Jackie: Well, it is true though that without that quiet, it’s not going to happen. It can’t happen.
Alan: It can’t happen.
Jackie: And for our listeners who have small children, who, my grandchildren, they have their own little boomboxes or
whatever. They’ve got headsets and they, you know, when they’re traveling they’ll go ahead and put the headsets on.
So, nobody talks to each other. I say, take them away. Explain to the children why I did it, with the grandchildren that
summer, and said please just leave it in here and go out there and just hear the birds and hear God’s music.
Alan: And talk to each other.
Jackie: And talk to each other. So, as parents, we have responsibilities for our children. Alan, thank you for tonight.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Thank you. Folks, we’ll be back with you Wednesday night. Darren will be with you, Monday and Tuesday.
So, be sure to tune in. Good Night, folks.
June 28th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Alan, thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure on a rainy day.
Jackie: On a rainy day. Yeah, well it hasn’t rained today. It’s been very muggy, but oh, my Gosh, well, let
me put it this way. Well, and I thought about this last evening, as a matter of fact, because yesterday it
poured off and on all day, but it was just torrential. And I thought if I had planted a garden, it would all be
mush now. And the reason I wasn’t able to, of course, was because of my hand. I couldn’t get it. We had
two beautiful weeks in May, and I thought about this Alan. Dry, hot, and not humid. So, all of your winter
thaw was dried up and the farmers were out there tilling the fields, getting their crops in. People got their
gardens in, and two weeks later it started raining. And it’s never really been dry enough since. And the man
that is, well, he’s a neighbor down the road. He had some corn planted across the road, and he stopped by
today, and he said that his whole crop is flooded out, the whole crop. And, I thought to myself, well, now,
you don’t know any time it’s coincidence. We don’t ever know anymore if any weather is “natural weather”.
But doesn’t it sound like something that would be done intentionally.
Alan: Well, we know they’ve already been doing it intentionally in the past. And they’ve given the farming
areas droughts for years and then floods. And even today, amongst the thunderstorms, and the rain, when
the clouds were breaking up, you could see them still spraying between the clouds. So, they’re really going
at it.
Jackie: Yeah. As a matter of fact, it hasn’t rained all day here, and it’s raining right now, Alan. It’s their
signature.
Alan: It’s their signature. And the mosquitoes are cheering away there, you know, because they just love
this weather.
Jackie: Well, what they love is the control of the lives of people, Alan.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: And before this, as you called me before, we went on the air, and we were talking about how fast
time goes. And I had mentioned to you, that, and I just thought that we would chat about this for a minute,
because I’d like your thoughts on it. I wonder if something cosmically is going on, that has speeded up our
perception of time. And I read someplace. I don’t remember where it was or somebody told me this, that
today, 24 hours is equivalent to what 16 hours used to be. What are your thoughts on that?
Alan: It’s difficult to say, although, we do know that in different times in history, you see the Earth doesn’t
go around the sun in a definite circle. It’s more oval shaped anyway. And it doesn’t go in exactly the same
path, year after year, there’s variations. And we know at different times, down through the centuries,
they’ve had warming periods and cooling periods. And even in the Middle Ages, they didn’t bother building
chimneys at one point for two hundred years, because they didn’t need fires inside the houses. And then it
was followed by another cooling period and back in went the chimneys. So, this happens up and down.
Jackie: But, it’s a long, slow process, isn’t it?
Alan: It comes on gradually, you know, over fifty, a hundred years. And then it lasts two hundred, and then
you go back to the opposite again. So, this does definitely happen. And, of course, time itself is judged by
matter moving in space. That’s what time is. And so, it does make sense in a sense, that, since everything
else supposedly bends in space, even light bends, then it’s possible that even time could bend itself. You
know, so these are all theories that are always getting banged around. I’m sure at the very top level, they
understand it, as opposed to the bottom level Matrix, where they give us theories.
Jackie: Yeah, well, I know it isn’t just me. Because everybody I talk to has the same thing to say. They just
cannot believe how fast time is flying. The day is gone, before, I don’t know, it’s just, it’s just, it is kind of a
weird feeling, isn’t it Alan.
Alan: Again, too, it’s also, we were talking once before about the psychotronic weaponry they do admit they
have, and Brzezinski wrote about in Between Two Ages, one of the effects of the constant bombardment of
the HAARP type technologies, it’s to effect your mood, your emotion, and it’s very possible that when they
put you into a certain frame of mind, time would seem to fly by. That is true. So, if anything is happening,
I’d probably think first of all that science is doing it.
Jackie: Well, I do too. I don’t see anything today that would be what we would call natural. Even if it is, I
don’t know it, because I see that nothing is, Alan. That’s the way my own perception has become.
Alan: I was reading, now, they’re putting in genetically modified plum trees. And from these modified plum
trees, they’re going to bring out the new type of sweetener that will take over the existing ones.
Jackie: A sweet plum?
Alan: I guess so. But it’s a modified one. And I’m sure that everything we eat modifies us. That’s probably
the main objective. So, yeah, we’re being heavily re-engineered, and we have been for quite some time.
Jackie: Do you ever buy oranges at the grocery store?
Alan: I’ve done it, and they don’t taste like Orange.
Jackie: And tangerine. I can remember tangerines, when you used to go to peel it, if you’d get your nail in
there, and the skins would just fall off. And your tangerine would come apart in those little sections. Even
what they call tangerines today, they don’t peel like that. They peel more like an orange. They don’t taste
like a… I think we’ve forgotten what food tastes like, Alan.
Alan: It’s the insidiousness of it all. And I know, they admitted a few years ago in the newspapers that even
all the coffee is modified, all the coffee beans and shrubs. And the growers were forced to do it by the
purchasers. They made them change over or they wouldn’t buy from them. So, it makes you wonder why
that was a priority for the purchasers to push this stuff on all the producers. What’s the real effect of all this
modified stuff on us, you know.
Jackie: I read an article. I do not know if this article is for real. I would like to find the source of it, as
talking about the technology and that. It said that they did a test and that two cellphones, where one cell
phone called the other, and then they laid them down and put an egg in the middle. Did you read that,
Alan?
Alan: No, no.
Jackie: In an hour, the egg was cooked.
Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: Yeah, see, I don’t know either.
Alan: I doubt that. If it was that obvious, they wouldn’t give it to us. Whatever they do doesn’t have to be
so immediately obvious. So, they wouldn’t be that crazy. I’m sure they’d do it, if they could get away with
it, mind you. But certainly, the long-term use of the cell phone, I’m sure, has effects on people.
Jackie: Simply because of the waves from the transmitters, the towers, coming right in.
Alan: It’s in that frequency that the infrared is in with the microwave type frequency range.
Jackie: There you go. Well, microwaves can cook eggs. You know what? I guess it would be pretty easy
for somebody to do that test themselves, wouldn’t it?
Alan: It certainly would, if someone has got two phones. I guess that’s an addict, has one for each ear.
They want to hear in stereo.
Jackie: Or two friends. Everybody has them. I was talking to Amber before you called me, and she was,
you know, talking about her cellphone. And I said, Amber, do you know that there have been articles
written, allegedly that these are medical, you know, medically proven that cell phones can cause brain
tumors. Well, how does it do that, ma? And I said, well, I explained what I understood. I said, the towers
that the signal comes from, is being received by the phone, and it’s going right into your head, because the
phone is right next to your ear. And then she says, well, everybody has to have a cellphone, ma-ma. That’s
what she said. God, love her.
Alan: You see, that’s the problem. They bypass the older ones and go straight to the children, because the
children believe the big They, the big They up there, that seems to decide everything, would never do
anything to harm us. They truly believe that. They really believe that.
Jackie: And well, then we have parents, who you know. You know, I could see it, if it was totally only
absolutely used for an emergency. I could see that. But those are the phones they use.
Alan: I know, and of course they put more and more gadgetry on it for the youngsters to be attracted even
more to it. And actually it’s a stepping stone towards monitoring wherever you go. They admit they’re used
for that, already. And it’s a stepping stone from computer to that to the blueberry one, where it does the
internet and everything, to a chip in your body. That’s the whole, training us, step by step to the final end.
Jackie: And yes. If they can do it with the global positioning with the cars, very possibly. Now, there are
cellphones you can purchase. You don’t have to give name, address or anything, and you can buy time and
have them recharged, you know, it’s so much for so many minutes. Now, that would be something. They
might know where that phone is, but they don’t know who the heck has it.
Alan: Oh yeah they do.
Jackie: How?
Alan: Because they have every person who’s ever used a phone, they have their voice print. They’ve had
that for years.
Jackie: Okay. Hadn’t thought of that one.
Alan: Every single individual has got a voice print already recorded.
Jackie: To synthesize our voices. One night, our listeners may think they’re listening to Alan and Jackie, and
they’re listening to, whatever, synthesizing the voice.
Alan: Yeah, you see, we’re really living in the past all the time. Because the whole object of having power is
keeping power. And you keep power by never sharing all the latest with the public. In fact, you train the
public to believe that they’re on the cutting edge all the time and whatever is new in the stores is the utter
latest of its kind.
Jackie: Or they’ll say, within two years we ought to have this perfected.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: When, in fact, they’re using it on us already.
Alan: I mean, they were using solid-state circuitry, micro-circuitry back in the ’40s and ’50s, before we even
heard of a transistor. So, sure.
Jackie: Well, talking about the weather, well, we were. I wanted to let our listeners know that, I did, I was
able to send those articles over to Darren, and he’s got them posted. I thought they were important,
because, in 1974, I did mention this last week, I believe. Time magazine had an article in there called, “A
New Ice Age”, and they said that the planet had been cooling for the past several decades, and they did say
too, that the, I believe they said it, that it is a slow process. But that it looks like we’re going into a new Ice
Age. Well, then, here we are in 2006, and both of those articles are posted, so people can see them, with
their own eyes, in 2006, “Be Worried. Be Very Worried.’ And in that one, the author said, well, it used to be
thought that, you know, that global changes happen very slowly. But, suddenly, this one is on us. It’s on
us, right now.
Alan: Well, I realized how we can cut back on greenhouse gases, though.
Jackie: Quit eating beans?
Alan: No. We could do that too. But what we could also do, is for every good citizen of the planet, you see,
because we’re all global citizens now. We can only breathe half as much as we normally do. And that way,
you’re not putting so much carbon dioxide out, and you could tax joggers and people like that more for…
Jackie: Sure, for using up more oxygen.
Alan: That’s right. So, we should all practice just holding our breath, you see. And eventually, we can use
half as much air.
Jackie: Excuse me. That email has told me this. Betty usually didn’t, I don’t know, I never known of her
saying anything that she couldn’t back up. It was in a phone conversation though. But, she said it was the
Rothschilds that were cutting down these rain forests. And when you think about it, they’re behind the
environmentalist movement too, becoming their own opposition, the cutting of the rain forests. But think
about the loss of oxygen, Alan, because the trees give out. What do they give out?
Alan: Oh, they give out oxygen.
Jackie: And take in the carbon.
Alan: Dioxide.
Jackie: Well, that’s a lot of trees, Alan.
Alan: But, you know, a lot of it is overblown, as well. It truly is. You know.
Jackie: A lot of what?
Alan: The propaganda we’re given to make us believe things. That they’re cutting down the rain forests, and
clearing it all, yada-yada-ya. Because, I mean, if you come into Canada for instance, just go north of
Toronto, and once you get past the farming lands, you’re going to see nothing but forests for hundreds of
miles in all directions. And they do timber it. They don’t clear cut. They timber though. And you know,
there’s plenty of trees, and so on. They’re always getting us panicking about something or other. That
doesn’t mean that they’ve never clear cut in the past. They’ll always show you the same pictures over and
over to give the youngsters the wrong point of view.
Jackie: To get them to be environmentalists.
Alan: Yeah, I’ve seen the same scene of a clear cut they’ve used for donkey’s years in one place in BC, you
know. They keep showing you the same one, over and over and over, in all the propaganda talks that they
have. But a lot of it’s definitely overblown. Because they’re always creating crisis. Most crises are not based
on fact. It’s like the bird flu.
Jackie: And then they get people sending money to save the rain forest.
Alan: I know, a lot of people fell for that.
Jackie: Well, I’ve fallen for almost all of them. I adopted little tortoises. What else did I adopt, something
else that was becoming endangered. I sent a donation, Alan, when they were refurbishing the gift that what
got from the Grand Orient Lodge, the Statue of Liberty. I sent a fifty-dollar donation, because I thought it
was so cool that they were doing that.
Alan: That’s a lot of brass-o, yeah. But, no, they’ve always got us doing something, and we’re always at the
bottom of the ladder in the knowledge field, and there’s always a scam going on somewhere. If nothing else
they’re scamming our mind, as well as our wallet. But it’s primarily the mind. They rob us of our mind, you
see. To come to any factual conclusion, you must be supplied with all facts. We never are. We never are.
Jackie: Right, you know something. This thought just happened in my mind. I was just like, I wasn’t just
like everybody else. I never have been. I mean, I didn’t go along with the crowd. I didn’t go along with
styles. But I believed in all this stuff. I’ve told you this. I’ve said it on the air. I was so wrapped up in, in
their lies, well, you know, like adopting little turtles, and having people call their US congressmen to stop a
terrible bill, and all of this stuff. And suddenly, it’s almost like, when I did wake up, it was like with a bang.
And I wonder that if maybe I went through this, so that I can relate to people who are there. Where I was,
I can relate to it, Alan.
Alan: See, there are so many ways of viewing reality. And it all depends on how you’ve been indoctrinated,
by the establishment. They give you a version of reality. That’s why people can’t fathom out that anything
would be done to them to hurt them, if they’ve swallowed their 6 o’clock news reality and their education
reality. They can never figure it out, so that the big boys have all contingencies planned for themselves.
Because, number one, they must always save themselves, if there was something real. They have
underground places they could live for centuries, probably, if they did anything on top of the planet. They
have Arks, and it’s been on television, from the World Wildlife Fund. They have these big places they call
arks, where they have the seed of the planet, they have the genes of every single animal and insect you
could imagine and plant, stored, and they call them arks. And one of them is in Louisiana. And these are
huge cryogenic facilities. And they’ve successfully, on the public broadcasting program I watched, they’ve
successfully implanted them, different species of animals, after being cryogenically frozen, at least their
sperm and the ovum, and implanted other animals and brought them to term. So, they can make anything
reappear on this planet they wish to.
Jackie: Do you think, do you suppose maybe the story of Noah’s Ark was a story of the same? I mean,
really, when you think about it, an Ark that was big enough, two of every single animal on the planet, and
you had to feed them, and you had to get rid of their…
Alan: The muck. Well, that’s why Noah, Noah, the first thing he did when he hit land was to grow a vineyard
and get drunk. He needed a break from all that, you see.
Jackie: If I’m not mistaken, I think that Jehovah was, smelled the sweet savor of cooking meat, and was
glad.
Alan: Well, it got me too. I mean, how did they sacrifice if they only had two of everything, because if you’d
sacrificed everything, you’d only have one left.
Jackie: Yes. Well, maybe they took enough for the sacrifice.
Alan: Well, I guess they must have. But yeah, I tell you, it’s such a…
Jackie: Do you think that that was an… I mean, we know the story. It has to be an allegory, but do you
think that would be a possibility that the same thing happened another time, and that they already had that
technology?
Alan: Well, I don’t know about that technology, if they were that far. We don’t know. There’s a lot of
modern books, more into the fiction than reality. However, we do know that peoples in past times have had
safe places, where they have stored grain and food and stuff like that in mountains. We know that the
Sumerians came from the highlands, and even the grain that they planted was brought from the highlands.
It was much older. So, they brought that with them too. So, most ancient peoples have records of
catastrophes and surviving, and having these store places for food, etc. That’s definitely been done before.
However, this thing with the Arks. Now, that’s just the World Wildlife Fund, that’s headed by Prince Philip.
And the facility in Louisiana was a multi-million dollar facility, run by a professor, who also teaches at a
university there. So, these are not little, little, these are serious things. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the
space station, the international space station, ISS or Isis, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another ark, you
know. See, you can get most of the stuff for the planet in a huge deep freeze, you know.
Jackie: Yeah, I guess you could, couldn’t you, if it was DNA.
Alan: And it sure saves mucking out the byre type thing. There’s no mucking out doing there.
Jackie: So, what have you been up to?
Alan: Oh, just trying to survive, basically, and get done what has to be done out. Between just living and
cooking and on the phone to people, talking to people, just getting by really. Just getting by.
Jackie: Yes. It’s interesting you say that. You know, cooking. It does take up a lot of your time, and you
have to eat.
Alan: Yeah, the basics.
Jackie: And then you have the mess you made, and that has to be cleaned up. And I thought about that. I
thought, geez, if you had all the time you spent, you know, preparing your meals. You’d have more time to
spend to do stuff.
Alan: Well, they’ll do that for us eventually. We’ll be like Seven-of-nine. When we’re all one, you see, we’re
all linked to the one computer, you’ll just go into a cubicle at night, and you’ll get fed intravenously, and
programmed for the next day’s tasks. And so, we won’t have to go through all of this. That’s what they’ve
got planned.
Jackie: You know that for sure. I mean, you’ve actually read this?
Alan: That’s what the brain chip is all about. That’s what the Loyola meetings were all about, the worldwide
meetings they held at university was about that very topic.
Jackie: We’d get an injection in the place of meals.
Alan: Oh, yeah. I mean, ultimately, you’ll run on what they will say is total efficiency. And at the moment,
according to the big boys, we’re just too inefficient, and they must make us evolve, you see, to the—the
great leap forward is to be done scientifically. It always was to be done scientifically. And that’s what they
mean by that. They’ll make us far more efficient as creatures or servants, you might say, and that’s what
they have in store. They have a brain chip eventually for everything. All we’re doing is being trained, step
by step to the next step, to the next step, until what’s the big deal if they put a chip in your head, and you
can see a movie in your optic centers, you know, inside your head. That’s where it’s all to go. That’s not the
real reason to give it to you. That’s the bait to get you to take it. But eventually, you’ll just get fed
intravenously.
Jackie: Well, they could give you enough calories.
Alan: Oh, yeah. And they can also alter your whole metabolism.
Jackie: Okay, so in other words, the body would be so modified by that time, if it ever happens.
Alan: Oh, it’s going to happen. I mean, all the science magazines, the science magazines for the last twenty
years have had articles out on the different kinds of humans that they can make if they want to. Right now.
Jackie: I know that, but, you know, just because it’s what they intend and it’s what they’re planning, and
that it looks like they’re so infallible, but we don’t know that it’s going to happen.
Alan: Right now there’s nothing to stop them. In fact, the children who are maybe five, six right now, or ten
even, wouldn’t mind if they could become like the heroes in their comic books or their movies.
Jackie: Well, is this for sure going to happen? Why are we wasting time?
Alan: As a counter force, as a counter force, because at least if people hear what we’re saying. If people
don’t speak out and point out what should be obvious to people, then the people won’t know to tell their
children.
Jackie: But, if you are convinced that it is going to happen, let me tell you something, Alan. If I was
convinced it was going to happen, I wouldn’t be doing this radio broadcast.
Alan: You see, they’ve already got a guy with a brain chip in Britain, that Professor Warwick, I think his name
is. Now, whether he’s really got it, I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s a PR stunt to get us used to the idea, or
what, you know. But I know back in the ’50s and ’60s they were doing it with animals, the same thing.
Jackie: Is this the guy that walks into his office, and the computer turns on?
Alan: I think so.
Jackie: He gets every, I mean, instead of having to put a print or something to open the door, the doors
open for him.
Alan: Initially, I think he had one in his arm. But now, supposedly, he’s got one in his brain, you know.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. I think that’s when I read it. He had one in his arm. Alan, now you said there’s nothing
to stop them, it is going to happen.
Alan: There’s nothing to stop them.
Jackie: But wait. We’re going to have to take a break here. And I’d like you to tell me, when we get back
on the other side, why you’re doing everything you’re doing.
Alan: I just told you, because someone has to tell them the other side of the story.
Jackie: Why, if it’s going to happen?
Alan: A lot of people will go for this. Just like they’ve gone for the cell phone. You can’t stop them.
Jackie: When you say it’s going to happen, there’s nothing we can do to stop it.
Alan: You can’t stop it. You can’t stop people going ahead.
Jackie: In other words, you’re not saying it’s going to be a global thing and that nobody will escape it.
Alan: That’s right. I mean, eventually, there are people who will hang out against everything. And then,
then it comes, the final thing. They don’t like forcing people to do things. They prefer to make it impossible
for you not to. That’s how they get round things. But already, I mean, the biggest fad in the world right
now is for the cashless chips to get inserted in youngsters’ arms. And they started that, it first started, I
think, in Holland for nightclubs. So, you get a prepaid amount of money swiped into this chip that’s
implanted in your arm, and you can get into this really hot club, you know. Now they’ve got one in Spain
opening. It’s opened up, they’re doing the same there. And the company that’s doing it, is based, I think in
California. And the guy who happens to be the head of this company, getting all the youngsters in, using
sex, it’s the old hormonal drive again. If you want the hottest places to meet the opposite sex, you must go
to these big clubs, the hottest clubs out.
Jackie: And you can’t get into the clubs without the chip?
Alan: That’s right. And so you can just charge the chip with so many dollars, and you don’t have to pay
money for a drink. It’s deducted automatically from your chip.
Jackie: They would scan you in other words.
Alan: And this is the big trend. And the guy who is out promoting this, just happens, just happens, listen to
this, to be an ex-member of the NSA. (Chuckle) What a coincidence.
Jackie: Well, they have a revolving door, anyway, we know that. They go from one.
Alan: Well, he’s still working for the NSA. I mean the NSA, they want everybody chipped. That’s the bottom
line. So, here you, all you do is dress it up and make it sexy. And the youngsters go for it, because they’re
driven by hormones and not their head.
Jackie: I think it would be very good, if when you’re on a program, that if you say something like that that
you would qualify it. Because, the way it’s said, it’s going to happen. It’s real nonchalant, and there’s
nothing to stop them.
Alan: Yeah, but you’ve got to accept that never in this world has the whole population of this planet said no
about anything. It’s never happened before.
Jackie: I understand, but what I’m saying is, I don’t think it’s your intention to put people in a mindset of just
hopelessness, because, I, I don’t know if you’re aware of how people hang on your words. They listen to
you. And they take you very seriously.
Alan: Yeah, but they do know, they do know this, you know, that this is the next step. The thinkers already
know this. They already know this.
Jackie: I don’t think you’re getting what I’m saying.
Alan: I do hear you. But the thing is, the thinkers already know it. And I think the thinkers already know
that I’m not saying this is going to be inevitable for everybody. Now, it might come to a time where they try
and pass it all by law, you know. That might happen. I don’t know. They’d prefer it not, though. And right
now, it’s promoted through all their movies. You can’t watch a sci-fi movie now without seeing all this stuff
in it. And that’s what they said at Loyola. They would promote it through movies, cartoons, novels, you
know, and make this an exciting thing to have. So, you’re in a world where most parents don’t even
communicate to their children. In fact, the parents would be, you know, shocked, if they found out even
what the children are being taught at school. Because they get taught about this kind of stuff and the
coming scientific age, etc. So, that’s your big problem. The parents have already, in fact, the parents, they
just pay for the upkeep of the children. And, like Bertrand Russell said, he said, the state will indoctrinate
them. So, you get the state and the media in cahoots. And they sure do get indoctrinated well.
Jackie: Well, I guess that if I thought that it was inevitable, I would spend my time doing the things that I
like to do. You know, I would start taking tap lessons again, and I’d start painting, and I would totally spend
the time in pleasantry. And in my mind, knowing, that with God, Creator, all things are possible. And you’ve
said it yourself, they’ve never, ever succeeded, and they’re not going to this time. It doesn’t mean that there
isn’t going to be a lot of bloodshed and a lot of, you know, all of what we’ve talked about going on. But for
them to be successful, I doubt it.
Alan: Well, even to be successful, they’ve got to get…
Jackie: Everyone.
Alan: Well, they’ve got to get at least 65% of the public to agree with them or to go along with it.
Jackie: Well, thank you for that.
Alan: And that’s generally what they’ve always. They can pretty well always. In all polls that are taken,
there’s really the same percentage really that you’ll find go along with anything. Just to get along. And so,
they can always count on those people.
Jackie: Remember we talked about, there’s two things that made me think of Brave New World. No, excuse
me, Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell’s book. When I said it one time to you, I said, one thing I didn’t
understand in that book is why they went to all the trouble to torture and torture and torture Winston, until
he finally said, yes. He had to, yes, I love Big Brother. And then killing him. And you said, because if
there’s one holdout, they’re not successful.
Alan: If there’s one holdout, there’s a flaw in their whole belief system.
Jackie: Exactly. So, there we go, Alan. That’s another way of looking at it, isn’t?
Alan: Oh, it is. There’s no doubt with this bunch that are in power that do think they’re gods, they won’t be
happy until every knee bends. That’s a fact. And one person standing up, or turning their back on them is
enough to set them off on a rage, you know. See, it’s interesting. See, people have always sought for a
god, always, down through the ages. And because the individual has a natural… It’s like Carl Jung said, he
said, you can’t weigh this, this fact, or feel it or see it or touch it or quantify it in any regular scientific way,
but, because everybody, all down through the ages, has occasionally felt, there’s something else beyond all
of this. And then, of course, they gave you the priesthoods to use that need, and control you with your own
need, you see. So, that’s always been there. So, when you take away all deities, all of that, even the old
deities that serve them well, the controllers, that inclination is still there. That’s why they gave the New Age
for the New Agers for the Age of Aquarius. They gave it, they gave it to them, you see. And all this oneness
stuff. And they will be one, if they all want to get hooked up to the same computer. Good luck to them, you
know. But, this craving or need to know that there’s something else beyond you. If they can destroy that,
that connection, then there’s nothing between you and them as Gods. And they always said that they would
make the state God. They always, even Communists said that. They’d eradicate all the deities and make
themselves god over the people. And that’s still what they want to do, worldwide, same thing. And so for
them to be worshiped as Gods.
Jackie: So, those in the state are mini-gods, huh?
Alan: Oh, yeah. And that’s what they want. Eventually, down the road, they want an obedient population
that will obey the white-coated scientists, the new priesthood, and just do what they’re told when these
white-coated scientists speak and order them about. That’s what they’re really after. And it’s so interesting
that science is so close to séance.
Jackie: It puts people in a trance?
Alan: Well, it is interesting that all these big, high chutzpahs in the religions, I’m talking about the esoteric
ones at the top, they’re all into channeling, you know. And you look at the supposed knowledge that’s come
through channeling, it’s all scientific stuff. It’s all to do with science. And a lot of the so-called famous
scientists were into this. Even going back to the 1500s. So, there’s something to this. Where does
knowledge come from? Where does knowledge, and sometimes even, thought, where does it come from?
They’ve never been able to pinpoint in the brain how you are you. What makes you, you? As an individual.
They know if they can damage the part of the brain, you can’t move this or you can’t move that, or even
your ability to speak, in a motor sense, is malfunctioned. But they can’t pinpoint the ghost in the machine.
Jackie: The ghost in the machine.
Alan: And so, that’s been a big debate as well. But it also makes you wonder, where did these guys get their
thoughts from. What motivates them?
Jackie: Well, you know you’ve said before, and I could not argue with this, even in my mind. I don’t think
they’re human.
Alan: Whatever is in them isn’t human. There’s no doubt about that, it’s anti-human. It’s elitist to an insane
degree. It’s psychopathic, no doubt whatsoever. No empathy. And so, sure enough, from all those aspects,
whatever is in them, is not human.
Jackie: Well, and maybe we talked about this on the air. It wouldn’t hurt repeating, but when, when we first
of all, the sense of or feeling of compassion. But when we are emotionless, the emotions are what makes us
human maybe. Without emotion, they have no energy. And I’ve thought about this, and maybe it sounds
left-field or la-la land or whatever. Well, I said it a long time ago, but I really didn’t feel it and see it, the
way that I do today, that what drives the machine, what drives the plan is the energy that they can initiate.
In other words, anything negative, anything that isn’t of love, and that would be, you know, compassion and
kindness, and consideration, etc, etc. But anything that isn’t of that is, is fear. But the negative. It’s the
negative energy. And I believe that they use the negativity, the negative energy that they can initiate in
people. I believe that that’s what’s driving the whole plan, Alan.
Alan: What it is, it’s an alchemical process. That’s what they call it in the high esoteric circles.
Jackie: Okay, well expand on that please.
Alan: The earliest form of control was initiated through abuse and the outcome of abuse. And so, horror,
fear, worry, terror, can be exploited to a neurotic degree, until you have a Pavlovian system. You change
that which is natural into the unnatural system. And that’s the alchemical process. And there’s so many
ways that they couch this, of bringing heaven to Earth, or the union of the Sun and the Moon, that’s the old
Rosicrucian Union of the hermaphrodite too, as above, so below. It’s even in the New Testament written
carefully in there.
Jackie: Where it says male and female, may he them?
Alan: No. It’s written in the New Testament. It’s in there too, where they talk about, what you loose in
heaven, you also loose on Earth and vice versa. That’s a spell, you know. And these are all alchemical
processes of loosening the higher powers into the earth or onto the earth, but controlled through the few,
who understand the process. This is what they used to call high magic at one time.
Jackie: Alchemical. A-L?
Alan: And of course, the bottom degrees of all these esoteric groups still maintain – of course, they don’t
know the truth, at the bottom. They still maintain that it’s a self-improvement thing, where you arise up
Jacob’s Ladder, to heaven, by self-improvement. They don’t realize that it’s much bigger than that. It’s
literally a form of bringing the seething powers of Lucifer, if you understand what that means, and again, in
the esoteric tradition, it’s loosing that within society, through the chosen ones, the higher initiates.
Jackie: The power of Lucifer, if you understand what that means. Well, would you explain what you
understand it to mean, please.
Alan: Well, Lucifer to them, is an intelligence, a great, phenomenal intelligence that manifests itself through
logic and science, basically. Logic, science, what used to be called magic was just advanced science. And
that only the wise ones with the higher capacity intellects could access it and be used by it successfully. And
so, of course that’s what they mean. That’s what Albert Pike said in his Morals and Dogma, when they loose
the seething powers of Lucifer.
Jackie: What powers?
Alan: Seething.
Jackie: Seething?
Alan; Yeah, like a seething sea, you know. And that’s what he means by that. And even in Catholicism,
you’ll find that Satan and Lucifer were not one and the same entities. They were two different entities or
beings, because the whole story is the esoteric tradition of the occult. The whole Old Testament is. And
unfortunately, so is the new.
Jackie: So, when you said, Jehovah is Lucifer. You’re talking about the…
Alan: No, Jehovah, actually in the high esoteric is the God of the World, or the Demiurgos, which the Greeks
called him. In other words, although they respect the God of the World, and the natural laws, it’s their job
to overcome those laws through science. And so, they always put, they always give great respect to
Jehovah for having the natural laws for a primitive people by the way. That’s why it’s written in there. In
the New Testament, you follow the laws of Moses, because you were base then. You know, they meant
primitive. And I give you the New Covenant. So, this is an ongoing tradition of esoteric religion, going back
for many thousands of years.
Jackie: Thousands. Maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. Because you know what, I just wonder
if this whole thing reaches to a certain point at a certain time, then it starts all over again.
Alan: Well, they always talk about their thousand years of peace, until again.
Jackie: For seven years. What does that, what would be the interpretation of that?
Alan: It means that there’s a form of Utopia. Now, when they talk about Utopia, remember, it’s their Utopia,
their plan they’re talking about. It’s a hell on earth for everyone else.
Jackie: Well, not really a hell on earth, because they’re so zoned out, they’re gone, Alan.
Alan: Well, from their point of view, remember there’s two ways of looking at everything they give you. And
so they see it from their point of view, where they’ll have their thousand years of peace.
Jackie: Peace for them, yes. But when you think about it, if it came to this point, those who are left here,
who are under that spell. Can you hear that storm?
Alan: Yeah, yeah.
Jackie: Part of that system.
Alan: That’s Jehovah listening to you, you know.
Jackie: That’s Jehovah, he didn’t like that.
Alan: He’s banging his feet on the sky there.
Jackie: I’m going to get smote, Alan.
Alan: Oh, you’ll be smitten.
Jackie: Now I lost my train of thought. Shoot.
Alan: But that’s what it’s all about. You see, the whole thing is an esoteric tradition. It’s down through the
ages. The esoteric makes conformity for the elite to rule society. But they always carry their esoteric
traditions through it. But it’s all written within there, if you understand it.
Jackie: Well, I understand. Well, I know that you said that a jillion times. Very few of us understand it. So,
it’s really nice that you pick these parts and then help us understand what it means, symbolically to them, or
esoterically. I’m going back in our conversation here for a minute, where we were talking about, there will
be people who just won’t be part of the system. And that, they don’t really care. They’ll just make it very
difficult not to be.
Alan: That’s what they do.
Jackie: Anita Hoge said that to me at one time. She said, they don’t care, Jackie if some people live in caves
and have their children natural childbirth, which no medical, no dental, you know, just living like primitives
again. And think about Brave New World and think about Nineteen Eighty-Four. In Nineteen Eighty-Four,
there were the proles. And, maybe you could explain, what the Proles were, because it was different than
the other society in Brave New World.
Alan: Well, the Proles in Orwell’s, were the Common people. The people most spied upon in a controlled
society are the enablers, the helpers of the top controllers. In other words, all the bureaucrats.
Jackie: Because the Proles didn’t have those televisions.
Alan: Well, they were also pretty well uneducated too. They were entertained, no doubt, etc.
Jackie: Do you know what blew me away about when I was reading about the Proles? These ladies they
think, out in the backyard, hanging up their clothes. I hang my clothes up.
Alan: Yeah, and what’s interesting too…
Jackie: Listen. They were talking about how to pick the winning lottery number. And I thought, oh my God,
this book was written in 1948. And they had this lottery planned for us.
Alan: And you know why they had it planned. You see, the poor man, he watches all the fame and fortune
going on in the movie industry and all this kind of stuff, of what he thinks are self-made people, and thinks
that’s what it is, the Great Delusion, because no one gets up there into the big boys’ league, unless they
bring you up. So, they give you the lotto. Now, you know why they call it the lotto?
Jackie: No, say.
Alan: Well, because the Pope, who gave the Knights Templar their Charter, was called Lotha, in the
Germanic French version, they call him Lotho. His real name was Lothario. And the name for the lotto in
Ontario is called Lottario. Just coincidence, of course. And, of course, Ontario, on the postal code, is ONT,
which is Order of New Templars.
Jackie: Okay, but going back to Lotto, okay, you said that the Pope handed out what to the Knights
Templars?
Alan: The charter.
Jackie: Okay, but wasn’t there some kind of a selective system. It seems to me I read about this
somewhere, or maybe you were talking about it. Because, the Lotto today is a game of chance.
Alan: It is. And of course, it’s a scam, as everyone should know.
Jackie: And how does that relate to his name? That’s what I’m wanting to know.
Alan: Gambling. Again, it goes back to the scam. It means, it literally means a scam. And the Knights
Templars became the biggest bankers of Europe at the time, remember, and a good part of the Middle East
too. They became, in fact, they were the first real bankers, international bankers, who brought in a checking
society. You could use checks with them. And they would give you notes instead of the gold. And you
could cash them in in one of their banks in the Middle East.
Jackie: They carried paper around in their pockets that signified their wealth, yes?
Alan: That’s right. And of course, they were the only ones who could charge interest, as well, so they really
were the start of the modern banking industry. And they didn’t have to pay taxes as well, that’s another
thing.
Jackie: Well, what about the money changers in the temple? I thought that was the world bank at the time?
Alan: Oh, they were left to take the heat. They were left to take the heat, while the Knights Templars
gobbled up the Lion’s share, and when you look at the old maps of Europe, you’d be surprised at how much
land they owned all over Europe. They were, if they hadn’t been stopped, they would have ended up
owning Europe.
Jackie: And who stopped them?
Alan: Well, it was a King Phillip in France that started, he invited them up there, supposedly on the pretense
for a loan, and the Grand Master Mollee came up with a bunch of them, and he imprisoned them.
Jackie: And didn’t he put out an edict that they were, they had to disband them?
Alan: Well, the pope eventually did put out an edict, because, when they found out, this was, this strange
Christian Knighthood, remember, they were also a priesthood, first and foremost, and they were knights
second. That’s more important, really. And what came out, and had been coming out for a long time, was
the strange practices. And they were also connected with the Old Man of the Mountain, that was the head
of the Hassassins, or Hashashins, they called them, of the Middle East, who had been running that branch of
the occult for a long, long time. They’d become brotherhoods together.
Jackie: Well, did you say that the Knights Templars were, oh, what is the word when they, like the nuns and
the priests?
Alan: Oh, celibate you mean?
Jackie: Celibate. Did you say that they were celibate?
Alan: No, they didn’t. They were sworn to relieve each other’s sexual tensions.
Jackie: And that’s where the term dog priest came in?
Alan: Oh, long before that. They used the dog priests even in ancient Israel. You can see that on their
temple walls, where you turn right for the female house of prostitution and left for the male one. And they
say the same in Greece too. They all had the same religion in ancient times, that’s the big kicker.
Jackie: And today. My, my, Alan, what’s new?
Alan: Well, I know.
Jackie: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Alan: Well, they change through the Knights Templar.
Jackie: We’re almost out of our hour. I heard the music, dog-gone it.
Alan: Dog on it, eh.
Jackie: Yeah. Dog on it. Okay, well, that just was interesting tonight. I don’t know. So, the storm is over.
Alan: The storm is over. At least you won’t be electrocuted on the phone.
Jackie: Well, I’m on my headset. I don’t think I’m prone to electric shock on this thing. I think you have to
be on a landline, don’t you.
Alan: I would think so.
Jackie: Yeah, it’s real interesting though that now that the broadcast is over the storm is over.
Alan: Well, that’s you see. It’s all timed that way.
Jackie: Okay, Alan, well, you take care.
Alan: And you too.
Jackie: Thank you for tonight.
Alan: Bye now.
Jackie: Bye.
March 1st, 2006
Alan Watt (Solo) on
“Sweet Liberty”
Good Evening, ladies and gentleman, this is Alan Watt, standing in for Jackie Patru, who has sinusitis right
now, probably due to the chemtrails that are being stepped up across the country. And I’ve got it too,
actually, but we’ll struggle through this hour. I talked to Jackie about half an hour ago. There’s no real
format for this broadcast. Generally there never is. We just go off the cuff, so you’ll have to persevere as I
let loose whatever comes to my mind. This is the first of March, and it’s 2006. We just witnessed the end of
the Olympic games. I don’t know if you watched the end of it. I don’t watch the games, I watch the
beginning and the end ceremonies, because they’re highly telling with the occultic symbology they use in
your face. And, of course, it was held in Turin, in the North of Italy, this year. And Turin used to be a
stronghold of some of the ancient Cathars and so on, and Albigensians. And at the end ceremony, they
showed you the oval, the oval rink or arena. Arena comes from Aaron, of course, the priest, high priest,
circle. And it’s an oval shape, and they showed you the big flaming obelisk type tower, with intertwined
serpents, really, intertwined, snaking up the tower. And the fire coming out of the top, symbolizing the fire
of the regenerative force, or the issue from the phallus, basically. Which you’ll see on many Masonic
obelisks across the country. They put one up for Kennedy after he was assassinated in Dallas. And that’s
got not a real flame shooting out, just a stone one. I guess that’s because he was shot stone dead.
In this particular closing ceremony, they had dancers, hundreds of dancers dressed up, like Tarot cards, and
the commentator said, it’s because this region at one time was heavily into the Tarot card reading, and
actually had permission apparently at one time to use them from the church and then it was withdrawn
again, and then they were persecuted. And then the dancers made a circle of course, the eternal circle.
And then they made a five-pointed star, which is the Masonic five-pointed star that you see, between wall
and mart, Wal-Mart, you’ll see it in Freemasonry. You’ll see it on the American flag and many others. That’s
fire, air, earth, water, and of course, the added element is spirit. And they claim that the profane, the
majority of the public don’t have spirit, so you only get four points instead of five if you’re the average
profane, you see. So I watched this Masonic parade, with other actors being dressed up as red flames
themselves, and going around this arena. It’s quite fascinating to watch how everything is put right in front
of your eyes, and the majority of the public listen to the songs that are played and might even dance to
them, but they don’t really know what they’re watching, or participating in, even, if they’re actually there.
But the world is full of a particular hidden religion’s symbology. It is all around us. It’s in all main logos of
your major companies and corporations. Carefully hidden or slightly altered pyramids and triangles, and you
have the double X, of course of Exxon Valdez, and you have the Crux Ansata, etc, etc, etc.
So, we live in a world where we take everything for granted, simply because all of that which is around us
exists. You’re born into it. And like all mammals, you look to your parents, your guardians, to warn you of
danger. And if your parents were thoroughly brainwashed, then they don’t warn you. They don’t know.
And then the child grows up thinking everything must have evolved this way, quite naturally. And that’s how
easy they keep this type of system going, where as Lenin himself, who really had the best education by the
top bankers on the planet, because they had to create an opposition to create change, directed change that
is. Lenin himself said that the public must never know that mankind could go off in a thousand different
directions. They had to believe the one they were born and live in is a natural evolution, and do it
unquestioningly. And we do. We’re born into it. And so we go through this strange existence we call life,
where immediately you’ll see your national symbols flashed in front of you at school, or on television. You
learn very quickly that soldiers are somehow special, if you’re a little boy. And now it’s little girls too, of
course. And people who come from no background at all, at the very bottom of the ladder, will get
somehow respect from the top of their country, and all the citizenry, if they wear this one form, this uniform.
And they never question it from there on. We don’t question what we’re even taught at school, or even why
we’re at school, or who designed the school system, and who does it serve.
And of course, what we’re living in, as Karl Marx said, it’s an economic system. Every system since they call
the birth of civilization is actually an economic system. And by that, they call it civilization. Meaning, it was
an organized priesthood, or many priesthoods, specialized ones, like bureaucrats, from the days of Sumer
onwards, that also handled money in the form of gold measure, or later on, gold coin, and of course,
controlled trade. And through trade, they created little factory towns, in ancient Phoenicia, for instance. So
it’s never really stopped. And they even had Free Trade in ancient Phoenicia, if you think it’s a brand new
idea. They were already standardizing the coinage weight internationally in ancient times by the
Phoenicians. And they wouldn’t trade eventually. Once they got you hooked on trade, and having your little
toy beads coming in, and all this kind of stuff, and even porn. They exported porn which was chiseled or
baked in clay with little cartoon characters, and I guess they even gave a prize to their own version of Hugh
Hefner in those days. They exported all the same stuff that’s come down through the ages. And at the
same time, they brought other priests with them to give them the opposite of the porn, etc, meaning sin and
this is how you pay your god off with little bribes, called offerings, and maybe you’ll be allowed to continue
with your little sins in secret.
Right up until the present day, we’ve been controlled by an economic system they call civilization. They say
it has a plan. It’s called progress. No one, you’ll find, defines for us what progress is. Or those who keep
talking about progress never define it for us, I should say. Whose progress? A progress to what ends and
to serve whom? Because we really are being shaped in a very ancient plan that the high occultists, and high
occultists, you cannot buy their books in the regular bookstores. The high occultists own all the big
publishing companies that churn out the rubbish for the people. They have their own inner archives for
themselves, and for their offspring, who take over from them. They said that this Great Work, this great
plan to perfect all that was imperfect, left imperfect by the Grand Architect of the Universe, began 4,500
thousand years ago. And this is this part of the plan, because there’s many hints of previous ages and
destructions, and so on. Possibly brought about by the same priesthoods, who keep trying over and over
again.
And that’s why, when Sumer came on the scene, for instance, it didn’t evolve slowly, from guys dragging
their knuckles across the desert floor like apes. No, they arrived on the scene with many bureaucracies as
priests. A pantheon of deities to rule every part of a person’s life. A full economic system with trade,
internationally, in fact. They even traded with India. We’re talking about 5,000 BC or so. And they didn’t
learn this from picking it up piece by piece. You could even get a baked receipt from the supermarket, the
open air market, and you got it in fifteen minutes, which when the computer breaks down at your
supermarket, could maybe be a bit faster than the present.
So, we’re talking about an understanding of commerce, science and control of the mind of populations, to
make people accept slavery, and a definite caste system. A caste system, where you have an inbred elite,
even at the days of Sumer. And that’s come right down to the present day. We see it in India too, with the
Brahmans, who claim to be more perfected physically, through their selective breeding, and, of course, they
claim they have the best, highest spirits, reincarnated forever, to the present time. And we are going into an
age now, we’re into it actually, where the same mystery religion that ran all of the ancient world, is
controlling us, shaping our minds, because they laid the foundations for this a long time ago. They shape
the mind for years in advance, before the public even know their minds are being directed in a certain
direction, and hence the New Age was brought in, ultimately, in the 1960s, first written about in the
magazine called the New Age, which was the main publication of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. That
was the title of it, the New Age. And they prepare the fields, which is your mind. They leave it fallow, then
they plow it, then they harrow it, then they sift it, then they plant the seed. It can take generations to get
the crop that they want, but they have it today.
And people haven’t really noticed the rather quick changeover, where in many bookstores, major bookstores,
the large shelves, which contained hundreds of the regular Christian books and so on, have all disappeared,
and they’re all full of the New Age books. They think these authors just spontaneously arise, but they don’t.
And it’s because the mind was shaped long ago for the readers, the present-day readers to accept this new
philosophy. Albert Pike, who was the Pope of Freemasonry, the world Pope of Freemasonry, in the late
1800s, and wrote the main treatise on it, Morals and Dogma, for those 33 and below, even though he
himself was much higher and belonged to higher groups, stated in there, he says, that we have been behind
every major revolution in the world. He said, and we never fail, because we always lay the groundwork. We
never begin a premature revolution. And that goes with all change in society, because most revolutions are
cultural revolutions. They’re non-bloody, such as the sexual revolution, the feminist, etc, etc. These are
non-bloody, but they take a long time to work behind the scenes, prepare the ground, and eventually have
everyone accept the new norm. This is part of ongoing revolution, which in high Masonry they call struggle.
“I struggle.” That’s why you find that even Adolf Hitler called it Mein Kampf, My Struggle. It’s all Masonic,
you see. All sides are Masonic in every battle. Without battle, you cannot have change.
And the laws of nature, being in opposition to each other, such as winter vs. summer and fall vs. spring,
show this. And of course, 4,500 B.C. with the beginning of this part of the Great Work, to perfect that which
was left imperfect, they said they’d have to use the laws of nature. And change in society, the sheep, you
see, the great mass of people are called sheep in all ages, and they have good shepherds, the sheep will not
go in the direction they want them to go. In fact they won’t move at all, unless there is a conflict between
two sides, on either side. And that way, they’re directed to the next pasture, which is the next part of the
age. So, the ancient occultists, above what we know as Freemasonry, who have guided all of this, are
simply destroying the old structure. They are builders, remember, they build society, and they build culture.
They’re moving from the stage they’ve been at and used successfully for the last couple of thousand years,
of Christianity in different varieties and forms. And they’re dismantling it, of course, they’ve been
dismantling it for a while. It’s served its purpose. It kept the people obedient to a caste system in Europe,
with kings and queens and aristocracy and nobility. They made sure that in the King James version, they
put in there that all government comes from God, just to make sure that they would obey, you see.
And the oddest thing of course, down through the ages, is that these European countries, where the people
were always recruited, given uniforms, often the first new clothing they’d ever had in their life, and became
suddenly respectable, before they went off to get slaughtered. It’s awfully strange that the same techniques
which were used then are still used today. They could never really click. They never thought that, how
come they shouldn’t kill, and yet, it was okay to kill when their governments actually encouraged it. Not only
that, you get medals for doing it, if you live that long, that is. And you would have eventually ticker-tape
parades, and you’d be held up for your five minutes in the sun, before you were cast off into the streets
without a pension. So, this is the reality of this incredible system, including its history, which we’re given.
How they can actually indoctrinate you never to stand up to a tyrannical system in your own country, and
even when it is tyrannical, they can tell you to believe in god, and god’s watching you, and don’t kill. But
when they tell you to go and kill for economic reasons, for the elite abroad somewhere, the men just rush
off. That’s a tribal technique, a tribal instinct, which the elite understand. They bring out the symbols, the
brass bands, or the bagpipes or whatever it is, and the young guys, who run on hormones, and cannot think,
they’re too young to know what’s going on, they don’t even know who they are themselves at that age, run
off, and either win or lose, although the elite never win or lose, you’ll notice. Generally, the countries’
leaders of both sides will share the loot, the booty, as they used to call it. Where the people, it kept the
populations down. So, war fulfilled many functions.
In the 20th Century war was preordained by Albert Pike and others, of various high Masonic institutes, who
wrote about it freely about it at one time, and they said that there would be three World Wars. One
definitely with Germany, possibly two with Germany. The third one would be Zion against Islam. And we’re
seeing that being fulfilled now. H.G. Wells wrote about that too in his novel version, Shape of Things to
Come, where he even put Basra in as the focal starting point of the third one, and of course, he was in
Britain when he wrote it, and in Basra, is the major area and city that the British troops went into in Iraq,
this time. So, these guys know the agenda, and we are simply living a script, pre-written, long before we
were actually born. We can find many of the big players belong to the Trilateral Commission. The Trilateral
Commission was formed from members of the Council on Foreign Relations for America, which is the
American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs. Any non-Commonwealth country is called a
Council on Foreign Relations country.
And we find that the Trilateral Commission was set up initially to bring in the three trading blocs that Karl
Marx wrote about in the 1840s in Das Kapital. Karl Marx wrote this in London, and he was put up by the
Rothschilds, bankers, of course, because the rich men of the world always have run the world, since they
introduced their money civilization system. And they had to create an opposition to themselves in a sense,
or at least the appearance of opposition. To get the Great Work through you must have what appears to be
a direct antithesis to the thesis, and that’s why they created a system which was supposed to declare that
they would destroy capitalism completely and get rid of the old caste system and bring in a world with
experts running it at the top, and scientists, etc, run on reason and logic and yaddah, yah. And everybody
would serve the state, and of course, the people at the bottom believed it, and the people in the middle,
management level, got a different version, and then the ones up at the Politburo level and even above them,
got the real version. That’s how it works, you see. Karl Marx wrote about the three trading Blocs, back in
the 1840s, funded by the Rothschilds, who owned the Bank of England. And of course, they also owned the
banks in Germany, and Italy and a few other countries. And you find that they funded the Communists.
Karl Marx, also by the way, Karl Marx wrote letters to Abraham Lincoln, they’re in the Congressional records,
because he congratulated Lincoln on upholding the unification of the Americas, or the United States,
because, in Communist ideology, a strong central government must take over all laws, regulations, etc, over
the entire country. And so, for Americans who want to research that, you can look into your Congressional
records and you’ll find that, that Abraham Lincoln was in correspondence with Karl Marx, and had
tremendous congratulations from the latter on his ability to keep this particular goal, which they both knew,
they understood, but the masses didn’t, in mind.
During the Cold War that came on after World War II, there was the so-called arms race. That again is a
great thing with war or pretend wars. They can tax the people to the hilt. The people think that they’re
being saved, they’re protected. Meanwhile, the money was being funneled into NASA, the NSA, they all
have ni-sa sounds, because that’s the Hebrew/Aramaic word for the head, for the head of the Sanhedrin, it’s
called, Nasa, or Nasi, if you like. And that is no coincidence. And so, NASA has been putting more satellites
up there for future use, which ultimately will have to do with the controlling of our ID cards, with the active
chips in them, which are now out in the open. They are definitely active chips. And ultimately, the inserted
chip is to come afterwards. The card is only a stepping stone. And all the technology was made through
budgets getting funneled to these experimental labs to do with what’s happening today, not with what was
happening in the Cold War at all, to do with high-tech observation, control of people, through the trick of the
elect, of course, which is electricity, which they knew in the 1700s they would use. Benjamin Franklin wrote
about it, if anybody cares to look into it.
So, electricity, computers, etc, were mandated for a stepping stone towards where we’re going very shortly,
which is to be a totally controlled world, where, as they said in their plan, their great plan, of course, they
wrote about it. And they called it Revelations in the New Testament. That’s written is such exoteric and
esoteric language, which is typical of the ancient brotherhood. And they tell you right in there that the age
would come where no one could buy or sell without the mark or the image of the beast. It’s the mark,
really. And a mark of course, could be a scratch, insertion or whatever. You couldn’t buy or sell. And of
course, the cashless society is coming along with this new ID card which every country in the world is
putting into place at the same time. In fact, in Canada, they pulled out Stockwell Day recently, and gave
him his first thing to tell the public, which was that well, the US is bringing it in, and Britain has brought it in,
and other countries in Europe are bringing it in, so we must bring it in too; we can’t be left behind. And I
guess that logic, which they always use for this kind of thing, would mean that if they’re eating fetus in
China, then I guess we should be doing the same thing here. So, there’s no logic. It’s an agenda, and that’s
the reason it doesn’t really make sense to us. This ID card, according Stockwell Day, will also be your
international passport. He did say, it’s not just a national card, it’s an international card, which will tell you
that the regional and international computers, supercomputers, are already set up to take these things.
And they were set up years ago, because back in about 1995, Canada bought five super Cray computers,
and it was written about at the time. Each supercomputer could handle technically all the data in Canada,
and the reporters in the Toronto papers were scratching their heads wondering why little old Canada was
buying all these super Cray computers. These things take buildings to put them in. They are nitrogen
cooled. These aren’t your little tabletops. Australia at the same time, in the early ’90s, mid ’90s, was doing
the same thing. And some reporters, I have them on videotape, talking in the mid-90s, were talking about
this. They said, well, you know, there’s going to be a coming ID card, don’t you. So they all know this.
9/11 was simply the Pearl Harbor event that Brzezinski talked about must occur to get the people motivated
behind the war which was to begin, according to his book, The Grand Chessboard, published in ’98, it would
begin in Afghanistan, which it did, and then go over to Iraq, then into Iran, and then Syria. And they would
finish off the job that Britain began, of standardizing the world into one system, one legal/economic system,
educational system, worldwide, because we all must become one.
The real meaning of “one” is not what the New Agers are dreaming about. That’s all the stuff that’s been
fed to them, by the big boys who churn out their books for them. The oneness that the big boys are talking
about is actually a zombie land basically, a Borg land, where most of the public will simply be programmed
for the work. They’ll be unable to think of themselves as a distinct individual.
(Commercial Break)
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I think I’m back. We generally get a bit of music there when it starts again.
First of all, I’ll tell you, that I’m on again on the X-zone radio, tonight, which will be 1am Eastern. And that’s
broadcast on a whole bunch of AM stations, as well as the internet radio. It comes out of Hamilton, Ontario.
And that should be a pretty good program, I think, or broadcast. I hate the word program, because we’re all
being programmed. It’s also being broadcast in Australia and the UK and other countries too. On March the
5th and 12th, I’ll be on the internet radio, which is called Eye on the Future with Hehpsehboah. And I know
that will roll well, because there’s a bit of interaction there, which helps to give it a bit of fire.
So, things may be picking up, it’s hard to tell how long we have, really, to discuss things which must be
discussed before it’s forbidden. We’re almost at that stage now, where if you say anything contrary to the
present agenda, it’s called anti-government, which is a direct translation from the Soviet term used over
there, as was political correctness a direct translation from the Soviet term. So, the Soviet is actually here.
The Soviet system is now merged with the capitalist system, and that’s what they call the third way, which
Mr. Gingrich was talking about, as he tossed out Mr. Toffler’s books, called The Third Wave. It’s the merging
of the two into the one system for global reconstruction. A Communistic, overbearing bureaucracy to deal
with every part of an individual’s life, with the usual elite at the top above all of that, who are called the
dominant minority, according to Plato. They call them the dominant minority, the inbred group at the top,
who own the wealth of the world, with their helpers down beneath them.
This is the world we’re going into, and it’s a part. It’s a step-by-step world, until they have literally us
implanted with these brain chips, which are talked about at the Loyola meetings, the World Science
Meetings, sponsored by the US Department of Commerce. Where the scientist said, it’s all ready to go. All
they had to do was to get the people to accept this chip, inserted into their body, would be to start putting it
into cartoons, promoting it at kindergartens and schools, and putting it in novels and movies as a good thing
to have. And they already are putting them in all of those things, of course. Preparing the ground, again,
the field, plowing it, harrowing it, and then planting it, and the people will think it’s a natural evolution, once
more. However, Arthur Koestler, who worked on this technique of lobotomizing the mind said, it must be
done for World Peace. Peace means peace from the people. That’s what it means. It means that the
people won’t have to have entertainment and sports and all this kind of stuff to keep them occupied. We’ll
simply be programmed like the Borg, on the Starship Enterprise, to do specific tasks.
I’d like to thank a woman in Sweden, who’s been asking for my books. They should be out tomorrow. And
she’s a nice woman in her 80s. It shows you that age has nothing to do with following, studying, nor waking
up to what’s really going on. And in some people, they simply have that hunger; others don’t. And we
certainly cut through the nonsense that’s out there. And it’s top-heavy with nonsense, put out by the big
boys of Tavistock, who also shove the authors out there, to write out thousands of books, to confuse you
even more. And that’s always been the way they shape our minds into certain directions. So, I’d like to
thank Maria, and they should be out tomorrow.
For those in Australia, who were asking about the international meeting I read from some time ago, it was
actually, I thought it was in Melbourne, it was in Sydney, Australia, October 1938. It was the Royal Institute
of International Affairs, World Meeting. Very important meeting. And they did have US members there from
the CFR. Every attendant from every country is listed in the back. All the Australian delegates. They have
the ones from New Zealand, Britain, Ireland even, and India. And in this book, they go through the entire
Structure right up into 2000 and beyond, to create a New World Order and it’s those terms. A New World
Order, and how they would use a structured system to control the people. A structured system run by
experts, which of course, that is also backed up by Lord Bertrand Russell, who wrote The Impact of Science
on Society. So, in this book, if you can get a hold of it, it was printed by the Oxford University Press,
Toronto. It has a list of all the Royal Institutes: the Canadian Institute, the Australian Institute, the New
Zealand, South African, and the one from India, and the United States of course, were in attendance. So it
has all your big players.
And what you’ll find in it, is that the top leaders of Left and Right Wings were all members of it. And this is a
Masonic organization, by the way. Because in Masonic law, they can speak equally on the floor, on the
square, on the level, as they say. And so they had all the people who would create the dialectic, the fight
between left and right, etc. They’d have the leaders there hammering out the agenda, and how they would
make it work on the people. Their goal, ultimately, would be a world where people would have constructive
world citizenship. And this is the very end of the book, in fact, some members of the conference called it a
World Order, a New World Order, some, the Good Life. Some spoke of Constructive World Citizenship, or
the Brotherhood of Man, that Masonic term again. Still, in other words, other words used, which might serve
as a motto both for the Commonwealth, and for the World Order of which he and his companions dreamed
was developed in each individual, a sense of duty to his fellow man. In later conferences, they call it a sense
of duty to the state. In fact, they say, that you would not be born, unless they had a need for you to serve
the World State. They go through the coming-up World War II. They pretty well know they were going to
win it. They said they would defend the Soviet Union, at all costs. This was in this one book. This was the
minutes and speeches of their meetings. And, as I say, this was long before I was a gleam in my father’s
eye, you know. The whole future was in here.
And of course, they also knew that towards the end of the millennium, Russia would just simply bring down
its system and merge with the West. That was the merger, which Mr. Gorbachev talked about, just before
he left, when he was premier of Russia. He said to his fellow Russians, he said, some people will say that
Communism is dying or is dead. He says, do not believe it. He says, we’re simply moving out into the world
to fulfill our destiny. In other words, that was always the plan that once they had created this system,
they’d merge it with the west, with the banking system, the dominant elite of the West, and they would run
the world in a constructive, scientific manner, where experts would run the show, intellectual experts. And
that’s what we have today.
Lenin also wrote about this same thing. At the beginning of the 1900s, he said, towards the end of the
millennium and into the new, the world would be so top-heavy, so top-heavy with bureaucracy and
bureaucratic departments overreaching each other, that there would be some confusion. So, he’s quite right
there, because we see that today, with so many government departments, literally stepping over each other,
on each other’s turf. So, in this particular book from the meeting of the Institute of International Affairs,
they talk about the possible necessity of bringing the United States into the war, possibly by an attack by
Japan on the United States. This was in 1938, folks.
So, if you think things just happen, please just read your New Age books, burn incense, live in a bubble,
chant your ‘om’, eat your seeds and health foods, and just turn your back on what’s happening, because
you’ve effectively been disabled from participating in the creation of destiny. This world we’re living in is
actually participate in destiny. The New Agers are soaking up all these propaganda books, which are thinly
disguised as promoting the new religion, to believe that 2012 is going to be the end of the world according
to the Maya Calendar, and all of that. Well, I’ll tell you, you see, those guys who represent the Mayans that
they’ve dug up for some shows, are all Masons, you see. Just like the American Indians were sold down the
river by their chiefs who became Masons. Joseph Brant was one of their first ones for the tribes up in
Canada and the States, and he joined the British side during the American Revolution. And he told some of
his other members of the tribes to join the American side, which is typical dialect once again. His son,
Norton, took over, as the Grand Master of the Federation of the Six Nations I think they called it. We have
the same thing in Africa too, with Mr. Mandela and all the usual leaders. They’re all high Masons.
And when you become a Mason, you leave your old family behind. And your new family is the new
international brotherhood of Masons, you see. And that’s who you serve. You swear oaths to that. You no
longer belong to the people who still identify with you. You may lead them, but you will lead them up the
garden path, because you’re now let into the real agenda. And those ordinary people below you, are the
profane, the dark ones. They live in the darkness, you see. And you simply lead them to where your
brotherhood wants them to go. They are there to be used. And in fact, Albert Pike, the Pope of Masonry,
said, those who will not use their own power of reason and intellect are nothing more than beasts of burden
and meat on the table by choice and consent. And therefore, in that case, if that’s their choice, then those
who are the true predators have the right to use them. That’s what it means, by the law of nature. So, they
were nice guys, eh?
This is the real intent behind it. It’s a class, caste type system. And they have all the New Agers reading all
this Mayan stuff. The same tricks they pulled with Christianity for thousands of years. “Well, geez, I mean,
God wrote revelations, didn’t he? And God said it’s going to all end, you know, and all this was going to
happen, and there’s nothing we can do, because it’s God’s will.” And here you come with this updated
Mayan, well, prophecy, spontaneous prophecy, it’s all going to end in 2012. And the New Agers will say,
there’s nothing you can do about it. You know, it’s just written that way. This is the oldest con in the book.
Conology, the priest’s con. Kahn is priest, by the way. So, you hear all of this stuff, and it’s rubbish.
And the main thing is, you can find all the real stuff by the guys who implement it, and plan it, and write
about it. Arthur C Clarke was one of the highest Masons in Britain, and through two movies, written in the
’60s, he goes through the beginning of the push for the New Way of things, which begins in 2001, hence the
name of his first movie. And it was to be completed by 2010, hence the name of his second movie. You
see, one of the highest Masons. And it’s nothing to do with what you think is in the movie. It’s set in space,
and on earth, and in space, but it’s actually the occultic journey. And you’ll see the one guy overcoming the
computer, the sun, HAL, for Halogen, Halcyon. And HAL, H-A-L, each letter after the alphabet is I and then
you have B, and M. IBM, the computer. He overcomes the master, you see, and becomes a god himself. In
2010, you have him coming back as a god, who can go back and forth through time, never ages. And he
tells all the people on earth, “something wonderful is going to happen.” Can’t tell them what, but “wonderful
is going to happen”. Well, we know what it is, because at the Loyola meetings, we’ve all to have a brain
chip by then. And they said we’d all be interlinked in a form of electronic telepathy. But they go further and
tell you that there’d be no such thing as an individual once this has occurred. It will be the end of
individualism as we know it. Of course, the elite will not take this, because they must retain their selfpreservation,
survival mechanisms, because they will be planning the destiny and steering the ship of earth.
This is where you’ll find the real agenda. They’ve been training everyone that we’ll all be one. We’ll all be
one. And of course, the New Agers are falling into it, not knowing, hey, it’s going to be done electronically.
Some will like it. Some will think, this is fantastic, being linked up electronically; it’s a natural evolution.
Well, I just wish I could find a planet for them to go to, and leave the rest of us alone. Because if there’s
any natural abilities, they won’t be used. In fact, you won’t be able to cultivate any natural abilities. It will
be the end of that.
So, this is the real world we live in. It’s been planned, down through the ages, for centuries, and thousands
of years, to bring us to this step, of a well-ordered, planned society. The United Nations, un in French, U-N,
for one, is a sort of front man for this dominant minority who run the world, this inbred bunch that have
selective breeding, like the Charles Galton-Darwin family breeding into one family, the Wedgwood family, for
at least six generations. That’s all they married were Wedgwoods. They made pottery, so I think all the
Darwins are a bit potty, and that explains it. Charles Darwin’s own children, because of all this interbreeding
for generations with them, his ten children, eight of them died right away. One ended up dying soon after.
And I think the last one died in an insane asylum. So then they started breeding with the Galton family.
And so Charles Galton family, wrote The Next Million Years. Sir Charles Galton, 1950s wrote this book,
boasting about the next million years they’re going to control, if we let them, of course. And he talked about
the culling of the majority, since we won’t need them anymore. He says, if the ordinary masses breed any
more, they’ll overtake us, meaning the inbred elite, and wipe them out. And so, he says, we better do it first
to them.
And that’s where we’re going today. All of the threats of war, this ongoing nonsense of terror everywhere, is
all to get the public off balance, to allow the elite to terrorize us, and dictate to us what we must do. And to
give themselves the powers to do it. Interestingly in 1998, Allan Rock of Canada, a sort of lifelong player in
politics, who apparently is related to the Rockefellers according to rumor, but I can’t verify that. Allan, he’s
now, of course, ambassador to the UN. When he was the Minister of Justice, he introduced an omnibus
Crime Bill, which was introduced in the US at the same time by Mr. Bill Clinton. And this really is the same
thing as this new anti-terrorism bill, and they were pushing it through in 1998. And it has in it then, and it
did go through here in Canada, because being a good democracy, we have no say in it at all. That’s perfect
democracy. In it, it said, they could arrest anyone on any suspicion, and hold them indefinitely without trial,
meaning for the rest of their lives, and no one would know where they went, etc, etc. And even the
reporters were scratching their heads saying, why is this being pushed now, when the world is so peaceful
and happy and safe, etc. Well, Mr. Rock took his orders from people above the prime minister. He was in
on the agenda. And they were preparing the road for 2001, before it even happened.
Zbigniew Brzezinski put his book out in ’98, talking about the need for this Pearl Harbor event. He belonged
to the New American Century Club. A private club of the Bushes, Wolfowitzes, Cheneys, Rumsfelds, etc,
who published their own agenda, first in ’92, and then, again in ’98, themselves. It’s still available,
apparently on some websites. And they go through the same scenarios, starting with Afghanistan, Iraq,
Iran, Syria, and so on. And taking the oil. So, we’re just living through a script, right now. And I want
everyone to keep in their mind that the fifty-year plans, the hundred-year plans, etc, of Communism, are
being used by us today. We have five-year plans for this part of the agenda, ten for that, fifty for that. It’s
the same bunch, running the same show, as always. And that’s why they have these MOs they leave behind
them.
Now, in October 2005, a reporter, called Packer, wrote in the Boston Globe, and a few other papers across
the country, what a senior advisor to the Bush administration said to the reporters that day. And it’s so
important we realize that the advisors, you see, are more important than the front men. In Masonry,
number one is never the boss, it’s always number two. That’s a Masonic fact. Two is more important than
one. And the advisors are tremendously important, because they’re unelected. They are globalists, because
they all implement through their own presidents or prime ministers, the same global agenda at the same
time. So, someone is training them. In the occult, they call them the Grey Men, because their floor is the
chessboard, the black and white, and they are the Grey Men. They move between one world and the other
to the real guys who rule the world. So, they tell, they write the scripts. The presidents read these scripts
and prime ministers, and this is what one of these advisors, and script writers said, printed in the Globe and
Mail, October 30th, 2005.
He said, “We are an empire now. (A: Now, that’s the New American Century, you see, the Club they belong
to.) And when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality, judiciously, as you
will, (A: Just like some of them on shortwave. They just parrot what’s happening today.) we’ll act again,
creating other new realities, which you can study too. And that’s just how things will work out. We are
history’s actors, and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do.”
A statement from the senior Bush administrative advisor. And that’s what they do. They gave us spins on
everything. They give us fake realities. People should watch Wag the Dog. It went through the Bosnia war
before it happened, just exactly as it eventually did happen. They put it in our face, all the time. And those
who understand what’s happening, must cultivate their own individuality. Because the world they’re creating
is the world of absolute, total collectivism. A worldwide plantation, where people will be grown for their
purposes, to serve this world plantation. Their thousand years of peace they call it, when we’re all chipped
and we’re no longer us. We’re an it. We’re a Borg. The original bee, B-org. You see. And it’s up to
individuals not to keep their head down and be timid, because this is a battle. This is a battle for the mind,
for the spirit, for the soul of every individual that’s ever lived before us. All the poor souls who’ve struggled
and pioneered and done all the right things for thousands of years, but never knowing the agenda. And it’s
also for those to come, because we do not have the right to say, “I’m okay. Maybe I’ll get through this and
retire before the end comes.” That’s the most selfish, opt-out, cop-out statement I’ve ever heard before.
This is a battle for all time, for the past, the present, and the future. And people must stand up and be
counted, and say their peace, and tell others, because, don’t be cowered by tyrants’ speeches and tyrants’
threats. You are an individual living, living, divine being. And it’s up to you to use that divinity. Really use it
and let it shine out there.
Anyway, that’s all for tonight folks. It was rather spontaneous, and I hope you tune in again, next week,
when Jackie will be back on Wednesday, and Darren will be in on Monday, Tuesday. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
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March 8th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, folks. Thanks for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday, and it is the 8th of
March, in the year 2006. And I’m glad you’re with us tonight, folks. Let me share a spiritual message here. “Those
who remember always that they know nothing, and who have become willing to learn everything, will learn it.” Alan,
what are the Ides of March? And when are they?
Alan: It generally goes up to about the 13th, altogether.
Jackie: But when does it start and what is it?
Alan: Well, it’s basically the beginnings in different conjunctions, with the sun and so on, and different stars. And it
was always foreboding of something ominous for some people. Although, in the high mystery religion, their year
begins in March.
Jackie: Who was it that said, “Beware the Ides of March?”
Alan: That was for the Caesar who got assassinated in Rome. You know, “et tu Brutus.”
Jackie: Okay. Well, it just popped in my head. I realized, you were talking last night about the March Hares. And then
the Ides of March popped in my head, and I realized I really don’t know what the Ides of March is. Okay, alright, well.
Thanks for taking over last night, by the way.
Alan: Oh, it was no problem.
Jackie: I found my puppy, so, everything came out fine. Well, there was something that we were talking about
yesterday. I think it was yesterday. And I mentioned this to you, and I think you said that you wanted me to mention it
on the air, because you wanted to say something about it, when I mentioned that I had, my pores were emitting a
metallic odor. And I had that happen some time ago, and it went on for a couple days. Was that what you wanted me to
bring up? You wanted to say something about it?
Alan: I mean, this spraying that has so much aluminum oxide in it, is giving people strange, well, so many people have
infections, bronchial, sinus infections because of the spraying. They’re stepping it up big time. And with aluminum
oxide and barium in it, barium is also a sort of metallic salt, and titanium, another one, another metallic salt in it, and I
know that last year I could taste a couple of times, in my mouth, the taste of aluminum. And so, we’re absorbing this
stuff by breathing it. It’s in the water supply. The vegetables pick it up, because they’re drawing up the moisture from
rain and snow and so on. So, we’re getting dosed and saturated with this stuff, and sometimes your body is trying to
throw it off and get rid of it. And it can come through the pores as well.
Jackie: That is exactly, it’s right in my pores. And like I said, I can’t even shower it away. I mean, it will be gone right
after my shower. I was upstairs vacuuming this evening, earlier. And I was dressed too warmly, and I started perspiring
a bit. And it was really, it was there. It was very evident, Alan. But that would be good that the body is ejecting it,
wouldn’t it?
Alan: If your body can still do that, it’s definitely good, because it’s accumulative in the body. And some people are
actually having, getting into this area of it, a lot of people are getting constipation today, and that’s another side effect of
aluminum oxide. It’s a binder. It attracts all moisture to it, and so, it will constipate people. That’s another major thing
that’s happening on a wide scale, today.
Jackie: Well, I did notice that, you know, I don’t have a metallic taste in my mouth. And I would think I would. It’s
just really being emitted, you know, from my skin. Alan, a couple or three days ago, I don’t know when it was, I kept
having this taste in my mouth. I like lemons, and sometimes, I’ll just, you know, slice a lemon and salt it, and eat the
lemon and the rind and everything. And I haven’t been eating lemons, and it was absolutely a taste in my mouth like I
had been eating lemons.
Alan: Well, that could be a bit of it too. And it can actually make it taste initially sometimes like lemon, a citric juice, or
even a sort of mild taste of onions, you know. But once it gets heavier, you’ll actually taste it. You’d think you’d
actually licked an aluminum pot or a pan or something. And it’s just incredible. It’s happening all across the planet,
except for China and Switzerland, apparently. And most people are oblivious to it.
Jackie: Isn’t it amazing how many people know about this? because there are a lot of people who know about it, Alan.
And yet, not one thing has been done about it. There’s total silence from the other side.
Alan: Absolutely. That tells you, that a media that won’t tell you this, isn’t going to tell you truth on anything. I hope
people learn that basic lesson. Because media is such an essential arm of government, to give us this reality, and all the
nonsense within the reality. It shows you the cohesive power of all media, when not one of the major ones will come
out and even briefly or even sketchily mention what’s happening above the skies every day and falling on the people.
Jackie: I’ll tell you what they did back, I remember it was 1998 when I started talking about it on the broadcast. In early
1998, because I was still on at 6pm. And there were, oh, my goodness. When I opened up the subject, I had calls
coming from every place, Alan, and people who were very, very aware of it. But then I think it was, oh, it was in the
year. One of the networks did, like ABC or one of them, they did about a three or four minute, a little thing on these
chemtrails, only they didn’t call them chemtrails of course. But they actually showed satellite pictures of them, and they
claimed they were coming from passenger planes. Commercial passenger planes. Right, like they do loopty loops, and
make checkerboards in the sky and little Xs and things like that. But, you know, it probably, it satisfied a lot of people,
I would imagine.
Alan: Yeah, a lot of people want to be satisfied, because they truly want to believe that the media is there to tell them
what to think about, and what to warn them about. They truly do believe that. And Zbigniew Brzezinski said they were
making, they were getting to a stage where the average individual would be unable to come to a reasoning conclusion,
by themselves, and would actually subjugate themselves, and believe that the media is there to make their decisions for
them, to think for them, and that’s happened with most people. They want to believe they’re being well taken care of in
fantasy land. And in this wonderful, fascist, socialist structure, and they truly believe that they’re being well taken care
of, and if there was anything worth knowing that was going to harm them, the media would tell them.
Jackie: Of course, and besides that our government would never do anything that would hurt us.
Alan: Oh, of course. They’re there to help us, yeah.
Jackie: Well. See, you see the whatever it is happened to people’s thought processes. I’m sure that probably every
single listener has experienced this. I was talking to a friend last summer. We were outside, and there happened to be
some chemtrails being laid. And I had mentioned them to him before, and I said, look up there, and he looked up, and I
said, that’s what I was telling you about. And then I made sure that, you know, I differentiated between a contrail, and
most people know what a contrail is, but I even explained it to him, and I said, now you watch this and it isn’t going to
go away. And then I told him, that you know, there are websites, and that they have done samples, air samples and etc,
and that there are heavy metals in them, barium and aluminum, and that they’ve even found viruses, etc, etc. And you
know what he said? “I’ll be darned.” That was it. Not like, well, who’s doing this, or why are they. Not any concern
at all, Alan.
Alan: No, they literally will subjugate their own reasoning abilities, and their own, what should be their own
perceptions, they’ve given them over to media, to do their thinking for them. And Brzezinski said this was a scientific
technique they’d been using on an increasing level since the 1950s, and they were setting it up in the ’70s, and we’re
seeing the end product today, where the public truly, truly believe the media is an appendage to their brain to do their
thinking for them. They truly believe that. And so, in other words, no matter what they see, if the media hasn’t told
them to think or worry about it, they will dismiss it immediately from their mind. That’s how simply it works. It’s
terribly simple.
Jackie: It’s terribly sad, too.
Alan: It’s awfully sad, absolutely. And there’s also people who are finding that they’re getting memory blocking in
their conversations. You know, they’re forgetting names, or even where they were in their conversation. This is
becoming more common now and with the aluminum buildup in their bodies. This is all part, of course, it’s a multifaceted
agenda, just the spraying alone, where they’re using the HAARP, the scalar technology, which Brzezinski also
talked about. Now, this guy was secretary of state for war, for a few presidents. And he’s still an advisor to the present
one. And this was his speciality, this form of, he called it Technotronic warfare, where they could use this kind of scalar
technology, basically create a massive conductor through the air, by metallic particles, and then beam these frequencies
throughout the air, and the public, who would be saturated with this stuff, would become walking antennas. And they
would receive these signals. It could make them placid. It could alter their brain chemistry by stimulating certain things
and slowing down others. This is technotronic warfare. And he wrote about it in his own book, Between Two Ages,
and the chapter was called the Technotronic Era. And in there also, you’ll find that part where he says the public will be
unable to come to a reasoning conclusion by themselves shortly. He goes through that in that book. So, they’re actually
doing it, you see. It’s being done. And in this last summer, I noticed, when it’s heavy in the summer, you’ll notice, you
get shocks off your car, things you would get in the wintertime. In a humid summer, you’re now actually getting shocks
from doorhandles going into stores and things.
Jackie: Static electricity.
Alan: And that’s because the aluminum oxide is hygroscopic. It attracts all moisture to it, binds it from the air, and
takes it right down to the actual ground that you’re standing on, so that the air becomes dry, you see. And that’s what’s
causing that. So, see we’re not just guinea pigs, we’re actually part of the final agenda here.
Jackie: It’s gone way beyond guinea pig stage.
Alan: Yes. They were testing this stuff in the 1950s, they were testing it then. It was interesting, and here’s how the
con goes. I call it the conology. In the 1960s, this is typical, when the UFOs began to be seen. And of course, Area 51
was making them. They still are. They diverted the attention to, oh, it’s from outer space. So that immediately took the
attention off into outer space, we’re not doing it, it’s the aliens that are doing it. And, at the same time they did that,
they started giving little blurbs in the newspapers, the same media that’s keeping quiet today, remember. The media is
saying, oh, strange things are happening. There’s this angel hair coming down to the ground. And they gave it the term
angel hair, giving it this mystical, you know.
Jackie: Oh, they actually said that?
Alan: Oh, yeah. It’s angel hair and the weirdest thing, they said at the time, the weirdest thing is that there’s always a
UFO being seen in the vicinity before this stuff comes down. So, right away, people are getting doused here and there
with this big candy cane type floss coming down, in patches, over their cars and things. And immediately, they’re all
saying, because the media said so, oh, you know, there must have been aliens here, and UFOs. Well, that was the
testing of the stuff they’re dropping today. Because, when it comes down in a cold atmosphere, it will often come down
in big clumps. It’s like the old cotton weeds, only they’re coming down through the sky, and they’re like candy cane,
and once they hit the ground they sort of melt.
Jackie: Yeah, I think, you know, we were looking into the dimethyl bromide, what the heck is it called. Oh, gosh, I
can’t remember the name of it, this was one of the first emails I got about the chemtrails, and said, it’s confirmed. EDB
or something like that is in the chemtrails, and they gave the phone number of a lab in Ohio, that EDB, ethyl-dibromide.
EDB, I think ethyl-dibromide. And they gave the phone number of the lab where you could call and confirm it. Well, I
tried, and it was the wrong number, but I called information and got the correct phone number of the lab he mentioned.
And I told him what I was calling for. And they put me in touch with the man who had done the sampling. And he
said, I cannot give you the results of this, because it was a private person, you know, who had the sample done, and I
can’t divulge it. But he said, I will tell you this. There’s no more than 10% EDB in that sample. Okay, so, he admitted
that EDB was in there. I might be saying it wrong, but that’s what I think it is. Anyway, I started doing some research
on that. They used it, initially, Alan, as a pesticide. And they were just spraying it all over the food stored, corn, and
wheat grains, and stuff like that, and the Department of Environmental Protection, in Texas, I’ve got all this stuff in
files, in there in my studio. They had demanded to do a study on this. They had done many, many studies on it, but all
the studies were done by the company that had manufactured it, and said, oh, it’s safe, safe, safe. And suddenly, the
federal EPA, put it, this was after it had been used for ten years, as a pesticide, they put an emergency stop on it, and
said there is no safe level. And then they started putting it in the JP8 fuel. And I have the information on that, too, and
even the manufacturer’s data, whatever they call it, safety data sheets. And they were actually adding it to the jet fuel,
and at that time, they were talking about making the JP8 fuel like an international type of fuel. So, any commercial or
military plane could fuel up anywhere in the world. And they mentioned that this stuff freezes at about, I think it was 50
degrees. So, you know, when they put it out in the air, up there, then it will fall down in these, what they were calling
angel hair.
Alan: Now, what the angel hair was, was polymer.
Jackie: Okay, well, this stuff literally dissipates when it gets warmer.
Alan: Polymer was the carrying agent for viruses and bacterium.
Jackie: Well, this stuff was in those chemtrails at that time.
Alan: This stuff was actually tested in Britain, first in the ’50s, over the working class populations. And then stepped up
in America, tried out there in the ’60s, and ’70s, as they perfected the ratios of stuff. And, of course, obviously, they
were taking the pulse on the population, to see who was getting sick of what, and all the rest of it. And then they had,
what you’ll see in the sky, in the summertime especially, when they’re spraying, you’ll see, almost as though you’re
looking through one of these clear, polythene type barrier material that you’ll get for putting over the basement,
basically.
Jackie: Say that again, Alan.
Alan: In the summer, it looks as though, in the sky, when you’ll see that strange, distorted haze, up high in the sky,
round the sun, it looks as though you’re looking through a plastic, a clear plastic polymer, a bag, basically, polyethylene
bag. And that’s what you’re actually seeing is polymer. And these polymer strands were developed in the 1950s, for
bacterial and viral warfare purposes. They carry the live viral and bacterial agents to the ground. That’s what they were
developed for. So, it’s quite amazing to watch it happening. It’s even more amazing, as you’re well aware, that most
people, as you say, it doesn’t register with them. It’s not on the media. So, I see it, but it must be irrelevant, because
it’s not mentioned on the media. But, believe you me, they have their pulse on the people, who’s getting sick. All
doctor’s offices today are computerized, pharmaceutical companies are the outlets. The pharmacies are all
computerized. They have instant data flowing in every day on what’s selling, what’s been prescribed for what ailments
and so on. So, they know what’s happening. And this is a must-be as they say in high Masonry. Nothing must interfere
with it, and hence, the total, total silence of the media.
Jackie: Well, they own the media.
Alan: They own it, yeah. And the media is an essential arm of government. Media means middle, you see. They’re the
middle men. They market what we’re supposed to think, to us. That’s what they do. But this stuff, I’ve noticed just
this month, here in Canada, and from the calls I’m getting in the States, they’ve stepped it up again, another notch. And
what I’ve noticed with the trails, the parallel trails, maybe four or five parallel trails, this new type of polymer they’re
using now, this, I guess, new mixture, is spreading out faster than the old stuff, you know.
Jackie: It does, Alan. It actually winds up you don’t see it. It doesn’t cause those cirrus-looking clouds.
Alan: Yes. Although, the other day, as I say, there was a clear, sunny day, to start. I went out again, half an hour later,
and there was a spiral polymer, literally a spiral, round the sun. And this polymer had been blown that way, and I guess
the wind had made the spiral shape, but it was like something from science fiction. And you want to shout, you know,
“hey, everybody, look,” but you know yourself, there’s no point. I always think of that Beatles song, that, it was
imagine yourself, it was to do with the strawberry fields, and tangerine trees and marmalade skies. And I thought, boy
the author of that, the real author of that song knew what was coming, you know. Because we’re now seeing these odd
phenomenon in the sky now. Signs in the heavens, eh? Who would’ve thought what it would’ve been?
Jackie: I told you I saw that red streak across the sky. This was a few weeks ago, when I was letting the girls out. It
was late. It was not anything from the sun. And it was not any thing from any city around here, because there aren’t
any. Besides that, the horizon was black of night, and this was above, and it went all the way from the east to the west.
And it was a pretty fat line, was a reddish, rose color.
Alan: What happens when the sun goes down, at that certain height there’s still sunlight passing through that, that
height, at thirty thousand feet or whatever. And the metallic particles reflect the setting sun. Sometimes you’ll even see
them spraying above a cloud. The spray comes down through the cloud in a straight line, and it’s darker than the actual
cloud itself. So, there’s different kinds being used here, you know. It’s quite something. This is worldwide, this is the
biggest, this is the real war that’s going on all the time.
Jackie: It is, the depopulation.
Alan: It is. And they want a tranquilized, dumbed-down people, as we go through the biggest changes, as they, in their
own words, the CFR, and the Royal Institute have said, the biggest changes since the beginning of the industrial
revolution. So, they want a dumbed-down population, who will just float through it. And then at the end of it, they’ll
wonder, how on Earth did we end up here. If they’re able to think at all, that is.
Jackie: No, well they won’t. It will seem normal to them, Alan.
Alan: I know, I know. As long as that television comes on with the same soaps, and comedies, and smiling faces, and
the news anchors keep telling you about what you should think about, then that’s true. Everything will still be normal to
them. Even if the sky is turquoise or rainbow colored all over, as long as the media tells them everything’s fine, they’ll
believe it.
Jackie: So, the guys have their sports and the women have their shopping.
Alan: That’s it. Sports, sex, shopping, and all the rest of the trivia, that’s marketed to their brains.
Jackie: Well, shopping seems to be becoming an avocation, for women. I hear when the guys are around and talking
and complaining about it, about all the shopping that their wives and girlfriends do. I had no idea, I mean, how intense
it was. And they got talking about it, a couple of weeks ago, and they’ll actually go out for twelve hours, because I said,
well, maybe they’re bored, you know. You guys are always out hunting, you know, and getting together and making
your beef jerky. Twelve hours of shopping. They go to lunch, they go shopping, they have lunch. They go have
shopping, they go to dinner, and they shop till the malls close. And he said, they will drive, and this is, we’re in a rural
area. People around here aren’t very well heeled, Alan. But of course they have their plastic. But they’ll drive a
hundred miles to a mall. The malls close by just don’t appease them anymore. And this is serious. I had no idea. But I
guess it’s kind of a common thing.
Alan: It is. Again, an artificial system, as a city, especially, and that’s where we get all our ideas from, it’s from the
beehives of the city, different cities. Since they are abnormal, they can only create more abnormalcy. And we’re seeing
the end product now all around us, of deviant behavior. This is deviant behavior.
Jackie: It is. And you know what it made me think about after 9/11? It was the Sunday that same week, and they were
showing an empty stadium in New York, and they were likening it, comparing it to the church, that people in America
worship, you know, the way they want. Many people, this is how they worship on Sundays, coming to football games.
And today, the church. And then they were showing the empty benches, bleachers, and said, these are the pews of this
church, and today the pews are empty, but next Sunday, the big game, you know, da-da-da. And I was shocked at
watching that. I turned around to walk down the hall. And I heard the announcer say, no music. There was silence
before, and there was silence after. And he said, resume your shopping.
Alan: Gee whiz.
Jackie: Resume your shopping. And I turned around, and I said, oh, my gosh. They were giving a command. It’s over
now, folks. Resume your shopping.
Alan: Well, that’s what it’s coming to. The people have become, it’s in that movie, it was made back in the 70s, called
Network. And the guy in it, it’s a comedy, he says to the audience…
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: We’re back. Folks, I’m sorry. I didn’t hear our warning for the break, and Alan was talking. And Alan, would
you repeat what you were saying, just before the break?
Alan: Yeah, there was a movie. It’s worth getting a hold of, because see, movies preprogram us for what’s to come, so
that when it actually happens in reality, it’s kind of familiar and we accept it. And sometimes movies are also a form of
legality. These characters who run the world are very legal in a sense. They’ll show you things, and it’s shame on you
if you don’t really get the message. And that movie, Network, came out, in the 60s or 70s, it was a comedy. And it’s
about a guy, an anchorman, who just had enough one day, and started telling the people the truth. And he tells them that
we’ve been fooling you all these years.
Jackie: He did it, right live.
Alan: And he becomes a sort of a little new messiah type thing of the media, because he’s telling the truth to the people.
And he gets from behind his desk, and goes down into the audience, that’s all sitting there, and he says, for God’s Sake,
you’re the real people, he says, we are the phonies. Behind the screen is this square cube. He says, we’re the phonies;
why do you want to copy us? You see. And that’s what we’re seeing today. The people are being programmed, and
have been programmed, all their lives really, through a very clever scientific technique, marketed to them via that oneeyed
monster there in their living room, the television. So, whatever is popular on there, they will emulate. We know
the children get their Much Music, which is called the children’s culture. And they learn the new buzz words from there
too, and their fashions. And the adults are the same. I mean, the soaps for donkey’s years, have been encouraging
affairs. And then all the magazines suddenly appear, at the checkout counters, about affairs and how good it is for you,
you know. So, all of society is manipulated by professionals, generally starting it under the guise of entertainment. And
as Plato said, thousands of years ago, monkey see, monkey do. And the public will copy what they see. Ancient
technique, well understood, and scientifically introduced with modern technologies. So, that’s how simple and easy it
is, to create culture, to alter culture, and to constantly manipulate it, along a certain path, so the people will always go
that way. It’s guaranteed. There’s only a small percentage in any era or generation, who are truly conscious, you know,
a small percentage. At one time they estimated it was around 87% who were under the influence of the world and their
brainwashing. I think it’s closer to maybe 95% today.
Jackie: I was going to say at least 93. You said, you’re hearing, you’ve been doing other radio interviews, and you’ve
been on one that actually has AM and FM affiliates. And that you’ve been getting calls from people, literally all over
the world that are waking up.
Alan: These people, what I’ll tell you is I think, and here’s the key to it, what I do is to go for the people who have taken
the first step themselves. And this is again the ancient meanings, even in the Bible. They give you the same ancient
meanings in all the holy books because one group wrote them all. And there’s truths in there. The dead are the dead.
The dead are those in every generation, who go along to get along, change nothing in their life. They don’t help create a
destiny. They follow a predetermined destiny laid out by their masters. They leave nothing behind them, really, when
they die. And those people are classed as the dead. So, what I do is to reach out to those who have taken the first step
to get up from the dead, and they must do it by themselves to begin with. They might not have the data, but there’s
something in them that’s alive, and they have to get the data to go further, and really that’s what I do. You cannot make
people stop being…
Jackie: You’re saying that the people that are calling you are people who are awake, but they just don’t have all the
facts.
Alan: They’re often very confused. They know everything is wrong. That’s generally what they’ll say is, I know
everything is just wrong, and I’ve always known it, but they’re not able to verbalize it and put it into a coherent formula
as to exactly what’s wrong. And once they hear someone speaking who understands it, they immediately identify with
it. And now they start to understand more of it. But they generally are different from their fellows to begin with.
They’ve always, as I say, had a spark in them to be different. And they’ve generally questioned things. They might not
have got all the answers, but they’ve questioned things much more intensely. The majority of the public question
nothing.
Jackie: You said the other day that there is like a connection, a likeness between those of us who somehow have escaped
it.
Alan: Oh, there’s no doubt. And, what I do know is that there’s a caring, and this is the part of it, there’s a caring about
people in general. Not just those alive today, but those who have gone before, to bring us to where we are, and those
who should come after us. There’s a real caring and a sadness to see what’s happening, in a world where the vast
majority of the public do not care. I mean, the average person today can watch their, it’s so common now. It started
with the Vietnam War in earnest, but they can sit and have their dinner with their family, and listen to bombs going off,
families getting blown up, all this kind of stuff, and they munch away on their fast food dinners and stuff, and it does
not even touch them. It’s like another movie to them. And it’s as though it’s distant and they’re out of it. They’re not
really involved. Well, it’s their tax money, and their own children that are over there doing the killing. They’re so
detached from others, and the pain and suffering of others, that I keep telling them, if you don’t cry for those over there,
who’s going to cry for you. You see. And that’s what you’re dealing with.
You’re dealing with, and this was shown in the Matrix movie, the Matrix first movie, because that was an occult movie,
and people actually are cheering the wrong things. There’s a double message, all the way through it, esoteric one too.
And in the first movie, you get glimpses of this all the way through it. The land of the dead, those who are still in the
Matrix and believe it’s all real. That’s level one reality. That’s what I call it, because there’s other levels above this
one, in high technology and so on. And in the practice Matrix, where Neo is taken in, and shown people just walking
around the streets and so on, Morpheus, the shape changer, tells him, he says to him, everyone around you here is your
enemy until they wake up. Which means, you see, the average person, if they’re told to spy on everybody else, which
they’re starting to do with all the ads and that, they will turn people in who are different. People who are saying things
which are not on the media, and authorized by the media. And so, those people around you, the dead, the land of the
dead, the obedient zombies, will turn on those who are awake and who care. Isn’t that something?
Jackie: Oh, I know.
Alan: The ones who don’t care, are the ones who will kill you and think they’re doing their government and the world a
favor.
Jackie: I experienced that when Chuck and I went to those watershed meetings. And I was asking questions. I mean,
everything they were doing was questionable. And I would just raise my hand and ask a question. And I guess it was
about the third meeting, and most of the people there were the people that were implementing it. There were very few
actual citizens, of the quote, “Seeley Creek Watershed.” They were outnumbered, well outnumbered by all of the
facilitators. But there was this one couple. And they sat. And I knew they were hearing the questions, and I had a
feeling that they were beginning to wake up to the scam of this thing. And it was either the third or fourth meeting,
Alan, and I asked a question, and this man jumped up, and he says, he screamed at me, and he said, I’ve had it. He said,
“You have disrupted every single meeting that you have come to. And I’m out of here.” And they stalked out, storming
mad. And none of the questions that were asked, it meant nothing to him. They just sat like little smiling zombies,
going through the motions, voting for everything that these people wanted.
Alan: Yeah, it’s almost as though they were straight out of school, because that’s how they’re trained in school. You do
groupthink in school. You know the agenda, because the teacher tells you it, what you’re supposed to come to the
conclusions. And if you’re good, you get a gold star. And that’s how they go through their whole life. They go
through their life obeying tyrants. I mean, that’s how all tyrannies occur. That’s why they occur and how they’re
allowed to occur. They need the people, because the people, who are base, will give their power to the beast in every
age. That’s the sad part of it. And they will crucify those who try and help them and help those that should come after.
It’s a selfish, selfish world that does not care about people who are supposed to come after them. It’s incredibly sad.
Jackie: Or even their own children, Alan.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: Even their own children. And that’s why you know it can’t be registering.
Alan: Yes, it’s not.
Jackie: It cannot be registering, or they couldn’t just keep being in that system.
Alan: I’ve lost count of how many people I’ve talked to, who said, oh, thank God, I’ll probably be dead by the time all
of this comes to a conclusion. That’s the most common answer you get. In other words, ‘I’m okay. I’ve slipped
through. I might just get my pension, go fishing and do what I want to do and then die.’ They have no connection or
feelings towards or attachments to those who have still to come. None at all. They’re dehumanized, desensitized.
They’re totally selfish. And we have to accept that, you know. We have to accept that. And being caring doesn’t mean
just about those around you, or your immediate family. You see, there’s a much, much greater thing to this world than
all of that, and these people don’t feel any of it. Simply caring about your family is just instinct, you see. It’s natural
instinct. But when you can spread that out to others, and you understand the past, you’re connected to the past, the
present, and the future, it’s a completely different thing altogether. And it’s not something you go around saying just
love everybody. Just love everybody. That’s not it at all. There’s a complete difference of having a connection and an
empathy towards everything, as opposed to the big boys at the top, who have told us, ‘all you need is love,’ you know.
Like the Beatles song, written by their scriptwriter. And one thing is too, you can never love a beast or a beast system, I
should say. I’m not classifying animals amongst the beasts in this statement.
Jackie: You what?
Alan: I’m not classifying animals amongst the beasts here. I see the ones in suits and ties, who say all the things that
every tyrant in history has ever said, but because they don’t wear a uniform, and we’re conditioned to believe only
tyrants wear uniforms, it doesn’t register with the public, you know. In their suits and ties, the Masonic outfit is a suit
and tie, you know. That’s why the suit and tie is the most respectable uniform on the planet, in any country. And all
judges and lawyers will tell you, you appear in court with a suit and tie. That’s because it’s a Masonic outfit. It tells
you you’re giving obeyance to their system. And the tie is your tow cable. That’s part of your initiation. They put the
rope around your neck in a noose.
Jackie: And then they pull the wool over your eyes, Alan.
Alan: And that’s the limitations of your understanding. That’s what it means, the end of that tow rope. So, you put that
tie on, you’re under their system. Everything in this system is Masonic, and all these little idiots at the bottom of the
heap, the low Masons, haven’t a clue what they really belong to. They haven’t a clue. And they give, the one thing that
they all do is take an oath to obey this system, regardless. So, no matter how corrupt it is – and Masons certainly help to
make it corrupt, scratching each other’s backs with your tax money – they will uphold it. So, it’s a pirate type system,
really, piracy. That’s why you have conspiracy. It’s Con’s Piracy, priests and piracy go together.
Jackie: I bet you very few of us have anybody in our near vicinity, that we can actually sit down face to face with. All
of my friends are telephone friends.
Alan: Yes, that’s right.
Jackie: And so many of them, we’ve never met.
Alan: Yeah, and they’re all over, scattered, generally isolated. And that’s what I try and do, I tell them, phone, contact,
because you’ve got to realize there’s other people out there the same as yourself. You’re not alone. Because they’re
aware. They’re aware of what’s happening. And for many of them, it’s kind of scary understanding what’s happening,
and they feel isolated.
Jackie: And it’s a lonely place to be, when you don’t know anybody else, and you think you’re the only one. I
remember when I heard George Bush, “W”, George, Poppy Bush, you know about the first Gulf War and the New
World Order, and I thought I was the only person that heard that. I mean, literally, I did, because I didn’t know anybody
that you could talk to.
Alan: That’s the worst thing. And that’s the scariest thing for those who are waking up on their own, and they’ve put a
leg in front to try and step up, from the dead, and they feel so isolated. They have to be acknowledged by others who
are in the understanding of this, and they should try and keep in touch. It’s so important in this day and age, to keep in
touch, and they’ve got to do it, you know. They have to do it, because…
Jackie: Well, it helps you keep your sanity.
Alan: There’s sanity, but there’s also a power there too. It’s almost like putting batteries together, you know. And once
your mind is linked with someone of a similar ilk, there’s always that contact there. You’re never really alone, you
know.
Jackie: I like that. Thank you for saying that. I like that.
Alan: But that’s what they have to do. And one way or another, they all seek out, you see, and they get caught in the…
I liken the waking up process to coming out of a long, long tunnel, and you see a light at the end, and then you come
into a field, and you see a field that seems wide and beautiful and I’ll just run across here, and then, whack, you hit the
shortwave radio thinking, well this is different. It’s a different media. And yet most, as you know, of the shortwave is
controlled as well, if not all of it. And they can keep you wrapped up in different fallacies, and keep you going in
circles, to try and disable you.
And so you have to remember that field, really, go cautiously across it, and be very discerning on your way. Because
these boys who run the world, don’t miss a trick, and they’ve kept power by this very process of trying to always look
for those who wake up. How do we catch them? How do we waste their time? How do we get them to endlessly go in
circles? and they supply us with leaders. And we’ve got to remember that. Albert Pike said that in his own book; he
was the Pope of Freemasonry. The man who said, make no mistake, Freemasonry is a religion; and people should really
get that message. It’s a religion. And he said we always give the people their leaders. They give everybody their
leaders. All sides. So, the trick is to be tremendously discerning, and use that sixth sense, that instinct you have there to
never just rush into something. They always say that fools rush in where angels fear to tread. And so you never rush,
where you say, oh, this guy is saying all the right things, I’ll follow this guy. And, of course they give us pied pipers, as
they have down through the years. The shortwave was full of them, all ex-CIA guys, ex-FBI guys, ex-Special Forces
guys, that’s exactly what attracts the American psyche, you see, a hero. And they get led a merry dance, and waste their
time.
Jackie: And they have somebody for everybody.
Alan: Yes, they do. And again, there’s a huge business behind all of that too. They lump in all of the health food
industry with it, and miracle products, that God wrote himself with his own hand on walls, and stuff like this. And I just
can’t stand the conology as I call it, the priestology, that’s used on the public. But, those who are really wise, know
what works, what doesn’t, and who to avoid, etc. You know. And people can get addicted to the bad news. And the
shortwave, they make a point of telling you on a day by day basis, what Mr. Bush is saying, what Mr. Rumsfeld is
saying, and what everybody else is saying and doing. That’s irrelevant. As long as you know the whole agenda, the
plan.
Jackie: You don’t need all those nitty-gritty details.
Alan: Yeah, the players that are put in front of you really are irrelevant, because they can get other faces to fill the spot
if they wanted to. You just need to know the long-term agenda and prepare yourself as best you can to get through the
catastrophes I’m sure that they have planned for us. And keeping your food, your basics and so on, is essential really, to
get through. We saw what happened in Louisiana, you know. And how FEMA cut off all the telecommunications for
the whole state. And what they did in New Orleans, you know the people weren’t allowed to even help each other. So,
we see what can happen in any city, during a catastrophe, or if they release a plague, or whatever they do. People
should be as self-sufficient as possible to get through a period, and hope, of course, there’s always a chance you’ll get
moved off of where you are anyway. And maybe all you’ll get is in a backpack. We have to always take that into
consideration. But basic essential foods and so on, are just common sense these days.
Jackie: (Dog Barking) Mariah, it’s okay. Mariah barks at rabbits. I’m sorry about that. She does. She watches out the
window. I didn’t know dogs had that great of vision at night.
Alan: Yes, they can. They can also sense them as well.
Jackie: But I think that’s what she does, is sense them, because she jumps up from a total laydown. Well, Alan, you
know, we’re almost out of our hour here. And maybe one night, we should zero in on some suggestions that you have
for people on being as self-sufficient as possible. Because, you know, try to get through it as best we can. Geez. Most
people are in the dark as to even…
Alan: Well, most people will stay in the dark, it’s only for those who are waking up.
Jackie: I’m talking about our listeners.
Alan: And they can’t put it off. Actually it’s best to always buy in times of plenty, as they say, because you won’t get it
when it’s scarce.
Jackie: Yeah, lots of dried stuff.
Alan: Even if it’s sitting there for a year, it’s still worth it.
Jackie: Mention your website.
Alan: It’s www..com.
Jackie: Yeah, and you don’t even have to say the www.
Alan: I don’t, eh?
Jackie: That’s a given, honey.
Alan: Is it really? That’s 666, that, www.
Jackie: Is it?
Alan: Yeah, in the Hebrew language. 666.
Jackie: Good Lord. I didn’t even realize that. It is. Oh, my, my. 666. Well, you don’t have to say the www. It’s .com.
…And if Julie is listening, I got the book, Julie, and it’s very intriguing. She sent me a book about the Ancient Symbols,
and Myths, and etc, and it’s utterly fascinating, Alan. You know, Ishtar, the Queen of the Heaven. Like Mary, the
Queen of the Heaven. And what’s his name, her husband was the good shepherd.
Alan: They’re all good shepherds.
Jackie: I know. We have to go, folks.
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
March 21, 2006
Jackie: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty and it is Tuesday the
21st of March in the year 2006. Alan Watt is with us, folks, and I know you’ve been anxiously awaiting Alan’s return.
Alan, thanks for being here tonight.
Alan: Yes, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: I got an email message from Leo in England. Have you talked to him?
Alan: I haven’t talked to him but he’s sent quite a few.
Jackie: I like that. That is so neat to know that it isn’t just here in the states but actually all over the world that people are
listening and it’s uplifting to know that we have an opportunity still, Alan, to present truth to people who are searching
for truth. Of course you’ve been such a big part of that for us eight years ago taking us out of that forest so that we could
see the trees.
Alan: Yes, I know.
Jackie: And oh my God, what a journey it’s been.
Alan: It’s been a thick forest.
Jackie: A very thick forest. Before I forget, folks, excuse me. You know that Alan has a website for those of you, unless
you are a brand new listener, his website is .com. I always forget the ending of email addresses. .com. He’s linked there
and the links at Sweet Liberty if you’re listening from the Sweet Liberty website and also in several other places. Alan
has made a home video and you can go over to his website and watch it and it is just wonderful and you get to meet
Alan Watt face to face at least. We get to meet him and it was besides the information that he imparts on that video, to
me it was just such a pleasure to put a face to the voice but to watch his inflection as he talks. I know that Alan is
sincere or Alan would never have been on this broadcast as many times as he has, but to be able to sort of sit there with
him while he’s talking. I appreciated that very much and so don’t go now but after the broadcast if you have time
tonight or whenever, go over. It’s right there on the main page and you’ll see a screen like a TV screen that says,
“Reality Check,” and oh my goodness it’s great. Alan, that was so great.
Alan: So I’m not a robot after all.
Jackie: Mr. Spock. You are not Mr. Spock.
Alan: I know these robots are getting awful lifelike, though, you know.
Jackie: Yes they are, aren’t they, Alan. Well, I really enjoyed that. I guess for the first 15 minutes of listening to it I was
just sitting grinning while I was hearing it because, Alan, we’ve had hundreds of hours of conversation besides the radio
broadcasts and I really liked that. It was like sitting there with you actually what it was. Next best thing I guess. So what
is it – did I leave anything out of that or what–
Alan: Oh there’s a good cartoon there they should look at, to do with the gun boats now being armed with machines
guns on the Great Lakes and so I’ve got a good cartoon in there to follow that up. You see a picture is worth a thousand
words.
Jackie: And I had to have you explain it to me.
Alan: I know, but I think everybody else – I know the Department of Defense has got it because they’ve been looking at
the website.
Jackie: Have they?
Alan: Yes, NSA, and I’m sure it’s doing the rounds.
Jackie: Well, sometimes I just a little naive or something because I felt silly after you explained it to me.
Alan: Well, with a cartoon you’ve got to sit back and let the first impression just come in. If you look too hard at a
cartoon you lose it you see.
Jackie: Maybe that’s what I did. Alan, do you have anything particular that you want to cover tonight?
Alan: Just this doublethink we’re getting, this doublethink with the flu coming in. The CBC talked about and had one
specialist – they have all these specialists to give us doublethink. Half of the specialists are trying to terrify us and the
other bunch come on saying, well, it’s all a lot of nonsense, it’s fuss over nothing; and so they get the people in
doublethink so they’re not sure what to believe anymore.
Jackie: They’re their actual own opposition experts saying that it’s going to come to nothing?
Alan: That’s right. I’m mean there’s more folk died of the common cold this year than this bird flu.
Jackie: Let’s remember that according to reports during the time the Spanish flu was taking around the country, from
what we gather, it was people who were vaccinated the ones that didn’t make it through.
Alan: Always. It’s the same with most of the big inoculation experiments that have done since the 1800’s even; they
made it mandatory in the 1880’s in Britain that people had to get smallpox and different things and they followed out of
maybe 20,000 people, 19,000 of them died of smallpox – all of whom were inoculated. This is traditional. They’ve
given them the diseases that they claim to be fighting and again it’s doublethink because the public have been trained
that the new priests – you see the old priests used to wear the black, the ones who dealt with the commoners; now it’s
the ones with the white coats, the new priesthood.
Jackie: The new priesthood.
Alan: Yes, and we’re trained through television dramas and so on that it’s all so perfect and it’s pure science and all this
stuff, even though their theories keep on changing every couple of years. They’ve trained the public to obey, obey, obey
and sure enough, they run off to get the flu shots which do them no good whatsoever because it’s always last year’s flu
shot they get and the thing is supposed to mutate at such a speed that by the time you get the flu it’s been mutated a
thousand-odd times.
Jackie: Yes and from a report I read to our listeners last week, it seemed that the guy had really done his homework. He
said it can actually mutate twice within one individual.
Alan: Oh, easy. It’s so simple.What they’re doing is using people – when you alter a virus you see and they’ve been
doing this for God knows how long, they’ve been actually altering viruses. It’s probably a very ancient technique, but in
World War II we have documentation on them actually doing it, how they did it and so on, and they used different
animals et cetera to mutate the viruses and then they’d use animals to breed them up and they call these animals
“breeders.”
Now they’re using humans of course to be the breeders. They give you the shot. You become the breeder or the fast
breeder and then you shed off the virus to each other around you and carry it around in society. This is just bunkum
science is what it is and it’s pretty dangerous at the same time.
Jackie: I recall reading reports back in the 1800’s. You were talking about that it was made mandatory.Every country
where they made the vaccines mandatory is where the worst outbreaks were.
Alan: Yes, always.
Jackie: And then once they weren’t mandatory anymore, there were no more outbreaks.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Also, this is what blew me away, Alan. They didn’t really make a smallpox vaccine. They made a cowpox
vaccine.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: The smallpox vaccine was made from the cowpox, so people weren’t even getting a vaccine that would have any
effect on smallpox anyway.
Alan: Yes, but it cut down on the flatulence.
Jackie: Okay, you’re going to make that joke and I’m laughing, but maybe our listeners don’t understand what you–
Alan: If they’re so far back, we’ll let them catch up.The thing is, actually they did that. They passed a fart tax in New
Zealand on the methane created by cows. I mean the government actually put a law through the farmers have to pay the
tax and they call it the “fart tax”. That’s the truth and that’s how ridiculous things have gotten to you know. That’s how
ridiculous it is with bureaucrats and these little petty priesthood scientists talking about how we’re destroying
everything that they end up taxing that. I think there’re just going so far to see what they can actually do to us.
Jackie: And probably just roaring with laughter.
Alan: Oh, I’m sure.
Jackie: They do these things. I remember, Alan, quite a few years ago there was a report, a small report that the UN was
issuing that they were measuring literally the flatulence, the farts from the cattle. They were talking about prohibiting
the breeding of cattle here in the states and doing it strictly in South America because of course the flatulence, the
methane gas was causing the greenhouse effect and of course I guess when they got to South America they weren’t
going to fart anymore, right?
Alan: Well, what it was, they don’t care about the people who live in the Southern Hemisphere. If it all gathers there,
they don’t really care.
Jackie: If it was causing the greenhouse effect, it’s going to happen anywhere.
Alan: Oh, we know that.
Jackie: That’s what I mean.
Alan: It’s all nonsense. It’s no different than King James with his fresh air tax and light tax. It’s the same old rubbish
where they’ll tax anything you dream about. I mean that’s the problem now. There are so many taxes on everything
they’ve got to be very inventive and so they bring out again their paid prostitutes specialists to give some psychobabble
or some techno-babble and explain why they’ve got to have a new tax to stop this, or stop that, or whatever. It’s all to
bamboozle the public into going along with something which is really just another tax grab, something which is
ridiculous, and that’s what they’re doing.
Once we have the brain chip in, then they’ll monitor our breaths, you know, every breath you take, like the police song,
“every move you make, I’ll be watching you.” They already have this in the NASA astronauts’ spacesuits; they have
little chips which monitor their heart, their weight, their pulse, their blood pressure and their respiration weight et cetera
and even how they sweat and the body temperature. However, when you get a little brain chip you see it will do all that
too; and if you go over your limit for the day, they’ll probably tax you or fine you for having too many gulps of air.
People might laugh and it is laughable of course, at the moment, but that will come one day. You know that will come
one day and they’ll have a whole school of theories to explain to us why it must be, you see, until we all parrot what they
say, because that’s the society we live in; it’s run by these new priesthoods.
In the middle ages the Roman Catholic Church had one of the great synods, the great meetings, and all the wise men
from all over the Catholic world came and the priests and the monks and all the different sects and friars and they
debated for weeks how many angels could stand on the head of a pin, you know. You see nothing’s changed except they
keep telling us we’re more civilized and advanced now and it’s done scientifically, but it’s the same rot, nonsense, when
they come up with all these theories they pluck out of the air and try to make a science out of it and a doctrine out of it.
Then they explain to the public why it must be so and we parrot it too. It’s the same techniques which have been used
for thousands of years on the public. It hasn’t changed.
Jackie: Alan, I don’t mean to change the subject on us, but you and I were talking one evening and you were talking
about the New Age, the Age of Aquarius, and you gave me a background on that. On your video on your website I
thought that’s what you were going to do and I think you kind of got off track because you mentioned the Age of
Aquarius. Would you explain to our listeners what you explained to me about that?
Alan: Aquarius – you see there’s multifaceted levels I could explain. I’ll give the main one and it’s to do with the
legend. See, the legend of Aquarius is basically of the most beautiful – it’s mythology – the most beautiful boy who
lived in the Grecian Islands – this is the esoteric story and one day he fell into the water —
Jackie: What was his name?
Alan: It comes from a Greek term – there’s different names for the same thing and the Latin version ends up being
Aquarius, the water–
Jackie: Did you say Ganymede?
Alan: Ganymede is the Greek. In fact, they have a Ganymede Observatory in England named after him. He fell into the
water and of course Zeus the big god you see who basically was a Hugh Hefner of his time. He sort of was into anything
and everything. Zeus came, dived down and raped him – saved him and raped him at the time, because Zeus had to
dominate everything you see and he didn’t care if it was male or female, but he wanted this beautiful, beautiful boy.
According to mythology, the exoteric, he placed him into the heavens afterwards with the symbol of the bowl of water,
the water bearer, and of course the Romans took it over and made it into Aquarius.
What’s behind the legend is another thing, it’s towards the time we’re living at, the Age of Aquarius, where the New
Order was to come in – the new type of human is really what it’s to be. Therefore, that is why it wasn’t until now that
they started pushing – and people are wondering why did it start? Why is so important to start pushing homosexual
marriage and so on now?
It was because it was the wrong time before. They go by this calendar in the sky, this plan, and they had to bring up the
status of the homosexual now, you see, but not for the homosexual’s sake. Everyone who joins or belongs or identifies
with a group is being used for a plan they don’t understand, and the homosexual movement has been used right along
too.
The whole idea is to get culture in such a flux where nothing can be normal anymore. There’s nothing to compare
normal to, if it keeps changing, you see. Once they get you into a flux where anything goes, like the old song, anything
goes, then they can bring forth within this context a new type of human, which will be a clone type hermaphroditic selfreproducing,
a perfect slave, though not the master, but the perfect slave. That’s really what it means.
The homosexual movement has been used to destroy the old culture, the old norm to bring in the new and of course
homosexuals will be out in the cold eventually with everybody else because their job will be over once the new type of
slave replaces them. That’s really what it’s all about because the old man is to be destroyed afterwards you see.
It’s to serve the elite, this new type of programmed part-CYBORG type of being, the hermaphrodite, so that’s why
Aquarius was the age to bring all of this in.
The Thousand Years of Peace according to the mystery religions is literally when we’re all probably chipped and
connected to computers like the Borg and can’t think for ourselves, we’re just robots in a sense, and there’ll be no
trouble from the people anymore, the slaves. That’s what they’re after in the Age of Aquarius.
It’s nothing to do with retaining a conscious mind and making nice decent decisions to all get along together. That was a
con game they foisted upon the public to do with the absence of consciousness.
Individuality will be gone totally once the chip comes in, but they put this into their ancient plan and see Revelations is
a plan. You reveal a plan, reveal, revelation. You reveal it. You see it’s not a prophecy—
Jackie: Thank you. Say that again.
Alan: Revealing. ‘Revel’ from Revelations is to reveal. You reveal a plan. You don’t prophecy a plan. You reveal a plan
you see and that’s why they could write the Old Testament, which was an amalgamation of all the sun gods that have
before and put into the story in one of the gospels where Jesus said before riding in on triumph on a colt et cetera, a
donkey, he says go to town and find a colt tied up and the man carrying a picture of water. He was telling you that his
reign would last as long as Pisces because Aquarius the picture of water would then take over. That’s what it meant.
Jackie: In other words, he was saying it or they allegedly said he said it?
Alan: Well sure, they wrote it all. I mean the same bunch that gave the religions for everything wrote it all.
Jackie: Thank you.
Alan: That’s how clever it is. They actually give you all these clues and for 2000 years you’ve had blind priests and
ministers giving you exoteric stories and everybody believing it and they cause pitch battles amongst each other when
they can’t understand it, but it’s all esoteric. It’s nothing to do with what it seems to be. It’s an astronomical plan and the
great time clock.
Jackie: When you say astronomical, not in the way we use the word sometimes, but literally it’s all based on astronomy
– astrology.
Alan: Well, astronomy really – astrology is the art of the meanings behind on a different level, again; but George Bush,
Sr. when he gave his famous speech on the New World Order coming into view, he said, “I can see a New World Order
coming into view,” coincidentally, in 1990 and ’91, both on September the 11th of course.
Jackie: We have each of those excerpts from those speeches in the website with the dates on them, Alan.
Alan: That’s right. I mentioned them years ago.
Jackie: I hope there’s a lot of people that know today the 911 – you know, call 911 if you’re in trouble.
Alan: That’s right. That’s why it’s there. Anyway, in the speeches he said everything was going to the heavenly plan
and what he was referring to was the zodiacal – the timetable, the clock, because every part of what they gave us as the
astronomical chart or astrological chart is part of a timetable, the great timetable for the Great Work, you see. We’re
now in the Age of Aquarius, and even then they’re arguing about when exactly it started.
Jackie: Right, when it came in. Now, talking about their timetable, tell us what you can about the Mayan Calendar,
which I understand ends in 2012?
Alan: But who said that, though?
Jackie: Well that’s what I – anything I’ve ever read said the Mayan Calendar only goes to 2012.
Alan: You only get this stuff recently you see in the last few years.
Jackie: Well see, I got a Mayan Calendar, and Alan, I couldn’t understand it.
Alan: Until a few years ago it’s always been the same. Nobody else could understand it either. Again, with Laurence
Gardner and all these guys coming to the front and the Art Bell’s et cetera who are meant to shape our minds, now
they’ve got this date fixed in your head – see, this is the whole thing with religion and prophecy.
Prophecy is intended to make you feel impotent on changing something because you think it’s predestined and that’s
what religion has always done for thousands of years is to convince you, “well, there’s no point changing it because,
well, look it’s predestined, it’s god or it’s this or it’s that.”
Jackie: So in other words the Mayan Calendar doesn’t end at 2012?
Alan: Not according to all the other guys. It’s only the undercurrent shortwave crew and the occult booksellers that are
all related to the Nexus Magazine that have been pushing this stuff.
Jackie: But you know that it doesn’t?
Alan: Yes, because when you see government still making plans for the year 2021, and on and on it goes, well these
guys aren’t–look, they’d be taking it seriously too, believe you me, if that were the case.
Jackie: I know but what really caught my attention or because I’ve read it so many times. I took it as, oh that must be so.
That’s why I wanted the Mayan Calendar because I wanted to be able to see it for myself.
Alan: All mystery religions must go through (and Masonry does it too) where you say, “I am.” God says: “I am.” Who
are you? He says, “I am what I am,” and all Masons do the same.
In the Middle Ages it was the symbol of the “Bee,” I be, “who be ye?” “I be so and so,” that’s how you’d reply. Today
it’s “I am,” and Maya is just “I am” backwards. It’s the same old stuff rehashed.
Jackie: Does 2012 mean something to them?
Alan: It will to them because here’s the thing: Arthur C. Clarke who is one of the highest Masons, (along with Stanley
Kubrick who gave us Eyes Wide Shut and a whole bunch of Masonic movies), put out 2001 and 2010 the two movies.
He put out the first one in the 1960’s and used the same camera crews and computer generated space shots that NASA
used pretending they were going to the moon. In 2001, it gives you the Mystery Religion of the high occult in a story
form, which really has nothing to do with space. That’s the exoteric story; so the beginning of the New Age for them for
the last part of the mission, of the Great Work, was to begin in 2001.
9/11 happened in 2001. It was to end in 2010 when a new sun would appear in the sky and “as above, so below,” a new
one is presented on earth, which means in their terminology either they’ll bring forth a new clone or a new king of the
world or something. 2010 was when the big presentation was to happen in High Masonry.
Jackie: What do you know about then the 2012 date?
Alan: That’s just a misnomer for again all the people who are following this on the exoteric level and who gorge these
books up as fast as they’re turned out.
Jackie: Okay, well the reason I’m asking this because there was a Diebold Commission setup. I don’t know, this has
been probably eight, nine years ago.
Alan: I know what the guy said.
Jackie: And the Diebold Report, I’ve got actual photocopies of their report and Ross Perot was on that commission, by
the way, if anybody today thinks Ross Perot was “patriot,” but the Diebold Report ends – basically what it does is it
projects outward what’s going to happen between the year such-and-such to such-and-such and finally it says the U.S.
Supreme Court will rule, and I don’t even remember. I’d have to get it out to see, the ending date of the Diebold Report
was 2012.
Alan: In their system they have to have, number one, to have the amalgamated Americas totally running as one. They
have to have – well, the European Union is already done. That was all written about by Karl Marx in the 1840’s that this
would happen, because he worked for the bankers. Then you have the Pacific Rim conglomerate; they’ll still have to
pick a capital for them. They want us all to be as one. They want a world government to be up running and openly
declaring itself world government. Now it’s doing it; it’s just not openly declared. They also want a new type of system,
a completely new type of system working, so we have to go through crisis after crisis until we’re so weary of real and
fake crisis that we’ll accept gladly the new system that’s to be brought in, which is a scientifically designed and
controlled society.
Jackie: Alan, we’re going to take a break here in just a few seconds. We’ll be right back, folks, with Alan Watt. Stay
with us. All right, folks, we’re back with Alan Watt and we were talking – the year 2012, you don’t know of any
particular meaning it has for them?
Alan: See, they’ve run the world and we get stuck on these things they put out for us on the new age bookshelf.
Jackie: I know, but you always tell us—
Alan: Here’s what I’m going to say, is that they’ve always had timetables to implement different parts all down through
history. If you want to look at how it runs, the UN is the place to look because the UN runs on the same Soviet style
system of where they’ll say, “we want the water supply under our command in 20 years.” They’ll have a 20-year plan
for that part. They want the whole agriculture of the planet under their arm by 2000 and whatever, so they’ll have a 40-
year plan for that. That’s how the Soviet system works.
They even had 100-year plans and it’s the same thing. It’s an ongoing plan. It’s what they call “The Never-Ending
Story,” that’s why they put it into the movie. It’s The Never-Ending Story – that man himself is infinitely malleable and
the building material, and those with the understanding and knowledge of science have the right to keep going as far as
they can go with him.
A Never-Ending Story and the elite have said for the last 100-odd years openly in the books they write themselves, that
nobody reads because it’s too boring, but they have told us where they’re taking us with the genetic modification. They
have the Bioethics Committees, which is the new term they use for eugenics—
Jackie: Oh yes, bioethics.
Alan: It’s a nice user-friendly term you see.
Jackie: It is, isn’t it?
Alan: Of course it’s eugenics, the same thing that we’ve seen down through the ages with the measuring of the cranium,
all of this kind of stuff. Measuring your ears to see, oh my God, this guy might be a criminal when he grows up, and all
this kind of stuff. It’s the same pseudo-science and they plan on creating a purpose-made society. It’s in all the scientific
magazines. The bioethics committees publish their own documentation on all of this.
They’re having one at Oxford University right now on this very subject. They call it bio-enhancement and it’s the same
thing. It’s about how to improve the human race basically and of course – longevity. Well, obviously, since this group
also controls the depopulation program for society, they’re not going to give longevity to everybody. It’s to be the
contrary; they’re killing off the excess working people and they’ll give the longevity to the scientific elite.
You can trace this all the way back to Plato in his Republic. He was a member of the Mystery Schools in his day and he
talks about the perfect world state with the guardians at the top, the dominant minority, and then the helping society of
the guardian class who are the scientific groups and so on. Then, all of the types down below them that will be
specially-bred for their purpose of work; and that’s exactly the same plan that’s on the go today. It’s never changed.
We’re talking not just a 15 or 10-year plan. We’re talking about a 1,000, 2,000, 2,500-year plan for that part of it. This
is an ongoing Great Work they call it in Masonry. Now we are at the end of the phase where they have to get rid of the
old society where you sort of go to school and to an extent you pick what kind of job you want to do. That’s too messy
for them. It’s just not efficient enough. The new society must be completely efficient and they will literally breed people
for their task that they’ll have to perform throughout their life. That’s to be the new society. They’re well on their way,
actually.
Jackie: School to work is a big part of that.
Alan: That’s the Soviet. They took the whole Soviet system and experimentation that was done and proved it and
brought it here and it’s in place right now. Therefore, if they want you right now to be a motor mechanic, they’ll take
you at five years of age and give you the basics that you’d have to know to be a motor mechanic. No history, geography
or anything. You won’t need that.
Jackie: You know in talking about this, it’s happened to me also. For example, school to work. When you find out that
they’re going to train them for a particular positions and you don’t disbelieve it, but somehow, Alan, it doesn’t seem to
like you know register. I’ll tell you what happened here and this has been probably nine years ago. There’s a factory–
I’m in Tioga County, Pennsylvania here. It’s a large area of land with about–I think the population is maybe 40,000 or
something. Well, right here in Tioga County is the seventh poorest county in the State of Pennsylvania. There is a
factory about eight miles from where I live and it is owned by the Japanese and there was a huge newspaper report
about this factory. They didn’t use the word “school to work” but that they are training the children today in the schools
to be ready to go to work in that factory, but they have to have certain skills and they’re training them for the skills to be
able to work in that Japanese factory.
Alan: You see what they did and again it’s all the United Nations. The United Nations want the human habitat areas,
which have been set up for a while, and to be self-sustaining communities, so your work will be in the local – it’s like a
factory town like they had in the 1800’s throughout the U.S.
Jackie: Reading that really brought it home to me. To see it actually being done right there in our own neighborhood.
Alan: Everything is run on a system of economics in this fake artificial system and we have a fake economic system to
begin with. It isn’t a natural system so everything which it spawns must be more deviant than itself and that’s why we’re
rushing toward the ultimate deviancy in everything. It keeps multiplying itself into more devious areas because its
foundation is rotten and deviant to begin with. This whole economic system is unnatural. It can only spawn more
unnaturalness until you have total deviancy and ultimately you have some kind of system which is totally inhumane, in
fact it’s anti-human, and that’s what we’re seeing.
They at the top call it efficiency. Now we know that the elite themselves have written about it themselves, like Charles
Galton Darwin and others. Bertrand Russell, Lord Bertrand Russell and many of the top boys who worked for the
establishment wrote about it and said that the elite themselves will not genetically alter themselves, but they’ll do all the
genetic alternations on the working people.
Jackie: Well, because he said the subjects must have a master.
Alan: There’s no doubt about it. These people have never given – I mean Democracy was just a con game to fool the
public. “Democracy” has many meanings and the ones at the top have is nothing like the ones at the bottom. It’s the
same with Communism. Lenin said it. He said, to the mob, he said, we’ll give them an ideal of Communism for the
workers and for the middle ones at the management level we give them a different version of Communism and we give
the scientific version of Communism to the Politburo class. It’s the same old con game down through the ages. There
are no sides to this.
Communism and capitalism are just the two antipodes, the two opposing forces, to create the third way; and today
they’ve all come together. Without Communism they couldn’t have created the massive bureaucratic multi-layered
strata to manage us all. That was really what Socialism was all about, and I think it was Khrushchev himself who said
that “Communism was just Socialism in a hurry.” That’s what he said. We’re all under the Socialist bureaucratic system
of experts and Lenin said it too in the beginning of the 1900’s. He said, towards the end of the millennium going into the
next, he said, will come a stage of over-regulation where things will be so over-regulated they become inefficient, as
multi-layered bureaucracies step over each other and step on each other’s toes.
Jackie: And that’s intentional, the chaos?
Alan: It’s all to create the chaos.
Jackie: Alan, you’ve quoted Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book, Between Two Ages, and the subtitle – I have the book, by
the way, America’s Role in the Technetronic Era. He explains “technetronic” as technical and electronic, so he made up
that word evidently. I would like to share with our listeners and then I want you to comment on this. This is in the very
first chapter. He says:
Speaking of a future at most only decades away – and when was the book written, in the ‘70’s? 1970. “Speaking of a
future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted.” Now this guy he’s quoting this
Charles DeCarlo in “Computer Technology,” a book evidently. This is what he said:
“I foresee the time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior
and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain.”
Biochemical. Do you see or do we see a connection between—
Alan: It’s already happening.
Jackie: Well I know. The vaccines and the chemtrails.
Alan: What he’s talking about – yes, the chemtrails.
Jackie: Chemicals he’s saying.
Alan: You’ve got the chemtrails, which basically are full of metallic type particles. Patents came out in the 1950’s on
these chemtrails on the very thing in conjunction with HAARP and scalar technology, and therefore the victims are the
ones who breathe this stuff in. It’s in the food. It’s in the water. You become charged basically. You take out these metal
particles and become a better receiver. You’re like a walking antenna and therefore the technetronic warfare equipment
can beam out signals, which then affect your body and they alter the chemistry of your body.
Jackie: They mention manipulating – I’ve got this highlighted. “Life seems to lack cohesion as environment rapidly
alters and human beings become increasing manipulable and malleable.” Just shape us like a piece of clay.
Alan: Absolutely and it’s a takeover of the mind. If you have the mind of the people, you have the body, you see, and
that’s what it’s all about and it’s an old, old plan. Bertrand Russell also talked about it, where the public wouldn’t even
know it was being done to them and once it was fully effective they’d have no memory of basically what had gone
before; and that’s happening today.
People are losing memory very quickly. They have no long-term memory. It’s all short-term and very short at that, but
the technetronic warfare–see, this stuff, here’s how it ties in with the cell phones.
There was a recent documentary on the CBC on the National, it was a few weeks ago, about a new syndrome, a medical
syndrome of people who are hypersensitive to the microwave bursts of cell phones and cell phone towers and they
showed you a visual of a place in Toronto with all these little cell phone towers. Most of them are so small you can’t
see, but they’re up on buildings, they’re everywhere. Really, as we know, it was already mentioned in Homeland
Security, that cell phones can be tracked everywhere. It’s part of the tracking mechanism. Well, the new I.D. card that’s
coming in, which has an active chip with you DNA and voice print and iris scan, all that stuff, that also will be
stimulated and give off a signal to these infrared cell towers that are all over the cities and towns, so they’ll be able to
track you wherever you go in that city, even into back allies, wherever. It’s a tracking mechanism.
Once they go a step further, which is to come, because the Loyola University talked about the brain chip being ready.
It’s actually ready to go and the regional computers which will program the recipients, we’ll be programmed like the
Borg on Star Trek series, they’re all set up and ready to go and they said all they have to do is convince the public to
accept these chips. Now they’ll do a tremendous barrage of chaos from now until they bring it out to us to accept it, and
then Oprah will come on and tell us how wonderful it is and all that kind of stuff. The technology to track everyone and
basically beam instructions into your chip, which will then affect your body, your brain chemistry and everything, it’s
all up around us waiting to go already through the microwave technology. It’s already set up to do so.
These guys don’t miss a trick. They’re way, way ahead of what the public knows and these cell phone towers, there’s
thousands of them in every city you know. Some of them are only a couple of feet high.
Jackie: And a lot of them are camouflaged. Some of the look like palm trees in the southern states.
Alan: They even put one above a school entrance on the main building because they’re paying them so many dollars to
put up these little towers you know.
Jackie: Oh my God.
Alan: They put it behind the school sign.
Jackie: I wonder how many children – school children have cell phones today, Alan.Lots of them. I know a lot of them
do.
Alan: I know. The MP3 players and the iPods and they have the Blackberry that’s an Internet cell phone, everything all
in one, and of course it’s a status symbol with the parents–
Jackie: They can watch movies on cell phones now.
Alan: Yes, I know.
Jackie: Did you know that?
Alan: Yes, and you’ve got to have your cultural brainwashing one way or another through much music and that’s how
they give us culture, or a lack of it. Everything is set up for this and it’s been discussed at world meetings and the
Loyola University published 600 pages on this with the top scientific experts from all over the planet there, scientists
and microchip specialists and biologists, and they said it’s already to go. This chip is actually well tested. I mean it’s
perfected. I’m sure they were testing it many, many years ago on unsuspecting people and it’s got a coating on it which
will integrate with your nervous system, so you couldn’t even just cut it out easily; it will send little tendrils into your
nervous system and intertwine with them, so it’s a very, very advanced.
Jackie: Sometimes when we talk, I feel such a deep sadness and I feel like I want to scream to people, get out of the city.
If you can get out of the city, get out of the city.
Alan: Well, the cities are where, as Plato said, they create the beehive because nothing is natural within a city; therefore
it’s the easiest place to alter culturally and speed up into this strange work called “progress” that no one wants to define,
except the High Masons you know. In other words, you can do whatever inside a city and of course we’ve seen all that
in our own lifetimes how they can pervert anything in a city so easily and the public go along thinking it’s all quite
natural. They’ll be the first ones to take all the chips, the tracking chips and all the rest of it.
Jackie: Even if they don’t, Alan, the people in the city. Lets say that people who are listening to the broadcast, people
who are much more aware than the average person. When you live in the city, you are so bombarded that it’s almost like
you don’t have a chance. You don’t have a chance.
Alan: I mean personally, I can’t go near a city now. I feel the buzz off it miles before I come near it.
Jackie: The last time I went to St. Louis and Chuck drove me to Columbus and Jody and her boyfriend came half way
and picked me up and took me there because I didn’t want to make the thousand mile drive by myself. Anyway, we got
into Cleveland, we had to go through Cleveland and I looked around and I said oh my God, Chuck, look. Everything is
cement and brick and pavement and there’s nothing real here, and it almost felt like I could feel myself shriveling, like
you’re shriveling up inside and God I feel so sorry for people in the cities.
Alan: Yet, after watching what happened in New Orleans, I think it should be a lesson to everyone that if you caught in
a city in a disaster or a food shortage or a real or phony outbreak where you’re probably dependent on supplies coming
in – well, we saw what happened in New Orleans. It’s the last place you want to be is in a city situation.
Jackie: You know in the book Between the Two Ages, I made a note at the side here. There was a footnote and there
was a comment here a book called, Why Is Man Aggressive, Impact of Science on Society argues that “population
growth crowding and social oppression all contribute to irrational and intensified aggression. Experiments on rats seem
to bear this out. Observation of human behavior in modern cities seem to warrant a similar conclusion.”
Alan: That’s why they created the large cities, to get that kind of behavior going.
Jackie: Right, and it isn’t that people are themselves inherently aggressive. It is the environment.When you’ve got all
these microwave towers, I mean there’s nowhere to escape from the cities, Alan.
Alan: People are not meant to live on top of each other.
Jackie: They live in the ‘burbs,’ the same thing.
Alan: You see it’s an artificial creation and they knew this thousands of years ago at Nimrod what to create the artificial
city. That’s why it’s–
Jackie: Look at the story of Joseph. It says right in that story that he gathered up the people from the country and
brought them into the cities.
Alan: Because the city is where you’re now the master. They’re the servants and you can literally teach them anything
and experiment with all kinds of behavior and make any behavior normal. That’s a fact. Any behavior can be made
normal in an artificial setting.
Jackie: It isn’t that any of us really escape it, you know, because even as rural as we are, we still have the chemtrails.
Alan: You get loaded with it.
Jackie: And that’s doing God only knows what. We’re just not as subjected to the array of “biotechnical” manipulation
of the brain.
Alan: In that CBC documentary on this new syndrome of cell phone tower syndrome, they showed you a visual as you
were standing in this part between different skyscrapers and they showed you the visual bursts of microwave from all
these towers everywhere and if you were standing in the middle you were getting totally bombarded with this. Now this
is an energy pulse, remember.
You’re getting dosed with energy pulsations and at a specific frequency and this does not bode well. The human
organism is not meant to handle this and yet the guys who put this up know what it’s ultimate effects will be. They
know this stuff. They’re not waiting to see what happens. They knew years ago how it worked on people, so they know
what they’re doing is programming the people.
Jackie: The question in my mind and maybe there isn’t an answer, why some of us just had to leave cities. I remember
when – because I lived in Chicago and St. Louis and when I moved to Illinois and started by business in Springfield, I
built my home 50 miles away and I promised because I was so grateful to be able to live away from cities. I will never
complain about the drive and even though I was in farm land and out in the woods et cetera when people would say, oh,
it’s so beautiful here, you know what I would say, Alan? If I had my druthers I’d be somewhere out in the country on a
farm. It’s like it was a yearning inside of me and I know that a lot of our listeners and especially a lot of the shortwave
listeners, some of them go out to where they don’t even have electricity. So it’s almost like birds of a feather flock
together.
Alan: I know, I know and that’s what it’s coming down to is those who understand innately, probably, a lot of them, that
they need the country. They need the stars at night. They need the nature around them you see because that’s your
natural setting. You weren’t born thousands of years ago, or millions – you weren’t born into the concrete jungle. You
were born under the stars or under the sun and that’s nature you see, and the way we’re going is a planned direction by
an elite, which is totally artificial; and as I say, something which is deviant to begin with can only spawn more
deviancy, which technically is our hell ultimately.
Jackie: Our hell. We’re out of our hour and you’re coming back with us tomorrow night?
Alan: Yes.
Jackie: All right, well once again, folks, Alan’s website is .com and I know you’ll want to watch his video and listen to
the information he shares there.
(Transcribed by Linda)
March 22nd, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. This is
Wednesday, today. It is the [22nd] of March, in the year 2006. …And Alan Watt is with us again. Alan, thank you for
being here tonight.
Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Thank you. And it’s snowing in Northern Canada. Well, we’re supposed to get snow tomorrow. And it’s still
30 degrees here and down into the 20s. I was looking at the weather bug on the internet, and we’re supposed to have
cold weather, pretty much for up until next week. And it will get up into the 40s, but it will go down into the 20s at
night, so it’s kind of chilly.
Alan: That’s how it’s been here.
Jackie: I was telling you, when you called me, I had found an article, actually it got emailed to me, okay. And it said
that this article, or this writing, or something is illegal. And I hit the, the whole story was there. But I hit the source,
because I wanted to see where it came from, and it was a story out of the New York Times, Alan. I mean, it was so
ludicrous that I was shocked to see that this was written in the New York Times. Some guy named Crichton or Crickton
or something wrote it. Basically, what he was explaining, and I read it once very quickly, but there was a study done,
and whoever it was that had done this study, discovered that the lack of vitamin B12 could lead to heart disease. And
they patented that discovery. They patented a discovery and now it is illegal to talk about it or to write about it, because
it is patented. And according to the article, Alan, it’s already been challenged, and successfully in court. I mean, in
other words, that the courts have ruled that nobody else can do this study or, it’s just insanity. And I know I wasn’t
reading it wrong. Well, in other words, the title of the article was that this article is illegal, because the author of the
article, whoever wrote it, was talking about a patented idea that he wasn’t supposed to be discussing.
Alan: Well, it makes perfect sense in the control freak world that everything must be owned by the ones at the top.
Jackie: Even our thoughts and even our words.
Alan: That’s right. And all of that is what political correctness is all about. There’s many ways to introduce political
correctness. But tell them about that undercover sting operation, through all those bars in the Texas way.
Jackie: You tell them.
Alan: Well, what I heard was there was thirty-six bars and hotels raided in an undercover sting operation, and thirty
people arrested for being drunk in public places, in the bars.
Jackie: That’s right. And they said that allegedly it wasn’t to, it had nothing to do about protecting people’s rights. This
is what these people were told. It was protecting the public. The safety of the public. Not your rights. And even the
people, this was in Texas, I don’t know where in Texas. I don’t even know if I…
Alan: San something, yeah.
Jackie: San, oh, okay, whatever. That even the people, listen to this. People in hotel bars that were guests staying,
registered guests in the hotel, that were not going to be driving, were still arrested, Alan.
Alan: So, it’s control freak time. It’s so obvious, it’s the new freedom you see, as Mr. Bush said. It’s the new freedom.
Freedom has to be redefined. And so this is the new freedom. It means, enjoy yourself, but not too much.
Jackie: Nah, it doesn’t mean enjoy yourself. It means, live in fear.
Alan: Oh, yeah, sure.
Jackie: That’s what it means, in fear of us.
Alan: When you see armed SWAT teams coming into the bar, and smelling your breath, you know, that’s very friendly.
That’s your friendly policeman.
Jackie: You know, what they used to do is sit outside, you know, and hide some place, and trap people. But now, going
right in there and saying, okay. Oh, and you know what they said. Now, these are the authorities, statements by the
authorities. Bars are to go in and have a good time, not to get drunk.
Alan: Oh, I see.
Jackie: So, you Americans cannot get drunk anymore.
Alan: That’s the redefinition of the good time, now.
Jackie: That’s right.
Alan: Well, that’s what police are for. It’s for control freak times. And they’ve been hiring so many of them. I guess
they’ve got enough on the roads, as it is, you see. So, as they keep hiring this army of police, they’ve got to find new
things for them to do.
Jackie: You know what, they’re not finding. This has all been in the plan, Alan.
Alan: Oh, I know.
Jackie: They’re not finding new things for the police to do. And they’re calling the police in, and they’re getting the
psychopaths and the sociopaths and the people who love power, so that they’ll go and ride roughshod over the people.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Jeff is visiting. And he was in watching the weather channel, just before we came on the air. I’ve been on the
computer a lot today, and I just, it occurred to me, that is why I could feel so edgy. I don’t think it’s good sitting at a
computer for long periods of time. Not only that, you read all this stuff. But I have been on edge, and I wondered, God,
I wonder if they’re bombarding us with something. You know, we’ve been talking about bio-chemical control, and
chemtrails, and the vaccines, and how they can manipulate our emotions. And I’ve been on edge all day long, and a
cranky edge, you know what I’m saying. And I got to wondering, you know, God, I wonder if we’re getting hit with
something here, because, well, it’s me, I’m the only one. But, you know, we’ve been talking about it on the air, and I
thought, that would be just like them to say, okay let’s give them some. You know. But, anyway, he said that on the,
remember, I told you that on the weather channel, they’ve got one program that’s called the weather makers. And I
haven’t watched the weather channel in a long time now. You never know what the weather is going to be for the most
part. But anyway, several times, you’d hear this voice, under, you never saw the face. “You’re watching the weather
channel, live by it.” And he said, he saw the weirdest ad on the weather channel. He said there were people standing
outdoors, looking up at the skies, and he said the skies were lined with chemtrails. It showed this right on the weather
channel. And then the voice said, do you know when the good weather is going to happen? We do.
Alan: It’s in your face, isn’t it?
Jackie: I might start watching it. I’d like to catch that.
Alan: Well, on the weather channel, as far as I know, I don’t have it, but what I understand, everything is a crisis. You
get a drop of rain, it’s going to be a flood, you know.
Jackie: Oh, you know what. Never anything but floods and droughts, according to the weather channel.
Alan: It’s all crisis, crisis.
Jackie: And, you know, when they report on the weather channel that there’s terrible flooding in a certain area. People
have told me, they live there, and there were no floods.
Alan: It’s part of the hype and fear thing, you see. And apparently the weather channel also tells you sometimes, which
towns or areas have the flu, the common flu. So, they’re already getting us hyped up for that, through these stations
they’ve given us, that we think are there to serve us. No, they’re there to create the hype, to condition you.
Jackie: Let me ask you a question. I was talking to Jody, earlier. Her boyfriend got very, very sick, suddenly, high
fever, chills, a rash, etc. He finally wound up going to the hospital, and they said he had the pox, chicken pox.
Alan: Oh, chicken pox, eh?
Jackie: Yeah, but he had had them when he was young. But you can’t get them twice, you’re immune to them. She
said, but wait a minute mom, she said, they’re talking about a new kind of chicken pox, and now they’re giving chicken
pox boosters, chicken pox boosters to the children, for the new chicken pox.
Alan: Well, it’s the new freedom, and it’s the new sobriety, and it’s the new chicken pox.
Jackie: Listen to this. A friend of hers, their relative. I don’t know if it was a brother in law, or whatever, came
suddenly down with a virus, and was dead in five days. They’re having his funeral today, she said. And they have no
idea what the guy had. I told her about. I said, I want you to know this, so that you’re aware of it. You know, this avian
flu and etc. And of course, I got going in it. And then she goes, mom, I want to talk about something different. It’s
enough. It’s enough. Some people just don’t want to know, Alan.
Alan: Oh, I know. They can’t handle the truth. You know. Most people cannot handle the truth. And they won’t until
the bitter end. They’ll still be the same. But you’re talking about the pox though, the chicken pox, you can get it again
as an adult.
Jackie: I didn’t know that.
Alan: But generally what happens, it breaks out as shingles. So, you get rashes around your rib cage, and so on.
Jackie: I did not know that, Alan.
Alan: However, if they’re giving booster shots, they could have evolved a different type, an upgraded form.
Jackie: That’s what I told her. That if they’re giving boosters, you know, because reading about the vaccines, when you
read that smallpox vaccination was actually made out of a cow pox, then they were just spreading disease. And that’s
what I told Jody. I said, if they’re starting to give these children boosters for the chicken pox, there will be outbreaks of
chicken pox going on.
Alan: Probably, because some of this stuff they’ve got now is hybrid. They hybridize the viruses, you know, until
they’re different strains. But you know, we’re getting to a stage now, where you’ve got to be careful because there are
even drugs out there from the pharmacy. One of them, there’s one drug I think, it’s for skin cancer. And a person I
know got it, the drug. And he didn’t have the same cancer. It was some experimental treatment to see if it would work
with arthritis. And the little sheet that came with it from the pharmacy, on the warning, contraindications on it, it said,
stay away from people, avoid people who’ve had recent polio shots because you may be susceptible to the polio. Which
tells you that the polio shot is shedding live viruses. See, here’s where medicine, these theories don’t jive. So, people
are walking around shedding live viruses, and people are susceptible to catching it, if they’ve got a weakened immune
system, or on certain medications which will weaken the immune system. Something doesn’t jive here with the whole
theory of the inoculations, you know. So, yeah, we’re living in Disneyland.
Jackie: Something doesn’t jive. I guess not, Alan.
Alan: That’s right. And speaking of Disneyland, you know that Genesis broadcasting that gives us all our heroes, you
know, they’re owned by the ABN News, ABN Station, or ABC?
Jackie: ABC. American Broadcast. ABC. They’re an ABC affiliate, I think.
Alan: They are. They’re owned by it. And ABC is owned by Disney Corporation. So, that’s why, that tells you who
runs Genesis.
Jackie: And that tells you that anybody on Genesis is definitely going to be censored, and a lot of people don’t realize
they’re being censored, because they’re allowed to say so much. They’re not allowed to say certain things, and they will
not say certain things.
Alan: Personally, I don’t think it’s that at all. I think that’s their job is to give out what they’re supposed to give out.
And no more, no less, or no less of a spin, either. But Disney, as you know, has been in the mind control business for
many, many years, molding the brains of children. And of course, now they’re just doing it in the adults, the same sort
of thing.
Jackie: Yes. Are you making a new video, another one?
Alan: I will be.
Jackie: Not yet.
Alan: I haven’t started it, but I know what I want.
Jackie: Well, I hope our listeners have gone in. Have you gotten emails that people have found it, and?
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Good. What kind of comments?
Alan: Oh, it’s all really favorable comments.
Jackie: I got a, remember I said last night, that I had an email from one of our listeners in England. Well, I got a really
wonderful email from a man in Dublin. And he said that people, he said that, you know, every country is in the New
World Order, but he said, there are people waking up. And he said that’s evidenced by conversations that you hear in
bars. And he said, whenever he gets in a conversation with people, he tells them to go to Sweet Liberty website, and
they come to their own conclusions. That’s wonderful. I do appreciate hearing, well, from all of our listeners. I don’t
get a lot of, you know, email from listeners. But it’s really uplifting to know that what you’re doing is making a
difference for at least some people, Alan. And as you said, you know, if there’s one person that is brought out of the lie,
out of the system if you would, it’s a miracle and it’s a blessing.
Alan: Oh, absolutely.
Jackie: When we know that there have been more than just one, don’t we?
Alan: There have been lots. There have been lots of them. And that’s the key to it. Generally, it’s someone who has
been questioning, and they don’t have the answers, but they’re questioning, and when they hear someone else that’s a bit
further forward, with the explanations, they can catch on quick. And then they in turn can then pass it on to other
people, you know. But you’ve got to be selective in who you spend time with, because I call the people who don’t want
to hear the dead. And you don’t want to expend energy trying to make people wake up. There’s no point. They have to
have started the process themselves. Even if they’re only asking what really is going on, that’s a start, you know. And
really, I mean, with everything that’s happening today, I’m still astounded that people are still asleep. I am, you know.
Jackie: Well, it just proves, Alan, you know, I think, I remember when I was getting the information together on the
fluoride in the water, and reading Major Jordan’s thing that he had done on it. And actually, here in the States they
started it in towns that were near military bases, Alan, that originally, when they started using the fluoride. Because it
does create an apathetic, an apathy. That’s what’s mind boggling to me, like you said, it’s amazing to you that
everybody hasn’t awakened, but, you know, when you show people, and I know I’m being redundant here, but when you
show people the poison warning on fluoride toothpaste, the tubes. You know, keep away from children under six. And
if you swallow more than enough for brushing, seek medical help or contact a poison center. It’s right there. They’ll
look at it, and they’ll say, I didn’t know that, and they keep using it, Alan.
Alan: They’re so conditioned; you see, people who are socialized truly believe they’re being well managed by experts.
They really do believe that. And what they’ll say is, well, they, you know, the big “They,” they would never give it to us
if it was really harmful. That’s what they believe. It’s the same with the soya products. I mean, for donkey’s years they
kept hyping up soya, how great it was, and of course, soya has been used since the days of Thomas Malthus, because
they’d feed that to their slaves, you know, on plantations, and it literally turns the testosterone into estrogen in males,
and makes them docile.
Jackie: So it creates femininity.
Alan: It makes them docile. And now, soya byproducts are in everything now. Everything. Even candies.
Jackie: And one thing I did read, that the only reason that soy is used, and safely in Japan, is that they ferment it first.
So, it evidently kills all of the properties that affect the hormone system.
Alan: Well, what it is, it’s the outer meat they use of the soya bean. Because the stuff that alters your testosterone if
you’re a male is in the center.
Jackie: Is in the center?
Alan: It’s in the center of it. But the companies here, of course, they crush all of it, and use all of it. You see.
Jackie: And people, and the vegetarians, vege-meats that are made out of soy. The whole thing, I know.
Alan: That’s why they can sing soprano, you know. But that’s what they use. That’s also added to all the prisoners in
some of the US states to their meals, by law in Texas. I think it’s Texas, 40% towards their meat products, they’ll have
up to 40% soya, added to it, and the guards are told that, that it’s to basically alter their testosterone level and turns it to
estrogen to make them more pliable and easily managed.
Jackie: Sort of like when we neuter our male dogs.
Alan: That’s right. So, drugs have been used for thousands of years actually, on slaves and so on. And there’s nothing
new under the sun, really. Aldous Huxley, who worked for the Tavistock Institute, and who wrote Brave New World,
and then the sort of follow-up documentary style, Brave New World Revisited, and who was all for this whole agenda,
and he was one of the elite of course, said, What’s wrong with drugging the population to make them happy, and easily
managed? He said, after all, they’ll be happier, the authorities will be happier, and there’ll be less commotion.
Jackie: And there will be peace.
Alan: He said, it will get rid of this troublesome individuality, he said. People will be more uniform, you see.
Jackie: There will be peace in the world, Alan.
Alan: That’s right. As George Orwell said, when there’s no-think, then there’s peace. Yeah, no-think.
Jackie: I would like to do this, and this is way off the subject. We’re going to take a break in about five minutes.
Remember the tincture, that I told you, that the lady at the health food store. I want to share this with our listeners.
Because, it really made a difference. I’ve still got a lot of congestion in my lungs, but it isn’t. It’s coming up. It’s
constantly being brought up and out. And Alan, before, when I would cough, there would be just nothing, and the
pressure, the pressure, the internal pressure was so great that I’d hold my head, it hurt so bad. And it actually, the
morning after I started taking this, I actually woke up and just coughed and coughed and coughed up phlegm. And I
wake up in the mornings now. I mean, I still cough in the morning, because, you know, it accumulates during the night,
it comes up. But I don’t wake up with the wheezing, like I can barely take a breath until I start coughing this stuff out.
And folks, if you would get a pen, or a pencil, and a piece of paper. This stuff is really easy to make, and using it, in
fact, she’s got some more astragalus root ordered, because I’m going to make another batch and keep it on hand. It will
keep forever, Alan. You know, your tinctures are made with 80 proof alcohol. Folks this is a combination of three
herbs, and one of them is astragalus root, and it’s cut and filtered. Roxy told me that she only knows of one company
that makes it, and it’s on back order for her. But you can get the astragalus root and break it up, but this stuff that she
used in the tincture, is cut and filtered. And she said, probably filtering it means they just get the dust off it, so it turns
into looking like leaf. And it’s one part astragalus root, and one part olive leaf, olive leaf, and she used two parts
mullein in hers. And the reason so, is because she had kind of an asthmatic condition. And the mullein is a lung
cleanser, so to speak. It’s for the health of the lungs. And if you don’t have, at the present time a lot of congestion, I
suppose you could make it with one part of each. But anyway, she said, if you were using like a half a cup of astragalus
root, half a cup of olive leaf, use a full cup of mullein, and you get an 80 proof alcohol. I used a brandy because that’s
what Roxy used in hers. And you put it in a jar. You put enough of the alcohol in that it’s covered. But you will find
out that as the dried mullein and the olive leaf begins to absorb, you’re going to have to wind up adding more alcohol,
because you want the alcohol to be over the top of your material there. And then, all you do, is you put it in a jar, cover
it, and once a day, you just shake it up a little bit. Flip the jar upside down and back and forth a couple times. And after
30 days, then you strain it into another jar, and you have a wonderful tincture. And the astragalus root is an immune
booster. And I was talking to my doctor friend, Kevin Imhoff. A couple or three years ago, he told me this Alan, that
astragalus is even better than Echinacea as an immune booster. The olive leaf is an antiviral. And the mullein is to
cleanse out the lungs and the respiratory tract. So, if you’ve got that folks, I really would recommend that you get some
of this material and make it and keep it, because, Roxy takes two tablespoons a day, one in the morning, and one at
night, as maintenance. And when I had that terrible congestion, I was taking a couple tablespoons, I took a couple
tablespoons immediately, and then before I went to bed another, and in the morning, it started coming up. But I was
taking about four tablespoons a day, you know, throughout the day. Anyway, I wanted to share this with our listeners.
I’ve been wanting to share this with our listeners, and I wrote it down tonight to do that. And I think that it’s just about
time, folks, at the half-hour break.
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Jackie: Hi, we’re back with Alan Watt. And if you might’ve tuned in late, you are listening to Sweet Liberty. I’m
Jackie Patru, your hostess. Alan Watt, more than a guest I think. He’s become like a co-host on this broadcast. We’ve
done it together so many times and for so long. I want to remind you too, folks, that Sweet Liberty does broadcast
Monday through Wednesday, and Darren Weeks, which Darren is our webmaster, and Darren does the broadcast
Monday and Tuesday. I do the broadcast on Wednesday, and I want to encourage you to tune in all three nights. Darren
does his homework, and presents documented information, that, without the documentation or sources of the
documentation, I think that some of this stuff we talk about is actually difficult to believe, but anyway, do tune in,
Monday through Wednesday, not just on Wednesday night.
Alan, I wanted to share something with you. I don’t know if I told you this, there was a, you know, we get these free
newspapers around here. And one of them is called the Penny Saver, well we get a couple or three free newspapers
every week, or every couple weeks, or whatever it is. But there was a little ad in here, listen to this. It says “Dead or
Alive: Pennsylvania Mountain Lion Reward. $2,000.” For any of you in Pennsylvania, get your pen back again, would
you. Because you might like to be aware of this. It says, call Jake Holme, and he’s got his home phone number and his
work number in here. And what he’s saying is help save the deer herd. But anyway, they’re offering a $2,000 reward.
Now, I wondered how they could advertise this, Alan, given that of course, we’re told, you know, there’s a fine.
Because even though they don’t exist in this state, they’re protected. And I asked him, first of all, he said, they’re just
sick and tired of all the denials that there are mountain lions here in Pennsylvania. And he said they aren’t Eastern
Mountain Lions because they pretty much became extinct, and they are from the West, but they’ve been brought in.
And he said that he’s, in fact one of the state legislators here, a Senator, I think his name is Madigan or Kadigan or
something like that, is trying to get some type of legislation introduced, and I’m not really sure what it’s all about, but
Jeff called him, and then I got on the phone and spoke with him. He said he’d keep me posted. But, I said, how can you
offer this $2,000 reward. You know that could be the fine that somebody would pay. He said, we want it dead or alive.
Anybody that sees and can get a mountain lion, a cougar. But he said no, there is no law here. He says, you are allowed
to shoot a mountain lion if it is on your property, if it’s, you know, endangering your family, your pets or whatever. And
he said, there have been people that have shot them, and they don’t get fined, because they don’t want to be taken to
court, because they don’t want the masses to really know that they’re here and that they have been reintroduced into
Pennsylvania.
Alan: The rewilding.
Jackie: The rewilding, yeah. But I thought that was pretty cool. And the paper was laying here and it just, I thought I
would share that with you and with our listeners. So, people, well, he didn’t know about rewilding though. It’s just
people fed up with the insanity, Alan. But anyway, I told him, do a search, in your search engine. When I put rewilding
project, I pulled up seven hundred and some articles. So that was pretty cool, huh?
Alan: Yeah, what gets me, is that if people just sat and thought about it logically, like if you’re a tenant in a building,
and the landlord brings another tenant in and puts him in your room, you’d be pretty upset, because you haven’t given
up your notice, and you haven’t even thought of leaving until then. Well, that’s what they’re doing to the public.
They’re rewilding the rural areas with animals for the future, for this idealistic future, that they’re already creating, when
there’ll be nobody left on the rural areas. They’ll all be in these chokey, smoky habitat areas. And that’s the gall of
these guys. They’re actually fixing up for the future, while we’re still living in the country, you know. How disgusting.
They’re so arrogant, you know.
Jackie: And when we were first talking about this, a long time ago on the air, a lady from Wisconsin contacted me, sent
me newspaper articles, and in a State Park in Wisconsin, it was a newspaper article, they re-introduced rattlers,
rattlesnakes, Alan, so then people can’t go picnic in the park.
Alan: That’s to scare the mothers. The mothers will say, we don’t want to go there. It’s around your house, well let’s
get out of here. Let’s go somewhere safe. And it’s all to scare the people off the rural areas, that’s why they’re doing it.
Jackie: Yes, of course, yes, yes, yes.
Alan: I heard they released wild haggis in Scotland.
Jackie: What’s haggis?
Alan: Well, apparently the Scotsmen ate it. It’s a traditional meal there.
Jackie: Oh, Alan.
Alan: I’ll let you look that one up.
Jackie: So, that was a joke you just told me?
Alan: That was a joke there. I can see 10,000 people checking up on the internet to see what a haggis is. It’s actually a
three-legged bird that runs around the mountains, and that’s why it has a third leg, to keep a hold, you see, so it doesn’t
fall down. But no, the Scotsmen ate it. So, they caught it and ate it.
Jackie: Okay. Now, you were born in Scotland, weren’t you?
Alan: Yes, I was.
Jackie: How long did you live in Scotland before you left?
Alan: Oh, quite a few, well, I was moving, I went to different countries even in my late teens. I’d visit them before I
went to live in different countries.
Jackie: Oh, but you actually grew up in Scotland then.
Alan: Oh, yeah. I survived it, yeah.
Jackie: You survived it. You know, I was telling somebody what you had shared with me one time, that in Scotland, and
this probably was long ago, but you said that there was a huge, or a deep, deep, deep hole. They had no idea how deep it
was. And when any adult abused, sexually abused a child, they were just thrown into that hole.
Alan: That was traditional. When the people, the locals had proof, that was it. There was no bureaucracy or police or
trials or social workers and rehabilitation. It was just down the hole with them, you know. And interestingly enough,
there was a CBC special on recently, about pedophilia, and they talked to some of these guys in their 40s, 50s, and 60s
even, who were now out into the community, and being, of course, closely monitored. But one of them said, he says, I’ll
never change. He says, I can’t change. He said, it’s an obsession, you know. And so, it’s true enough. It’s an
obsession with them. They’re very dangerous people, and they know it too.
Jackie: Well, there was an article about a man who had abused many, many children, raped. And he begged them, they
were going to release him, and he literally begged them not to, because he said he would do it again. Or he said, at least
castrate me, do something so that I cannot do this again.
Alan: Maybe they fed him soya.
Jackie: And they let him go, Alan.
Alan: I mean, they cannot stop it. They haven’t found a method of treating them, you know.
Jackie: Somebody asked me, when I was telling them about what you told me. Evidently they had tried to do some
research on it, and this was some time ago, and they asked, well, when you’re talking to Alan, would you ask him if he
could give more information on that because they wanted to actually see if they could verify it.
Alan: What was it though? On what?
Jackie: About the hole.
Alan: That’s right. It was a crevasse really, a deep crevasse in the Ettrick Forest. And that was traditional. I mean, they
just dumped them down there. Of course you could look down there with flashlights. You’d never see the bottom of it.
It was very, very deep. I don’t know how deep it really was. But certainly, you couldn’t see anything with flashlights or
anything.
Jackie: What was the time frame when that was going on?
Alan: That was still happening up into the 1900s. And probably after that too. And the locals all kept their mouth shut,
you know, because that was the old way. That was the old way. Justice was done by the community. In clan systems,
there was still a tribal system there. You didn’t need law, because your culture was the law. Everybody knew the rules.
And anybody that broke them knew what the punishment would be.
Jackie: And children were well.
Alan: They could travel all over the hills and so on, and come home safely. No one had to worry. Mind you, they were
not flooding. They didn’t have TV, etc., to flood people’s minds with pornography all the time. But yeah, they made
short work of the pedophiles.
Jackie: And I suppose that would be hard for somebody to actually confirm and research, because it was more of a tribal
thing.
Alan: Actually, it happened in more localities than just that. Justice was swift. In fact the law wasn’t light, at all, right
into the 20th century, up in the highlands. In fact, the people there looked upon the law as their enemy, traditionally.
Anybody in uniform, I mean, the highlands had been so persecuted for such a long time that the English law with
uniforms, uniformity, one form, Masonic, they just did not like the police at all.
Jackie: Well, they were smart, Alan. Because the laws are always so stupid.
Alan: Well, it’s not just that. It’s that men in uniform are dangerous, because they do whatever they’re ordered to do.
And that’s just a fact. It doesn’t matter if their country gets taken over, even by another country. We saw that in France
and different countries when Germany walked in. The police just went to work the next day as usual. And they do
whatever they’re told to do. They don’t care who their master is. And it’s because of the type that goes into police
forces. These people are basically the school bullies. They like to see the average person squirm when they’re asked for
ID or whatever. They get their kicks on that, you know. And police have always been the same. But in places like the
Island of Skye, when people were getting moved off their land, it was the police forces that were sent out to do it. And
they beat the people, male and female with clubs and everything. They were merciless. So, the people in the highlands
have a long memory of this kind of stuff. You know, uniformity. That’s why in Britain they had a healthy distance
between themselves and even the military uniform. Because the military all over Europe has always been turned on
their own people. Always. And that’s what America hasn’t seen, yet, well actually it started…
Jackie: Well, they have, but they don’t see it, Alan. Although, you know what. I’ll bet you any amount of money, if
you told people, that nine out of ten would say that they get the creeps, when, let’s say you’re driving. You’re doing
nothing wrong. You’re not speeding. But you get nervous as heck, every time you see a cop. And I’ll bet, I’ll bet you
that today that people, even the walking dead, in that aspect, I don’t think they see the police as our “protectors”
anymore.
Alan: No. Well, when you see them dressed in black with combat boots, you’re looking at an army. That’s what you’re
looking at.
Jackie: I know it.
Alan: And it’s very ominous. And it’s going to be used on the public. And those guys will use all the weaponry they’re
given, and they will do whatever they’re told. They never have faltered in history. They’re not going to falter now.
This will repeat itself again. It’s ominous. They haven’t been built up into a huge internal army for no purpose. There’s
a purpose behind everything in this world that we live in. It’s all planning. Planning ahead for things to come, and they
will be used for what they’ve been created to do.
Jackie: And you know, that’s what we should get real clear, and hopefully that our listeners do, is that what happened is
not accidental. It’s a long-laid plan. They have their timeline. And it’s the same, as you said, last night, that
prophecies, the so-called prophecies in the Holy Bible and Revelations, it isn’t a prophecy, people who could see the
future psychically. It was written by those, the priesthood, or their minions, who have been in control down through the
ages, and this was their plan. We’re living it today.
Alan: Absolutely. And they’ve laid the groundwork so perfectly this time. Because, when they first brought in video
games which were designed to train military, to desensitize them from killing. And they gave those games to children.
And I said, twenty years ago, one day, I said, we’re going to create a generation of barbarians to go and do and fight in a
war. It was so obvious to me, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.
Jackie: I feel like I should have compassion, simply because of the, the I don’t know. They somehow convince
themselves, and their parents are so proud of them because they’re over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting to keep
us free. And Alan, I can’t find the compassion, at least, that I feel that I should have, simply because I know they’re
being used. They’ve been. It’s like you said on your video, you know, they knock our legs out from under us, and then
ridicule us because we can’t get up. And that’s the way it is with these young men and women.
Alan: We’ve got to realize too, you see, these people who go in in peacetime, when it’s a non-draft, these are voluntary.
They are voluntary mercenaries. Let’s not kid ourselves here. It’s always been this way from even Roman times.
Voluntary mercenaries. And these guys get paid to go out and kill, you know. That’s what a soldier does, no matter
how much they try and whitewash it with this term Peacekeeper, this Orwellian doublespeak. And then the fact is, it’s
like Woodward and Bernstein wrote in their book about Kissinger. When Kissinger told a group of the pressmen,
including these two authors, he said that the American soldier is just a dumb stupid animal to be used for foreign policy.
Well, he was, Kissinger was telling the truth. Because these guys have no idea about what the real long-term agenda of
this is. And what’s more, they don’t care.
Jackie: And they can go over there, and pull the trigger, and shoot.
Alan: It’s just another video game.
Jackie: And children and innocent citizens over there, Iraqis, unarmed.
Alan: Well, they’re taught, you see, they’re dehumanized, and they’re taught to call them ragheads and so on, and
dehumanize them. The same stuff they used in World War II, you know, and then of course with the “gooks”, in
Vietnam. And now it’s “ragheads”. The same techniques are being used, again. However, this generation is worse,
because they were a purpose-made generation to be used now for war. They were bred and brought up with the value of
the State and the media, and much music and video games to do exactly what they’re doing. They’re the bottom of the
barrel.
Jackie: Yes, and then I think about that statement, I happen to have the book lying here, in Between Two Ages, where
this one said that, I foresee the time when we shall have the means to manipulate the behavior and intellectual
functioning of all people, through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain. Somewhere, that has to
have happened to these people. These young people who can go over there, or not so young, because a lot of them have
actually re-enlisted. And just go over there. But, Alan, somehow they’ve convinced themselves that they’re over there
fighting for our freedom.
Alan: Well, that’s why Kissinger said they’re dumb stupid animals.
Jackie: And they should be heroes.
Alan: They don’t know what the real story is, and what’s more they don’t….
Jackie: But I’m saying that’s why there should be some compassion.
Alan: Well, I can’t. You know, I can’t…
Jackie: Well, I haven’t been able to either.
Alan: Because, I mean, if I see a dog that goes rabid, I don’t hate the dog because now it’s gone rabid. However, I’m
still very wary of the fact that it’s now rabid. And that’s how I see these soldiers.
Jackie: But, see, you could have compassion for that dog.
Alan: I could.
Jackie: Because it’s a disease.
Alan: And I know that it was a normal dog before it happened.
Jackie: We might have to shoot the dog, you know, to avoid, you know, being bitten and stuff, or just because he’s going
to die anyway, but there would be compassion there. And it feels to me, like there’s something missing here.
Alan: Well, there is something missing.
Jackie: I mean, for me, that I can’t, I can’t see the wrongness of it and still feel compassion for the insanity that these
people have been living. And if it’s biochemical manipulation of their brain, it’s sort of like you said. Knock the legs
out from under us, and then ridicule us, because we can’t get up. That’s kind of how I see these people who go over
there. They don’t have a damn clue, Alan.
Alan: And they don’t want to know. That’s what Kissinger was saying. He says they’re dumb stupid animals, because
they don’t even inquire into the real reasons. Any superficial reason will do. And I was watching a program on the
CBC here, when they were sending Canadian troops off, and there was one sergeant there, and he was getting ready to
board the plane and say goodbye to his family, and they asked him how he felt going over there. He says, ‘oh, I’m
happy to go,’ he says. ‘I’m a soldier. That’s what I do. I go wherever I’m sent.’ What he’s telling you is, he didn’t
care about the reasons given. He just goes and does what he’s told to do, and he’s happy to do it, you know. Well, that
same guy, if they put a black uniform on him, and bring him back home, once again, he’ll do exactly what he’s told to
do. And we better remember that. I mean, there are psychopaths out there too.
Jackie: That young soldier, what was his name, Michael New. Remember Michael New? He was a hero, because he
said he wouldn’t wear a UN uniform. And when I was talking to his dad, and we said, well, you must be very proud of
him. And he says, well, we told him, that’s what they were going to do. He said, Michael will go anywhere in the US
military and serve proudly, served proudly in the Gulf War, but he will not wear the UN uniform. So, what’s so heroic
about that?
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: But he has been held up, for years.
Alan: As a hero.
Jackie: By many, many people as a hero. And I believe that Michael was brainwashed by his family to do exactly what
he did, so that he would become this hero. I don’t know what was behind it. But I do know that that was a manipulated
thing. And he was being used.
Alan: And young men, let’s be honest, young men who are 18 to 20 are stupid. You see.
Jackie: But see, his dad said, I told Michael, one of these days they’re going to ask you to put on the UN uniform. And
if you do that, you’re going to come home indistinguishable from all the others. So, see, Michael had been fed and fed
and fed to him, but his dad was a member of the Birch Society. You know, that’s their whole scam, get us out of the
UN, and phony conservative, the biggest and one of the first, and so therefore the UN was the issue, see. But I see, by
what his father said that Michael was just set up for that. He was set up for it.
Alan: Well, again, a lot of parents are pretty dumb.
Jackie: His dad wasn’t dumb, trust me. His dad was just a climber and just a pawn for the Birch Society.
Alan: But in general, as I say, all these troops who are 18 to 20, they’re pretty stupid, because young men don’t even
know who they are at that age. And they don’t even know history. They have no idea. And they don’t even know
current history.
Jackie: We just had our 60 second warning, and I heard it, and ladies and gentlemen, we are just about out of our hour
here. I want to remind you that Alan’s website, .com, you’ll want to visit it. You definitely will want to watch the
video, and take a look at the excerpts from the three books that he’s written, Cutting Through the Matrix, or Cutting
Through. I think it’s Cutting Through the BS, don’t you, Alan?
Alan: It certainly is.
Jackie: We’ll be back with you next Wednesday.
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” (Solo)
March 27, 2006
Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is Alan Watt here. I’m filling in here for Darren who’s busy tonight and
tomorrow night Jackie and I will be doing a show together and then probably Wednesday as well.
I got such short notice so I’ve nothing prepared to talk about. However, this morning I got up and the sky was full of
these amazing – the new super latest version of the chemtrails across the sky coming in from the west, really, using the
westerly winds to bring it across the country. These were amazing new types of very artistic trails they were laying
down, brand new types of polymers, which have fluffy little tails on the ends of them, as though someone had combed a
cloud and then there’s a little tuft at the end, so there’re all very uniform, these little twists, these little tails on the end of
them. It was quite a spectacle to pan the sky and take all of this panorama of chemtrails in such an amazing project on
such a huge scale and yet to realize that maybe you’re the only person within 100 miles that actually knows what’s going
on, maybe even further. That’s even more amazing.
Today, I talked to someone who was photographing these clouds in the nearest town and she didn’t know of course that
these were fake clouds and so I filled her in and what I could tell her in about half an hour without overburdening her
with the truth or the history of all of this, but maybe, just maybe, I’ve got someone else to think about what they’re
actually looking at. However, she did comment that it looks so pretty and my first reaction to that was, well, they do
look so pretty because they’re so uniform, the ends of them are so uniform with these lovely little twists and little curls
which don’t occur in nature. Yet, people who haven’t been observing the sky over the years as they grew up and lived
have no memory of what natural clouds look like.
Those who are being brought up today won’t know, they will think this is all quite natural. Quite a few years ago, I said
that one day we’ll see these clouds glow in different colors. I’ve already seen it last year in the summer where you see
rainbow ripples going through some of them, but I think that the old Beatles song said marmalade skies in one of their
songs – we’ll certainly see the marmalade skies in maybe different colors or shades a strawberry to put in their for
effect.
I think it’s so far advanced now they can pretty well do anything and the public would think it was all quite natural.
That’s the beauty, when the parents don’t know to tell their children. That’s the beauty for the elite who rely upon this a
mammalian indoctrination, knowing that if you can indoctrinate one generation they can’t warn their offspring of the
dangers that around them or what’s even natural anymore.
This is the 27th of March, by the way, 2006, for those who still have some kind of memory to go by and I had to look at
my watch to make sure myself.
I was going to talk about these trails and so I say I have nothing set up to talk about really. I don’t want to go off into the
news because I don’t like following the news. To me the news is basically irrelevant as to what puppet is put in front of
the public to declare this law or that law or whatever. They’re just the puppet men.
Those who have studied the whole agenda, or as much as is available to the public, are well aware that the front men
could be interchanged with other faces tomorrow and the same agenda steamrolls on. So I don’t get caught up hitting the
firewalls they put up for us to hit and that’s the politicians, the front men, who are well chosen long before the public
even know that’s their names or their supposed party they supposedly represent. They are relevant to the agenda really.
It’s only important that the public believe it’s all real and that way they don’t question beyond politics; and of course all
of this is designed by people at least – if I use the word people – which are definitely beyond politics.
The global government has been here for a long time. At the moment it is primarily invisible to the public, which makes
sense. You would never put your real leaders into the public view in case anything happened to them. You’d always put
your front men there to take the heat and any real actions that could happen, well, you can replace them quite easily.
They’re just puppets, but you’d never put your real people in front of the public.
We know some of the higher players certainly. We know the Rockefellers have been involved in this agenda for 100-
odd years at least. Beginning with old Nelson Rockefeller who was set up to be the controller of power and energy in
the United States and I say he did not work himself up to it. These guys never did. They always put their own men in
charge of anything to do with power and economics. You couldn’t work your way up in their system unless they allow
you to come up. They open the door for you to come up and you must serve them.
Old Nelson Rockefeller basically did what he was supposed to do – he hired the thugs that set fire to independent oil
rigs and burned them out of existence. All the competition was basically killed off or burned out and he came up with
Standard Oil at the end, but he was backed by bigger guys behind him and authorized to do this.
He was the guy who also turned the militia loose on the miners that were employed by him who went on strike and they
shot lots of them. Then they thought well how can we make this man Rockefeller, this penny pincher, into a sort of a
hero for the people? How can they change his image? And so what they did was they hired two men to create a new
public image after he was blamed for the massacring of all these miners who were living in tents and the militias went in
and machine-gunned them. They hired a guy called Gates who was a PR specialist in public relations and of course I’m
sure it’s an ancestor of Bill Gates, the gatekeeper for Microsoft and so on, and also another guy who became the Prime
Minister of Canada. That was his reward for creating a new public image of the benefactor Rockefeller and he was put
in as Prime Minister of Canada for the Second World War. That was his payoff; so this is how the club works you see.
You scratch my back in high masonry and I scratch your back; and the public can never have a clue what’s really going
on because the media’s there to make sure that they don’t. It’s all public relations. Building images, very much like show
business. In fact, it’s the same crowd who create the images in show business and give us the superstars to follow who
do the managing of these guys and create their public images for us to swallow.
Recently, Mr. Harper, the new Prime Minister of Canada, who was picked by the Bilderbergers and attended their
meetings before he was supposedly elected, gave a speech in Afghanistan to the Canadian troops. In his speech he made
some unusual statements that were sort of un-Canadian. They were almost Hollywoodish and the first statement he
made was – this was in a comedy show in Canada. They showed you this. They showed you a clip of Mr. Harper saying
“we won’t cut and run” to the troops, and then they went back to the host of the show and he says isn’t it strange Mr.
Bush said this. Then they showed Mr. Bush a couple of days beforehand giving the same speech with the same term in
it, “cut and run.” “We won’t cut and run,” he says. Then this host went back and forth between the two, Mr. Harper and
Mr. Bush, showing you four other things he said in the same speeches which were identical; and of course they’re
identical because they were both using the same scriptwriter and this repetition.
It’s a form of almost “psychic driving” as they call it in Tavistock terminology, the Tavistock Institute which came up
with all this behavioralism and behavior studies in society, where they found that something had to be repeated at least
eight times to the public before the public starts to parrot those phrases or terms themselves; and that’s what they do.
That’s why during the build up to the Iraq war, Condoleezza Rice and Rumsfeld and Powell and all the rest of this little
menagerie would appear in front of the public and they would say, “weapons of mass destruction,” over and over until
we’re sick of it you see. They were making sure that the public during their own conversations with each other will start
using the same terms, which they did, but they’ve got to be repeated eight times before the public pick up on it and start
doing it automatically.
Well, of course Mr. Bush and Mr. Harper have the same scriptwriters and they must be “on board” you see and “on
track” with each other on the same path, so they use the same scriptwriters to make sure that the Canadians and the
Americans who are now basically joined at more than just the hip since last March when they signed the “United
Americas Agreement,” March 27th, I think it was. In fact, this is the anniversary of it.
They make sure that they give them the same speeches because we will all be one big amalgamated Americas. That’s
where it’s all heading. This agenda is very old, you’ll find it in the writings of Karl Marks in “Das Kapital” where he
talked about United Europe, which would be first, for a trading block, followed by a Pacific Rim conglomerate, the head
of which at that time hadn’t been picked, and followed then by a United Americas. Each one with a form of local
government – in other words, your national government becomes a local government under the head of a world
government, which is of course the United Nations.
A long time ago the Brotherhood was well aware of where they were taking the world and why they were taking them
this way. We can go back even further to the writings of John Dee and Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth I court, and
this was the period when the Rosicrucian’s first appeared on the scene with their manifestos. This word “manifesto” and
they claimed that through science they would overcome all the problems that the elite were facing. They didn’t care
about theordinary people. They never identified with ordinary people. In fact, they had no problem differentiating
themselves from ordinary people, in less polite terms than the U.S. today.
They wanted a world 500-odd years ago that would be run by an “intelligentsia,” a scientific community of experts, who
would serve the guardian class, the dominant minority, as Charles Galton Darwin called them, and Huxley called them.
Aldous Huxley of “Brave New World”.
They basically parroted an even older agenda going all the way back to the days of Plato where he wrote the “Republic,”
the perfect society, the utopia, and he talked about the guardian class as well who would technically be in charge of the
whole system worldwide, helped by a type of specially bred lower class – inbred, specially bred. Selective breeding in
other words to create specific HUMAN TYPES to serve them.
Small squat guys for mining and tall guys for picking apples off trees and yet he had it all planned down through
basically selective breeding, where the guardians would choose the mates for men and women for their genotypes
basically and actually breed them for a purpose. They’ve never lost site of this goal. It’s ancient, ancient and so it
resurfaced in the times of John Dee and he talked about the creation of a British Empire to Queen Elizabeth the first.
The empire itself, although it was called British, could be called anything.
In other words they could move their headquarters from one country to another, but it was to be based on a form of what
they called “free trade” and those countries which would be part of a worldwide commonwealth – and it’s interesting
term, commonwealth. It really means the wealth of the commoners, because THEY certainly wouldn’t benefit from it. It
was to serve the elite. They did not believe in independent trading but they had this idea of free trade, so it was countries
and those big corporations, which existed by the way in the 1500’s. The British East India Company was formed at that
time, huge corporation, with the members being of the elite and the nobility being the sole members in partnership with
each other and shareholders.
Free trade to them was basically the setting up of a same governmental system, which would eventually be worldwide,
with authorized corporations who would be allowed to trade between those countries with no impediment to trade or
their trade. No tax barriers. Anyone who didn’t join them would definitely face taxation, import duties and exports and
so on; they’d be penalized and shunned in fact. They wouldn’t allow certain goods in. They’d be kept out of the loop and
suffer from it, so they’d forced to ultimately join, but it meant also adopting the same political system. The same
rulership system really is what it is. It’s a form of rulership and they use the term “democracy,” a term which has never
had a fixed meaning in the last few hundred years and every 20 years or so it takes on a new twist.
Supposedly, it was based on the British government and people would forget that only the landowners and nobility at
one time could vote, up until really the late 1800’s, and most men and women, not just the women but most men who
owned no property or who rented didn’t get to vote to the first world war. Hundreds of years before that, THEY were
still calling that democracy – when the nobility alone could vote. It was never meant for the ordinary people, the
commoners or serfs.
Today, they’ve given us the illusion that we vote for matters and that way they’ve found when things get terribly bad
after four or five years the people don’t revolt. They simply vote the last load of corrupt guys out thinking they can get
better ones in; and politicians are fantastically good for doing exactly that. THEY WORK ON PROMISES and they
voice the people’s concerns when they’re running for elections. They’ll mention the corruption of the present
government or supposed leadership and the scandals they’ve been through, and as long as they promise to acknowledge
this, that they also see this and if they get in power, well, my God they’re going to give you utopia and clean things up,
then the public don’t revolt. They simply elect the next new bunch in that gives them the promises and give them four or
five years, then vote them out when they’re just as bad as the last bunch.
THAT’S THE REAL MEANING OF DEMOCRACY. It’s a sham for the public to keep them in hope that four years
down the road you can change the sponsor a new bunch. That’s the hope of democracy; but if anyone who’s studied this
agenda with the secret societies, and yes, there are secret societies, or “societies with secrets” as the Masons call
themselves.
The Masons, even the lowly Masons, are told that there’s two types: Those that are enlightened or illumined and all
Masons even up to the 3rd degree become illumined when they “see the light,” they ask for the light and the blindfold is
taken off, and then they’re lifted up by the Grand Master with the proper grip and they’re now announced to their
brothers, their fellow brothers, their brethren who are also illumined. The other class of those who’ve never been
through these silly rituals are called the “profane,” which means base or “those in the darkness.” The elite call them the
“commoners,” the common public, who are useful and this is called “the natural order of things.”
Albert Pike who was basically the Pope of Freemasonry in the 1880’s and who wrote his “Morals and Dogma” book – I
say “his” book because anyone who’s read it and who’s read a lot of books can tell when there’s different hands in
different chapters, different penmanship and Albert Pike’s is no different. They were teams of people who put that
together and too many specialist areas, from the reading of Hebrew and the Kabbalah and so on, to ancient Greek and
middle Greek et cetera, psychologies, mythologies, the religions of India –that took teams of people to put that together
and all the heroes they give people today are no different. They have teams working for them.
They appear like supermen to the general public because Joe average says, gee, I couldn’t do all that by myself; and
you’re darn right you couldn’t. No one could do it all by themselvesand that’s how thetechnique works because the
public are unwilling to follow an ordinary person who is talking reason because he’s really not famous you see. The
public want to worship someone on two legs who dresses better than they do and lives in a better of standard of living
than they do, and that’s why we’re taught to worship millionaires and that’s WHY WE WON’T LISTEN TO REASON.
There’s a book written many years ago on logic and I think the title of the book was called “Straight and Crooked
Thinking,” and it was a textbook really for logic and reason. It went through this whole system of how THE PUBLIC
ARE TAUGHT NOT TO REASON BUT TO FOLLOW EXPERTS AND PEOPLE OF WEALTH. One of the
examples was to do with Hyde Park in London where orators, any orator, you can be an orator yourself, even if you’re a
tramp – a tramp is a vagabond in old English. It has a new meaning today in North America, but a vagabond could take
a soap box and stand up in Hyde Park and draw a little crowd and spout off what he thought of life; and the public still
go there today and watch this kind of thing going on and they have a good laugh and a chuckle and throw insults at the
person who is nobody,even though he can beSPEAKING ABSOLUTE TRUTH, PENETRATING TRUTH.
However, someone is built up by the media to appear in some big club or theater in London, with a few letters behind
his name and walks on the stage with his duck suit and his bowtie, the public can hear the same kind of stuff and
suddenly it’s very important what this person says; and yet it could be the same tramp dressed up. The perceptions
change because WE’RE TRAINED IN A SPECIFIC WAY FROM BIRTH TO WORSHIP WHAT WE CALL
SUCCESS and those who run the world are never short of giving us people who they claim are successful and whenever
they speak, we follow.
It was interesting that Carl Jung who was a psychiatrist who was way ahead of Freud – in fact Freud was never, actually
he had no degree in psychiatry. He simply had the media to build him up into the superman because his job was also to
change society’s way of looking at things and to base everything on sex; but Carl Jung who was far more intelligent
talked about this phenomena of training the public to believe in the experts. People should really look into some of Carl
Jung’s books knowing remember that he also was a veryhigh Mason. His dad was the head of the Rosicrucian Lodge for
Switzerland. Carl Jung had grown up in a milieu where nothing was forbidden to speak about, all topics were open for
discussion; whereas the people below them, who are still steeped in religion and taboos, would avoid certain topics
because it wasn’t gentile enough. It was impolite or it was simply against God.
For understanding of human logic, Carl Jung’s the one to understand. For a study on someone who put his god who used
to be above him, above his head, down to his lower head, you should study Freud because that’s basically what he did.
He transferred it from above his head to his lower head and everything evolved around sex then.
It destroyed – Freud’s job was to destroy human emotion and human attachments to people and base everything on
purely hormonal responses. He helped to create the beginnings of the culture for what they called free love, a movement
which has started in the 1880’s onwards with people like H.G. Wells, the author.
For more on that, read some of H.G. Wells’ non-fiction books, since Wells was a founder of the Fabian Society and they
said they have to convince the public that free love was natural, promiscuity was natural, because they had to destroy
the family unit – which was the only thing STOPPING THE ELITE FROM TOTALLY DOMINATING THE
INDIVIDUAL. To get to the individual they had to get through the whole family and a small family is like a tribe.
They’ll stick together. They’ll stand up for each other, so the family has to be destroyed and the only way to do it was to
start pushing this “free love” as they called it.
This took in the 1920’s with the roaring ‘20’s when they brought in prohibition. They put the Bronfman’s into Canada
from Russia. I was talking about the Bronfman’s being brought into Canada in the 1880’s in preparation for the role they
would have to play in setting up the booze industry, really, because they had it all planned out that they’d get
prohibition.
Prohibition created more alcoholics than had existed before that because more people, more youngsters went to this
naughty thing of booze cans and they needed a very exciting place to go. It was very bad and naughty and the police
would snoop around and they could pay for their high-priced drinks and have the music there, the jazz that was
sweeping the country, which was all timed to come in at the same time, of course.
For more on the jazz scene, look up the history of music in psychological warfare. You’ll find that Lenin actually put
out a team to kidnap a Jewish guy in New York who was trying to find ways of altering people’s moods through types
of music and he was creating a new type of jazz. He was kidnapped by some Russians and brought over to the Soviet
Union and they did use jazz throughout Europe, except for Britain it didn’t take off there, but just all find the jazz
houses in Denmark and Germany et cetera, all remnants of this movement to create discordancy, et cetera, nihilistic type
music.
The Bronfman’s – an official history made by the Bronfman’s themselves states that they were just poor farmers who
didn’t do any farming and when prohibition came along, lo and behold, they just knew what to do. These little dirt
farmers, they actually bought a liner, a sailing ship which could take booze from Canada to Cuba, bypass all the lawsand
get into the States, plus they smuggled lots across the border to the States, and how they did it was THEY MADE A
PACT WITH SEAGRAM’S WHISKEY OF SCOTLAND.
They imported the barrels. They sold stuff in Canada. They then leeched the whiskeyout of the wooden barrels
themselves byADDING BATTERY FLUID, SULFURIC ACID, which they then mixed up with their own brew and
sold that as high quality booze and that was the beginning of the Bronfman’s/Seagram empire, all made through the
times of prohibition by selling illegal booze and running it across the border into the states. Tremendous organization.
Of course the guys on the other side including the Kennedy family, that’s how they rose to prominence by taking part in
this big brotherhood chain of illicit booze cans. Big money, they also smuggled drugs as well.
It’s also strange that the Bronfman’s name in YIDDISH MEANS WHISKEY MAN. I guess that tells you their true
destiny. There’s a good book by Peter Newman called “The Bronfman’s,” a very good history on this. Peter Newman
tells you at the beginning that he was the second authorized biographer to write about the Bronfman’s, authorized by the
Bronfman family themselves, and he’s careful to tell you in the first chapter that the first guy who was authorized just
happened to fall out of a 50th floor of a building when he was going through the records of the Bronfman’s. So he was
telling you before hand there’s a lot more to this but he couldn’t very tell you.
That’s the reality of the world we live in. These things are done on huge scales backed by big, big, big money in order to
change culture in a certain direction and to build certain people into mass fortunes, which then are used UNDER THE
GUISE OF PHILANTHROPY. A very important word, “philanthropy”. Then they would fund certain NGO groups to
push forward agendas, which politicians would go for and sign into law. That’s the big thing behind charity work and
philanthropy; and again, for more on that, read Albert Pike, the Pope of Freemasonry, “Morals and Dogma,” where he
said that, “we shall become masters over the masters of the world by gaining all the money and using philanthropy,” you
see. This is how the world is run.
There are no grass roots movements that exist long who aren’t authorized because they can’t get funding. The ones who
make major changes in your life by pretending to speak for the people, the animals, the trees or the grass, or anything
else, those are the guys who are funded by the Rockefeller foundation, as is most universities in America and Canada.
They get grants from the Rockefeller Foundation along with certain topics they will forbid to be spoken about or taught,
and that’s how the world is really, really run. MONEY RUNS THE WORLD and those who run the money make the
decisions and the masters behind them do all the planning for it through think tanks and simply pass it on down to the
guys at the bottom. That’s the real world we live in.
As they were doing in the roaring ’20’s in Europe and America and creating the massive depression of course, same
banking boys, same scams, they turned countries like Germany into “sin cities” like Berlin. The CBC did a three part
documentary series – I think a four part actually on sin cities and you can find them in the CBC archives.ca. Very worth
watching if you can get them downloaded or transcripts of them and they show you footage of a devastated Germany
after World War I where women were selling themselves for peanuts to live. They had huge halls where these producers
and Germany was really the top country for movie making at that time, run by these particular producers who eventually
fled to Hollywood when Hitler came in.
You’ll see this incredible dancing girls doing all the same dances you eventually saw in the ‘30’s and ‘40’s from
Hollywood. They called them “hoofers” these girls. That’s how much esteem they held them in and the only difference
is in Germany they were stark naked. There was no shame when you’re hungry you see and every pervert in the world
was traveling over there to indulge their fantasies in these countries which had been shattered by the depression and
morality was being sold for peanuts and food. Of course these producers brought these same dancing girls with their
formations of dancing like flowers and they’ll come in unison like sea anemones and they simply put a skimpy uniform
on the ones in Hollywood and duplicated it there, because free love was to be promoted, which it was, but the fallout
prior to the 1960’s was tremendous because they didn’t have the birth pill. The orphanages couldn’t keep up with them.
They didn’t have the well organized and funded abortion clinics to take care of all the unwanted side effects of free
love, and so they went back to the drawing board during the ‘40’s and ‘50’s and gave us lots of cowboy shows and
cowboy movies where nothing much happened and that was non-political. The scare of the McCarthy Era had been still
running and the Hollywood producers who were hand-in-glove with the same guys in the Soviet Union and so they
churned out dozens and dozens and dozens of boring cowboy movies where nothing much happened, but then the ‘60’s
came along and bang! Out came pop music and out came new fashions with mini-skirts just sort of overnight.
Out came the strange drug called “LSD” which was being thrown by garbage bags full over every university’s wall all
over Europe and some parts of America and free love of course has promoted once again, but now they had abortion
clinics. They had the pill. They had everything working for them this time. They had government sponsored psychiatric
clinics to take care of all the burned out LSD-heads who ended up with permanent psychosis, many of them, and so the
agenda went ahead with much, much more success because the intent going back to H.G. Wellsand free love of the
1880’s was to DESTROY THE FAMILY.
Maurice Strong who works for the Rockefellers and works for the United Nations and who in his ‘70’s runs all over the
planet doing his master’s work, with tremendous energy of course because he’s given a superior form of health care that
level one reality will ever see. Maurice Strong said at the Earth Summit Meeting which he hosted and all he did was
reiterate the agenda that one of the other Rockefellers had drawn up for him.
He said at that meeting that the last bastion against the state being supreme over the public was almost totally destroyed
and that was the family and those remnants that still existed as family would come under tremendous attack now to
totally obliterate it.
In the last two years since we’ve come into the Age of Aquarius knowing what Aquarius means. I’ve explained this on
Eye on the Future Radio.com, you can check that out. I’ll be on there tonight at 11:00 p.m. Eastern. I’ve explained on
there and on Jackie’s show last week what Aquarius really stood for.
It’s the Ganymede story of Greece. Ganymede was raped by Zeus by after falling into the sea. The most beautiful,
handsomest guy in the whole of the Grecian Islands, and so he was buggered by thebig boy himself, you see, which tells
you that that was the era where the new man would come forward, basically the new type of man you might say and on
a road to creating another type.
Not only do you see the new man, you see the new woman and I’m sure you’ll see them walking around in your own
neighborhoods with little Elvis Presley haircuts and the big arms and boots. This is the new man and woman for the Age
of Aquarius because the old type, the male and female,MUST GO and so the family unit is gone. Once that’s gone you
have NO NORMALCY TO COMPARE ANYTHING TO. Culture becomes flux and fluid and when that happens
anything can be ran through. Any changes can be made and there’s nothing to compare it to, so you go along with it;
and eventually they’ll bring forth a new type, a HERMAPHRODITIC CREATURE which will be SELFREPRODUCING,
probably when injected by scientists at a certain age they can produce its own offspring and may
even have its reward for serving the elite by being able to clone itself or REPRODUCE an exact duplicate of itself – the
true Ganymede-Aquarius type.
You’ll find the Jesus story incorporated into the New Testament seeking out of the colt that Jesus was supposed to ride
into the city and so he tells two of his guys to go into town and find the man with a pitcher of water; and that’s THEM
telling you that his triumphal reign would last until the Age of Aquarius because that is Aquarius he’s describing – the
man with a pitcher of water.
They give you the clues of the agenda because this AGENDA IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD.
In Judaism the Rabbis say it came around 4,500 B.C. That’s when the plan for the Great Work was born; and the
Masonic temples if you check the dates of construction, because they always put the date where the foundations were
laid in the temple outside, there’s two dates.
There’s the one for our era where it was constructed and there’s the one that’s AL, Anno Luciferos, after Lucifer. That’s
what it means, so they have the modern date plus 4,500 years, so the Masons have a consensus agreement with the
Rabbis that that’s when the Great Plan was born to create a new type of society, a society run by experts. As the
illuminist, Thomas Jefferson said in his own writings, he says, we (meaning the illumined ones, the illuminati), he says,
we are the natural aristocracy, the intelligentsia.
Those who have proven an interest in science, they can actually alter things in the world, are the natural aristocracy. Not
the natural ultimate nobility but the natural aristocracy.
Going back to Plato, they would be the helpers of the guardians. Here we are today going through the final phases of the
destruction of what was in order to create that which must be. That’s the Masonic term. That’s the phrase they use
because being Masons who build society, the structures of society, just as stonemasons built cathedrals, as they were
building up the new cathedral they were dismantling the old; so they remove that which was in order for that which
must come which must be and that’s what’s happening today.
We’ve watched the take down of society. We’ve watched the state take over control of children. As Lord Bertrand
Russell who worked for the British Nobility and the Royal Institute of International Affairs said: we used to think we’d
have to remove the children from their parents in order to totally condition them to serve the state. That way they
wouldn’t have contamination – mental contamination by their parents, but through experimental schools, which he ran,
he found that if he could get them at the age of two at kindergarten for even three or four hours per day through a special
scientific indoctrination, then any input that the parents would try to put into the child in the evening would be of no
avail; and this is very successful. It’s more economically feasible too because now they can leave the schmuck [add-in:
it has to be pronounced shh-muukk with feeling] parents to bring up the state’s child you might say.
They’re very economic minded. They believe in efficiency. The world that’s to come, it’s in progress right now, is to be
a world where NO ONE WILL EXIST UNLESS THERE’S A FUNCTION FOR YOU IN THAT SOCIETY. There’s to
be a massive reduction in population. This has been going on through sterilization and inoculations from at least the
1950’s. Prior to that they used different kinds of foods, which had similar kinds of effects, and they’d tell you it was a
health food or a fad or whatever, like the SOYA BEAN FAD. However, since they’ve perfected inoculations, which are
bio-warfare techniques you see, perfected in laboratories, they can make sure that a guy will start to lose his sperm
count in his early 20’s now. Now they’ve found that the average male at 25 in the western world has only 25% live
sperm compared to the 100% of live sperm of the guys who lived in 1950. WHAT’S CHANGED SINCE THEN?
Inoculations came in big time like the POLIO VACCINES in 1950’s and that’s the connection.
The same with autism. We hear about autism and about how one in – Jesus! about one in 50 have got autism. It used to
be one in many, many thousands but it’s a “new type” of autism compared to the old. Old autism would always be
apparent from birth, where the child wouldn’t even go through the early “milestones,” as they’re called, up until they say
dada and momma.
Today at two years of age, roughly, when they get a whole set of inoculations, they’ve come up well in the normal
pattern of milestones and after they have the brain fever that comes with it—but the doctors tell them it’s normal and not
to worry about it—they’re suddenly autistic and they’re back to one month old type of thing, a mental age and this is the
DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THE BRAIN.
Now there’s subcategories of pure autism and you have all the attention deficit disorders et cetera and various other
categories of the same thing, until now every school has special classes for this because it’s the new norm. It’s the NEW
NORM you see. It didn’t happen before but it’s the new norm; and Plato, who got all his information from the ancient
Egyptians, he studied in Egypt, was taught all of this: that society is like clay. MAN IS CLAY ON THE POTTERS
WHEEL. He’s infinitely malleable. He’s the most adaptable species on the planet, so no matter what’s done to him he
simply adapts to it and DOESN’T QUESTION THE WHYS.
Zbigniew Brzezinski, who’s specialty was MIND CONTROL and PSYCHOTRONIC warfare and you can read
“Between Two Ages,” this man who advised so many presidents including the present one. He was the Secretary for
War for one or two of them. He tells you the same thing, that shortly the public, he said (this is in the 1970’s), shortly the
public will be unable to think for themselves. They’ll be so perfectly trained that they will leave all reasoning to the
media and if the media doesn’t mention a certain topic, the public won’t repeat it or talk about it themselves. They’ve
given over their right to reason and they expect the media to do it for them. That’s how simple it is today.
He said that they’d be unable to talk normally about anything except what they’ve been downloaded with from the
previous night’s news. That’s happened. That’s happened, coupled with inoculations, coupled with the UN’s AGENDA
to literally drop the IQ through again inoculations.
Read Arthur Koestler on that, on the “Ghost in the Machine” because HE WORKED FOR THE UNITED NATIONS
ON THIS PROJECT. They had to dumb generations down to bring through this new system of a specially ordered
society, much smaller society, which is to COME VERY SHORTLY TO SERVE THE ELITE; and of course if all of
our faculties were working, we’d fathom all of this out very easily and there would be a great mayhem caused, so it
makes perfect sense what you do to upset that.
You make sure that the people have lost a few brain cells in their critical thinking ability centers to pull all of this off.
This has happened. THIS IS THE BAD NEWS and in most people it’s happened. Not in everyone. Not in everyone, but
now of course they’ve been stepping up inoculations and I forget how many dozens of inoculations the child gets before
the age of two now. Their immune system is being destroyed before it’s even developed and ALL OF THESE
INOCULATIONS TARGET THE BRAIN. That’s why you have a fever centered in the brain and where you have a
fever, an inflammation, you have DEATH OF CELLS. That’s what inflammation does.
What happens with inflammation in the brain? You lose brain cells. Gee, this is rocket science. Everyone is looking for
something to come. All the bad things is to come in some all sudden swoop and THE REALITY IS IT’S BEEN GOING
ON FOR A LONG TIME. Most people alive have been through it in their whole lifetime. It’s been going on in their
lifetime.
Now with the spraying, this is what we started with, I’ll jump to what Rumsfeld said after 9/11, the next day on the
news. At least it was shown in Canada when asked how he would cope with a major crisis and in another big, big city,
he says, oh, we’re all prepared for it, he said, to stop panic. He said we have vast quantities of aerosolized Prozac and
Valium to spray over those areas. Well, since these characters are bringing in the whole New World Order that Mr.
Bush Sr. talked about two years running on September the 11th, 1990 and then on September the 11th, 1991, a Mason
play you see on the beast, because read Revelations chapter 9 verse 11 – that’s a Masonic revealing you see.
That’s what they mean by the creature from the pit would be unleashed. The CREATURE OF WAR is what it means,
their system, and that’s why THEY GAVE US 911 AS THE EMERGENCY NUMBER. They’re ALWAYS
LAUGHING down their noses at us because we’re so stupid. We wait for the media to tell us these things, which they
won’t because the media is an essential arm of government.
THEY GIVE US WHAT WE THINK IS REALITY.
If they don’t mention the nasty things, well, we won’t think of them for ourselves. Or we’ll think it’s unimportant. It
can’t be important because the media would tell us, wouldn’t they?
Well, here we have the one minute bell, and as I say, I invite you to come on tonight at 11:00 p.m.
EyeOnTheFutureRadio.com. It’s out of Vancouver. I’ll be on at 11:00 p.m. Eastern time and come into my website. It’s
called: .com. It’s being updated now. I’ll have a lot more stuff on it next week and I hope you listen in and you learn
something and maybe change something.
May your God go with you, whoever or whatever it is.
All the best, Alan.
March 28th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Today is Tuesday. It’s the 28th of March, of course, in the year 2006, and Alan Watt is with us this
evening. …Thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Well, thanks for taking over last night.
Alan: Yeah, it was no problem.
Jackie: Alan, there was something that I wanted to mention tonight. It’s simply because it’s something that’s important
to me. I’ve been doing some research, and this is for our listeners who have pets. You know, when Molly was 9 weeks
old, she weighed 9 pounds. And Molly is a little lab/rottweiler mix, folks, but she really looks all lab. Anyway, when I
took her in, just to have a checkup and make sure she didn’t have worms, etc, she had her first distemper. And she was
9 pounds now, Alan, and the distemper isn’t just a distemper shot, it’s distemper and parvo and something else. So,
they’re actually injecting three different types of organisms into them. Same thing they’re doing to the children of
course, you know when they give the children their diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis shots. And he turned around to a
drawer, you know, to a table, and when he turned back around, he had a big needle with a large vial of stuff in it, and he
walked back to the table. And I said, Dr. Cutler what is that? And as I said it, he shot it into her, and injected it, and it
was her rabies shot. But it isn’t just a rabies shot they get. There’s corona and some other illness that a puppy can get
or a dog can get that isn’t even fatal, Alan. And I said, isn’t that an awful lot to put into a little 9-pound puppy before
they’re, you know, their immune system isn’t even firmly functional. And it’s just the way we do it, he said, you know.
And, Alan, he’s a good doctor, I mean, good in the way that he cares about the pets, the animals, and he’s very
thorough, and yet, when I scheduled her to have her spay, they said that she had to have a booster, what do you call it,
distemper. And I said, no, I’m not giving her another distemper shot. She had two of them, that’s all we’ve ever given.
And she said, well, then we wouldn’t be able to bring her in, because we wouldn’t take a chance on the other. So, I let
them give her a booster, and I asked him about it, and he said, well, we do it annually now. I don’t know when this
started.
Anyway, I was asking him about when they do the spay, they take the uterus out, and I asked if they leave the ovaries.
And I asked him if he was going to leave the ovaries, and he looked at me, quizzically, and he said, no. I said, why? He
said, why would we leave them? I said, well, isn’t that where the hormone production is? I mean, to me, it would be
like throwing a woman who has a complete hysterectomy, throwing her immediately into the change with hormonal
imbalances that are unbelievable. And he said, well, she still would cycle. I said, but there’s not going to be any blood.
There won’t be any uterus. She can’t get pregnant. And he says, well, there’s a little, tiny bit of the uterus left. And
then I said, well, I don’t understand why that means the ovaries have to come out. And then he just kind of shrugged.
And he said, well, that’s the way we were taught. So, I started doing some research. I said, well, I’ll tell you what, I’m
going to do some research, and then we’ll determine whether those ovaries are going to go or not.
So, every single article I read, they call it ovario hysterectomy, and that’s what they do. And finally, I got into some
holistic websites, you know, for animals. And I wrote to one of them and asked what their opinion or knowledge is
about it. And she wrote back today and said, well, there are people now who are asking the vets and successfully to
leave at least one ovary to allow for the balance of the hormones that the dog needs. And because, they say, that once a
female is spayed, in her later years she becomes incontinent, and it causes weight gain. And I just wanted to, I got into
some wonderful articles about vaccines. And there are many veterinarians who are saying that the over-vaccination is
just unnecessary and harmful. It causes all kinds of illnesses and weaknesses in the dog, and for example, the
distemper. They said to give a distemper past a year is totally ridiculous, because mostly the susceptibility of the
distemper is in the first year.
And as far as the rabies vaccine, there’s one article, the man did some real thorough research and found out, this is in
Pinellas County, Florida, it was a doctor of veterinary medicine, but he was holistic. And there was an association of
two veterinarians and there were four of them that actually pushed for this, in the states for the state to mandate, that
there had to be a yearly rabies shot. And several articles that I read said the same thing. Once a dog has had a rabies
shot, they can do a blood test ten years down the road and still find antibodies to the rabies, but yet, every single year
they’re getting them. And I wanted to bring this up, because I think a lot of people have a tendency to just “believe
what the doctor says”. And I’ve made up my mind that she will have her ovaries left in and she will not be getting any
more of the annual boosters that are not necessary. And I just wanted to bring this up so that our listeners, who may
have pets, and we love our animal companions, and really, they’re totally at our mercy, aren’t they, Alan?
Alan: Oh, they are.
Jackie: We take care of them. Anyway, I just wanted to share that before we got on with something else. What are your
thoughts on that? Any?
Alan: Well, I think it’s pretty well like everything else in professions. The ones who go to university get downloaded
with techniques and so on which they themselves don’t question. In fact, the whole thing at university.
Jackie: Alan, boy, I can barely hear you. Would you try to talk loud until we get the volume going there?
Alan: The whole thing is, the doctors themselves are being trained or downloaded with techniques. And the whole idea
at university is to simply parrot back what you’ve been taught, without question.
Jackie: That’s right, because that’s what he said. Ultimately, you know, I said, I still don’t understand why the ovaries
have to come out. And he shrugged, and he said, that’s the way we were taught. And so, there was no question in his
mind.
Alan: No. No, it doesn’t occur to them.
Jackie: And as far as these vaccines, and there were several articles, really good ones that I read, and they said that they
usually get the vaccines for anywhere from 60 to 90 cents a dose. And they charge anywhere from $15 to $25.
Alan: That’s right, I know.
Jackie: So, they’re making a lot, a lot of money. And it was a vet, a veterinarian that wrote this article. He said their
profits and a tremendous amount of their gross income comes from all of these vaccines.
Alan: Sure it does. See, this is the problem in our system that’s money based. And getting ahead, as they say, which is
getting as high as you can in the money tree, you cannot keep ethics and morality apart from profit in this system when
profit is the motive. And so, anything to do with medicine becomes corrupted as soon as a monetary gain is involved.
And that’s a sad statement on our affairs, but it’s the same in the medical industry, for humans, or the veterinary system
for animals. It’s profit based, and you cannot mix morality and ethics with profit. You see, people go into these
professions today for the money and the status. I mean, that’s the reason they go in. In fact, there’s people now, whose
families traditionally were lawyers, who are telling their children to become veterinarians, because that’s where the big
money is coming, because people will spend everything they’ve got to save their little dog or cat, especially the people
in the big cities, where you can’t even get a friend in the same building. So, they’re gouging them through emotion and
the promise to, not even the promise to save the animal, but, you know, the hope that you can save the animal. So,
ethics cannot be mixed with morality when it comes to life, you see.
Jackie: I’m thinking that we need to disconnect and try to reconnect, because your volume is so low that it’s almost
impossible to hear you. And that just is so weird, because when you called about five minutes till, the volume was
perfect, and then we get on the air, and your voice, it isn’t of course from the station, because you and I are connected
together. If Nicholas is there, and could put us to music, I don’t like leaving a lot of blank space, but maybe we’ll just
go ahead. Folks, if you would give us a couple, or three minutes, I’m going to try to have Alan call back and see if we
can get a better connection.
…That has to be very frustrating for our listeners, because so many of them listen as you do the broadcast with me. So,
that’s good, thanks. Well, I’m glad I took the time to do the research that I did, because it gave me the confidence. You
know, another thing I’m going to check out are the doggone heartworm pills.
Alan: Oh, I’ll tell you, I was talking to a vet up this way. And even though it’s a big fad now to push the heartworm, he
said, as far north as I am, he said, they haven’t had a single case of heartworm.
Jackie: I wouldn’t think so.
Alan: That’s what he said.
Jackie: You don’t have a lot of mosquitoes, do you, Alan?
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Oh do you? Oh, but you’re so far away from the….
Alan: The madding crowd.
Jackie: Oh, the maddened crowd. Well, you know the thing is here, where we are, I’m at 1800 feet. And the only time
we ever have mosquitoes, if it’s rained a lot and then gets really hot, you know, when the ground is really moist. But
other than that, the breezes blow so consistently. There just aren’t mosquitoes. I don’t have Molly or Mariah on
heartworm. But, you know, because, unless we do our own homework, we don’t know for sure whether we should or
shouldn’t.
Alan: Yes, I know.
Jackie: Sometimes the cure is worse than the, you know…
Alan: Sometimes the cure is fatal.
Jackie: Right, exactly. And we’re taking a chance. But I am going to look into that, before she goes onto heartworm.
And I haven’t had Mariah on it, for, Mariah or Trusty, for at least three or four years.
Alan: It’s a jungle, isn’t it though, trying to get to it. Again, it’s such a huge business. It’s a huge, the whole
pharmaceutical business is massive. And again, they have a big say in training students at universities through grants
and loans, and so they make sure that their particular thing is pushed as part of the training, you see. And the vets or
doctors end up pushing those products and doing techniques this way, never questioning, because it doesn’t occur to
them, generally, that there’s another motive behind it. You know, generally it doesn’t occur to them, I’m sure so many
doctors today are still giving inoculations and seeing the effects of autism, occur in families that they’ve actually
injected, and yet, they’re still in denial, because they’ve been taught.
Jackie: And it’s the vaccine that caused it.
Alan: Yeah, because they’ve been taught that they’re somehow holier than thou, they’re gods in a sense. And surely
they would not be misled. That’s what they think. And it’s so easy to train whole generations of people in a lie. When
you tell those same people that they’re some kind of saviors in medicine and surgery, well, mostly medicine, but that’s
where we are today. The profit motive is so incredibly huge, and the big companies have a massive say in what is
taught in universities, at all levels. If you look at the Rockefeller Foundation, I don’t think there’s a single university in
Canada or the States that doesn’t get a grant from them.
Jackie: And that they control.
Alan: That’s right. Along comes a list of subjects, and what they’d like to be taught, and what they’d like to be omitted,
and that’s the reality of the life we live in.
Jackie: And you know, of course a lot of it has to do with the money. Jeff said, they just don’t make anything. Why
they’re even doing it to the animals. I said, well, you know, another thing it does, because it’s costing a lot of money, it
creates anguish for the people. For the pet owners, when their pets. This one article, God it was a good one, and this
woman said she has been researching for thirty years and doing a lot of her own testing and that, following animals after
they’ve been vaccinated, etc. She used the example, they’ll bring a six week old puppy in for their first distemper, and
maybe in this otherwise healthy little puppy, oh, the first time might run a fever and be a little lethargic, for a day or so.
Next time, a couple, three weeks later, they’re brought in for their second one, and as she pointed out, when they’re
putting the vaccine for three separate conditions, and she said, in mother nature, in nature, that just doesn’t happen.
They don’t, they aren’t confronted with three separate diseases all at one time.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And she said they’re very rare to find today, but if pet owners will try to get single, like maybe give them a
tetanus vaccine the first time, and then the parvo the next time. Wait a couple weeks in between. But then she said,
after that third time, and she gave some of the symptoms, and she said one of them was that they’ll start itching. And
there’s no fleas. Molly itches her. Remember I told you, Alan. Molly’s scratching, and she doesn’t have a dry coat,
and she doesn’t have fleas. And she also, amongst the ones, there were two that Molly does consistently. She licks her
feet a lot. And I don’t know why. But that was one of them that was on the list, of what they’ve noticed after they’ve
had these vaccines.
Alan: It’s because they sweat through their feet.
Jackie: Well, why is she licking her feet? She licks her feet a lot.
Alan: Well, you see, it causes a little fever after inoculation.
Jackie: I know, but what I’m saying is, this is, she hasn’t had. Now, she did have one just last week, but until then, she
hasn’t had one since she was like ten weeks old. And so, but that’s what she does a lot. She lays there and licks her
feet. And I don’t know what it is, but she said a lot of other problems it causes, the dogs have a problem gaining weight,
they don’t fully develop, or as well as they could.
Alan: I know there’s a lot of temperamental disturbances too.
Jackie: Yes, she mentioned anxiety, separation anxiety. And they always have to be with their owner. She called them
velcro puppies. And boy, I’ll tell you, Molly’s my little shadow. So, she’s exhibiting, actually I said there were two of
them, but there were four of them, that the woman mentioned, and Molly is exhibiting four of them. And it makes me
angry. And what my regret is, Alan, that I didn’t look into this a lot sooner.
Alan: People think it’s so easy to get an animal. They don’t generally think beyond it, because we’re trained to believe
in this system that we’re somehow being taken care of by the professionals, you see. That’s part of our conditioning.
So, we think as far as getting the animal, but we don’t think of the things that are all involved around that. And it isn’t
just a matter of you choosing the animal, now they’ve got laws all over the place, where you must get this for the
animal, and you must get that.
Jackie: Like the rabies shots.
Alan: And also, of course, even when you go to the veterinarians, I don’t know about the US, or the states within the
US, but in Canada, they automatically report it to the authorities that this person has a dog at this address, you know.
So, see, we’re overrun by… Big Brother is everywhere. And it’s the same, I know one guy from Pennsylvania phoned a
couple of days ago, and his daughter is just going into New York University, and to get in to the university now, they’re
demanding that you can show your inoculation data, or they won’t let you in.
Jackie: Well, see I’m wondering about this. When I said, no, I’m not having, she’s not getting any more distemper
shots, and the girl on the phone said, well, we wouldn’t be able to let her come have her surgery then, because we just
couldn’t risk our other patients. And I’m going to print some of these out, and I’m going to give them to Dr. Cutler to
give him the benefit of the doubt, but I will find a veterinary clinic that will take her without the boosters, or, I don’t
know. So, we’ll see what happens next year when her booster comes due.
Alan: This blackmail stuff is getting beyond a joke, you know. When there’s no choices, you see, we’re given no
choices in anything anymore. It’s this way or no way. And that’s getting the same now with sending children to school.
They’ve got to have all these inoculations up to date. It’s the same Big Brother complex where everything is being
observed and noted and observed through their lives, whether it’s animal or human. This is getting to be a totalitarian
system. Well, it is a totalitarian system. They’re just getting more techniques put in place to observe us all.
Jackie: You know, I read about the tetanus vaccines they’re giving the children. You know, because when we were
little, I remember once I stepped on a carpenter’s nail in a board. It almost went through my foot, the ball of my foot,
and they took me down right away to get a tetanus shot. That makes sense somewhat. But, what I was reading about
them, tetanus is not a virus, it’s a bacteria. And you can’t vaccinate against a bacteria. I mean, it’s something that’s not
even around.
Alan: Well, it’s not so much that, it’s the fact that you’d be very hard pressed to see a doctor that’s ever seen a case of
tetanus. That’s the real problem here. Everybody, every student gets shown the same old photographs of somebody
with this awful looking face, taken back in the early 1900s, and they’re all shown the same thing, and they’ve got this
explained to them what this is caused by. But you’ll never find someone who’s actually seen a case of it. It’s amazing.
And if it’s supposedly prevalent in the soil and the ground, etc, I mean, farmers are out there all the time cutting
themselves and getting scratched with different things, and they don’t come down with tetanus. So, it’s such a
ridiculous, I think it’s a scam, to be honest with you. Or, there’s an ulterior purpose for giving it to people.
Jackie: Alan, you hit that right on the head.
Alan: That’s the scary part. And again, all those trained in medicine are hard pressed to come to that conclusion,
because they truly are. The best fool in the occult is a willing fool. In other words, they must believe in what they’re
doing. And, of course, all these people are trained to believe in what they’re doing, and it never dawns on them that
there’s an ulterior motive in that little vial of liquid that they’re giving, even though they’ve never ever seen the inside
of one of these laboratories where it’s made. It’s all taken on faith. And that’s how this whole system works, it’s on
faith. Right down to the mother that brings the child in for the inoculations. It’s a teaching faith based system, and yet,
these big laboratories are guarded like concentration camps. You can’t get into them. They’re like highly classified
areas. You can’t get into them and have an inspection by the public. And you’ve got to say, well, why? And of course,
we know that the depopulation program that was on the go from the early 1900s and spoken about and written about in
many, many books from the Rockefeller foundation of eugenics, the eugenics society, on population reduction, talked
widely about using inoculations to bring down the populations of…
Jackie: Alan, it’s in the protocols.
Alan: And I think it goes even, probably even further back than that, because the elite have always used techniques of
bringing down populations when it gets beyond a certain manageable size for them to control. So, why should it have
stopped, say in the 20th Century? Of course it didn’t, any more than it stopped in the 21st Century. It’s on the go. And
the best way is to get it done by a method which the public will never suspect, because they’re trained to believe that
medicine is their savior.
Jackie: The white-smocked god.
Alan: That’s right, the new priesthood.
(Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back with Alan Watt. I was thinking of this, Alan, talking about the vaccines being used, as I’d
say a big, very large part of their plan for depopulation. In one of the articles, and it was so well written about the
vaccines, she explained it technically, but in layman enough terms that you understood what she was discussing. And
she was saying that many of the vaccines are from, I think they’re called modified live viruses, MLVs. And she said,
basically, what they do is they alter the virus. And the agent that they use to alter it with is formaldehyde. And that
goes into the system, along with the mercury, the thimerosal, and aluminum, and I don’t think the body naturally, easily
expels those metals, those heavy, do they Alan?
Alan: No, they tend to get to the brain and stay there. In fact, in the 1970s, the studies done in Britain, found that in all
the Alzheimer’s patients that were on the increase, they had…
Jackie: Aluminum.
Alan: It was all aluminum particles in their brain. So, this has been known for a long time. And they knew it was from
inoculations.
Jackie: But Alan, think about people who for years used aluminum cookware.
Alan: Oh, I know. And that was promoted, again, from the top. You see, there’s nothing given to the public for the
public’s benefit. It’s always for an ulterior motive by those who run the world. And of course, that’s why they pushed
it. They knew from before World War II, in fact, they knew in the days of ancient Egypt what aluminum did to the
people who worked in the mines and so on. The same with asbestos. The Egyptians had a word, it actually comes from,
the asbestos, from the Egyptian. They knew that the mine workers got this disease and they knew all the signs and
symptoms of it. So, this stuff is ancient knowledge. It’s not new. And yet, through keeping the people ignorant, they
can recycle the same stuff and use the same techniques over again, and say this is good for you. It’s been done over and
over again. And we’re all trained to believe in the scientific elite, like Bertrand Russell said they’d do. They’d train the
public. And if you read Jacques Ellul, who worked for the United Nations, the top sociologist for the planet, basically,
he was quite open. He said all teaching is done through radio and television. He says, through fiction, he says, they
elevate the doctors, through television series and dramas. They elevate the legal system through dramas, and the police
system. These are three main elements of controlling the public. And yet, we’re downloaded through fiction to see it in
a different light than that which really exists. So, he said that all of these dramas are actually propaganda. That’s how
we’re trained.
Jackie: Through our entertainment.
Alan: Through entertainment. That’s right. So, it’s an indoctrination technique. You have no censor part of your brain
working when you think you’re being entertained, so you don’t stop and say, wait a minute, that doesn’t seem right, or
whatever. You get carried along with a story, and you can identify with the characters in the story, and through emotive
techniques, through emotion, you’re actually being indoctrinated into seeing this supposed science in a different light
than really exists, you know, and those people, those professions are then elevated in your subconscious and your
conscious mind to be more superior than they actually are in reality.
Jackie: Well, there was a series on, maybe it’s still on, called E.R. Oh, man. Emergency Room.
Alan: It’s well named though. It’s to err, you see, is human.
Jackie: Err, yeah. That seems a lot of, lot of, lot of people follow that almost religiously.
Alan: And of course, the whole DNA thing now, where they want everyone DNA typed, and they’ve been doing it
actually for quite a few years on the quiet, but that CSI series that they have out there, where every second line is “get
his DNA,” you know. Or get the body’s DNA. Or get this DNA or that DNA, that’s all you hear.
Jackie: They know how to make it sound good too, don’t they?
Alan: Yeah, I know, I know.
Jackie: They tell about, we’ve let seven people off death row by being able to tell by their DNA that they weren’t the
killer.
Alan: That’s it. So it’s pure indoctrination. And the public now, when something happens in an area, I mean, in
Toronto a couple of years ago, a little girl was killed. They knew it was a pedophile who’d killed her, a sexual predator.
And the media went into action, big time. And that’s all you heard every day was about the hunt for this killer, done
near Toronto beaches. And this went on for maybe a month and a half, two months. And they had all the women, the
mothers in the area nervous wrecks to see who was going to be next. And then the police were going around door to
door asking for the DNA samples from every male, street after street after street. And they were giving it, thinking,
well, I guess it’s the law. But it’s not.
Jackie; It will prove me innocent.
Alan: Yeah, but it’s also because they’ve been trained by television that this is somehow law. And it’s not. You see.
So they were doing it automatically thinking, I guess it’s like television, I guess this is law. And all the time, the police
knew who it was, because they monitor all these released convicts, pedophiles, and they know exactly who they are,
where they are, and all the rest of it. So, I think that was one big exercise on the public, actually.
Jackie: And the sickness of it is, think about it, right back to the get-go, they let them go, Alan.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: They let them go to do it again. And then monitor them.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: That’s like the article that I had. It just blew my mind away, it was when they were having the Olympics in
Atlanta. And the article was a fairly large article in the newspaper. I don’t know which one it was, but one of the big
ones, and it told how they had done a sweep, all over the entire region, or area, and a whole bunch of different police
forces, and they all came together, and they rounded up 700 and some known criminals, killers, thieves, they knew
where to find them, Alan. And when you’re reading that, and you’re going oh, my God. You could tell by the way it
was written that they knew where they were. And at the end of the article, it said, it is not determined yet, whether or
not they’re going to be released after the events were over. Oh, my God.
Alan: I know. But that’s again how you keep the public. See, you’ve got to have crime, amongst the public, ongoing to
build up a massive police force, which really is an internal army, working for those who own the system. And that’s
why they have the revolving door, generally, of criminals out in society. It keeps the whole thing going. If there was
very little crime, they’d be hard pressed to keep all these policemen in work, you see, which again is an army that’s
really there to serve and protect those who are their masters. So, they’ve got to have crime going on all the time.
Nothing in life, really, is really the way it’s presented to us. It’s different. It’s very, very different. There was an
RCMP officer in Canada…
Jackie: Is that the Royal Mounted Police?
Alan: Yeah, only generally they’re not on horses, except for shows in a small group.
Jackie: It’s sort of like the state police in the states?
Alan: That’s right. They’re sort of like an FBI, in a sense. And this guy was sent undercover to work with the Hells
Angels to find out their drugs, their movements of drugs, and this kind of stuff. And he brought a book out, eventually,
almost as a protest against his superiors, because he could never figure out why, when he had all the information there.
You might say he had the dope on the dope. And the superiors wouldn’t get raids going on to stop it from happening or
confiscate it. And eventually he was reprimanded, and then he was suspended, for insisting that his superiors apprehend
the…
Jackie: Do something about it.
Alan: Do something. When he had all the information on the shipments, where they were going, the times, all this kind
of stuff. And eventually, there was an interview on the CBC television about it, and about his book, and I could tell by
the way the guy was speaking, he still hadn’t figured out that his bosses and the criminals were all part of the same
group. They need each other. They’ve got to have drugs in society to keep the police force up, to begin with, to have
the crime going on.
Jackie: And then, think about this. They report it on network news, and nothing gets done about it. And talk about the
frustration that must cause, Alan. That it’s, here it is. It’s known. It’s in a book. It’s on network news. Still, nothing is
done. And nothing is done to or about the superiors that wouldn’t do anything about it.
Alan: That’s correct.
Jackie: Sometimes talking about this, it boggles. I mean, you know it, but, God, Alan, the insanity just could drive you
crazy.
Alan: Oh, absolutely. The world, the real world is completely different from the indoctrinated version. The real world
is totally different from that version. And we’re all trained to see the, I call it level one reality. That’s the indoctrinated
version. And of course there’s another two layers, at least, above that. And as they go up the scale, some of them catch
on to what’s going on. Other ones never catch on to what’s going. And that police officer, you could tell that this guy
was sincere. He still hadn’t figured out why. He really was confused, you know.
Jackie: Well, at least he was a thinking person and he did something. Wrote it, and he spoke out, and God love it.
Alan: But, isn’t it strange, you can be watched and monitored about your business dealings, your financial dealings, the
money you spend in a grocery store, all this kind of stuff. And people all over the country who take drugs can phone up
certain numbers and have it delivered to their doorstep, at any time, night or day, nationwide, and they just can’t figure
out who’s doing it. Who’s kidding who? You know.
Jackie: And you know, when you see, living in the US, I used to call it America. But living in the US, and seeing
what’s happening, and the “force” behind it. And it’s all, I mean, so much of it comes from the US. And then you think
of going, you know, just leave. And then you wonder, okay, where do you go? You can’t go far enough into the
woods, they just burn the woods down.
Alan: I know. And we’re constantly monitored.
Jackie: I wonder if there’s a country or a place in a country in this world, where a person could go and live in some kind
of a place that is like out of the world. You know what I mean, Alan?
Alan: I know. Untouched. Yeah, I know. Well, again, when we’ve all been sleeping or trained to be asleep, and
countless generations before us, these boys have been so busy working with the sciences for today, to make sure that
they could monitor everything from space and satellites and all the rest of it. It’s mind blowing to see the planning that
has gone into this, to where we are today. Incredible, minute micromanagement and planning has gone on, by
thousands of think tanks, employed by the big rich men of the planet. And they have pretty well missed nothing, you
know.
Jackie: No. No, and with those satellites, Chuck told me about this. They had a picture, photograph, taken from a
satellite, and it was a fast pitch in baseball. And they were able to zero in so close and literally catch it in one frame.
And if they can do that, it’s true, they could see a mole on your rump.
Alan: Oh, absolutely.
Jackie: Is it those people in the satellites, that they just get a vicarious thrill of just eavesdropping on people, like for fun,
when they’re bored?
Alan: Oh, I’m sure they do. They do it on the phones. We’ve all had experience on the phones. I mean, often at night,
if you’re talking about the occult to somebody, there’s silence, and if you get off the topic into politics or something,
then they start tapping, tapping, and making all these noises, because it’s the young guys they put on the night shift.
And they get bored listening to that kind of stuff. But they love the occult, you see, so they leave you alone then. It’s
either that, it’s either listening to you or Art Bell, you know. So, they give you all these little taps on the phone when
you wander from their favorite topics.
Jackie: Oh they like it when you talk about the…
Alan: The occult, yeah.
Jackie: They do?
Alan: Oh, yeah. They leave you alone. You have silence then, but you wander off it, into just everyday politics, or
what we all do, we tend to go into the bitching mode, you know, because we’re so fed up. That then, these young guys
who are the sort of apprentice eavesdroppers you might say, put on the night shift, they get bored and they start tapping
the phone and making all the noises, to get you back on.
Jackie: You know what I think about? I think about how boring it must be when my sis and I are having our daily
Yahtzee game on the telephone.
Alan: I’m sure they put the lowest guy that’s just started work you know, on that one. That’s what they’ll do. That’s to
give them patience, you see. But it’s the same too, sure. They showed a few years ago in the British Daily Mail, which
you can buy over here, they showed a full page of this huge, well it was only part of a room, but it was an incredible
room, it was a circular room really, with hundreds of television screens, and all these, it was mainly women, sitting
watching them all, and this is from the cameras in London, just in one area. And they also said that not only could they
watch all the people, and again, zoom in on, as you say, a mole on them, you know, or a hair on their chin, they could
also use boom, little tiny boom microphones and hear conversations in doorways at over 200 yards away. So, this is the
incredible observation we’re under, that George Orwell talked about in his book, Nineteen Eighty-Four. We’re here.
It’s all around us.
Jackie: It might have been in Canada, I was reading about, I’m not sure, but some city that was just putting in gobs and
gobs of cameras, and in other places, they said, and I thought about the parks. Remember, in Nineteen Eighty-Four, no
matter where they went there were microphones and cameras. In the bushes, in the trees. And I thought, oh, my God,
when I read it, oh, my God. It’s they’re probably putting them in the parks and camping areas, Alan.
Alan: I know that they are in some places. I know in Texas, some parks there, they have them already. And in
Vietnam, they were dropping them from aircraft, these tiny little, tiny, tiny little dart-shaped things, which were
microphones, and they were dropped along trails, so they could hear when the enemy were coming through. So, they
can also put tiny cameras on them nowadays too, they’re so minute. And they transmit to a fair distance. So, yeah,
everything today is getting monitored for Big Brother.
Jackie: Do you think they can hear when we whisper?
Alan: I’m pretty certain they could. Actually, that’s old technology.
Jackie: Isn’t that a shame. Sometimes I whisper in my own home.
Alan: Well, at the moment, the only place that’s safe is your own thoughts. And if they get their way with
brainchipping then even that won’t be safe anymore. There’s actually a woman, apparently, in Ontario, who’s
supposedly got one of these chips, and who’s testing it out. Now, whether it’s propaganda for the chip, predictive
programming us towards it, I don’t know. But supposedly, she wants to experience what the public will experience,
when they have to use the chip in their own thoughts, to transmit messages, electronic messages, to say their bank for
withdrawing money, with their codes and all this kind of stuff, and to find out if she can shield her thoughts and her
code numbers from other people. So, this is all predictive programming, I think the story itself is, to get us used to the
supposed inevitability of this coming our way. But that was apparently in one of the papers here. So, this is coming.
So, yeah, your thoughts are the only place at the moment that are pretty safe. But if they get their way, it won’t be for
long. They want, you see, for a totalitarian system to survive, everyone must be completely predictable. That’s why
they like uniformity. They like groups and so on. They don’t like individuality. It’s the individual that gives them
problems, not the group. The group is easy to control. And that’s always been their problem, is the individual, you see.
So, they want everyone to be completely predictable for control purposes. And this isn’t my idea. This is what H.G.
Wells, the propagandist for the British government and Lord Bertrand Russell that worked with the Tavistock Institute
in London, this is what they say in their own books. They have to create a world where everyone is completely 100%
predictable, for control purposes. That’s what they call peace. When you have no free will of your own.
And that’s what they’re bringing about, step by step. And of course, the computer is only one step towards it, to get us
used to it. Because we are so adaptable, and they said this in ancient Greece, that the human being was the most
adaptable species on the planet. So, whatever gadget or gizmo they give to us, we adapt so quickly towards it, that soon
we can’t really think of living without it. And of course, the computer now is taking over so much of a person’s life
with their banking and shopping and information transfers, it’s a stepping stone towards the inevitable, which is a brain
chip, which is their virtual reality. And they’re already working through movies to make this sort of thing appealing to
children, by telling them, oh, you’ll be like your favorite comic stars, you’ll have superhuman powers of telepathy, and
you can open things at will by thinking a thought, with having this cyborg type body and a brain chip there, this is how
it’s being put to the people. But, in reality, once everyone has got their chip, the main switch will kick in, and the real
purpose will also take over, which is no more you as an individual person. That’s the purpose of it all.
Jackie; Right. When you talked about people getting so used to their gadgets, and when we moved in here, when we
saw the home, it never occurred to me to look to see, was there a dishwasher, because every home has a dishwasher, you
know.
Alan: Yeah, I am mine.
Jackie: Alan, we got here, and all the furniture was piled up all over the place. Suddenly I looked around and I said,
Chuck, there’s no dishwasher here. And I thought, oh my God. What am I going to do? And I looked at the cabinets
and I thought, I can’t give up any of these cabinets, I need them all, and I actually, knee jerk was totally bent, because I
couldn’t imagine what I was going to do, and then Chuck had said, well, I guess that means handwashing the dishes.
And you know what, it’s just fine with me now. I mean sometimes, I let them stack up in the sink for a day, a day and a
half sometimes, and then have to wash them all. But it’s amazing how we actually think we need some of that stuff.
Alan: And there are people now that won’t even think of using a landline if they’ve got a cellphone. In fact, there was
one guy in the Toronto airport, when no phones were allowed after 9/11 for a week or two, he was crying on the news
because he couldn’t use his cellphone in the airport. And right behind him, you saw all these Bell landlines, the phone
booths, right behind him, but it didn’t dawn on him to use them, you know. That’s how quick people adapt to every bit
of gadgetry that’s given to them.
Jackie: We are out of our hour, already. And it’s amazing how fast it goes. You’re coming back with us tomorrow
night, aren’t you?
Alan: Sure, I sure will, yeah.
Jackie: Okay. Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us tonight. We were kind of all over the place. Of
course, we always are, aren’t we, Alan?
Alan: That’s the best way. It’s non-linear thinking.
Jackie: Non-linear thinking. Because we never know when we’re coming on what we’re going to talk about.
Alan: That’s natural.
Jackie: We’ll be back with you folks tomorrow night. …And Alan, tomorrow night, honey.
Alan: Okay.
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March 29th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is
Wednesday the 29th of March, in the year 2006. And Alan is with us this evening, of course. …Alan, thanks for being
here tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: You caught me not at a real good time.
Alan: Not at a good time, eh?
Jackie: When you called me earlier. I was sitting there going through those emails. And it’s so sad, the propaganda.
And well, as I mentioned to you, somebody sent me an email and I clicked on it, and it was photographs of a rally that
was being held, evidently in Mexico. I think that’s where it was. But these were, the majority of them were young
people, and they were very nicely dressed in all the photographs. Very neat, clean looking. They had big banners, big
signs, this is our continent and we are not Latinos, we are not Hispanics, we are Mexicans, and our land was stolen from
us. And they said thousands turned out. They had a big march. And they had evidently, because there were
photographs of people who came up to read their signs, that they were presenting the information. They were
presenting, so they’re rallying and riling up people in Mexico. And of course, these young people, and when I say
young, I’m not talking teenagers, but you could see that at least a lot of them were in their 20s and 30s, but they had
been riled up. And I put myself in their place. And I think, you know what, if I knew history, as I know it now, I mean
what I know of it so far, it is true that their land, not their land, but the land that was once Mexico was stolen by the U.S.
It was literally stolen. And you know, think about it, that was another good reason for the War of Northern Aggression.
It was a good reason for it, because they had their army and they started sending them there. They started sending them,
you know, out West, and setting up their forts and doing all this. And even the Southern troops, if they pledged their
allegiance to the Union were able to join the army. But I’ve read a lot about that, Alan, and it’s true. But then, when
you look back at that whole scene, you see how, for example the war between the states, how much these creatures
accomplished by that war. So many things. But what’s happening today was laid out all that long ago.
Alan: Yes, it was. I mean, divide and conquer is the old story. And then of course, people forget that the Free Trade
Movement has been on the go for an awful long time, long before it was announced to the public. The Royal Institute of
International Affairs in Britain had published books on ultimately the unification of the Americas and the unification of
Europe, etc, and then the Council on Foreign Relations went into motion working towards this great plan, you see. And
the public really didn’t hear about Free Trade for the Americas, until about the 1980s with the Free Trade Agreement,
which really is the big one. It’s more, really, important than NAFTA. And in there it’s got the free movement of goods
and labor between nations without impediment.
Jackie: That was when?
Alan: That was in the 1980s. The Free Trade negotiations, that was written into it right there and then. And of course,
that was already in the British charters of the Commonwealth, the British Commonwealth countries, from the time that
the Rothschilds took over, they had talked about Free Trade between nations belonging to the Empire, and no
impediment to trade or labor, skilled or otherwise, as needed. So, it’s the same agenda that’s ongoing. We’re blaming
the effects of this on the people that are moving in, rather than the cause of it, and that’s typical, you see.
Jackie: It’s because they don’t know.
Alan: They don’t know, no.
Jackie: And so many of us wouldn’t know so much of what we, the bigger picture. See, I was beginning to learn a lot
about recent, more recent history, the last hundred, couple hundred years. But I didn’t have the whole picture. I didn’t
have the big picture. You gave us the big picture, Alan.
Alan: Well, it’s old really. The first time this was voiced and written down in any governmental papers was in the
1500s in Britain, when John Dee went to Queen Elizabeth I, and he coined the term, we could create a Brytish, meaning
a British Empire. He spelled it with a B-R-Y-tish Empire. And he said, to consolidate our rule over the world. And it
was to be done through trading blocs, setting up of trading blocs, and then they would all share the common monetary
currencies, etc. The same rules, regulations. In other words, they’d standardize the same system worldwide. Now it’s
called democracy, of course. And the same bankers would run the moneyed side of it. And the same higher-up
brotherhoods of the nobility would run the economic side, the law side of it, legal side of it. So that was the 1500s, you
know.
Jackie: Yeah. I think I told you this, speaking about England way back then. I was watching a bio on Queen Elizabeth,
the first Queen Elizabeth. Well, actually, it was sort of like done as a docu-drama I think they call them. But when she
came to the throne, they said that the treasury was literally bare. And these people, her handlers, they introduced her to
this man, and said, he’s going to be the new, whatever they called it of the Treasury. And the name that they named was
not a British name, it was a foreign name. And I thought to myself, well, that’s how they get a hold of the crown. They
get control of the Treasury.
Alan: Well, you’ve got to understand… I think actually they were brought in for their purpose, because they understand
this system. And Queen Elizabeth I, they always talk about the Spanish Armada, you see, attacking England. But what
they don’t tell you, but it is in the old history books, that after the battles were over between the British fleet, and really,
British privateers, like Francis Drake and so on, was that afterwards all the people that they’d conscripted and they’d
had conscription then to do this and press-ganged into the quick navy that they drew up, they had no money to pay
them. So, after the battles, it was ordered by Queen Elizabeth I, to leave them at sea, anchored off the coast. And these
are the days where guys couldn’t swim, very few people could swim. And they waited until plague and famine broke
out amongst them, and they had another ship going around them all taking reports of how many were dead or dying, and
once most of them were killed off, they simply drew their boats back into harbor after dumping off the bodies, because
they didn’t want to pay them any money for what they’d done. That’s the reality of the people who ruled the world then
and their descendants are still running it.
Jackie: They’ve ruled the world since time immemorial, almost.
Alan: Yes, exactly.
Jackie: That’s the whole point.
Alan: And of course, getting back to the, I was surprised today, you just skim through the short wave stations for ten
minutes, and it’s so strange that every station you listen to has got the same reports on about these illegal aliens coming
into the country, as though that’s the only topic they have to talk about, which tells me there’s a coordination between
them all.
Jackie: Well, sure, but how are they reporting it, Alan?
Alan: Well, they’re blaming the immigrants of course. As I say, they’re blaming the effects and not the cause. And it’s
to stir up a racial hatred. They want internal strife to get all their laws put into motion.
Jackie: But you know what of course they leave out, the laws. I mean, the US has been sued by Mexico for not
providing drinking water at the places where the Mexicans are coming in.
Alan: I know, but this is all to agitate the people in America.
Jackie: I know it is.
Alan: That’s what it’s for. It’s a deliberate agitation to create the racial strife, because this again is an old trick. Britain
did it in India. India at one time was a conglomerate of small independent little princedoms. And the British East India
Company went in and in no time at all they had armed different factions, had them all fighting each other. Then they
come in to give them the solution, which was unification and peace, you see. So, they’re doing this. They’re building
up to the same thing again today for a unification of the Americas. They’ve already signed it into law last March,
remember, when Bush and Paul Martin and…
Jackie: The way they billed it was, we’re expanding our borders. And people think, oh, Canada is going to be part of
Mexico.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Canada is going to be part of America.
Alan: And then a reporter for the Global News in Canada stood up right there at Waco, where the meeting was held, and
he said this sounds awfully like the European Unification. He says, is that what it is? And then Paul Martin for Canada
jumped in and he said, well, it’s not quite the big bang. And then he floundered a bit. He was trying to say well it’s not
the full thing. But then George Bush stepped in and got carried away. And he was all excited. And he said, well,
what’s wrong with free trade and free this and free that, and sort of an amalgamation, basically. Not in that word, but
that’s what he meant. And this is the old plan that’s come down from the 1500s. It was reiterated by the Cecil Rhodes
Foundation, that was set up with Lord Rothschild, as a founding member, to create a British-styled Empire across the
world under democracy, under the same central banking system, and with free trade areas. Anyone who wouldn’t join
the free trade areas since the 1500s in Britain has been shunned. In other words you’re not allowed to trade with the
Commonwealth. That’s how they blackmailed the little countries into joining.
Jackie: How wars are made behind the scenes, we’ve put quite a bit of stuff in there in chronological order. But on the
Second World War, out of the book that I have called voices of history, and this was for the year 1941, they had, they
were important speeches and documents. And they had the final, if you would call it, offer by the US to Japan for
peace, the agreement that they wanted Japan to agree to, and in there, you talk about trade, Alan. That was a biggie,
because it had be accessed, be accessed, that’s what Japan had to agree to. And of course, it was an agreement that they
knew Japan could not accept, would not accept. Of course that was all part of the program too, wasn’t it?
Alan: Exactly. In fact, there’s so much on that, because Japan tried to stay isolated. The only ones, mind you, who had
been in there for a long time were the Jesuits. And they had a going concern in goods and stuff from Japan. But the US
Navy sent a warship in to force Japan to trade, you know. And that started off the whole thing. Then Japan thought,
well, we’re so far behind Europe, how do we catch up? Then they sent a delegation over to the United States, to try and
get bank loans, and they met with Mr. Baruch, the great Mr. Baruch.
Jackie: Bernard Baruch. They called him Barnie.
Alan: And there’s a book called the Fugu Plan, and it’s written by a rabbi, Rabbi Tokayer, who’s a Japanese Jew, living
in New York, and he goes through this whole plan, how it was set up, how Baruch financed the Japanese on condition
that they build up their military, their naval ships and so on, and attack China. That’s all documented in the plan. And
then of course, they built up Japan for World War II.
Jackie: And of course the Communists that had flowed into China were flowing into Japan. And Japan was trying to
protect its borders from there. I wanted to say one thing back about what you were talking about last March. The one
thing, I made a note so I wouldn’t forget. I remember in one of the newspaper articles, they referred to it, this merging,
that a continent was restructured in an afternoon. And that was Vicente Fox and Bush and Paul Martin.
Alan: Well, the comical thing is, I don’t know if people realize how much bureaucratic legwork went into all of that,
long before Bush and Fox and Martin met together. These guys were just meeting to…
Jackie: Oh, well, they just rubber-stamped it. It was all ready, right.
Alan: That’s it.
Jackie: Of course.
Alan: They didn’t sit and make about five or six hundred pages up in an afternoon.
Jackie: Yeah, right exactly. Well, like George Bush in an afternoon, you know, after 9/11, came out with all the plans
for the war, and the Homeland Security Department and all that. He gets off Airforce One, all the plans are ready.
Alan: Well, he’s a genius, you see. He just doesn’t show it. That’s right.
Jackie: Okay, well, one of the things too, that you brought to our attention was that that thing was taking place at the
time Terry Schiavo was on national and “international” news. So everybody’s mind was diverted, attention was
diverted from what was going on. Now, one thing that I’m not, I don’t know about is that Japanese-Russian War. How
did and why did they orchestrate that, Alan? And when was that time frame kind of?
Alan: That was just after, and during actually, really, the First World War, and the idea was to, it was actually before,
just before the second Revolution in Russia. The first one was 1905. The next one was in 1917. And it was to get the
Japanese to attack the eastern side of Russia and forcing the Tsar to tax the people to get railroads for supplies and
military down through right to the East. And that really was to help foment the anger amongst the people, who were
being taxed to death, and help the Revolution get under way. That was one of the reasons for.
Jackie: Now, who was that to? Did Japan go attack Russia?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: What was the ostensible reason that they gave the people for this? Why was Japan going to attack?
Alan: The people of Japan at that time didn’t need a reason, because it was such a patriarchal system of just you follow
and do what you’re told. So the Japanese did what they were told, you know.
Jackie: But they never even said why?
Alan: They didn’t really have to in Japan. They had this Bushido Code and the Japanese warrior stuff and nobility.
They’d never known voting or anything like that. It was just follow.
Jackie: Well, let’s say then, the students of history, what are they given, what reasons are they given for that war?
Alan: Well, they’re generally, in the very thin, I call them the thin schoolbooks, in the very thin schoolbooks, especially
the modern ones, they’ll say well, there were certain territories and islands that were technically owned by Russia over
time, and the Japanese wanted to expand. That’s what they’re told. And so, conflict came between the two countries,
and the usual.
Jackie: Go ahead, just for a minute, I’m going to let the… Alan, you’re only going to be with us till about 20 till. I want
our listeners to know this. He’s been invited. I have to go let them [dogs] out. You tell them about it. Tell them how
they can hear you. I’m going to go let these girls out so they can chase the critters out of dodge.
Alan: It was last night at five to nine, just before I went on the show with Jackie, someone phoned me, and just asked if
I’d go on this show. And I was trying to remember afterwards, who exactly it was who’d called, but it’s I believe, I
hope it is, anyway, it’s called Rollye James Show. And that’s found on the net at www.rollye.net. And it’s on satellite
as well. And it’s also on a lot of AM and FM stations across the US, Albuquerque, Gulf Port, Charleston, Cleveland,
Columbia, etc, on a whole bunch of AM and FM stations, and so, I’ll be getting a call at quarter to ten, and I’ll have to
go off the air with Jackie earlier to get that call coming in, and I’ll be on for three hours, till one in the morning. So, this
is a marathon tonight, beginning at nine, and then after this for another three hours. So I hope those who are listening to
the show can tune in. I know that it’s on XM Satellite, I believe, 165.
Jackie: On what, Alan?
Alan: I was mentioning that it’s XM Satellite 165 I think it’s called.
Jackie: Okay, I don’t know anything about that but maybe our listeners do.
Alan: I haven’t a clue either. But, as I say, it’s on www.rollye.net, at 10pm. That’s Eastern time.
Jackie: So, you’re copping out on us, so you can get your breath. Make yourself a pot of tea or something, Alan.
Alan: And go to the washroom.
Jackie: Yeah.
Alan: That’s right, and get ready for three hours. So, it seems to be a lot of stations.
Jackie: It’s a wonderful opportunity to wake up some people.
Alan: It is. I was just thinking today as I watched these manufactured clouds being made right above my head. The
mess we’re living in, and all this stuff that you started with that you were telling me earlier about this thing going
around the internet.
Jackie: Yeah, and I’ll tell our listeners about that after you leave us.
Alan: Yeah, because it’s such… Right now, there’s so much fear and terror of either natural disasters or whatever
coming our way. Meanwhile, people can’t even look above their heads and see this mush that’s being poured down
upon them through the jets. And yesterday we got a video clip, right here, of a jet going across and they had a zoom
lens on it, and you could see these two huge tanks underneath the wings, actually they’re in front of the wings, separate
from the wings. They were not the engines. And they were like two round, big round tanks, massive things. And this
thing was just spraying right across the sky. This is happening everyday, everywhere. I had calls from Quebec today.
Jackie: Where did you see this video clip?
Alan: I made it out at the back, here, took the shot right outside my home.
Jackie: You could actually see the tanks on the one.
Alan: Yes. A good zoom on this video. And you could see these huge, huge tanks actually jutting in front of the wings.
Whatever held them on must have been very, very, slender, but they were definitely not the engines. They were
separate. I’ve never seen anything like it. And this is what’s going over the skies all across America and Canada at the
moment. And whatever they’re spraying on us is of no good to us, because no one in the main media is going to even
touch this. Meanwhile, they’ve got us looking for catastrophes. There was one report in the newspapers today, oh my
God, if an earthquake hits Tokyo, so many thousands will die. I mean, this is all fear mongering while we don’t look up
at the sky. You know. It’s all diversion. It’s just amazing the terror and fear they’re putting out there to keep us
confused, anxious, while they literally poison us from above. You know. Amazing techniques. And meanwhile they
won’t even mention this to the public, what’s happening.
Jackie: Well, Alan, are you wondering why not?
Alan: Oh, it’s a big puzzle.
Jackie: Right.
Alan: Yeah, watch this hand, but don’t watch that hand. And this stuff doesn’t bode well for anyone. I could taste this
stuff this evening, outside. It was so thick. It was a definite. There’s a sweetness to it as well. But it’s definitely a
chemical taste. And this is dumped on us on a daily basis. We don’t have to speculate about it, we can see it happening.
What a wonderful world. But getting back to that Free Trade deal, people should read the book, Millennium by Jacques
Attali, who was the Kissinger for Europe for France, and he was the main advisor to a whole bunch of presidents and
the United Nations, and in his book called Millennium, he goes through the whole takedown process of the borders for
America.
Jackie: That book is out of print. And our listeners should know, they possibly could find it at Abe books, because
that’s where I found my copy, and you know, I can’t find my book, Alan. It’s such a little book. I think it was a red
book. And it’s such a little one. And I probably put it some place where I could find it easily, and I can’t find it. Jacques
Attali. Folks, it’s an awesome, it’s just an awesome read and it’s a small book. And even the Intro to it. Was it Newt
Gingrich who did that? No, who did that?
Alan: There was a Francois Mitterrand, a whole bunch of them, the presidents of France.
Jackie: Okay. The subtitle of that, is Winners and Losers…
Alan: In the New World Order.
Jackie: In the New World Order. And he said that the majority of the people will be like boat people.
Alan: He said the next boat people in the world will be Americans leaving in little boats, looking for work abroad.
That’s right.
Jackie: And those who are winners, he actually said that they will yearn for, you know, the neighbors…
Alan: A home.
Jackie: …in other words, the way things used to be.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back with Alan Watt. Folks, Alan is going to be with us for another ten minutes, and then he’s
going to go to get prepared to do a three-hour marathon. And I’m glad you’re doing that, Alan. When you’re doing a
broadcast like that, when you’re on AM and FM, are you careful about what you say, or do you just use the opportunity
to get it all out?
Alan: Just get it all out, because we don’t have, we can’t dance around anymore. We’ve watched the dancing happen
for so long that we’re almost over the brink here. And there’s no time to be so, you know, wishy-washy about, well,
when you’re presenting facts you don’t have to be wishy-washy. And as long as you have the facts there, and you can
point them what to read by the guys who are helping to do all this, and bringing it about, well, that’s all the proof you
need, you know. These people don’t print stuff just for the fun of it. When the Brzezinskis of this world publish the
books and tell you what they’re going to do to you, you can take them pretty well at their word they’re going to do it.
Jackie: You know, Alan, you know something I noticed about that book, Between Two Ages. He writes it as though
what’s happening is just a matter of course. In other words, it’s just happening. He mentioned I think three times in the
first nine pages, the force behind it. The force that is molding it.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: But somebody could read that and just think that it’s an…
Alan: An evolution.
Jackie: Right, exactly. So, even though he’s telling so much, he’s telling it almost in some ways like he’s concerned
about it.
Alan: Well, yeah, he has to. That’s so that when we see the things actually happening, we’ll never believe that nasty
people could have done it deliberately. That’s the technique that they use. But they publish it. And then other writers
like Bertrand Russell, the Lord Bertrand Russell, who put out a whole stack of books for the Royal Institute of
International Affairs, and the scientific community, talking about a world run by experts and there will be no right of
choice on anything with the individual anymore. It’s just too inefficient.
Jackie: Well, if you can’t think for yourself, you have no choices anyway.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: But when they talk, when they literally use the term bio-chemical manipulation of the brain, that should not be
taken lightly. And when they say biochemical, they’re talking about biologicals and chemicals, right?
Alan: Chemical, and also, psychotronic, Brzezinski, which is the HAARP type EMP pulsations. It’s all of these things.
And that’s for peace on the planet, you see. When you can’t think, there’ll be peace. So, they’ve published all their
agenda, their protocols, you might say, and the public, even though, you know, you tell them to read it, they’d rather
listen to Art Bell and the men on Mars. It’s a sad state of affairs in this great age of confusion.
Jackie: And a sad state of affairs in my mind, is like this stuff that I was telling you tonight that I had been reading. And
when you called, I was literally, literally nauseous. That there are many of our listeners of Sweet Liberty, who fall for
this. Who fall for the Paul Craig Roberts and the Ken, what the heck is his name, whatever, Ron Paul for God’s sake.
Ken Welch. This Ken Welch thing that’s going around. Greg Szymanski, he’s all over the internet. And he’s a writer
also for the American Free Press, which once was The Spotlight, and if anybody, if anybody needed to wonder about
The Spotlight, I found out as you know, because when I first started subscribing to The Spotlight, I started getting all
that political mail from all those phony conservatives. Alan, I was spending thousands of dollars. I owned my business
at the time, and I was getting concerned. I was starting to wake up, you know. And, oh my God, I’d get these letters,
that would say, oh, do you know what they’ve just done in Washington DC? And you better send us money so we can,
you know, send this message to a lot more people, or we’re dead. I mean, basically that’s what they do to you. I
couldn’t open my mail without getting out my checkbook.
Alan: Yes. And the guy who basically spoke for The Spotlight on radio was Tom Valentine. And Tom Valentine in the
1960s, when he was a very high Freemason, way above the 33rd degree, when he was a member of the Stella group,
wrote a book himself, and you can find it. You’ll see I’m telling the truth here, it was called Man’s Monument to Man:
The Great Pyramids. And he goes through all the Masonic folklore that he was completely steeped in, and this is the
high mason, the international brotherhood here, suddenly he’s leading a charge to save America? You know. Who’s
kidding who?
Jackie: But he did say on the air, somebody called in one time and was mentioning, you know the societies, the Masons,
Freemasonry, and Tom Valentine said, oh, well, you know Freemasonry is really dead now. In other words, it’s just a
good old boys club and they’re totally. And even by that statement anybody who knew about, really understood about
Freemasonry was going to know that he was phony.
Alan: Well, they have to cover themselves. But the proof is out there, because he wrote the book himself, Man’s
Monument to Man: The Great Pyramids. And he was a member of the Stella Group, the High Masonic Stella Group
when he wrote it. And he can’t live that down, you know. But I should really get off now, Jackie, and get ready for that
show that’s coming up here. I think they’re calling at quarter to.
Jackie: And you can call any other broadcast a show, but don’t call Sweet Liberty a show, okay, Alan?
Alan: I know.
Jackie: I know. I know I split hairs with words, but.
Alan: I know, we’re so used to it.
Jackie: I’m not.
Alan: Anyway, the ones who want to tune in can do so at about ten.
Jackie: And that was R-O-L-L-Y-E.net. And it’s live streamed from there.
Alan: And it’s repeated during the week too, I believe.
Jackie: Alright. Well, I’m not used to doing this by myself anymore, you know.
Alan: I know.
Jackie: Alright, well, just break a leg, Alan.
Alan: Okey-doke.
Jackie: Okay, bye-bye. Thanks for being here.
Alan: It’s a pleasure. Bye now.
Jackie: Gosh folks, I almost hung up on you. Good night, Alan.
May 3rd, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: So, here’s Alan Watt with us folks. I was sharing the spiritual message. “Can you thank me for trusting
you with this experience, even if I never tell you why.” That’s from James 1, verse 2-4. And I told our listeners that I
share these that are meaningful for me. Maybe it’s for me that I do it. But, you know, it’s like this wrist of mine. And
I’m not a Buddhist. However, I am, to me when something happens, there is a reason. We don’t always know what it
is. And sometimes we find out and sometimes we don’t. Know what I mean?
Alan Watt: Well, the message there is, stop practicing karate.
Jackie: This wasn’t karate, as you well know.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: My precious little Molly swept me off my feet.
Alan: That was it.
Jackie: Well, anyway, thank you for being here with us this evening. And folks, thank you for being here. I’m glad that
you are. Alan, we were talking last night, and I said, uh-oh, we better quit this, because we’re doing a broadcast right
now. Because you were talking about things, and of course, as usual, I have my dozens of questions. And what we
were talking about, you’ve been on a lot of different radio broadcasts now, and from what I understand, you’ve been
pretty much zeroing in on the secret societies, specifically Freemasonry, but all the Secret Societies. And we got talking
about that, and we talked about bringing it up tonight as relevant.
Alan: Yeah, it’s quite interesting to see how politics has gone in the last fifty years or so, where they’re always talking
about divisions between government and religion. And how that’s been pushed to the forefront. Then, when you look
at this division to keep them separate, you find that you have people belonging to a thousand organizations, which are
simply other branches of Freemasonry under many names. And Albert Pike tells you right there in his own book, the
Pope of Freemasonry, Freemasonry is a religion. And you’ll find pretty well all your government officials, right down
to the local level, and the people on the school boards, and even the people who count your votes, are members of these
organizations. And we seem to take it for granted and never inquire, how come? Who are these organizations? Who’s
behind them? Who connects them all together? Where do they get their instructions for? Because they do all belong to
the same head at the top in this pyramid fashion.
Jackie: You know what? There’s some of the initiations. You know their different levels. It’s very Talmudic, Alan.
Alan: Oh, it’s pre-Talmudic.
Jackie: Well, okay, maybe the Talmud is a takeoff on another religion.
Alan: In fact, you see, Albert Pike himself stated that they could have used, rather than use the Old Testament, they
could have used the knowledge of Nimrod and based all their foundations on that. Because, the Old Testament is
simply a tool they used when they updated Freemasonry around the 1700s. So, he said himself, we could have used
Nimrod and based it on Nimrod and the legends of Nimrod.
Jackie: Was Nimrod from Babylon?
Alan: Well, that area, but it’s thousands and thousands of years ago. You know.
Jackie: Well, are you saying then that Talmudism didn’t begin whenever they say that it did?
Alan: Oh, I’m pretty certain it didn’t.
Jackie: In other words, well, first, we’ve got the first five books of the Old Testament, which they refer to as the Torah,
although from some of their websites, they say that the entire Old Testament is. Mostly, I understand that the first five
books of the Old Testament is the Torah, and then the Talmud is based in gnashing at (unintelligible) so to speak from
there.
Alan: Well, no. Not really. There’s two Talmuds. There’s a Babylonian Talmud and then there’s a later Jewish one
that was a sort of an updated version that continued on from there. And it’s nothing to do really with the Old Testament.
You see, all religions, and I don’t care whose religion it is, even if you’re Buddhist, are run by the same people at the
top.
Jackie: I know that. The reason I said that, because when Nicole was working, she said, she asked me one day, what is a
Buddhist? And I said, well, I don’t know that much about Buddhism. She said, people at work keep telling me I’m a
Buddhist because if something happened Nicole would say, well, there’s a reason for this. And that’s why I said that,
Alan.
Alan: Yeah, because I just looked recently at some famous guru who’s coming to New York, who’s a Buddhist. And he
had a big ad in a magazine. And the temple in New York that he’s coming to has a whole bunch of kneeling mats laid
out in the form of the chessboard. There’s your Masonic floor. And then, just near the altar at the front, there’s another.
The actual tile itself is a Masonic tessellated floor. And then the logo they have there is the tetrahedron, the double
tetrahedron. The ‘as above, so below’. The diamond shape. And it’s in blue, different segments. And in the middle,
that’s the blue lodge, you see, and in the middle they’ve got a white and another one, a gold number six, which is also
the letter G for the usual stuff, Geometry, God, up to Gold, and Graft. And it also stands, if you look further back from
it, you’ve got a hidden swastika in there, which is pretty typical. So, these societies are all run by the same people at the
top.
Jackie: You know, Alan, a lot of these symbols, they are so ancient.
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: It doesn’t mean the symbols themselves are evil.
Alan: All these symbols are symbols of the same ancient society behind all societies. They’ve used them for at least
many thousands of years.
Jackie: And I have a sense that there is within their “religion”, there is also truth.
Alan: Oh, yeah. There’s a lot of truth and it’s based on the law of nature. And they always tell us that, so it’s their right
to dominate the lesser. And that basically is the system that we live in. It’s all centered around that very thing. We’re
taught at school to run fast in races, and to get the best marks, and you know, you go on in life as the ones below you get
the dreary jobs. In fact, job comes from Job in the Bible. You get a job at the bottom level. And of course, if you play
with the sun, and you’ve got up higher, you get a salary, you see.
Jackie: Say that again.
Alan: If you go higher and you get a salary.
Jackie: What does that have to do with salary?
Alan: Well, salary is sal. It’s a play. So, the lower guys get the job. And that’s from the Bible and Job of course was
cursed and cursed and cursed and the old story was that God gave him boils and everything, and plagued him, and even
sent Satan down, because at that time Satan worked for God, you’ll notice. And made the life of Job a misery.
Jackie: Are we talking Job, the one?
Alan: Job is job. That’s where job comes from. That’s where a job comes from. And if you’re at the bottom of the
totem pole, because you can’t compete, or whatever, then you get a job. You know.
Jackie: You know something, though. A job, I mean, because of the monetary system, there are people who have jobs,
and who take pride in their work. And they do their work well. Unknowing of all the stuff we’re talking about. I was
thinking, when I was in high school taking typing. You know how certain things, something somebody says, or
something you read, and it just sticks with you forever. And it says that there is no job that is too menial. In other
words, if we had a job as a janitor, and we did a damn good job, and took pride in it, and looked at it, and felt complete
with what we were doing. That’s beyond them.
Alan: It’s beyond them.
Jackie: The integrity and the honor and all of that within the individual, there’s nothing that can take that away from a
person. No one can give it away.
Alan: But the point I’m making is though, that the system that we live in is based on the law of nature, which is not
really a humane law. It’s an occultic religion that runs this whole thing. And from school onwards you keep competing,
competing, competing. Even in racing, you know. I mean, I used to win all the things at sports from javelin to running
and sprinting and all the rest of it. And I can remember one time, I had won everything that there was to win. And they
said, you’ve got one last race, you know, and all the rest of it. And I said, well, I don’t want to run. You know. He
says, Why? I says, I don’t need to. And he sort of looked stunned. This was the teacher, you know.
Jackie: In other words, you weren’t interested in “taking all the prizes”.
Alan: Well, yeah. I mean, I thought, well why are people cheering you on because you’re born with a particular type of
muscle that makes you faster and a bit stronger than other people. In other words, you didn’t work for it. You just were
born like that. And yet, our whole system from that, from competing even in sports and education through everything in
life, is actually going towards the creation of the Great Work, as they call it, which is the New Man. The New Man to
come.
Jackie: What is one to do, Alan?
Alan: You have to understand what it’s all about to start with. Now, you take the…
Jackie: Sports in school in other words?
Alan: Well, don’t think it’s so necessary for you to, you know, be faster, stronger. You see this faster.
Jackie: In other words, don’t feel like a failure, because you’re not on top of the heap.
Alan: Yeah, absolutely.
Jackie: Like the person who does their very best, that’s the greatest thing you can do.
Alan: Well, and it’s supposed to be a fun thing, but it’s not. It’s taken seriously. Because, really, it is serious. It’s a
training for everybody in the world. The whole world has been standardized into the same system. And you’ll find that
they’re going towards a new type of creation. And you’ll see it primarily in sports, because they’re all taking steroids,
even in the Olympics. And we know that they’re turning a blind eye now, because they’re getting the public to accept it,
that through engineering, re-engineering…
Jackie: They look like men.
Alan: Yeah. Through re-engineering we shall create a new type of creature. Well, you take the whole New Age
Philosophy that they’re pushing out there right now, that something wonderful is going to happen, because we’re in a
New Age, and there will be a new type of human, and all this kind of stuff. It’s all tied in together, because it’s a
religion driving the whole system.
Jackie: Here we all are, Alan. Here we all are in it.
Alan: And most people don’t know. They don’t know it’s a system.
Jackie: Yeah, I know that.
Alan: And it’s like Lenin. I mean Lenin who was really trained by the best, the best bankers on the planet, stated that
the public must never realize that human kind can go off in a thousand different directions. They must think that the
system that they’re born into simply evolved and is the natural one to be in. And that’s why people never question the
system. They think it’s all evolved this way naturally. They don’t realize that it’s being guided very carefully with a lot
of planning to where we are and where we’re going.
Jackie: When I was married to Nick Patru, well, I worked. I mean, I worked before I met him. I worked after we were
married, but finally I said, I’m done. I want to stay home and be with my children, and just be a mom and a wife. Of
course, we wound up divorced. But we went to marriage counseling, and this guy sat there, his name was Zacher by the
way. And he saw us separately, because it just wasn’t working out us being together. But he said, I think your husband
is upset because you’re not working. I said, well, I think it’s important for him to know he can do it without me. And
then he looked at me and said, I don’t understand you, a woman with your intelligence, why aren’t you out there
competing in the business world. I said, Dr. Zacher, I don’t have anything to prove. I don’t have anything to prove to
anybody else or myself. I just want to be a mom and a wife. But that’s what he was leading me to. I see what you’re
saying. And women, women who were moms and wives began to feel inferior. One of our neighbors said, we used to
walk in the morning, and that’s what she was. And she saw her son off to school in the morning, she got his breakfast,
she packed her husband’s lunch when he went to work, and she was complaining. And I wanted so much not to be in
the workplace. I wanted so, I would have loved to have been in her place. And I said, Sandy, don’t let them do this to
you. What you’re doing is the most important thing in the world that you can do, is to raise your boy, be there when he
leaves for school. Be there when he comes home. And nurture your husband. I mean, women need nurturing too. I’m
not saying, being you know, some little slave or something, but I heard her feeling inadequate Alan, because all she was
was a wife and a mother.
Alan: And that’s been pushed so strongly through movies and magazines, and then they create a peer pressure. Because
they said many, many years ago, they had to destroy the family unit, in order for the state to be supreme over every
individual.
Jackie: Then she went to work part time, and then it became full time, and they wound up divorced.
Alan: That’s pretty typical.
Jackie: She wound up, you know, meeting somebody else, and the grass was greener, and it was yeah.
Alan: So, it’s a system, and back in even the 1800s they were starting that trend. And it all came from the top,
authorized by chartered agencies in England to begin that push towards the dissolution of the family. I don’t think
people realize that in the late 1800s, they were actually pushing what they called free love. And some of the biggest
authors of the day were pushing that. All connected with Sir Thomas, Professor Huxley in London. He taught at some
of the biggest schools, including, I think, Eton. And he recruited certain authors to write under him. And they were
pushing, including H.G. Wells, he was one of his students. And he ended up pushing free love as early as the 1800s,
late 1800s, and that was intended to, as I say, destroy the family. Because they knew that the earlier they could get
children acting out sexually, the less chance there was of them for mating up for life. So, that was the plan, because the
state cannot be supreme as long as there is any semblance of the family unit. It has to be totally dominant over every
individual. The family, in fact, is the smallest type of remnant of a tribe, and they tend to stand up for each other.
Jackie: So, here we are, all of us, in this system. And I don’t know, maybe there’s a way to be in this world, but not of
this world.
Alan: Well, I think people at least have to start a ripple. You see, we’re up against something that’s thousands of years
old in the continuous ongoing planning stages.
Jackie: Maybe it’s more than thousands.
Alan: Very possibly. It could be millions for all we know. And I think personally it is.
Jackie: I think it’s almost been from the get-go, Alan.
Alan: Well, as I say, from what they give us as the birth of civilization, and that’s their term for their system. So, it’s a
ripple. It’s been on the go so long, that you start off a snowball with a small flake, which you start rolling, and that’s
what you’re up against. And people have to stop using traditional tools to try and figure out what’s happening here.
There’s no point complaining about politics. You don’t, that’s just the show. That’s the middle man, the political
politician. You have to start to demand, since you are putting people, even in local levels in positions of power over
you, and you are going to pay them to do it, then you must demand to know what organizations that they have sworn
allegiance to, and what oaths they’ve taken.
Jackie: You know the most upsetting thing about that today, I’m sorry to say, even here in Tioga County, it’s a huge
area. I was talking to a guy the other day, and he said Tioga County, the square, you know miles, is actually bigger than
the state of Maine. We have about 40,000 people here. They’ve got electronic voting machines now, Alan. Well, we’re
not putting anybody in office any more, but at least, what you’re talking about is those that are running for office, that
they should be questioned.
Alan: Well, those who are already in office. I mean, let’s be honest. We know it’s a con. But they’re supposed to be
public servants. They’re taking money from the public, and they’re supposed to serve the public, and so therefore, their
lives should be an open book when it comes to the organizations which they have sworn allegiance to and sworn oaths
to. And people who are adults take these oaths tremendously seriously. And these oaths override any later oaths they
take to the public. In these organizations loosely called Freemasonry. And, as I say, they’ve got a thousand different
names. The thousand faces of Isis. Isis being the church. That’s the symbol. That’s the esoteric meaning behind Isis.
And the body of Osiris that was scattered are the members of the Masonic people who joined them.
Jackie: When you talk about Isis, I think of Isis, Ra, and El, Israel.
Alan: That’s not what I’m saying Jackie. What I’m saying is it’s, and El is not a Jewish god by the way. It was a
Semitic god, because there was many Semitic gods because there was many Semitic peoples, but it wasn’t a Jewish one.
It didn’t come in until much later. The Al version is the Arabic version. That’s why you have Allah. And it doesn’t
mean what most folk think it means. It’s a hermaphroditic term. It’s a religious term, which is a whole different thing
from standard religions. It’s the religion behind the religions. And as I say, as Isis is not a person and never was a
person, neither was Osiris.
Jackie: In other words, Talmudism is just a cover too, the same as Christianity, it’s a cover.
Alan: Everything which is authorized is a tool. It’s a tool. Every religion which has been authorized is a tool towards
an end, which the followers don’t understand.
Jackie: Towards what?
Alan: Which the followers don’t understand.
Jackie: You said towards something. Towards.
Alan: It’s the Great Work, you know, they call it.
Jackie: Oh, you said an end. Towards an end.
Alan: So, you have all these different people, in all the religions, which, let’s be honest, all authorized religions, number
one is to create a type of order in a society, to make the society obedient to those who rule that particular society. And
that goes for every, every major religion. And even the New Age, even though it doesn’t think, it’s meant, it’s been
taught that it’s free and it’s easy and it’s open. It’s nothing of the kind. Because the New Age really started the roll off
with the French Revolution. Actually with the American Revolution, then the French. They started bringing out all the
symbols then of the real guys behind the show. And then, right up to the present day, the Wiccanism and all the rest of
it, with their simple three degrees at the bottom, it’s all from the same Masonry that runs the whole show.
Jackie: I’ve got a book here on Freemasonry. I don’t remember who wrote it. I’d been looking for it. It’s on my shelf
someplace. Because what I noticed, at least, by this particular author. There were so many break offs, and so many
different, there’s like you said, every single secret society is part of the same thing.
Alan: Same thing. Same head, yeah.
Jackie: But, when I got towards the end of the book, it got into New Age, and I remember making a note, a bracket, and
said, they invented New Age religion. Because you could see it, the way this thing was written.
Alan: It was boasted about in the main publication of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry’s Journal back in the 50s. The
name of the Journal was called The New Age. And they boasted about bringing in the New Age of Aquarius, with all of
the old stuff, you know, the horoscopes, and the tarot cards, and all the symbology and so on. Which again is to make a
form of predestination. When you convince whole peoples, just like religion has done. Christianity did a great job on
the public in the same way. When you can convince lots and lots of people there’s nothing they can do, because it’s all
preordained, then they sit back and let things happen. That’s the purpose of.
Jackie: You know, I had an astrological chart done one time. I think I was, well, we’re going to have to take a break
here in about 60 seconds. But I want to mention this, because this is the confusion for me, Alan. The woman that did
the chart didn’t know me from Adam.
Alan: Yeah, I know these stories. I know exactly what you’re going to say. I know what you’re going to say, yeah.
Jackie: Okay, you tell me when we’re back from the break what I’m going to say. Now, one of the things this person
said is that this isn’t to be used to run your life by. It shows you what, well, we’re running out of seconds here. So,
when we come back, you tell me what I was going to say, okay. Well, folks, we do have to talk about though, Alan,
what we talked about last night, because I think it’s important. We’ll be back, folks.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, Alan, tell me what I was going to say.
Alan: They generate your charts with many years ahead and all the rest of it, and they’ll give you a basic guideline as to
the things you could aspire to. And then they’ll tell you, it’s not the way you necessarily have to go, etc, etc, etc.
Jackie: No. This was what was called a natal chart. It wasn’t a progression. I was about thirty years old. And when I
met her, somebody said, she’s an astrologer. And I said, oh, I’ve always been interested in that, or curious, would you
do a chart on me. The woman knew me, she didn’t know me. But when she came back and was explaining this natal
astrological chart, Alan, she said things that I am, that I was, without knowing me at all, based on this astrological chart.
And one of the things she said, this was interesting to me, because, I have what they call stage fright. I went to a fairly
small high school, and I knew everybody, almost everybody there. Actually, at that time it was from seventh grade up
to the twelfth. And every time I had to get up in front of the class, I took speech class, I got the jitters, I got the
butterflies, I had stage fright. And yet, I was in the lead in the play, I played sports, but standing up and talking to a
group of people made my stomach literally flip. Every single one of them in this small class, I knew them. Well, she
said, I see you talking to large groups of people. And as soon as she even said it, my stomach started to flip, because
when she said it, you know, I think in pictures, I saw myself standing in a podium in front of a group of a bunch of
people. I said, I don’t think so, Sheila. She said, it has nothing to do with what you’re doing now. And I thought about
that later, I was on the air for ten years, Alan. And shortwave for most of that ten years, talking to large groups of
people. She also told me that I felt like a misfit. And I always felt like a misfit, Alan. And she said, but it isn’t you, it’s
them. I said, oh, in other words, I’m not crazy, the rest of the world is. She said, in a sense, you could say that. And
she told me so many things, based on the astrological chart, that nobody could have said to me, that hit me more deeply.
She didn’t tell me how I was going to live my life. And she also told me that I was here to serve, to serve humanity.
Well, that’s about all I’ve been doing all my life when you think about it, Alan. I mean, I was.
Alan: Yeah, I know, but there are true believers, and there are ones who are not.
Jackie: There’s what?
Alan: There’s true believers really, that’s the bottom line.
Jackie: I don’t know what you mean by that.
Alan: There’s people who are true believers in it, and there are the ones who are not. You know. There are those who
are true believers. You know.
Jackie: What are you saying though? I’m a true believer?
Alan: It seems to be, yeah.
Jackie: Well, was that coincidence? Was this woman?
Alan: I can’t say without knowing it all or seeing it all. But personally, the stars, let’s be honest. Who drew up all those
patterns in the sky, because they look nothing like what they’re supposed to look like, you know.
Jackie: You know, in the Old Testament, it says, not to go to, what does it say?
Alan: Astrologers and…
Jackie: Yeah, right. Well, is that a possibility that, I mean these creatures that are in control have been ruling and
running their plans by this as a…
Alan: Well, they use it as a time clock more than anything, but they also use it as parts.
Jackie: What do they know that we don’t know, Alan?
Alan: Well, they know the course of the stars. And by that, I mean, the time. The ancient ones used to con all the
people into creating darkness by knowing when eclipses would happen. They’ve been studying the stars probably for
millions of years.
Jackie: I know, but that’s different than what we’re talking about.
Alan: Not really, in a sense, when you understand what astronomy is as opposed to astrology. And as I say, when you
understand all of the meanings of the characters that they give you in astrology, there’s an esoteric meaning behind
them. And in fact, if you understand the esoteric meaning behind them, then you understand the plan.
Jackie: Well, this is a confusion for me. Because I know that we’ve been told so many lies. And I know that so much
truth has been hidden from us. And I know that much of the truth is hidden amongst the lies. And I think, we need to
be careful and discerning. I’m not a “New Ager” all though maybe you think I am. I don’t know about the New Age
movement. I don’t know about it. But I know that people have said that I was New Age, you know. I like Steven
Halpern’s music, beautiful, well not anymore. It used to be. But, I’m not New Age. Whatever their term of the New
Age is, but there are ancient truths, Alan, that have been kept from us. And there is a lot more to this physical world
than their plan.
Alan: Yeah. But what I’m saying is, I’m trying to deal on with what we can deal with. You see, as opposed to that. I
think if you can deal or start dealing with what’s here, now, the rest of it falls into place.
Jackie: Okay. How do we deal with it?
Alan: As I say, we have to start to demand and to expose those, this system, what’s behind this system, and this religion
that’s behind the system. The policemen and soldiers and everything get, I don’t know if you realize that most of them
get Masonic burials, you know. And they’re also your public servants. You’re paying them.
Jackie: Yeah. It’s a little boys club, isn’t it?
Alan: It’s not just little boys. Girls, there’s little girls’ ones too. So, I don’t know if there’s anything in between. I
wouldn’t be surprised. But they certainly do have many, many branches and organizations, all over the world, in every
country. When the British troops went into India, in the 1700s, they had traveling lodges with them, Masonic lodges,
and they were astounded to find that every little village in India also had one. They thought they didn’t know they had
them there. This was already worldwide. There was a very good movie put out with Michael Cain, and who was it that
did the James Bond movies, the older fellow, Sean Connery. And it was called The Man Who would be King. And
many Masons got upset with it. It was written by Rudyard Kipling in fact, who was a Mason. And the movie showed
two travelers going through the north, north of India, to find this priesthood who dealt with the square and the compass.
And they used some of the Masonic terms there that Masons use amongst themselves. And the Masons were furious
when they made a movie out of it. So, people should get it. It’s worth the see.
Jackie: And you know, another one we were talking about last night.
Alan: Oh, From Hell.
Jackie: From Hell. Well, I did see the movie. Remember I told you. But I didn’t catch it the way that you explained it.
Would you explain it to our listeners?
Alan: Well, it’s based on a true story of Jack the Ripper. But it’s also, it also uses what are now the declassified
documents from Scotland Yard, the main police for London. And they kept it secret for a hundred years that it was Sir
John Gaul, who was the physician to Queen Victoria, who was the ripper. They knew who it was, because he was going
out and killing these women, because they knew that one of the prostitutes had given birth to a son, and actually had
been married, secretly, a Catholic prostitute. And he was sent out to kill them. And he did it with Masonic rituals.
Jackie: Every one that knew her.
Alan: And everywhere they left the bodies was a Masonic name, the Miter Square and so on. And he tried to blame the
Jews by writing it on the wall, but he used the Masonic writing of Jews which was J-U-W-E-S. He said, “The Juwes
will not be blamed for nothing.” Well, that’s a little Masonic coding in there.
Jackie: What does that mean?
Alan: I could go on for about an hour about what it means. But the thing is, the point is, in that movie, you will see part
of a Masonic ritual with the, and these were the upper, upper elite of London, the Sirs and the Lords in this particular
temple. And they reconstruct it. And you’ll see how the candidate eventually gets risen up, when he’s seeking the light
as they call it, and they’re wearing their Masonic regalia. This actually happened, you know. So, it’s worth seeing that
one.
Jackie: It’s worth me seeing it again, because I’ll see it in a whole different light now.
Alan: So they can keep that secret for a hundred years, because all the guys in Scotland Yard were Masons.
Jackie: And this was the surgeon, wasn’t it?
Alan: He was the top surgeon. And he surgically removed organs. And each woman had the penal sign committed to
her. Because, when you take an oath in Masonry, you also take an oath to whatever. Plus, you also take, you’re shown
your signs and passwords for every degree, but you’re also shown a penal sign, which you must use.
Jackie: What’s a penal sign?
Alan: That’s for penalty. For breaking the oath. So, you know, you cut them across the neck. And sometimes the other
one is to rip their stomach and their chest, and throw their entrails over their shoulder. Well, this guy actually did it to
these women. This was a purely Masonic…
Jackie: To let those brothers know that it was Masonic murder.
Alan: That’s right. And that was kept secret by the whole establishment, because all of the establishment at the top are
Masons. And that’s the power of Freemasonry.
Jackie: So, what did, I’m sorry, you piqued my interest and my curiosity. “The Juwes will not be blamed for nothing.”
What did that mean?
Alan: It’s double negatives contained in the whole thing. And if you looked at, it’s the three unworthy craftsmen, that’s
what they mean. There’s the three unworthy craftsmen, and the myth that killed Hiram Abiff. That’s what they claim.
And it’s not a true, see, this is the problem when you explain things. Most people think of people as soon as you
mention names, and they’re not people. Just like the old Egyptian gods weren’t people either. So, when you say, Hiram
Abiff, you say, well, that’s a person. You picture it in your mind. You picture him getting murdered with these
apprentices, who didn’t know the upper passwords to get higher pay, and killed him.
Jackie: And really, it’s all symbolic.
Alan: It’s all high, highly symbolic. Because the three unworthy craftsmen, Jubelo, Jubelum, and some other one. But
basically, it’s really the death to the Knights Templars was so they had to put them down as the unworthy craftsmen,
which is the Church, the State, and the Mob, the people. That’s what they stand for really. The Church, the State, and
the Mob. Because these particular high Masons control all of it. And that’s what it really means. So, the three blows
that were given to Hiram, and they go through these rituals in degrees, these supposed blows, is all to do really, with
their dominance. And actually eventually destruction, of what was the Old Church, the Catholic Church, and then the
State, the old Royal State, except for Britain, because they were given refuge there. And the Mob, the general
population. Each one is despised by the very high degrees.
Jackie: With the Mob. If we so declare ourselves, maybe.
Alan: But this is where it gets down to the individual, because, you see, rather than believe in anything being ordained,
the individual must grab the power that they’re born with, and they must create their destiny, rather than saying, well,
it’s all laid out for you. That’s the difference. When you understand that you can grab that life force within you, and I
don’t care what you think your connection is with whatever deity you follow.
Jackie: Or maybe not grab it, connect with, Alan?
Alan: Well, you can grab it, you can grab it, because it’s your right. You know. You’re born here, and you have, you
have it there if you want to find it, you’ll find it, and you take it and you run with it, because you must create a destiny,
instead of leaving it to others to do it for you. If you leave it to others, then you are a slave, and you’ve never lived, and
that was always the esoteric meaning of let the dead bury their dead in the New Testament. It was used long before
them, that same saying. And people who go through their whole life, never knowing, that’s what they say in High
Masonry. It’s as though they were dead, because truly, they leave nothing behind them. They altered nothing. And
there’s so much each individual can do, if they just take that power back, and stop being slaves to those who know how
to control them.
Jackie: And I know I split hairs with words, but I’m thinking about this spring, after Chuck passed over, looking out the
window, and it had been raining forever, and the grass was so that you could never mow it, and wet. And I was just
saying, father, please give me strength, and give me courage to do this. And suddenly Alan, and that’s why I’m saying,
connecting with maybe, not grabbing it, but maybe we’re saying the same thing. It suddenly occurred to me that
everything I need is within me. And I have the strength, I have the courage. And then I started to think, thank you,
thank you for giving me the strength and the courage to go on, and please help me to find it, and to hold onto it. That
was my asking. And that was my thought about, well, you said, grab, didn’t you. And I said, please, let me find it and
hold on to it. Because I knew it was there. But I didn’t know, you know, when I was asking for it. We’re asking for
something that we already have.
Alan: Usually we are. And it’s insecurity. It’s fear of the system. See, this world lives on fear of poverty, loneliness, ill
health/sickness, all of these things. This system exploits us all on it, in fact. A person who’s successful, and called
successful in this system is one who’s battled their way to the top over everybody else. And this is called, it’s
civilization? It’s the cruelest system you could possibly have. It’s anti-human.
Jackie: When I owned my business this insurance man came in to see me, and he wanted to lay out a plan for me, you
know, so I could invest, leave a whole bunch of money to my children. And, when you’re doing well, because I was
doing well financially, at that time, you could, if you allowed it to, you could allow it to control your, you know, your
thoughts, and get you anxious. What am I going to do to “preserve it”. And while we were talking, I said, Roy, you
know what, I’m not here, and what I’m doing, you know, in my life’s work here, is not to leave my children a lot of
money. I hope and I pray that what I leave them with, is the strength, and the inner knowing, to know that they’re selfsufficient,
in other words. You know, are you following my? That’s what occurred to me at that time. The most
important thing that we can leave our children is the values, and the honor, the respect, the compassion, all that is real in
this world, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, I know. I know, it’s getting connected again, you see. We’re being disconnected, on purpose, over many
years in a carefully laid out agenda to separate everyone else from everyone else. And that’s divide/conquer down to the
lowest common denominator, until there is nothing to stand beside you, and there’s nothing that opposes you, except the
top. That’s all done deliberately. And it was discussed by the big boys in their own books, many years ago.
Jackie: So, okay, so, because we’re running out of our hour, when we were talking last night, and you were saying, I
asked you how the last broadcast you were on, and what you were saying is that we alluded to it earlier, that these
people who are in public places, public positions of power, that people have to ask them and demand that they give them
information on any secret societies.
Alan: Well, societies with secrets. In fact, all societies, because you have to.
Jackie: Anything they took a nose to.
Alan: Yeah, because you’re giving them power to make rules and laws over you.
Jackie: And when you said that to me, the first thought I had, was, well, what good is that going to do. And that’s what I
asked you. I mean, do we really expect, because I remember you saying this one time, a long time ago, go to their
meetings and speak up to ask them, you know, what.
Alan: If enough people do that, if nothing else happens, you’ll start a ripple effect. These people have never been
questioned on the proper things.
Jackie: Well, right. You see, that’s what you said last night, that they sent to me. Because, when you said that a long
time ago, I thought, yeah, right. We’re going to ask a public official, are you a member of the Freemasons, or etc, and
they’re going to be honest with us. And what you explained last night, that I thought it was so important that you
expanded upon is whether they answer or not, ask.
Alan: Because you’ve got to start. Because people have to stop being on the defensive. We’ve got to stop it, you see.
And it’s their right to demand, since you’re giving them a job, and you’re also going to pay them to make laws that will
affect you.
Jackie: What is Pat Buchanan? He’s a Knight of Malta, of the sovereign military order of Malta. And I know this for a
fact. And he has taken an oath to the Church, the Catholic Church.
Alan: Well, it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter, because it’s the same. I don’t care what they think at the bottom, the
gangs at the top all belong to the same capstone. They think they’re on different sides at the bottom, but, yeah, that’s the
con game.
Jackie: Yeah, the Catholic Church. It doesn’t. What about this, the Lodges, the Moose Lodge, are these all lower
extremities?
Alan: Well, a lot of those lodges, the side lodges, are guys who are Masons, and that’s their basically fun place. So they
have their main lodge to go to as well. I’ll be doing a further expose in an upcoming video. And people should check
the website into .com. And check out this one that went up today, this video. It’s called “Peeping Through the Clouds”.
Jackie: And that was the one you did outside?
Alan: Yeah, there’s some wind interference there.
Jackie: You cut some of the wind out of it?
Alan: It’s less long-winded. But it’s the best we could do.
Jackie: Your dry humor cracks me up.
Alan: Well, at least I tell the people at the bottom, it’s free, so don’t complain. You know.
Jackie: Alright, well, for our listeners. Give your website again, and about your books. We’ve got about four minutes
left, so you do that.
Alan: Well, the three books are on the site. There’s also an MP3, the CD.
Jackie: Cutting Through the Matrix.
Alan: Yeah, .com. There’s also a good article, and the books are Cutting Through 1, 2, and 3 in a series. And I’ll be
doing more of them. And there’s also a good connection tonight on that website there, of recently, there’s an inquiry
going on now in Britain, because they were spraying Cadmium over Norwich, the city of Norwich, back in the 60s, and
now they’re saying it causes lots of esophageal and lung cancer. So that’s up on. And that’s from the BBC.
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May 10th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Today is Wednesday, and it is the 10th of May, in the year 2006. I can’t believe May is half over, Alan.
Alan Watt: I know.
Jackie: So, thank you for being here tonight.
Alan: It’s a pleasure, yeah.
Jackie: Yeah, well, I almost missed getting online on time, folks, because I was just having a little chit-chat with Alan. I
get into my idle chatter. I think that would be a very appropriate word, wouldn’t it Alan? Idle chatter.
Alan: That’s it.
Jackie: And Alan said, it’s 9 o’clock, you better call in. I hope you’ve had a nice day. We’ve been having beautiful
weather here folks. I watched, Alan has two new videos on his website at .com. And when we’ve talked in the past,
he’s talked about the sprayings there. Alan, how far from the Canadian border, the Southern Canadian border, how far
north are you?
Alan: Oh, quite a few hundred miles.
Jackie: Yeah, five?
Alan: Oh, yeah, I’d say that. Probably a little bit more.
Jackie: You’re way out. You’re way out. You must be in a stream there where they want that to carry to.
Alan: It is a stream. It comes up through Michigan, the jet stream, and it loops just about where I am, and goes right
back down to the States again.
Jackie: Well, you’ve told me in the past, when you talk about the spraying, and you talk about it often. And they do
spray here, but remember I said, the way you’re getting it, we don’t get it like that. And you described it as mush. That
the sky just gets filled with like Mush. And when I saw the video, and folks, if you haven’t seen it, you certainly,
definitely will want to watch it. The first one Alan did is called Reality Check. If we have any new listeners, and if you
haven’t watched that one, you will want to do it. And then watch the Casual Conversation in the Woods. And then the
last one, I’ve watched that twice now, and when you called earlier this evening, as I told you, I was watching it again,
Alan, Peeping Through the Clouds, folks. And the one I’m discussing right now, they were taking videos of the
spraying, the chemtrails, and it’s just, it’s way more than you said it was.
Alan: Yeah, it’s staggering. Because really, what they’re doing, as I say, around the Michigan area, because it comes up
through Ontario, they use it. They spray heavily there to carry a long distance. And at the top of the loop where I am,
they spray heavily here, because then it takes it down through Eastern Ontario, and down through Buffalo, New York
area. So, they’re really covering a vast area with it. That’s why the spray in these two main particular spots.
Jackie: Spraying where you’re at. It’s pretty much overhead, isn’t it?
Alan: Very often. Sometimes, I’ve noticed, just by the feedback you get from people, if too many people are noticing it,
they’ll start spraying off outside of the cities to the West, and the westerly wind.
Jackie: You’re not near a city.
Alan: No, there’s one to the north there. But people in the cities, I’ve noticed, the clouds will trail over them, and it
means that they’re using the Westerly Wind to bring it over the cities. They’re being very sneaky about it, in other
words.
Jackie: They look real sneaky to me.
Alan: And then, at sunset too, you’ll see a lot of them beginning to spray into the sun, where it’s hard to look.
Jackie: They do. Yes, they do. And that’s a lot of times, when the sun is setting, and if they’re spraying just over the
setting sun, you can see the black underneath the clouds.
Alan: In fact, sometimes, you can see it coming through a cloud, a normal cloud, you’ll see the straight line of the trail,
and it’s darker, because of the metallic particles in it. And we’re not supposed to notice. In fact, we’re not supposed to
even know about this. That’s how audacious they are.
Jackie: Right. I want to make it clear too, that the entire video that we’re discussing is not about the chemtrails. It’s the
beginning of the video, but once again, you do a dialog, as the thoughts roll. And go back into ancient history and bring
it up to today. One of the things that I caught when you said, you know all the laws, you mentioned specifically at one
point, crime prevention. And you said, how can they prevent crime? Because they’ve said themselves that anyone is
capable of committing a crime.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Well, then do you know what it reminded me of? Well, remember Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged. It’s because
they’ve made everything a crime.
Alan: They’ve made everything a crime, and that was how the Soviet Union worked, in fact. When they wanted to
arrest someone, a citizen for political purposes or something.
Jackie: They made what that person did a crime?
Alan: Well, no, what they could do is just watch them throughout the day, because you’d break so many crimes, just
going to work, that they could pick you up on anything. And if they didn’t want you, they’d let you go, you see. And
that’s why they’ve got so many laws on the books.
Jackie: Another thing that you said that really hit home or struck me, when you talked about the fact that they controlled
the legal system, and the illegal system.
Alan: That’s right, above and below.
Jackie: They control the criminal element too. The mafia.
Alan: All sides of everything. That’s how total the system is. And they use both of them when, you see, without, it’s
true enough, to govern in a totalitarian way, you can’t have one without the other. They need to create the crime, to
create the police force, to watch the people on the prelude of stopping crime. So, they need each other, you see. And
then to satisfy the citizens sometimes, they’ll make a strong, say, drug raid, and show the public what they’re doing.
But they don’t tell you about all the legal stuff that’s shooting through in the meantime, while this PR stuff is going on.
So, they control both sides of it.
Jackie: Well, they certainly are worth watching, all of them, actually, and every time you listen. And you know, I was
thinking that tonight. Because I actually, this last time through, and I’m only about, I don’t know, maybe twelve,
fourteen minutes into it, again. But as I was listening, the questions keep coming to my mind. And I thought tonight, if
I had written my questions down, we’d need three hours, Alan. And I thought, you know, we have to, you and I,
besides on air conversations, we have to have had hundreds of hours of conversation. And there are still times that
you’ll say something that will explode questions in my mind that lead from one thing to another to another. And you
know, one of the questions I did write down, this was later on, and the thing where you said it, and where you talked
about, and maybe you don’t want to do what you did on the things, but just in this one instance, the video, where you
talked about the aristocracy or the elite, how they see the priesthood. And you said, they refer to themselves as the
priesthood, right? And they wanted to perfect humanity, because “God didn’t do a good enough job.”
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Well, okay, the word God, Alan. I wonder if it’s on purpose that the word God backwards spells dog.
Alan: Oh, that’s right. That’s what the dog priests used to be called. The god is dog, dog priest. That’s why they wear
dog collars. They call them dog collars.
Jackie: So, when they say they don’t believe that God finished it, who are they talking about?
Alan: What they’re talking about really is that, in their own inner religion, this thing called Progress, that’s part of their
plan, it’s called Progress. And what they claim, it’s because they are rebels, and they do everything through Revolution.
Now, most revolutions, the public are generally unaware of, like the sexual revolution, the pop and rock revolutions, the
feminist revolutions. Most of them are bloodless, or fairly so. In other words, they’re constantly changing society and
upgrading it towards a destination, a pre-planned destination, and it’s to really perfect that which they claim was left
imperfect, which is basically the population of the planet.
Jackie: But left imperfect by what and who?
Alan: Well, they talk about the one they rebelled against.
Jackie: Would that be Creator?
Alan: It’s something to do with that. They’re never specific, but you always get the hints. I’m pretty certain that all
holy books that mention this are put out by them from the beginning. And they give us little clues, but they warp it a
little bit, and make us serve them, you know, in the process. But there’s always the hints of somehow being imprisoned
here. And this is their world, therefore, through their own intellect, they will break out of this prison, through science.
And they wrote more about this in the 1500s and the 1700s.
Jackie: They’re imprisoned here.
Alan: Basically.
Jackie: Is that what they say, Alan?
Alan: Yeah. And that’s why they gave us a story of a fall of a deity and an army, you know, behind the deity.
Jackie: Lucifer here.
Alan: That’s pretty well it.
Jackie: Lucifer, how you have fallen, da, da, da, da, da.
Alan: And they say one-third fell with him. You know, this army.
Jackie: One third of the, what, spiritual beings?
Alan: Yeah. They claim about two million.
Jackie: Oh, you actually have numbers. Well, that’s like, that’s like, you know the Talmud claims to know the exact
time and date God created the universe.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Because I don’t know all of their codes and etc. This is why I was asking you this. When they say, well, they’re
perfecting what God left unfinished.
Alan: Imperfect. Imperfect is the word.
Jackie: Imperfect. Yes. Are they referring to Lucifer?
Alan: They’re referring to the people that were basically here. The natural people.
Jackie: But who do they think created the natural people?
Alan: Oh, they still believe there’s a creator.
Jackie: They what?
Alan: They still believe that there’s a creator there, but they rebelled against the same one.
Jackie: In other words, they know that Lucifer is not creator but Lucifer is their god.
Alan: But they believe that Lucifer, and also themselves, and everyone who takes on the high secret societies or goes
into them, believes that they themselves can attain that same power of godhood through pure will and intellect. They
can achieve godhood, and be the equivalent of that, you see. And so, what they always claimed is that they could break
out of the prison through science, through the use of science. And what they’ve been doing all this time is using the
populations to work through their sciences for them.
Jackie: When they break through, where do they think they’re going?
Alan: Oh, probably forever, just going through the planets, all over the place, and sucking them dry no doubt, and you
know, carrying on. There was a poem written back in the 1920s, I think, and it was along those lines, that eventually
they would leave the planet, and leave the earth spinning like a burned-out cinder, in its wake, as they went on to the
next one and then the next one and the next one. Under the guise of loving everything in nature and so on – it’s
nonsense – all these laws are passed to put us in a prison. And they can reproduce anything, right now, through
cryogenics and genetic manipulation. They can reproduce anything on this planet. And they’ve even had programs on
public broadcasting services about it. They’ve shown us these huge arks, where they have all the DNA of every living
creature, plant and animal and insect. And they admitted that they can bring them out of cryogenics, after many years,
and even use different hosts as the carriers to bring them to term. So, these guys don’t give a damn about nature. It’s
just to put us in a box that all these laws are passed, you know.
Jackie: Yeah, well, the prison that they have made besides the fact that somehow they just own people’s minds. But of
course, it is said that the mind is the gateway to the soul. Because they’re imprisoning souls, aren’t they Alan?
Alan: They imprison souls and they also use our wrong choices for their own benefit.
Jackie: Our wrong choices. Good way to put it.
Alan: Because we tend to do their wars for them. We battle for them down through the ages. We actually kill and die to
bring around an agenda. And once their agenda is over, then we will be pretty well wiped out. Because we only have a
function to these people, and nothing else. That’s all we are, is a function. And the other thing is too, you see, if we
cannot master ourselves individually, then these people will master us for us. And that’s the other key to it. Because
we’re so willing to go off and slaughter at the drop of a hat. We don’t really even need a good reason to do it. And
young men, of course, full of hormones and tribal instincts have been used forever for this purpose. They never recruit
guys, you’ll notice, forty and up, because they’re too wise. But when you’re eighteen, you’re invincible.
Jackie: Today they’re not though, Alan. And they are recruiting. You know, I have read that they have actually talked
about upping the drafting age to thirty-eight.
Alan: They made exceptions for undertakers up to fifty-nine. But for young guys who go off and do this stuff, all you
need is bodies, really. You need bodies. And you need bodies that don’t think they’ll ever die. And men and women at
eighteen can’t imagine death. It’s always going to be, it doesn’t happen in the movies. The good guys always win.
And the bad guys can never shoot straight. And yet, this game has been played down through the ages forever. They
used to have dramas in the British Empire, traveling shows where these plays were written about wars, either in Africa
or somewhere, anywhere where the empire was striking out. And they’d put these shows on, and they’d give cut rates
for teenagers, teenage men to get in. And it was all noble and it was all hero stuff, and the good guys always won, and
he always got his fair lady. And this was the kind of stuff they fed them for centuries. And they still do today. You take
a young person at the bottom strata of society that has almost no dignity at all. He’s ignored by everyone. No power of
any kind. Very little chance of getting ahead in life, as they call it. And you put a uniform on him, and suddenly your
own country treats you as though you’re a brand new being.
Jackie: Yeah, right. The uniform.
Alan: You see, this has been used for thousands of years, this same technique. And these are sciences. They understand
the science of the mind. And they know the sciences of the mind. And they know how it changes the older you get. So,
they can hit you at any age group, according to whatever they want to hit you with, to make you respond. And even
advertising companies know these techniques very well, how to hit even children at six years old or five, to nag their
parents to do something. Or teenagers to join up, you know. So, this is instant status. And instant respect. And all you
have to do is go wherever you’re told to go and kill people. And they always dehumanize the enemy of course. And
now, the same technique’s to be used.
Jackie: Dehumanize the enemy. Yeah. It’s somebody that really in fact is not an enemy.
Alan: Now you take the doublethink of all this. See, logic is like mathematics. Two and two must always add up to the
same number. Now, here you have a society where if you say any ethnic slur you end up with a fine or prison or
something, because you’ve got to get cooperation in society, because people have to get along. But you put them in a
uniform, and you can get people from all ethnic groups in that one army, and then tell them to hate this other group over
there. And it’s okay to go off and kill them. See, so something is wrong here. It’s doublethink. It’s Orwellian
doublethink. And if you kill someone in your own society, you end up on a murder charge. But if you go over and
become a sniper and assassinate people at long range, you get a medal for it. What’s wrong with this picture here?
How come we’re so easily manipulated? Well, the reason is, it’s through indoctrinative techniques, and the perfect
understanding of our minds and the young teenagers. This is ancient science that’s been used for thousands of years on
how to get young people and train them to go off and kill, and still teach them it’s alright to do so. And yet we like to
call ourselves progressive. We’re progressing in society to this fantastic utopia, which they claim exists or will exist.
And every century that we go on, we slaughter more and more millions than the previous one. And they call this
progress. There’s something wrong here.
Jackie: Well, of course there’s something wrong. But not for them. It’s the perfect plan for them. There’s something
wrong to somebody who’s sane.
Alan: And yet, at the same time, they use a flaw in humanity, where we have either been gulled into believing the
system is real and genuine, with all of its doublespeak and doublethink, or else we have an inherent problem here, where
individually, we mustn’t let ourselves be conquered by these people who know how to use ourselves, our age, the tribal
instincts to go off and slaughter other people. Because we never benefit from it. The public never. In any country,
whether it’s conquered or the winners, or whatever, you never win. Only a small group win in this whole strategy here.
It’s like Henry Kissinger said in the Last Days. The book written by Woodward and Bernstein about the Vietnam War.
When Kissinger was asked about the troops that were still there, and he says, what about them. He says, the troops are
just dumb, stupid animals to be used for foreign policy. Now, here is the monster telling you the truth.
Jackie: Alan, where did he, was that actually in an article? Were they quoting him?
Alan: It was in a book.
Jackie: Okay, in a book. Okay, they said that this is what he said.
Alan: He was talking to a bunch of reporters after the main interview, and they asked him, that question, and that was
his reply. And, now, he was telling the truth, because, young people who are drilled, they’re drilled. These are all
mining terminologies they use as well. It’s Masonic, because the whole military system is Masonic, and you do square
bashing on the square, and all that kind of stuff. And you’re uniform. You’re one form. You stop being individuals,
and you become one. You act as one, and you do what you’re told. And so, it’s all Masonic, you see. And their
symbols and rituals are actually Masonic. And, they train you not to be an individual anymore. They give you a whole
new set of values and tell you to obey instantly, without thinking. Now that’s what all Masons are told, that when a
superior gives you a command as a Mason, you will obey the order, without question, and put all moral judgments to the
side. You will simply carry it out. All these things are Masonic. And people should question themselves why every
army on the planet has the same types of uniform, the same types of drilling on the square, and marching. And you go
back to the ancient steles of Egypt and Sumer even, and you look at the pharaohs there. In any of the statues, you’ll
always see the left foot forward, because that’s the beginning of the journey, by the left quick march.
Jackie: That’s a Masonic thing?
Alan: Yeah. By the left quick march. This has been done for thousands of years.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. And that’s even when counting cadence. Your left, your left, your left, right, left.
Alan: That’s right. So this is an ancient science, by ancient priesthoods that are understood and are right up to date, and
we’re still doing them yet, because they’ll never let go of science which works, and they understand this perfectly. And
they have the same type of…
Jackie: Do they actually think there’s some kind of a power?
Alan: It’s a symbol. It’s a symbol of their dominance. If you go to Luxor and you look at the temple, or the pillars of
Isis and Osiris, Isis is the mother. And it’s not a person, it’s their church. Collectively, it’s their church. And they are
Osiris, the body of the church. And then, the inscription for Isis says, I am Isis, I came from a perfect wonderful egg,
nothing that exists exists without me.
Jackie: She comes from a what?
Alan: A beautiful egg.
Jackie: Egg, okay, and that. Thank you for, that’s where it comes from, because, the Easter, Ishtar is Isis, right?
Another name for Isis?
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And I remember reading that that’s why we have Easter eggs. Because it really, Easter, the time when Easter is
is the celebration of what, the creation of Ishtar hatching out of her egg.
Alan: What it means is that all things within the world, the physical system, come out of the mother. In other words,
this high, high, high occultic church. That’s what it means. They are the body. Their members are the body. They are
Osiris. They are the body collectively of the church which is a mother. It’s allegories for their system. So, Isis is
everything in their system, which is basically everything. And so, everything in their system which is orderly, and
marching is orderly, you see, starts off with Isis by the left quick march. Because the female is left. She is called sinister
in knighthood.
Jackie: She’s called what?
Alan: Sinister.
Jackie: The woman is sinister?
Alan: Yeah. And knights, you’ll find Dexter is the right. And Sinister is the left. And that’s why, because they don’t
like women, you see; the females are sinister.
Jackie: But you know, you got talking one time like you didn’t like women too well either. You were saying that
women were the cause of all the problems in this world.
Alan: No. What I’ve said is that they understand that through Eve…
Jackie: Okay, whoa, whoa, you know what. Let’s pick this up. I don’t want you to get started and then we’re going to
get cut off. We’re going to be taking a break here. Well, right now, and folks, so, remember what we’re on here, Alan.
Okay. And we’ll be back with you folks in just about two minutes. We’ll be back, with Alan Watt and Jackie Patru.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, Alan. We were talking about Ishtar, and then I mentioned that you had made at one time on the air, you
sounded like one of them. Not really, but that women were a source of the problems in this world.
Alan: No. They’re not a source. They’re understood. And because they’re understood, the higher priesthood have
always said that they will bring fruition of their plan through the female. And that’s what the whole allegory of Eve is
all about. It’s the nature of the woman. Now, Caesar himself said that to take over a country you put fear into the
people. The women complain and want security, and then you offer them security, food, etc, and they’ll come to you.
Now, Stalin did the same thing. So did Lenin.
Jackie: So, do you see that that’s true in your own?
Alan: Oh, yeah. It’s a natural thing. I watch it on the surveys on television. Even when there’s things that government
actually wants done, they’ll have these interviews on the street type of thing, and they’ll ask the women what they want.
And the women always say there should be a law about this, or there should be a law about that, or whatever. And it’s
always what the government wants. So, in other words, women naturally look for security, you see, and Hitler did the
same thing. He said, all our propaganda must be aimed at the woman, who wants food for herself and her family, peace,
and security. And he says, then will follow the children. And then must follow the man. And he was basically quoting
Caesar. Because it’s an ancient understood mechanism. And you’ll notice today. Well, even after 9/11 when they had
the surveys on the street, the usual thing, would you give up your freedom for security. And the polls that came out here
in Canada, reflecting the States, actually they were from the States, showed about 88 or 90% of women agreed,
according to them, that they would give up freedom for security. So, these were techniques which are understood.
They know how to manipulate the male, because of his nature. They know how to manipulate the female, because of
hers. And they also know how to manipulate the teenagers of both sexes, right down to the pre-puberty children. It’s an
art in every section. So, this is understood.
Jackie: I’ve got a report. I read this several years ago. And it was very frightening. It was a report on brain research.
And they were talking very technically about the synapses and how at first, from birth, until about seven years old, they
said that the synapses, it’s like there’s explosions going on in the child’s brain. And then, it’s maybe seven or age nine.
I think it’s well, between there, that it slows down to more of a normal pace. Of course, there’s always constant
learning as we’re growing, but think about those pathways that are being made in those babies’ brains, Alan. They
know exactly what they’re doing.
Alan: It’s a road well traveled, you might say. That’s what the pathways are. But, if you take these sciences that were
understood in the days of the ancient Greeks and the Egyptians before them, Plato talked about this coming time, even
in his writings in the Republic. Where he talked about his, the creation of the perfect republic, with a dominant minority
at top, with a Guardian Class, and then the strata of bureaucracy, and then the military class. And he said, towards the
end, that they would bring in the women, into the military, who will fight alongside the men. Now that’s two thousand,
three hundred-odd years ago.
Jackie: And here in the US, there have already been, I believe, Congressional debates on, you know, when they’re
talking about re-instituting the draft, with the women. And there was, there was a bill that didn’t get passed here, but
the bill was if it had been passed, any young child who goes to get a drivers license, has to sign up for the draft at the
same time or they don’t get a driver’s license. And it said, men and women. And then, when a new version of it came
out, it just said, I think it mentioned the males. So, there must have been a heck of an uproar at that time, but you can
see it coming, can’t you?
Alan: It’s coming. It’s planned. And they must have a military class, where they’ll inbreed the male and the female for
a period of time, because this isn’t forever, to make sure they breed the offspring in a military environment, to take care
of the people. This is all, again, old science.
Jackie: And getting back to the crime thing. It’s a crime to drive without a state driver’s license. And yet, to use that
was a tool to get young people to register for the draft.
Alan: And that’s what they all want, is a driving license. They want a car. They want to drive.
Jackie: The new bill had a thing at the bottom of it, and I don’t know if that passed, Alan, but there was a box that you
could check the bottom, that said, do you want to use this as, you know, your application as registration of the draft, yes
or no. And it said that the draft, you have to register at such and such an age anyway, because it is the law. It isn’t the
law. It isn’t the law, because here in the US, the draft registration “law”, I forget what title, it may be title 52. It is not
positive law. Which means that it is not law. Maybe if you live in Washington D.C. or the territories, you would have
to, but it is not actual law. I wanted to say this as we’re talking, because the thoughts are in my mind. For any of our
new listeners, if you have children, or you know people with children, have them not register for the draft. Have them
not register. It is not a law. I’ve got the thing that they mail out to young people, and they do say, well, you have to do
it. And one of the frequently asked questions is, what happens if I don’t register? It says, you may be fined, you know,
so much money. You may be. That’s because it isn’t a law. It doesn’t say you shall be. And then it says, you will not
be able to get government grants if you don’t register for the draft. Well, to hell with government grants. Anybody
that’s listening to this, right now, if anybody you know, in fact, a friend’s son was helping me here today. He’s going to
turn sixteen very shortly. And I talked to him seriously about it, for that reason, and he said, well, I can’t. I’m the last
of my family line. I said, then tell all your friends, Michael. Tell all of your friends. Because, I mean, you know, we’re
living under commercial law, and when that young person signs that draft thing they are held to what they are told is a
contract. And yet, you have to be 21 years old to sign a contract. Don’t you find that interesting, Alan?
Alan: Well, everything is conology, con being the priests. It’s, that’s the world we live in. It’s coercion by threat. And
then, ultimately the use of force to back it up. And that’s how the herd are managed, and always have been, really. But
I think it’s a sad, sad, thing you know, when you look at what they’ve done. They’ve done their best through the unisex
movement that began in the sixties, that the same clothing and stuff, all this kind of thing, that we’re all the same. And
then of course, the American psychological association did their politically correct agenda, and said, well, girls only
play with dolls because they’re taught to do it, you see. And they’re really the same as guys. And this is all a big, big
preplanned thing done back in the early 1900s through experiments, through special schools, like Bertrand Russell’s,
when they planned to destroy the family, destroy marriage, and all other things that they’d used actually up until then,
for their own benefit, for a post-industrial society. And I think it was Carl Gustav Jung, the psychiatrist, who was way
beyond Freud. He actually visited America, in the late ’40s, the early 50s, and he said. He said when the female loses
her Eros, you know, her natural femininity, when the female loses her Eros, and begins to emulate males, then that
society will plummet to the ground. And he said America was leading the charge there.
Jackie: They talked about that in the New Order of the Barbarians. In the shadow government section, if you haven’t
read it, New Order of the Barbarians, and they said the exact thing that you’re talking about, and how they were going to
take that, did you call it Eros from a woman. They were going to get rid of, baby dolls and go to different things. Okay,
in the 60s, out came the Barbies.
Alan: Well, Barbie is for Barbarian.
Jackie: Oh, yeah. Well, thank you. The whole thing, is she’s a grown-up buxom, you know with big buns doll. And
she’s got a boyfriend. Okay, plus all of her, whatever. The point is, little girls, this is what I wanted to ask you, do you
think the maternal instinct is a natural thing and can be taken out of them? I think so too. You know why? Because you
see it today.
Alan: It’s been written about long ago. Carroll Quigley wrote about it in Tragedy and Hope. He said that after World
War II into the early 50s, he said. Now, he was a professor who was an advisor to various consulates for the US. A
bigwig. A guy who chose Rhodes Scholars for World Government to get sent to Britain. He chose Bill Clinton to go
over. When they say something, you listen to their words carefully, because they don’t waste words.
Jackie: They say what they mean, and they mean what they say.
Alan: And a thing, an extraordinary thing, extraordinary thing happened to women, young women. He said, they
suddenly, suddenly, began to mature physically, sexually, far quicker than before. In other words he’s telling you that
something extraordinary had been introduced into society, and it was through the inoculations, etc. And because of that,
they would race ahead of the young males. But it would also make them more aggressive as well, and that’s what we
see.
Jackie: When I go back, you know, when I was a little girl, we had baby dolls. But we didn’t have a whole bunch of
them. I had, I remember, I think I was in the fourth grade and that was all I wanted for Christmas. It was a newborn
baby doll. And I got that doll for Christmas. And for the next Christmas, I got a buggy for her and grandma made
clothes for her, and that was my baby. And you know, when my girls were little, I wanted them to play with dolls. And
I got them baby dolls. And I’d go in their rooms to straighten up and whatever, and I’d find their dolls laying on the
floor, you know, all tumbled. And I’d pick those dolls up, and I’d wrap them up in their little blanket, and put them in
their little cradle. I said, Mom, I feel like not a fool, but it’s so natural to do that. You know. She said, it’s just your
maternal instinct, honey. See, Jodie was my firstborn, and out came Barbie doll. And I got her Barbie dolls, because I
had no clue, Alan. No wonder she didn’t want to play with baby dolls. And I noticed that this happened to all the little
girls. I wanted a dollhouse when I was little. I had a friend that had a dollhouse, and I would play for hours. And that
was one of the first things, when Jodie was old enough, she wasn’t interested in a dollhouse. You know. I got her a
little clotheslines and clothespins and little tea sets. She played with those things, because I played with them with her.
As they got older, they just weren’t interested. And it is not just my two girls. It’s women today, how they, even when
they’re there with their children, and I see it with my neighbors, with my friends here, their children are almost like a
nuisance to them.
Alan: Well, here’s the key to it, you see. They knew, they knew, and this is true. Ask anybody who’s been in a war.
Who does a soldier cry out for when he’s dying? It’s not his dad.
Jackie: Mama.
Alan: And you see, the motherly instinct is a counter to the male, the young male, who’s more aggressive. And they
had to do their best to destroy that, because history, primarily, was taught from mother to child. And John Dewey
mentioned it, that they’d have to eliminate this contact between the mother and the child to get racial harmony
throughout the world, because most history is taught through. See, the children don’t really bond with the father until
they’re sometimes quite high up in the teens. And it’s because the father’s instinct is different from the mother’s.
Jackie: Well, in the past too, it used to be this way, the mom was home taking care of the children, the dad was out
earning the basics.
Alan: But it’s also easier for the child to talk to the mother. It’s far easier for communication-wise.
Jackie: Because of her receptivity.
Alan: A male tends not to bond so quickly, until they’re actually adult. That’s when the male kicks in. So, they
understand this, and they had to destroy that. And now, of course, it was interesting, a recent survey that was done to do
with universal child care that they’ve pushed in Canada, and they’ve found that the vast majority of women were
demanding as their right that the state basically pay for mandatory daycare and all the rest of it. So, there you go, you’re
right. That bond has been severed. And that was intentional. And the people who go along with it have no idea of the
big sciences that are motivating them.
Jackie: You know, you might want to link the New Order of Barbarians at your website. Because, I’m telling you Alan,
they said it all. They even told this Dr. Richard Day, they even told how they would do it. When I started reading the
first transcript, I got about, I think a transcript of the first half of the first of three tapes, that that Dr. Denigan did, I kept
gasping as I was reading it. Because you could see it. You could see everything that he was talking about, back in
whatever, 1960 something, today, you could see it all. And they did it. Even to the point of people stopping buying
Made in America. Oh, well, we’re going to start making chintzy cars, little things like, you know, the door handle will
fall off, and people will get so fed up with it, they’ll start buying foreign cars.
Alan: But you see, the thing is too, that I’ve never fooled myself on either. You see, I’ve never looked upon this system
as being mine, and the one that I’m born into as being mine. I’ve always known that we had no say in this system. The
system is theirs. All they are doing is upgrading their system for a new era, for the next phase of the plan.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, see, you came in with some very, you came in with knowing. I came in with some knowing, not
the same kind you did, but because, as I’ve told you, that’s why I believe I can relate to our listeners. I didn’t see this
world, and this life that we live as a system, Alan. I didn’t even see it as a “system”. It was just life, you know.
Alan: That’s what I’m saying. In all mammals, they look towards the parent for danger signals of any other creatures
and so on. If the parent doesn’t warn them, that mammal will go up quite happily to its worst enemy and be eaten.
Now, if your parents have been brainwashed, and most of them were, they don’t know to pass it on to the child and say,
look, I know the world appears this way, but here’s the real story. So, you see the child grows up clueless, and it’s like
Lenin said. You know, there’s a thousand paths that a society could take. But the public mustn’t know this. They must
think the one that we’re born into, every generation is born into, is a natural development. So, this has always been
perfectly well understood. And of course, religion had a big, big role to play, down through the years, in keeping this
order together, for this particular elite.
Jackie: Well, you know the sad thing is, I, from things that I’ve learned in these past twelve, thirteen years, in
documents and writings and things that I have, there was a time in this country, when people were “politically involved”
and they actually believed they had a say in the government, Alan. And I saw that, you see, I saw that as I was reading
those, what a shame it is today, that nobody is involved. And yet, those people then, that were so involved contacting
Congressmen, and interacting and da, da, da, da, da. They believed in America, as I did, up until not too many years
ago. And all of the activities that they were involved in, they were supposed to be involved in it. Because there has to
be opposition to move the plan forward. And the whole pathetic thing is, that America itself, or not America, the US,
was without a doubt, was founded to do exactly what it is today. And do you know what I saw in, I’ve got a big satellite
dish and I was going through the satellite guide. Do you know, they have a movie out called, listen to this, Team
America: World Police. It’s for children. I should watch it. I really should watch it, just to see. You know, you watch
those kinds of movies, because you want to see what they’re doing. And I look at it and I say, oh my God, I just want
nothing to do with it, but we really should watch movies like that, shouldn’t we?
Alan: Yeah, they do indoctrinate us through movies into the possibility that this will come. Once you accept the
possibility through fiction, you’re more apt to accept it when it comes into reality.
Jackie: That Team America: World Police. That’s here today, Alan. The US is the World Police today.
Alan: That’s right. Well, the head of NATO in 1956, he was a Frenchman, and he put a book out on this very topic. He
said, America has taken over as the world police, but they will have a couple of minor wars then fail towards the end.
Then, the universal society will kick in. And there will be a universal police force. So, they understood this. Nothing
happens in this system without their go-ahead, basically, their planning. But through predictive programming, we are
gradually shaped, our minds are shaped towards what’s to come next and next and next.
Jackie: Do you hear, talking about predictive programming, did you hear about the docudrama, I think that NBC did, it
was about the bird flu. Did you hear about it?
Alan: We had one here in Canada about a month or six weeks ago.
Jackie: I wonder if it was the same one. Well, I don’t get the networks, but Jeff said he watched about the first five
minutes of it downstate there, and he said, he couldn’t watch it. I said, you should have watched it. I would like
somebody, if somebody taped it, I’d love to have a tape of it. You know what he said in the first five minutes at the
very beginning of the movie. There was an Arab person at an airport with a suitcase in his hand. And then the plague
hit. And evidently, this thing was billed by the network as, this is ahead of the headlines. So, whatever they did in this
production, American people, people who were watching it, led them to believe that there is going to be a plague, and
there are going to be millions dying, and they’re probably pushing the vaccines like a son of a gun.
Alan: They’re also conditioning the public on how to respond if they ever say it’s hit through stay at home, do what
you’re told.
Jackie: Did you see it, or did you hear about it?
Alan: Yeah, yeah. They had a docu-drama. They used real people from the UN with the actors as well, to mix it all
together, to try and get this home to us and train us. Just like they trained the British public before World War II.
Jackie: Well, at the beginning of the movie, the hatred they are promulgating against Arabic people, the Muslims. There
at the very beginning of the movie, to imprint into everybody’s brain, because probably somewhere in this movie they
don’t know how the thing started, the plague. But in everybody’s mind, they knew, because they saw that Arab at the
airport. The Arab terrorist. Geez.
Alan: I know. It’s pathetic what they throw in our faces. But it’s also pathetic how the public swallow it,
subconsciously. That’s the scary part, because they are conditioned.
Jackie: The real pathetic part to me, because I’m always relating back to myself, when I may have at one time watched
something like that and believed it, if I hadn’t begun to learn, what I began to learn. It’s like I told you Alan, during the
“six day war”, I looked at the newspaper laying on the table, I saw the headlines, “It was over. Israel Won.” And I said,
isn’t that cool. That little tiny country. But what’s really pathetic to me are people who are told and don’t hear.
Alan: Well, you see, they do, and this is, Brzezinski was quite right. They’ve trained the public that you don’t have to
reason things out for yourself. The media is there to do it for you. It’s there to reason for you and give you your
conclusions.
Jackie: We have about thirty seconds. So, do a commercial for…
Alan: Well, people want to see the website. You should look into .com. There’s lots of downloadable stuff there for
free.
Jackie: Folks, if you haven’t, go over to the website. Good Night, Alan.
Alan: Good Night.
May 17th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Alan, thanks for being here tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: And so, before I forget this, I wanted to bring this up. I think you got the same email I did from one of our
listeners. The email, his name was Awake Now. He said he’s been listening to the broadcasts and his eyes are really
open. And he sent, he sent a link. He put in his search engine, Masonic CHIP program, and I clinked on the link, and I
brought up one of the pages. The first one there was the Pennsylvania Masonic Youth program or something, and it was
the chip program. And that is the child’s identification program, Alan, where they use biometrics, they use fingerprints,
and etc, etc. And it sounds so good. But the thing that was interesting to me, is several years ago, and I’m thinking it’s
at least four or five years ago now, the state legislature came out with the program. It was passed by the legislature, and
it was called the chip program. And it was the children’s health insurance program for Pennsylvania. And it was for the
children whose parents couldn’t afford health insurance. No child will be left behind, you know. So, then now, we
have the Masonic, Pennsylvania Masonic CHIP Program. And I sent it over to Darren and asked him to post it, well, he
did, beneath one that he had posted several months ago. And it was from Nebraska. And they’re promoting, of course,
all this. But what’s interesting is they started out here in Pennsylvania, CHIP, was the Children’s Health Insurance
Program. Now, we have the Masonic CHIP Program, which is the Child Identification Program, and next it will be the
real chip, won’t it, Alan?
Alan: It’s a chip off the old block.
Jackie: A chip off the old block, yeah. And I wanted to thank our listener, who sent that over, and it’s just very, very
telling, just how fast they move. And how insidiously, how insidiously. And when I wrote back, I pointed out, you
know, that the ostensible reason, makes too naive in a person who isn’t aware. It sounds so good. It’s like oh, my
goodness. You know, we’ll get this video, and we’ll get the fingerprints and the hair, whatever, the DNA, I guess from
the hair, right, Alan?
Alan: Yeah. They get the cheek as well. Inside their cheek. They take a swab test.
Jackie: For the DNA?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Well, in this little kit, I think it’s a hair sample, or at least the one in Kansas. I don’t know. But it’s the
underhanded and devious way that they worked in everything that the elite, everything that is done. Isn’t it?
Alan: Oh, yeah. I know. And it’s always for a bit of pretense. A good cause.
Jackie: Well, that’s the point. It makes you feel so safe, like chipping your, your beloved pets. And if they get lost,
well, my, my, you can find them. And then you chip your beloved children. And then the beloved husband and wife,
and then pretty soon everybody will have the chip.
Alan: Yes. Just normalize it.
Jackie: So nobody can ever hide. There’s no place to hide, is there, Alan?
Alan: That’s the thing. They normalize something, which really, if you stand back, it is bizarre. But actually,
normalized bizarreness. And they do. And they said they’d do this, at that Loyola Meeting, where the world scientists
met, chaired by Newt Gingrich. And it was sponsored or paid for by the US Department of Commerce. And it’s to do
with an implanted chip in the brain. And they said they would promote this through kindergarten, through cartoons,
through novels, through movies, and make it a positive thing. And so, they can normalize anything that they wish if we
fall for it.
Jackie: Wait, now I, you lost me somewhere there, Alan. Okay. Would you repeat that?
Alan: Well, that’s their whole agenda, to normalize something which is a dangerous idea. If we stand back individually,
and think about it rationally, it’s a dangerous idea. But you can actually normalize it by good marketing strategies,
really, to the people. And all you have to do is give some PR out of how they found this woman’s child that was lost.
Jackie: But how would they normalize planting a chip in the brain, Alan?
Alan: They could do it. They can do it, whatever they want, because it’s done primarily through fiction. Young
children already are watching this stuff with their superheroes in the cartoons, and in some of the movies.
Jackie: Okay, but how do they make it look good?
Alan: They give them extra, enhanced abilities of intellect, or you don’t have to study. You could be downloaded with
all the data, and without studying for it. Or you could have amazing strength, or whatever, you see. So, that’s how
they’re promoting it to the very young children. And so, they want to be like their heroes. And they know this. They
always give people heroes. Children like and want heroes. So, they supply the heroes, and of course, they’re being
programmed for something that’s not for them. It’s for a small elite to control them in the future.
Jackie: Right, right, of course. Jeff came to visit and he brought a flyer that he took off the bulletin board down in
Wellsboro. And this is another, another example. It’s just a page and it’s in big letters, it says, Looking for a Job? Use
this checklist on your interview. If your employer can’t meet such simple demands, give me a call. And there’s a yes or
no here to check. Will you receive at least $1178 to $1501 a month plus room and board? Will you earn two pay raises
a year for the first four years? Will you receive thirty days paid vacation per year? Will you receive a pay raise if you
get married? Are full recreational facilities available, i.e. golf, tennis, theater, pool, horseback riding, etc.? Will you be
entitled to medical and dental benefits, with unlimited sick leave? Will you be accepted without experience? Will you
be taught a skill at the firm’s expense with full pay? Can you quit after two to four years, to attend college and expect
the employer to contribute all but $1200 to an educational fund of up to $70,000? Will the employer pay for 100% of
your college tuition while you’re working for him? Can you ask for cash bonuses of up to $40,000, will the employer
pay off your college loan up to $65,000, while you’re working for him or her? Will you be allowed to work in locations
where you’ve never been, like Hawaii or Europe? An army of one. And if you cannot, if your employer can’t meet the
simple demands of these, give him a call, Sgt. Pond. He’s a recruiter for the military. And I read that, and I said, hell,
I’m going to go sign up, this is great. A full recreational facility. I can go to Hawaii or Europe. Isn’t this pathetic,
Alan?
Alan: Well, it’s standard PR.
Jackie: Well, I’ve never seen one of these before, maybe they’re all over the place.
Alan: Well, the old Masonic ones used to say “I am” or “I be”. In the Middle Ages they’d say “I be” for “I am”. And
that was the standard joke in Britain for years, when they were recruiting, during the troubles in Ireland with the IRA,
and they’d say, Be all that you can be. And of course, they said the same thing, you could travel the world and meet
people. And of course, the standard joke was, yeah, and you can run up the shank hole road with the bullets bouncing at
your heels. So, they never tell you that there’s a bad part about it.
Jackie: Well, certainly, they’re not mentioning Iraq, Iran, Syria, you know, Afghanistan. Oh, and where are these
recreational facilities for god’s sake, Alan? And they lie to them. They lie to them. I’ve got newspaper articles in
there, and in our section, so, you want to go to war? There’s a lot of these items like this. Like, promising some man, I
forget what the heck the bonus was, if he would re-up, and once he did, they wouldn’t give him his bonus. Now, when
you go to court today, when they try to go to court, you know what’s going to happen. The government always wins.
Alan: That’s right. And it’s also the same when you come down with one of the illnesses after the inoculations if you’re
in the military. Some horror stories have come out of the VA hospital, about the kind of treatment they get.
Jackie: My dad died in a VA hospital, Alan. And my friend, Mel. He was in Vietnam. And he was supposed to have
surgery on his knee. It was at least three years ago. And they withdrew or lowered the money, you know, withdrew
funds from the VA thing. And so, they couldn’t give him his surgery, so now he gets to have a walker.
Alan: This is the stuff they don’t promote in the ads, you see.
Jackie: And you know what I want to say. I know I’m talking a lot. And I know that our listeners, they tune in, a lot of
them, because they want to hear you. So, if you get any complaints, tell them I get my chance every now and then too.
But, I got an email, and it was just phenomenal, and I was formatting it to send over to Darren. And Alan, it was one of
the best I’ve seen written, about the chemtrails. All kinds of things. And I get to this one part. And this is a
confirmation about the controlled opposition, how 99.5% of what they say is not only truthful, but it’s really, usually,
well, well, well written and presented. Then, one of the paragraphs in there said something about, how was it that
nineteen hijackers were able to fly around in our airspace for over an hour. And so, there we are. And then, of course,
Saddam Hussein was brought into it, the monster, Saddam. So, there we are, this one fabulous article, about global
warming, chemtrails, illnesses, etc, etc. And then there’s that one paragraph, and that’s the big hook. You know,
they’ve got to keep that lie going. So, I went to the website, where it was posted. Come to find out, it was Kinkaid.
Kinkaid is or was a long-time member. He’s one of the phony, you know, controlled opposition, phony conservative,
Christian Conservative. And it was on his website. And I said, well, that makes sense. You know, that’s the same
thing Phyllis Schlafly and all of them do. Tom Deweese is another one. He just puts out absolutely fabulous
information. And I called him one day, and it was something in one of his newsletters that he puts out. He puts out
free, of course. Slick. I mean, you have to wonder where they get all their money. But whatever it was, it was so not
right. And I called him to talk to him about it. And he said, Jackie, I agree with everything you said. And I said, well,
are you going to make amends here. And then he went on to slip slide around me. And basically, I did it to give him
the benefit of the doubt, because I was pretty clear that, you know, he had all these little hooks in his stuff. Little tiny
ones. They look little but they’re big. They’re big lies. And the same thing with Kinkaid. And I’m saying this for our
listeners who fall for these kinds of things. Folks. You have to watch for the hooks. And any time you read anything
that talks about nineteen hijackers, 9/11, on September 11th, at the World Trade Center debacle. Any time you read
that, you know that it’s part of the controlled opposition. Because there’s nobody out there that’s out there with that
kind of information, Alan, that doesn’t know.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Okay. I’m done.
Alan: Well, that’s the key to it. It’s always been this way though. The strategies that are planned way in advance, like a
military type campaign over the public mindset. They look for what will come out of the public. What their responses
will be. And so, they always give them the leaders to follow, who seem to give very good information. And as you say,
then they spin it off somehow. And that’s the little hook that they have in it. They prepare in advance, even before they
start their first move, by putting these people out, waiting for the event to happen.
Jackie: And you know, often times, their lies are lies of omission. And you have to know the facts in order to hear. And
what reminded me of that was in ’95, when we were working to stop the Conference of States. There were two, Senator
Jesse Helms and another US Senator from Colorado, who were promoting the Conference of States and wanted to be
delegates that went to it. Well, Phyllis Schlafly waited until it was really won. It was, I mean, they had been beaten,
and she put out an absolutely exquisite piece. Differently, differently written than anything anybody had written. But it
never mentioned Jesse Helms. She mentioned whatever the guy’s name was in Colorado, but she wouldn’t mention
Jesse Helms. He is of course a 33rd degree Mason and a member of the Council for National Policy. And if people
didn’t know what really happened, they wouldn’t have known she lied by omission.
Alan: Well, it’s easy to present the wrong picture, by giving them half the story.
Jackie: Yes. And protect their cohorts. You know what I’ve been wanting to do. When there is so much information
that is given. And sometimes, it’s so overwhelming to, I mean, even people who are awakening, it can be
overwhelming. And like I, you know, I had received an email some time back from somebody who said, well, what do
we do? Do we just sit back and let them steamroll over us, and etc.? And it looks to me like they’re winning. And the
one thing that I feel that we’ve been neglecting in part of the conversation, Alan, and you can present it so beautifully, is
the fact that the power that is within each and every individual, and I’m talking taking it to a level, of beyond this
physical, in other words, even though it’s still in the physical. And I was hoping maybe that you would share with our
listeners, some of the information that you have imparted in the past, and haven’t for a long time.
Alan: Well, I said, I’d never be a cheerleader for the people.
Jackie: I don’t know what that means.
Alan: What I mean is, I would never, ever go out there and tell them it’s going to be alright. What I do tell them is that
on an individual level, you can make it alright for yourself, maybe. And a spinoff of that, a side effect, is that you can
help others along the way, even unintentionally. Because I think for every person who truly, and I mean truly gets
beyond the awake stage. I don’t mean the awake of realizing you’ve just been taken over. We’ve been taken over a
long, long, long time ago. And all you’re doing really, is waking up out of the dream that you’ve been in for so long.
Your whole life, really, and your parents, and way back into the past. So, I tell people, don’t panic when you wake up,
thinking you’re just losing it all now. In reality, you never had it.
Jackie: Okay. But where does that leave an individual?
Alan: It’s up to the individual, if they can even handle that much of it. Most can’t even handle that much of it. And
that’s the common problem that you hear in so many telephone calls, is how to wake up their friends and their relatives.
And I hear that every day. And I say, why are you wasting your time trying to wake up people when the chances are
maybe one in five thousand, or more, can wake up. So what I tell them, is don’t cause friction at home. That’s the first
thing. Because people spend years trying to change people around about them. And I say, all that energy could be done
trying to help someone who’s taken the first step. They’re waking up and they need the information. And hopefully,
maybe along the road, if your relatives have it in them, if by hearing you discuss it with them, maybe they’ll be able to
come to the same level. But many will choose not to. There’s also a choice involved here. A big choice. Many people
truly want to believe that they are being well managed. And never forget that. That’s a choice they make. And so, I tell
them don’t cause dissension. Because, it’s almost like evangelizing at home. You know what that’s like. It’s the same
thing. And if the person cannot get it, or does not want to get it, you’ll end up with discord. And everyone is unhappy.
So, it’s best to try and find those who are trying to wake up. And even then there’s a process of waking up into different
levels of awareness. Some get stuck in the money trap, thinking, it’s just the money. If we can get the money back,
we’ll be saved.
Jackie: No, if we can go back to a gold standard.
Alan: That’s right. Or, if we can just get the right politicians in, it will all change. And all of this kind of thing. They
don’t realize it’s way beyond that. And that it’s always been this way. I’ll give you an example of that. I don’t know if
you’ve heard of Don Scott.
Jackie: Oh, yeah, Donald Scott.
Alan: Well, he did a lot on the chemtrails and….
Jackie: Wasn’t he one of the authors of The Brucellosis Triangle?
Alan: He did that. Well, he had got his Federal MP, his Member of Parliament, and furnished her with all this data, and
went to Ottawa. And she stood up and asked the Ministry of Defence why and what they’re doing with all this spraying
over the skies. And she had all the facts to back it up. All the data, all the photographs, etc, from all over. And the
Department of Defence or the man who was in charge, the politician in charge said, “We do not have to answer you.”
Jackie: We do not have to answer you.
Alan: So, there’s your democracy in action. See, there is no democracy. It’s a charade for the public to believe in.
Jackie: Okay. Let’s say we’re talking, you’re talking to an individual. Or, let’s say, on the air, where you have a lot of
people listening. And we talk about this system, and how ancient this system is, and how we’ve always been
programmed, how they have cultured us. Literally, the world is their petri dish, and we are their organisms.
Alan: These are all sciences on human behavior.
Jackie: Okay, Alan. That’s what I’m saying. And then, on top of that, there are religions. And you know, you have the
Christian religion, you have Judaism or Talmudism, whatever. All religions, even though there is truth there, most of it
is more just mind control and programming. You know, people being “the fear of God”, he’s a good God-fearing man
and all this stuff. It goes beyond that too. See, I think that’s what, part of what’s been missing, at least as part of or
occasionally, to have people who are caught in that trap, Alan, to be able to see that that is a trap, like everything else.
And basically, they have trapped the soul. Because they have removed or blocked, the ability or the grasp for a person
to recognize the power that is within. And that’s what I feel. I’ve been wanting for a few weeks now to do this.
Because you have talked about it before.
Alan: Yeah. But it’s multi-layered.
Jackie: Otherwise, what use is all this information if a person sits there bewildered and overwhelmed and says, “Well,
my God, what am I doing here, then? And why are we here? What am I here for?” Do you see what I’m saying, Alan?
Alan: I know where they all go with it. And again, it depends how much they’ve come through it all to understand
much higher things. Many cannot go higher. Some can.
Jackie: Yeah, but you know, unless a seed is planted for an individual to consider.
Alan: But once a seed is planted, and it takes up within themselves, because, the first step really, is self-analysis. Not
world analysis. It’s self-analysis.
Jackie: Yes. And what does that mean? Would you expand on that?
Alan: Well, if you are truly, in a sense, and this is again the occultic side, because they know this is a fact. That you are
a microcosm, which basically contains all of the macrocosm, or everything around you. Everything is known within
you. The truth is within you. That’s why you can perceive it when you hear it. It’s already there, you see. It means
that unless you understand yourself, it’s know thyself, has always been the rule. How can you possibly point out what’s
wrong with the world if you’re all wrong with yourself? That’s why we’re in the mess we’re in. We have control
freaks and psychopaths running our lives for us. And they don’t reflect for a minute on their own personalities or their
own self. They sleep well at night after planning mass slaughters called wars. They go to parties and they laugh and
joke and they have no conscience. They are unable to even look at themselves as they are. So, those who must bring
the world into a different arena, have to start with themselves. And look at every part of their own life, who they are as
a person. Who are they, in fact, as a spiritual being. What is a spiritual being?
Jackie: Thank you. Yes.
Alan: And then again, you find out you’re constantly at war in this world with yourself. Because this is the place where
spirit meets matter. The contest between spirit and matter.
Jackie: You know what that reminds me of. The story in the Bible about Jesus sitting out there for forty days and forty
nights, and Satan comes to him, and says, hey, if you follow me, look, and he showed him all this stuff. You know, you
can rule the world basically. And in the Bible, Jesus said, Satan, get thee behind me. When I read that, I mean, later of
course. I thought, that was a wrestling. We’re going to take a break.
Alan: It’s all allegory for the same thing.
Jackie: All allegory, but I’d like to pick this up on the other side of this break. Because, thank you, this is what I hoped
that we could get into tonight. Folks. We’ll be back with you, with Alan Watt, in about a couple of minutes. So, you
be sure and stay with us.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, Alan. We were talking about the allegory of that story. When I read it, later in my life, not as, you know,
a young person going to church and stuff, the way it appeared to me was that it was symbolic of the wrestling that you
were talking about. That spiritual nature with the human nature. And when he said, Satan, get thee behind me. Well,
the thought that occurred to me, is I thought, he didn’t have to have Satan show him. You know, if we’re going with the
story in the bible of the miracles and etc, and walking on water, and da, da, da, da, da. He didn’t need anybody or
anything to say, well, follow me, and I’ll give you this, and I’ll give you that, because he already knew. And maybe
that’s the whole point, is knowing within our own selves. And maybe when he says, Satan, get thee behind me, maybe
it’s when there was no more wrestling. In other words, we’re not here to be powerful controllers. To be “wealthy”.
And nothing wrong with it if we are, if it happens to happen, depending on what we do with it. But I mean, the lust or
the constant wanting more and more and more. And what we’re always wanting more and more and more of, is
physical stuff. You see what. Am I making any sense?
Alan: Well, what it is, as I say, it’s the battle of spirit and matter. Because in matter, everyone needs to eat and live and
sleep and have a roof over their head. And of course, the system in which we live in is totally artificial and fake. And
what it does is exploit all the natural fears people have. Poverty, sickness, loneliness, illness, no home, no food, all of
those things. So, success therefore is the opposite of all those things which they exploit. Success is having all of those
things, which means that you, in turn, exploit those beneath you. So, personally, I don’t think that riches can even be
used properly. We shouldn’t be using money at all. It’s an anti-human thing.
Jackie: Yeah, I know. But if there is. I maybe was relating to when I owned my business, and I began to question even
the business that I was in, because, it was, you know, it was fitness centers. It was all about, you know, getting a
physical body in shape, in condition, healthy. And I was making very good money, because the business was
successful. It was successful, I do know, because we were giving to those people who came in, what they, you know,
we were serving them. But the point is, I’ve wondered if it was okay that I was making that kind of money. Well, you
know what, Alan, I didn’t go into the business to become “rich” and I wasn’t rich, but I had lots more than I needed at
the time. I went into it, because it’s what I knew, what I loved doing. And it was serving people. But then, it really
does depend on, does it rule us, or does it make us think that we’re somebody or something above somebody else,
because we have “more” than that person has.
Alan: This system worships multi-millionaires.
Jackie: Yeah. I understand that.
Alan: And so, that in itself tells you that you can’t normalize a deviancy.
Jackie: Well, I wasn’t a millionaire, but I had lots more than I needed.
Alan: But that’s the key to everything, as I say. They exploit everything in this system which they’ve given us.
Jackie: But I wasn’t exploited. That’s my whole point, Alan. You said money cannot be used right, because we
shouldn’t even being using money.
Alan: That’s right, it’s a deviant system.
Jackie: However, it is a system that we are in right now, and you are too. You need money.
Alan: We’ve been given no choice.
Jackie: Thank you. And my point is, it depends if we have money, how we are with it. Does it make us think that oh,
wow, we’re somebody really good or superior or better or somehow over other people. Or is it just something that’s
happening to us in our life, and maybe we use it for helping other people who are lacking in. Do you see what I’m
saying, Alan?
Alan: Well, I think it’s getting off the whole thing. The thing is, in a world of matter vs. spirit, there’s going to be a
battle always, because, let’s be honest here, when you’re young, when everyone is young, they’re sitting healthy and
they want to have a good time and enjoy themselves. They don’t want to be burdened with the worries the adults have,
or the older people have. But, life can really be pretty tough at times, for everyone.
Jackie: You know what, even if you have money, life can be tough.
Alan: Yeah, it can be tough. And the world of matter is always transitory. The world of spirit can, can possibly, but not
always, be eternal. And that’s the key, because in ancient times, they did not believe that the spirit had the right to live
forever, or at least the soul. There was a difference between soul and spirit.
Jackie: There is. I mean, in those two words there is a difference, isn’t there?
Alan: Big difference. In this modern language, they’ve tended to blend the two together interchangeably.
Jackie: Would you explain your understanding of the difference between soul and spirit?
Alan: Soul was the animating force. That’s why even Christians miss this, because they’ve been brainwashed again in
the last century, really.
Jackie: More than that, all the way through.
Alan: Yeah, but really more in the last century, because they used to know the difference. They used to know this. It
used to be taught that everyone was born with soul. And soul is a sort of life animating type, separate from spirit. And
the purpose of soul was to seek out spirit. And that’s why in the New Testament, the disciples asked him how to get
everlasting life. You see, if they were already immortal, you wouldn’t be asking that. And so, he was talking about
how to receive spirit. How do you gain spirit?
Jackie: Or gain spirit, or connect with and recognize.
Alan: It comes to the person. And this was taught long before the Christian Era, that when you were on the right path
with yourself, then the spirit that was made for you, that part of you that was separated when you came into the physical
world, it would draw closer and closer and when it united then you had the actual knowing that you would then go on.
If the spirit did not come to you in your lifetime, the soul literally after death could sort of linger for maybe a few
centuries, and then die away, or be recycled, but know nothing.
Jackie: And whose belief is that? The ancient belief.
Alan: That was what they believed in all of the ancient religions.
Jackie: Well, you know what? When I think of spirit “having to come closer to us” or come into us or whatever. What
would we call it, the consciousness, of everything that is in this physical world. And I’ll use as an example, the
consciousness of plants. There is a consciousness there, Alan, and you know that.
Alan: I know there’s an awareness here, you know.
Jackie: A lower form of consciousness. I’m not saying that a plant thinks, I mean, but we do know, I’ve experienced it
myself, with plants. They respond to us. To the care they’re given. To the love that, or the well, love your plants.
Maybe that’s not the word to use for it, but they respond to love. To an acknowledgment, or maybe an understanding
that there is a consciousness in all things. Now, what is that consciousness? I’d call it creator, because, what else would
it be, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, but again, it’s not through everything. And you see, that was the old Gnostic teachings.
Jackie: Well, what do you mean, it isn’t through everything?
Alan: Well, like rock and everything else, you know.
Jackie: How do you know that?
Alan: That’s just my personal understanding. And the fact is, getting back to people again, people have to know
themselves, before they can truly come close to anything called or would even vaguely call a creator.
May 24th, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is
Wednesday. It is the 24th of May in the year 2006, folks. Alan Watt is with us, this evening of course. And thank you
for being with us, Alan.
Alan: It’s a pleasure, yeah.
Jackie: So, is there anything particular tonight that is on your mind that you want to begin with?
Alan: I was just going to mention that apparently it was, I think it was NBC in California, or Los Angeles I think had
broadcast last night or this morning on a town which has been affected by these trails, these chemtrails. And they
mentioned that there was a yellow powder coming down. Now, this was back in February.
Jackie: And NBC broadcast this?
Alan: I believe so. And they were streaming it today. I never caught it myself, but what I was told was that one of the
Departments of the Environment sent out someone who tried to say it was pollen. But it was too early in the year for
pollen. And the townspeople had been getting sick. And they said that they saw the stuff coming down, and it exploded
in the air at one point. Now, what kind of pollen explodes, overhead?
Jackie: When they say explode, I wonder. See, I can’t picture that. What?
Alan: It was kind of like a gaseous type of cloud that was just yellow. And they saw the aircraft spraying them.
Jackie: And the news reported it.
Alan: This was on this broadcast. I’m just wondering if they’re going to broadcast it across the country eventually.
Because here, you see, about a month or so ago, on the first rain that we had, a couple of hours later there was a three or
four inch wide yellow band around every puddle. Every puddle had it. And it lasted for a few days, and even when it
came down really heavy for the next couple of days, that yellow band stayed there. And when the puddle started to dry,
it left this band behind them. So, I got some samples and I may try and get them tested. It’s not pollen, because we
didn’t have any film of pollen coming off anything. Generally you get a film on your windows and on your vehicle.
But there was none of that.
Jackie: Exactly. You would.
Alan: So, I’ve never seen this.
Jackie: Do you have any thought of what type of mixture this could be that would be a yellow? I mean, what would be
in it that would have it yellow?
Alan: Well, we know that Britain has declassified documents from the ’60s, only recently. And they admitted to using
cadmium, which they…
Jackie: Cadmium red.
Alan: It’s a yellow powder.
Jackie: Oh cadmium is. Oh, there is cadmium yellow, isn’t there?
Alan: And they sprayed this from ships that blew it in over Norfolk in England. And then they observed the public for
years. And they had the highest esophageal cancer rate and no doubt.
Jackie: Esophageal is the Esophagus.
Alan: It’s a tremendous carcinogen. So, we don’t know what they’re up to really, unless we get the stuff tested.
Jackie: Alan, okay, there is a cadmium yellow and a cadmium red in the oil paint. Is cadmium itself yellow, and they do
something to make cadmium red?
Alan: It makes it inert, in other words, not dangerous.
Jackie: What, the cadmium red?
Alan: I believe so, in paint.
Jackie: I can remember once I was taking a painting course at the Art Institute in Springfield. And I, you know, I would
get paint on my fingers and wipe my face, you know. And my teacher came over, and she said, Jackie, get that off your
face and get it off your fingers. That is very dangerous. And I thought she was really overreacting, but maybe not?
Alan: Well, it may be not so bad there, but if you’re breathing a powdered form in, it certainly would be. And it’s just
amazing that this stuff is being declassified. I mean, this is what I keep trying to tell people. There are so many levels
of real government above the one that you elect. And I talked to Don Scott about it, up in Sudbury, and he’s been on the
radio about these trails, and what they’ve been doing. And he got his federal MP, now that’s the federal politician
Member of Parliament, to bring this up in Parliament, and the Minister for Defence refused to answer. He said he didn’t
have to answer. So, we have no, literally no complaints department here as to what’s happening.
Jackie: No, of course there isn’t. Tell me what you know about, or what, Donald Scott was one of the authors of the
Brucellosis Triangle. I did have a conversation with him one time. And it was after, I don’t know if you recall this.
Remember the people that had the four shepherds. It was a sheep farm and they had imported these sheep. And the
EPA came, you know, with their flack jackets and their jackboots and their guns, for a family of four. Two children and
the mother and father. They took every single one of their sheep and they killed them all. And I had them on the air
with us. I had the father. And I got all of their, or a lot of their documentation. And there had been testing of those
sheep, and there was nothing wrong with them. But their sheep were taken anyway. And of course, their whole
investment was gone. It was one of those power grabs. And when I was talking with Don Scott, he called me, because
evidently one of our listeners told him he should come on Sweet Liberty. And at first, when he called, I said, well, you
would have to call me on your dime, because I don’t have an 800 number. Oh, that’s no problem. And then we got
talking about that family. And he just insisted that those sheep had to be killed. And I said, you shouldn’t say that until
you read all the information, and the crime and the corruption and deceit that went on in regard to this. He said they had
Kreutzfeldt-Jakob disease. Kreutzfeldt-Jakob, or however you would do that. Well, anyway, as we talked, he was
going to be, as I said, on the air with me. And then before we were off the phone he said, well, I guess he called me
back, he said, well he had talked to his partners or whatever, and he just couldn’t do the broadcast with me because their
budget was so low and he couldn’t afford the call. And initially, everything was fine, but the point is, he was going
along with the stealing of these sheep, like it had to have been done, and Alan, it didn’t.
Alan: Yeah. But, I don’t know anything about this particular case. But, generally there’s some recompense or
something if they do something like that. Although, in Britain, with the mad cow nonsense, they literally went into
farms and they flew teams by helicopter in, and they’d walk into barns and just shoot them all and fly off again, and
leave it to the farmers.
Jackie: These sheep were bred from a strain that had been tested and tested for any disease. And then, after they were
bred and these people were importing them, first they were quarantined in their home country, before they were able to
come over here. Then they got over here and they were quarantined. And they paid a very high price. And these
people were making their living, making, I guess, just delicious cheese and stuff like that. Well, they lost everything.
Alan: See, there’s so much going on that we have no idea about, really. And I don’t like to alarm people, but I think
they have to stop thinking that the world is going to come to an end sometime in the distant future, all at once, because
you’ll find out that we’ve been given poisons and so on, and tested on. In fact, it’s been happening to people before I
was born. And it’s happened during my generation. And they’re doing it to the next generation. It’s an ongoing
program here, where we are, this is the laboratory, and we’re the guinea pigs. And not only that, they know I think what
they’re really, really doing. It’s an interesting thing.
Jackie: You think they know what they’re doing.
Alan: Yeah they do. These guys have such incredible plans. And you cannot go by the media. The media will put you
into a certain mindset so you can’t really fathom out what’s happening, because you’re trying to use normal logic,
according to the data. But when you use the observations and the facts that come out over the years, you start to get this
incredible picture that these characters know exactly where they’re going with it all. And then you tap into the global
meetings on depopulation, and also rendering people ill, so that they’ll be very poor marriage partners, and all of this
has been going on for donkey’s years. And here we are getting sprayed like bugs every day, from these aircraft, and
there’s not a peep from anybody near the top or any media. Now, a media that won’t even talk about this, I wouldn’t
listen to them about anything. Because that’s how controlled they are. That shows you, there’s total control. And no
one in the media is going to risk their job and their career by stating what’s obvious if we just look up. And that’s a
scary thought when you think about it. So, we’ve got to stop relying on them for information on anything, and do it all
ourselves.
Jackie: Gonzalez. What the heck is his… I can’t remember who he is. Attorney General? Well, I got an email this
weekend, this past weekend, where he was quoted as saying that journalists can be prosecuted. That is, evidently, if
something they’re reporting is considered to be a threat to national security.
Alan: Oh, I know. They’re taking this all the way.
Jackie: Journalists. And you know, there have been a lot of journalists killed over there in Iraq and disappeared. So,
some of them when they try to jump ship, and do it right, Alan, they just do them in.
Alan: That’s the real world. See, that’s the real world. It’s a scary thing for most people to realize that all these glossy
magazines and newspapers, really, on the one hand, they’re not telling you really what’s happening. And a lot of what
they are telling you is total disinformation, to keep you twiddling your thumbs and smiling away. That’s part of mind
control. Mind control works primarily through the data that you receive. And when you believe that the media is there
to do your thinking for you, then you’re under mind control. And Aldous Huxley pretty well said that, you now. So,
this is well understood. We form our opinions on what we are fed.
Jackie: Well, you know, I remember one time, when we were talking, I know I brought this up last week, more on the
spiritual level, when you said that they’re at the top, the ones that we believe are in control are actually controlled by
another level. People that we don’t, or creatures, I don’t know what we would call them. But when I said, well, you
said that their greatest fear is that enough people will realize the power that is within us. And I asked, you know, at that
time, how many you think it would take, and you said, I don’t think too many, because there really aren’t too many of
them. And Alan, you see, to me, that’s important for people to realize that all of these plans, and all of what they’re
doing right now, and I know that we’re part of it, and we have been, but we know that with creator, all things are
possible.
Alan: They’re possible, as long as we understand fully, and I mean fully the situation we’re in. You see, close to this,
on the mirror image of this, you have all the new age movements, which grabs all the real data. You see, intelligence,
this is what intelligence and counter-intelligence is. Intelligence is information that’s been passed around to the
ordinary public. It’s leaked out. It’s getting passed around. Counter-intelligence agencies that work for the
supergovernments grab that information. They put out their own people to become superstars. And so, the public
immediately listen to them speak. We’re trained to follow the stars, like Hollywood. The big successful ones. So they
say the same things, the intelligence, then they counter it by wrapping it up in a lot of nonsense and throwing it into
outer space, or telling you it doesn’t matter, it’s all illusion. And that’s the trick of counter-intelligence. So, you see,
I’m trying to tell people. And I’ve heard people who phone me up. They’ll follow the big ones, and that’s what they’ll
tell me, “it doesn’t matter, because nothing is real anyway”. And I thought, boy, what a mind job has been done on
them, because now they’re rendered utterly harmless.
Jackie: Well, you know when I was listening to one of your videos, watching. And the questions that come in my mind,
and one of them was, okay, why are we here? Why are we here? Who are we and why are we here? We are here. At
least our consciousness is.
Alan: We wake up every day as ourselves.
Jackie: Yes. Well, what I’m saying is, and we had this. Actually it was a wonderful, spontaneous conversation once, on
the air. And I remember the date. And I went and got that tape, because I wanted to hear it. And the tape was totally
inaudible from my own machine.
Alan: I told you what happened here, a little while back there. I was taping something down to the States. He listened
to it, and all that. He put the tape up on something, on top of a speaker or something, or a table, and the next morning it
was wiped. He could hear his voice asking questions and my voice was gone. Everywhere I answered was gone. And
that’s the technology.
Jackie: Well, that’s what happened. I was just sick about it, because it was so important what we talked about,
basically, that we are all existing, even though our consciousness is fully focused here in the physical realm in the third
dimension, but that every single thing we do here matters in every single dimension.
Alan: Yeah. I’ll tell you one thing. The proof of it is, in this incredible length in planning. Now, 9/11, let’s start with
this nonsense here, 9/11, because we know they published in The Project for the New American Century, the whole war
plan to attack Afghanistan, Iraq, then Iran, then Syria, and then so on. And then Brzezinski brought his book out, The
Grand Chessboard, with the same strategy and battle plan in it. So, this was planned long before 9/11. And the proof is
also in the fact that pretty well every country on the planet is signed into this anti-terrorism campaign. And they went
into action at the same time, with the same plans, to make sure they can survey every single person in their population
totally in all communications. Now, that obviously took… Do you know with the speed of bureaucracy… Do you
know how slow bureaucracy is? You know, so this shows you the tremendous work that went in worldwide, long
before 9/11 came into being. And here’s your key. Now, what is it they’re afraid of? There’s people going through the
border there, who certainly do not look like Arabs. They don’t look like Arabs. But everybody is going through this
farce in every country. And your telephones are being tapped, your email, your fax, all communications. You,
everybody, has obviously got something in them that terrifies them. Everybody. It terrifies them. They’re going to
incredible lengths. You see, in an absolutely totalitarian system, everyone must be predictable. And this is taught in
law enforcement.
Jackie: So we must be unpredictable and unreasonable.
Alan: We have to think for ourselves. And that’s the key, it’s thinking for ourselves. And you can’t figure out what the
world is all about, until you start figuring out what you’re all about, you see. Now, that doesn’t mean you sit and navelgaze,
and cross your legs and shout Om, or whatever. It’s a matter of realizing that tremendous powers play in this
world. And no matter where you go, with following the history, and the way we’re shepherded. So perfectly
shepherded down through history, by a small group of elite masterminds, you might say. You’ll always come up
against the perfect planning of a diabolical type mind. And unfortunately, in the language we’re given, which again,
was created deliberately. It’s minimalistic in its descriptive capacity. But you can’t help but coming across something,
which is so intensely cunning and evil and just beyond the ordinary crook or even the super crook. Because everything
today is coming into place at the same time, that was all started a long time ago. Everything is falling into place, and
coming together. We can read about this with Blavatsky and the creation of theosophy, which was intended to blend
Christianity with Hinduism. And then they brought that out across the planet in an explosion with the Beatles when
they went off to the Maharashi, after they had gained their audience, remember. They didn’t start like that. First you’ve
got to grab the audience, and the people follow the stars. And once they were accepted and superstars, then they went
off to India, and all their followers were suddenly delving into all these books on Hinduism. That was planned that way.
Jackie: Okay. Let me ask. Oh, gosh. These conversations we have sometimes, so many thoughts and questions just
explode in my mind. Trying to keep it in order here. The reason that we have the religions, the reason that they control
education and entertainment is that they want to control our thoughts, because they know, absolutely, how powerful our
thoughts are. And they know how powerful our words are. And behind the thoughts and the words, what drives the
force or the power of them are our emotions.
Alan: Yes. The emotions and experiences.
Jackie: Exactly. So, they want to control our thoughts. And you have 40,000 Judea Christians, who are clamoring for
“Jesus to hurry up and come” because he’s going to take his seat in Israel, and this is God’s plan, it’s all God’s plan. So,
that’s how religion does it. And the emotions. The fears, the concerns. When we start worrying and we start getting,
well what am I going to do when this happens. I spoke with a friend today. An associate, let me say that. We had met
at one time, and we had had several conversations. And he was getting so frustrated with me, because, you know, he
was talking about, we do know this. As self-sufficient as we can be, we must be. However, we can only do the best we
can do, and if we sit around and worry about what’s going to happen because we haven’t done this, or we haven’t got
that, the worry itself, the fear, is a negative energy that is being generated, that they want us to generate.
Alan: This is obvious. And this is a strategy which has been used so many times before by the same people. And
they’ve got the audacity to publish this in books. Such as Carroll Quigley. He published the strategy of terrorizing the
general population, so as when you went to war, you’d breathe a sigh of relief. And they scared the British people for
years, telling them they were going to get gassed. And all the major cities in England shoved off their children, millions
of children, off to Scotland and Wales and different places. So they split up the families. And Quigley, who was the
historian for the CFR. You know, he wasn’t just a member of it.
Jackie: Right, he was their historian.
Alan: He said that the Royal Institute of International Affairs, which is the British one, of the same company, the same
group. He said that the newspaper men had all met together in the Royal Institute of International Affairs and decided
and planned this strategy to terrorize the public for three years.
Jackie: Yes. To keep us afraid.
Alan: And then, when they declared war, you see, everybody almost breathed a sigh of relief that something was
happening.
Jackie: Something is being done.
Alan: And they gave gas masks to all the people. Everybody had to carry them. And it’s same stuff they’re using now
with the flu. Oh, the flu. They’ve been saying this for years now and drumming, you know, get the drums going, and
terrorizing the public. And now they’re announcing, oh, it’s definitely going to hit this fall. They already admitted a
few months ago it was going to hit here come about March or April. And now they’re churning out these movies, these
docudramas, using real members of the UN and their various teams and their WHO, or Dr. Who, I call them. So they’re
using actors and real people to make this seem so real to the public. And it goes through, just like the disaster movies
that we’re all trained to watch. You see, it’s all done through fiction and then comes the reality. They start off with Day
One, when the first report comes in. Then Day Two. Then they’ll show you what happens. Then it goes up to Day
Fifteen, and my God, they’re rioting and looting.
Jackie: Yeah. And it’s total chaos.
Alan: And this is all training the public in the same type of mass hysteria, so you’ll do what you’re told, like a robot, and
go along with whatever is part of the agenda.
Jackie: And Alan, the energy itself that is generated. This is the way I see it in my mind’s eye. These creatures have no
emotion. The ones in control. They have no emotion. They have to have, an emotion is energy, and it is powerful, and
they have to have it in order to move their plan forward.
Alan: Well, we do have…
Jackie: So, they generate the negative emotions.
Alan: They make us generate it.
Jackie: Exactly. Well, they promulgate the fear, the concerns, the worry, the anger, the hatred. And people say, well,
it’s righteous anger, and whatever. I just know that when we get like that we’re doing and being and feeling the way
they want us to.
Alan: Absolutely. And I tell you something too. When someone is furious or angry or afraid, they’re missing so much
around them. They don’t see things. And that’s why they’re giving us all this incredible fear all the time.
Jackie: Well, this guy that I was talking to today, he was almost not hysterical, but he was so intensively emotional
about, Jesus, Jackie, don’t you know what they’re going to do. And do you know that they’re going to nuke this
country? I said, I believe that’s what their plan is. You know, I’ve said that before, that they’re probably going to set a
nuke off in one of the… He said more than one city. I said, how do you know? But you see, I wasn’t reacting or
responding with enough emotion. And he said, you don’t seem to get it. I said, yes, I do get it. I said, but what good is
my sitting and worrying about something? He said, because then you can be prepared. I said, how do we prepare? We
have to be self-sufficient. I said, well, do you have any suggestions for me? Well, you have to talk to people, and you
have to do this, and get a group of people together. And basically, he was frustrated with me, Alan. But I said, I’m not
going to live in fear. And I’m not going to live in worry. Because, I discovered a long time ago, my worry changes
nothing.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And I will do the best that I can do. And there’s where our faith comes in. And we are going to take a break
here in about 40 seconds. Folks, Alan Watt’s website is .com. Alan has three videos now, if you haven’t seen them, you
will want to take the time.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back with Alan Watt, folks. You know, I wanted to say again, just before the break. When we
think about. And I know that Alan, it takes, what does it take? Maybe understanding. I don’t think it takes will power.
I don’t think we can make “worry” until we understand and really get it that worrying about something changes nothing.
And I’m not saying, you know, we don’t have concerns about somebody we love, or etc. But what I’m getting at is to
sit and worry.
Alan: That’s immobilization.
Jackie: Yeah. But, say it again.
Alan: It’s immobilization. That’s what pure worry does.
Jackie: It immobilizes you.
Alan: Yeah. It immobilizes the person. And it truly will give you very poor health to begin with. It will bring you down
quickly. And if you’re worrying and fretting, it also brings those around you down quickly too.
Jackie: Well, you know what? Given that our thoughts, our emotions, our fears, etc, that we do attract to us that which
we fear. It’s all, but the thing is, to say to somebody, well, don’t worry. They’re like, what are you, nuts? How can I
not worry? Chuck and I talked about this a lot, because he was a worrywart. And we had so many conversations about
it. Finally, one day, I mean, I asked him. I said. He was concerned about finances. And of course, if you’re in sales,
and you’re hungry, and you show that you’re hungry and that you’re worried. You’re an opposite, like an opposite
magnet, like you repel instead of attract. And one day, I finally said it in a way that he understood. And I asked him,
Chuck, could it be any worse than it is right now. And he said, No. I said, so what has all your worry got you? He said,
nothing. I said, well, then try giving it up. Because it is useless. And it does. It de-energizes you. And maybe you
could just go out and have fun with what you’re doing, enjoy the people that you’re talking with, and don’t worry,
because that’s what the stoppage is. And Alan, I saw it in his eyes, that it finally sunk in. And I’m telling you, it was,
even that same day, he did something that he said when he got home, I don’t know what made me do that. Well, he
gave up, basically is what he did, and wound up getting a sale that gave him a $700 commission, that same afternoon. It
was within an hour after he left that the call came to the house. And so, to say to somebody, don’t worry, they look at
you like, well, how can you not worry. Well, because I found out that worry changes nothing.
Alan: Well, that’s the same thing we were talking about earlier with the language itself. It isn’t specific enough, as
compared to other languages. And so, really what we’re talking about is when you get to a state of fretting. When you
fret, you know. And when you’re fretting about something, that’s worry that is not constructive. You’re worrying for
the sake of worry, with no solutions. You see. That’s destructive. It’s a destructive state.
Jackie: But what good does worry do?
Alan: Well, what I mean is, we should really differentiate it between concern.
Jackie: Concern, yes.
Alan: You see concern is different.
Jackie: Exactly.
Alan: In other words, you always know, yeah, this is wrong, and I see what they’re doing, and you’re aware of things,
but you don’t let it get into a panic state where you sit and fret about it.
Jackie: Well, for example. You know, frantically saying, they are going to do this. They are going to do that. They are
going to. And I said, well, I know what their plans are. I know what their intentions are. I am not going to help to
speak their plans into the material world. And that’s what they do. And I know that they know this, Alan.
Alan: Well, they know it.
Jackie: And that’s why they’ve got us saying, oh, well, it’s God’s plan. It’s God’s plan. I had somebody call one day,
and said, you know, what I was talking about. He said, I love listening to you because you’re so inspiring. But, he said,
Jackie, don’t you understand, it’s God’s plan.
Alan: It’s preordained.
Jackie: Yes. And when you can get a billion or two or three billion people thinking. You know what I believe, I believe
that if enough of us said the sun comes up in the West, that the whole physical apparatus would change, Alan. That our
belief holds it in place.
Alan: I’d have to move my kitchen to another room.
Jackie: There you go. Yeah, me too. But that is so important for us to know, that with all of this terror that they are
trying to create, and they are terrorists.
Alan: This is a Reign of Terror. It’s not a War on Terror. It’s your standard Illuminati type Reign of Terror. And I was
thinking about Trotsky the other day there. And Trotsky wrote a few books. One of them was a book. I think it was In
Praise of Terror. He was justifying. He said the techniques of terrorizing the populations, so that they would go along
with what the elite had planned. And of course, he counted himself amongst the elite of his day.
Jackie: They do know what they’re doing.
Alan: They know. This is an old technique of stampeding the public. You know, I think it was around the 1500s, when
Britain wanted to. Well, it wasn’t Britain. We should stop using these terms, really. It was a group in London who
wanted to go to war with the whole of France and loot it basically. And they put out propagandists to go into
communities and, I don’t know if you’ve seen these speakers they had that would say, oh yea, oh yea, and everybody
would gather around a village. And he’d give the latest news. That’s what they did. They sent them from London.
And they told the people. These were ordinary people. Actually, they were illiterate. And they told them, that there
was strange events, strange events happening, that sounds kind of familiar, where shipwrecks were coming up on the
coast of England, and these strange Frenchmen that don’t look human were being caught. And it actually came that a
ship came across and did flounder off England. They had some pet monkeys on board, and some of the local people
hung them, thinking they were French.
Jackie: Oh, my.
Alan: That’s what they do. Well, we’re hearing the same stuff with the aliens are here, and all the rest of it. It’s the
same strategies they’ve used down the ages to confuse us, panic us, into doing ridiculous things. And we see this. You
remember Orson Welles did the War of the Worlds on radio.
Jackie: And people jumped out of windows.
Alan: They were shooting at water towers, thinking these were the aliens. And people died, you know, during that
panic, and smashes.
Jackie: People killed themselves before the aliens could get them.
Alan: And then they admitted in conjunction with the CIA, it was a national psychological test on the public, using the
Psychology Department of Princeton University. This was authorized. They authorized them to do it, to panic the
people. And this was for future use. And now we’re seeing the similar techniques being used today, where there’s
always a great enemy or multiple enemies. So, now all Arabs are suspect. And even though you don’t look anything
like an Arab, you’re going to get stopped and questioned too. And then you’ve got bird flu that you can’t even see, you
see. So you’ve got all these strange enemies all coming at you at once. And then the CIA is putting out, well, you’re
going to get nuked, and it’s coming in as well off the harbor, and blah, blah, blah. And this is all to panic the people.
And when you’re running in a circle, the big boys are moving swiftly.
Jackie: Well, you know what happens too, Alan. When we’re in fear like that, we disconnect from our spirit.
Alan: Spirit and personal power, and your right to participate in life and the creation of destiny. Because you forget it
all. You’re looking for a savior to come, generally in a suit and tie or a uniform. And it’s not going to happen. You are
your own champion here.
Jackie: Thank you. Yes. If there is a hero, it’s each and every one of us, and it comes down to this, really. Well,
you’ve said it. And in fact, when you said it, it took me maybe six months to really get it. That it’s up to each and
every one of us, how we live our lives, Alan.
Alan: And we have a right to. You see, we have. We’re all born the same way. I don’t care if someone is sitting in the
top of Buckingham Palace, or the Pentagon, or the White House. We’re all born the same way. And really, they have no
special rights over our destinies. They’re not my shepherd, put it that way. I don’t need a shepherd, not a physical one.
Jackie: Yes. Exactly. And the thing is, that if we’re living in fear, there’s no way that we can live in a way that could
make a difference. Because we’re not connected. We’re not hearing that inner voice, that inner guidance. I shouldn’t
say voice, maybe, because I’m not talking about an actual voice, but the guidance. The understanding and awareness
that is within us. There’s no way, we’re going to be able to be in touch with that, if we’re living in fear and anxiety and
anger.
Alan: You’re just like sheep running around a pen, bouncing off the walls because you’re panicking. Panic is the word.
Jackie: So, maybe sometimes, when somebody says, what is it we can do.
Alan: It’s a long journey because it’s a process. You have to really look into yourself, first of all. And most people
truly want this system, just time to stop. They want time just to stop, and they can continue slowly in their system.
Jackie: In other words, it’s just don’t let it get any worse.
Alan: And I keep saying, look, this system, which they call civilization, is a moneyed system, which they gave us
thousands of years ago, at least, many thousands of years ago. And that gave the leisure class. It also gave the ability to
tax labor from people, because we are all working towards their great plan, you see. And you can’t save something that
is corrupt from the base upwards. You can’t do it. You can’t save. What part of the corruption do you want to save?
Jackie: Yes. And I know that we’ve talked about this, but I will say it again. It was Betty Mills and I, when we were
having a conversation. Like, one day, okay, I said, Betty, if we could stop it, right here, how in the world would we
ever start turning it around? Well, then, years later, it occurred to me, there’s nothing to turn around to. Why would we
want it to turn around?
Alan: What part of the corruption in history…
Jackie: Yeah, would you like to have back.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Or would you like to preserve or go back to?
Alan: Because, as long as money has been here, which brought around the ability of a ruling elite to live and hire people
to scheme and manage the people, it’s always been corrupted. We’ve never truly been free. In fact, we have no real
records. In fact, all the records we’ve had were given in history as given by the authorized historian, just like the
authorized Bible. It’s authorized by the top. And so, they give us authorized history. And when you dig into the
history yourself, and the various writings of ancient times, you start to piece it together for yourself. And these
characters have tried this before. That’s why they’re going to such incredible lengths today to try and ensure they know
what everyone else is doing, everybody on the planet. I mean, that is a fearful state to be in for them, when they must
have minute observation of every single man, woman, and child on this planet. That tells you that this is a critical phase
for those at the top.
Jackie: Their window of opportunity.
Alan: Because this has never, ever happened on a world scale like this before. Even during World War II, we didn’t
have all of this hassle, listening, snooping into every single individual. They’re going to every extreme. There’s never
been a tyrant in history who would have dreamt of having this power, or even going this far, as they’re doing today.
Jackie: Well, I guess they dreamt of it. But they didn’t have the…
Alan: The know-how.
Jackie: Right. Exactly, how was that going to happen.
Alan: So this is an incredible length they’re going to. And they’re having their world meetings. They’re having one in
Ottawa in June. That’s a Bilderberger meeting. So, they have their big world meetings. And Bilderberger, you see, this
is High Masonic. Build, the builders. That’s why they called it after the Bilderberger, they named it Bilderberger Hotel
before they had their meeting. This is how they do it. And they build the Berg. The Berg is the mountain, you see.
And the mountain, of course, is the symbol of the pyramid. The pyramid is an artificial perfected mountain. They want
to perfect nature by completely recreating it scientifically. So, they give you this in your face, all the time. And we see
what appears to be some of the main characters, but we’re not seeing what’s in those characters.
Jackie: And say that, what you shared with us one night. In other words, and I was thinking about this earlier, that there
is, if you would call it, maybe another dimensional force that is at work here.
Alan: Definitely. As I say, you must look at today and all of the things which have been pushed since about 1960
onwards. And even though they started in the late 1800s, with this push. They really brought it out. And they’ve got
everybody into channeling. Everybody from psychologists and their patients, to even visualization, into, which is really
to help promote the next step of channeling. That’s what they’re really pushing. And channeling is bringing something
into you that doesn’t belong there. And I look, I look at these guys like the Kissingers and I see a very dark person. A
darkness around them.
Jackie: Well, remember you were telling us about that High Freemason you were talking to. And you saw.
Alan: Oh, I saw that. You see, I’d love, personally to be able, I really would, to be able to say this is all advanced
science, and they certainly have incredibly advanced sciences, beyond what we’re given even as science fiction, at a
high level, the higher matrix. But there’s no doubt. We’re up against something else here. These are entities which can
flit through them, and they bring them in. I didn’t want to believe it, until I saw it.
Jackie: And they welcome them.
Alan: Yeah, because with the high degrees, they take in higher entities. This is what they claim themselves. And at
first, I didn’t believe it, until I saw what was flitting through the guy. And it was unmistakable, yeah. And I would
love, I would dearly love to put it all down to just basic science and so on. And I do know, they can certainly put
thoughts in a person’s head through science, because they’ve been doing that since the 1800s. With Alexander Graham
Bell’s father, that’s what he was specializing in. And Alexander just took over the job, you know. So, so yeah, they
have advanced science, but there’s also this other added entity, which is above the human intellect. It certainly is
beyond the cunningness of the average individual.
Jackie: And beyond the physical world.
Alan: Yeah. And of course, they get a trade-off. They get a bit of longevity and tremendous health if they take these
entities on. But they also have to allow the entity to take on or to spend more time within them. Hell to an entity is
absence of the physical world.
Jackie: You mean hell to one of those entities.
Alan: That’s right. If you can imagine being a mind, say in one of those, what do they call them, those deprivation
tanks, where you float in water, desensitization. Well, if you were just a mind floating in space, and you couldn’t move
or go anywhere. You’re just a thought. You’re thinking. And you couldn’t feel, touch, smell, or anything, that would
be hell. And so, these characters want to inhabit the physical realm, because, for some reason or other, they’re basically
trapped within this realm. And because they’re trapped, they want to first conquer this realm, in order to break out of it.
But they want to create…
Jackie: Oh, you believe, in other words, are you saying that they believe, if they can conquer this realm, they can break
out of it?
Alan: That is right. Ultimately, through their own intellect – I mean, this is the boast down through the ages – they will
become gods over all the gods. In other words, break out and be above everything.
Jackie: What do they… Do they believe in a creator?
Alan: They certainly seem to. Something definitely has put them here. But it’s not the same as humans.
Jackie: But, I’m not talking about let’s say, what they call the fallen angels; what I mean is, the spirit or the energy, the
force, the intelligent thought that created, the spirit that, man, I know, it’s just hard to…
Alan: It’s hard to formulate, but they want to, because they are basically eternal, you might say, spiritually or whatever
you want to call this thing, this entity. They want a physical body, ultimately, to inhabit, which will also match it and
live forever. They want physical immortality. And that’s why we’ve been driving through science all this time. It’s to
create this for them. Not for the people here, but for them. Barring accidents, there’s no reason why they couldn’t.
And David Suzuki, who’s a geneticist, and he does all the nature programs for the Audubon Wildlife Society and all
these big societies. He said on national television here a few years ago. He said, we now have the ability to make a
person live to five hundred years if we want to.
Jackie: I believe that.
Alan: Because they can stop the aging gene from kicking in, the time gene.
Jackie: The time gene. And Alan, do you think that it is a probability or at least a possibility. I see it as a probability
that the human body did live for maybe hundreds of years in the past. And that the DNA was messed with, sort of like a
self-destruct mode or something that. Well, like in the Old Testament. It says that we are allotted fourscore and ten
years. So, that’s [ninety] years. And if we really live well, we might get eighty. Well, that’s in the Old Testament.
And yet, in those days, Methuselah and all of them were living for hundreds of years.
Alan: Again, you see, it’s mixed with allegory. It’s just like other writings to do with solar events, not real people. And
what they’re really telling you, you see, these are not really physical people. These are solar events. And of course,
over the course of the many thousands of years, such as the great zodiacal cycle, it’s the journeys of the sun and so on
down through the ages, and the ecliptic, as they go, as the earth wobbles. So, different constellations come into view
and dominate for a couple of thousand years. These are all to do with solar, stellar, and lunar cycles. They’re not real
people. And that’s what the elite have always known. They’ve given us this. They have wrapped truths about human
nature and their system in it.
Jackie: But, do you believe that in years gone by or eons gone by, that the human body lasted a lot longer than it does?
Alan: I think if it was not tampered with and injected, and our food was modified before we even knew it. We’re the
last to know how long this has been going on. Yeah, without all of this tampering with us. And I’m sure the disease
creation as well. Yeah, we could live a lot longer. And definitely healthier and fitter right up to the end.
Jackie: And think about this. As we live longer we become more, not intelligent, but more knowledgeable.
Alan: Wise, wise. You see, that’s the thing too. In old cultures, in tribal systems, before this infection came in, the
elderly people were held in the highest respect, because they had the wisdom that was necessary for survival of
everyone.
Jackie: And the elders, also, were caretakers of the young people, because they passed their wisdom on.
Alan: That was why it was so vital to split up the family and really remove the older people from the family, because
they passed down the knowledge. And they’ve been very successful at that.
Jackie: And today, of course, the elders are “useless eaters.”
Alan: According to the elite. And even the UN, they’ve said that, a good world citizen; now, world citizen was an
Illuminati term. That was the first time it was used, was by Weishaupt. And the Rockefeller, I’ve got tapes from
Rockefeller’s foundation, where he’s giving awards for world citizenship. This is no coincidence here. And it’s the
same bunch, you see, but long before Weishaupt as well.
Jackie: You know, we talked about this, a couple of weeks ago, or whatever. We have the New Order of Barbarians and
they talked about how important it is to break up the families, and especially the extended family. And I remember
when Effie was going to come to visit that one. Folks, listen to me what I’m saying. I’m saying this, well, of course,
our whole conversation is for our listeners, but this is so you can understand how they do what they do. Effie was going
to come to visit. She was going to get a senior citizens discount on her airline fare. And they said, that if she wanted a
senior citizens discount, she had to make her trip, her round trip, within four weeks. And when she told me that, I
thought about that, New Order of the Barbarians. And I said, Effie, why? Why does it matter to them how long you
stay? If you have an open round trip ticket, why do they care? Why do you have to come back in four weeks? Well, I
say, that it’s because they don’t want children with their grandparents. She called every other airline, and every single
airline had the same policy, Alan. And so, that means, if grandma is going to go to visit the family, you can’t stay more
than four weeks, or you don’t get the discount.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And that’s how they do it. It’s little things like this.
Alan: And you talk about the coordination between all airlines.
Jackie: All airlines.
Alan: There’s obviously coordination.
Jackie: And here we are, at the end of our hour. And this is, these are the times I wish we had two, or maybe three,
Alan. Folks, Alan and I will be back with you next Wednesday night. Thank you for being with us tonight. And Alan,
this has been lovely, and thank you tonight.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Thank you so much. Good Night.
May 31st, 2006
Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Alan, thanks for being here with us, tonight.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Memorial Day weekend. You know what’s so sad, is that, well, of course, on Memorial Day, I guess there’s just
a cause for celebration. I don’t know if people really stop to, too many people stop to think what it’s all about. But,
we’re supposed to remember the brave soldiers who fought to preserve our freedom and our liberty. Our freedom, Alan.
Alan: The agenda.
Jackie: Yeah, the agenda. And that’s sad.
Alan: I know. When they have the Remembrance Day here, and everywhere else in the Commonwealth countries, I
look at all these old men with their uniforms. Well, they wear a blazer and a little hat, and they have all their medals on.
And when they’re spoken to, they have never really studied up on anything after the war, World War II. And the same
propaganda they were fed then, they repeat it verbatim. It’s quite amazing to see how it’s never changed with them.
Because they didn’t realize they were bringing in the United Nations.
Jackie: And actually, the United Nations was already at work, wasn’t it?
Alan: In fact, they had it on past newsreels, during World War II, and sometimes you’ll see old re-runs and stuff, where
actually the narrator will actually call it the United Nations.
Jackie: Oh, they make a mistake, you mean.
Alan: Not really. I mean, they signed that deal in what, 1941.
Jackie: Sometime or other, but the thing that I remember specifically, well, not then, of course, but in Major Jordan’s
diary. And it was, he had, Major Jordan had volunteered. He was a business man. He was a World War I veteran. And
he was assigned to United Nations Depot 84, something like that in an airport in New Jersey, Alan. And that was, that
was during the war. And that was where they did so many, that is where they sent so much over to Russia, or to the
Soviet Union, I should say.
Alan: From the base in Alaska.
Jackie: Right, under the Lend-Lease Act.
Alan: Well when you lent to Russia, it was like lending a cigarette to somebody.
Jackie: Yeah, right. Yes. Actually it was a Lend-Lease Act, was supposed to be lending to Britain, I believe it was.
Alan: Oh, they did a deal with Stalin too, though.
Jackie: But it wasn’t known. The deal wasn’t known. The deal with Stalin wasn’t known.
Alan: And what’s interesting too, is that there was a documentary on some ship that was a high-tech ship, a private ship
that was looking for ships sunk on the route from the US to Britain, to Greenland, etc, all on the way to the Soviet
Union. And what it was, it said that they were carrying bullion, gold bullion to the Soviet Union, during WWII, and
some of them sank or were hit by subs’ torpedoes. And they actually found one. And they did manage to get a lot of
the gold up. And there was tons and tons and crates of gold bars. Now, what was the Soviet Union doing with all this
gold, when they didn’t need gold within Russia? You know.
Jackie: Right. And on top of that, they sent the printing presses and the paper over, of the US Treasuries so that they
could print and draw directly from the US Treasury. The printing presses and the paper. And then there was all of the
information for the bomb, along with all the materials necessary to build it.
Alan: Well, I don’t think they even had to sneak it in. I used to wonder about the supposed threat of Communism. And
every book that you read, because it was never taught in school, really, you had to go into libraries to find out what
Communism was. And supposedly, all these authorized historians were telling you that the Cold War was going to be
fought with high technology and science. And whoever had the height of science would be the victor. And yet, every
year in Britain, you’d read in the newspapers at the annual meeting, where all the West’s top scientists were going over
to Russia for their meeting. So, you would never allow your top scientists to go over to an enemy’s camp if you
depended on those scientists for secrecy, it’s impossible. So the whole thing was an utter farce.
Jackie: Yes, it was, but it was pretty scary to people. It was scary to people that didn’t know.
Alan: Yeah, and you know, I got an email from someone in Texas, who was talking about the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Jackie: Alan, I was just thinking about that. That was the same thing. Go ahead, I’m sorry.
Alan: And he said he was at school then, he says. And you know, they got all their inoculations, and then they were
told, oh, my goodness, you might get nuked any time. And the practice drills of hiding under their tables in the school,
and all this kind of stuff, only to find out years later, the supposed missiles in Cuba were dummies. I mean, you know.
It’s all to do with terrorizing the public.
Jackie: Exactly. And I can recall that time. And I can recall that throughout every day you were, you were almost
flinching, expecting what they were saying was going to happen, if the Soviet Union didn’t back off. It was a very, very
frightening time, and of course, we all breathed a sigh of relief when it was over.
Alan: When the wall came tumbling down, just by magic though. And so, you know the whole thing was just the
antithesis, you know. And now we’re going into the synthesis, and that was the whole, that’s why it was set up in the
first place. They couldn’t even feed themselves during the whole Cold War.
Jackie: You mean the Soviets?
Alan: I mean, Canada and the States used to put bids in every year, all the farmers, the biggest farmers for grain
shipments to the Soviet Union. And in fact, their economy depended upon it. And they got subsidies from governments
and so on to do so. So, no, they couldn’t even make a good television set, you know.
Jackie: Well, yes. I’ve got a book here by W. Cleon Skousen, it’s called The Naked Communist, and basically, the
evidence there abounds that if it hadn’t have been for all of the aid that came over from the ‘republic’, it would have
died its own death.
Alan: Yes, it would have.
Jackie: Communism would have, the whole thing would have just collapsed.
Alan: And right from the beginning, the West was heavily involved with different fund raisers, etc, and was hand in
glove with government, to keep the whole Communist regime going, or Bolshevist from the beginning. And they used
to send, you know, ships over with food, clothing, shoes, you name it. Big, big drive.
Jackie: I wonder how the people, people were a little… They didn’t know the whole story, of course, but I can
remember when I was real little, there was a co-op grocery store, up on the highway, near that housing project we lived
in. And I can remember my dad saying, they wouldn’t even go into the store, it’s a bunch of G.D. Communists, running
the thing. And you heard the word Communist quite a bit.
Alan: Well, we didn’t get anything really in Britain, the occasional little blurb in the paper, when you find out that your
top MI5 and MI6 guys were defecting to the Soviet, until it became a boring routine. And that’s when I caught on to the
fact that they were hand in glove with each other. They were all one and the same company. And during the ’60s, there
was four guys who defected, top agents of Britain. Kim Philby was I think the last one. And he basically was put in
charge of the KGB at one point, this guy from Britain.
Jackie: You mean, he defected to the Soviet Union.
Alan: Yeah, they were on the trail, and MI5 and MI6, they were on the trail of… They knew there was a bunch of, all
this information was going right to Russia, right to the Soviets. And eventually as they came down on each one of these
men over a period of a couple of years, somebody tipped them off from the top and they absconded off to the Soviet
Union. And The Fifth Man, the book called TheFifth Man, they knew there was a fifth man there somewhere, and it
was written about Baron Rothschild, and he was claimed to be the fifth man. And he was one of the exceptions to the
Rothschild family. He was a scientist during WWII, and after WWII he was put in charge of the main security agencies
of Britain, to fight the Bolsheviks or the Communists. And he was the only guy who could be tipping off these
particular agents. So, a book came out about him years later, and it’s called TheFifth Man.
Jackie: Now, who were the four other men?
Alan: Oh, one was Blake. He came from, he was recruited from, they all had phony names. And of course, MI6 just
couldn’t find that out. But they’d all been trained at Cambridge University. That was the common denominator. And
they were being trained. Cambridge was set up basically, always, to train the elite’s offspring to run the system, the old
empire. And each one was being trained at the University, just like Lawrence of Arabia. He was picked as a young boy
and sent there and trained in Aramaic, etc. So, these guys were the same. They were trained in the supposed espionage
system. And then they went straight into MI5 or MI6. But Philby eventually ended up as the head of the KGB at one
point. The guy who was MI5 and MI6. So, it’s ludicrous to think that we’re separate, and that’s the conclusion you
come to, because the only people who knew that a raid was going to take place on any agent, was put in two boxes at the
end of the night, and delivered straight to their destination. One of the boxes went to the Queen. And the other one
went to the head of MI6.
Jackie: Now, what was the difference between MI5 and MI6?
Alan: My 5 is the five points of Masonry. But it’s internal. It’s like the FBI.
Jackie: Are they two separate?
Alan: They’re intertwined, obviously. The FBI would be the equivalent of MI5.
Jackie: What does MI stand for?
Alan: Oh, it’s got about ten different explanations, but it’s even harder to get it yet, what exactly it stands for. There’s
official ones, then semi-official, then the real ones.
Jackie: Well, give us one of them.
Alan: Well, you go into Master Instructor, and Masonic this and Masonic that Institute. Because everybody in it,
according to Peter Wright that belonged to it, he wrote about it. In fact, he wrote about it and Thatcher brought him into
court, because he was giving out information that they didn’t want disclosed. And Peter Wright, who was not a Mason,
was into a… it’s very much like the James Bond thing, where Miss Moneypenny gives you all your certificates and so
on. And the woman who was in charge of this part said, you’re a Mason, of course. And Peter Wright said, no. She
says, well, you’ve got to be a Mason. Everybody here is a Mason. And he wrote about that in his book. And in fact,
Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher eventually brought him up to court, because of his second book. It was called the ABC of
Spy Catching. And they confiscated all the second books and pulped them. They pulped the whole lot of them. He was
in High Court in England for that.
Jackie: So, you’re saying, in order to be a MI5 or MI6, they had to be Freemasons.
Alan: Yeah, that was the rule. He was an exception because he was an electronics expert in specific areas, and they
needed him in the organization. His father was a Mason. He tells you about that. But everybody in it was a Mason.
And then you jump to Leon Trotsky, and then you read his Memoirs, and Trotsky talks about how he joined
Freemasonry while in prison. And he started to write books on Masonry, praising it. And even when he was getting
escorted out of Russia, by the police, he said, my escorts went through three different borders in countries by giving
Masonic signs to the guards. So, everything is Freemasonry.
Jackie: I know. I’ve said this before, talking about MI5, it’s on my mind, so I wanted to say this for maybe our newer
listeners. John Coleman, he wrote the book.
Alan: 300.
Jackie: Yeah, The Committee of 300. And I want our listeners to know this. First of all, I find that’s interesting,
because then we would, could presume that probably at least, most probably, he’s a High Freemason. But in his book,
The Committee of 300, I have the first edition of the book. And in that book, he said, he actually said that he had been
with MI5, and that that’s why he had access to as much information as he had. And he also said that in the elite corp,
most every one of them are homosexuals. Okay? Effie came to visit and she brought me the book. But she had the
third edition. And I said, well, Effie, I already have it. And then I got to wondering, would there be any edits made
since that book first came out. And sure enough, we sat down, I read aloud, she followed along, just the introduction.
And in the first edition, it was what I said there was. In hers, in the third edition, he didn’t mention MI5. He said,
because of the nature of his work, that he had access to a lot of inside information, and there was not a peep in there
about the sexual preferences of the elite.
Alan: Well, you know, the CBC, I think it was the BBC maybe, did a documentary on one of these defectors of the 60s,
and that was Philby, you know. And sure enough, he had been recruited again at Cambridge I think it was. All of his
buddies at the top there were homosexuals. He was one too. And they displayed it fully in their documentary. And he
was picked up and he was doing the double agent thing, working for MI6 and working for the Soviets at the same time.
And I think that was the deal at the top. It was to make sure that nothing did go wrong by somebody who wasn’t in the
know. It was to make sure that they were both equally informed at the top. That’s the conclusion I came to.
Jackie: I lost that.
Alan: Well, you see, the boys at the bottom have to believe everything is real as well. And they have all these different
groups in their silos and nuclear bunkers and all this kind of stuff, doing drills, yada-yada-ya. And they’ve got to believe
it’s all real. So, you have to have a group at the top that belong to both sides, if you want to manage them both. It’s the
only way you could keep it all under wraps, you see. And that’s the conclusion I came to. And then when that book
came out called The Fifth Man, on Victor Rothschild, it really explained so much. Because really, even most of the
defectors, that they were on the trail of, while in Britain before they defected, they’d all been lodgers in Victor
Rothschild and his wife’s house when they were students. You know. So Victor Rothschild, he was the guy that was
passing all the high-level information over to the Soviets and being a scientist himself, he was one of the main
characters involved in the Porton Down LSD and bacterial experiments. That was his job. He was a scientist first of all.
It wasn’t until much later that he went back into the banking system.
Jackie: I would imagine that they’re never really very far away from the banking business.
Alan: It’s essential. The whole system of what they call civilization and what we think is normalcy revolves around
economics. And the banking system has always been paramount in economics. Every Prime Minister has to go to the
banker first, cap in hand, to make sure that he’s going to get all his loans. So that’s really how it works. And even Karl
Marx, that’s given way too much acclaim, because his name wasn’t put on the Communist Manifesto for years later.
Karl Marx said the same thing, that every system that’s ever existed in civilization has evolved around the economics
system.
Jackie: Well, yes it has. When wasn’t there one, Alan?
Alan: Well, definitely pre-Sumer anyway. You know. We know that. And probably pre-Hurrian as they call them
now, the people before Sumer. Because even they were known to be traders that traveled vast areas.
Jackie: Where did the Hurrians live?
Alan: They covered the same area, all the way from at least Egypt, all the way to China, they were doing trading. And
they’re still unearthing tons yet in archeology in the people who predated the Sumerians. So, who knows. See, we’re
far, far older than we’ve been told. The human race is far, far older. And of course, it was Darwin who was brought up
front to make us believe we were all scraping our knuckles along the jungle floor not too long ago. And that was to
throw us off the track that people have been around for maybe even millions of years.
Jackie: Well, and then we have the rabbis, Pharisees, I guess. Today they call them rabbis that claim to know the exact
date and time. Now, Alan, even for somebody to say that sounds so ridiculous. There wasn’t, before there was creation,
if you would, because they say that it was 6,000 years ago, there was no date. There was no time. And they say they
know the exact date and time that the world was created.
Alan: Yeah, and the same thing happened with the Christians with Bishop Usher. He was the guy that tied up all the
generations that came to the same conclusion, about 4,500 BC, he brought up that. And it’s utter, utter rubbish, of
course. Because you go to Peru and see these ancient walls, etc, of Neolithic, prehistoric cultures, and all over the
planet for that matter, and you’re astounded by the kind of building projects that went on, oh, maybe 10,000 BC, maybe
20,000 BC, maybe 50,000 BC, you know.
Jackie: Well, and there was Atlantis.
Alan: Yeah, Atlantis. And no doubt many other.
Jackie: Lemuria. Do you think that there’s truth in the continent of Lemuria?
Alan: Not the way it’s said today. There’s no doubt that there was huge land tracts off South America, that are under
the ocean. That can be verified by divers. And not just there, I mean, all over the planet, actually. You’ll find these
places. They even took shots of old ancient villages in the English channels and in the North Sea, going all the way to
Norway. And they found…
Jackie: So, when you say, not the way it’s chalked up today, what do you mean by that?
Alan: Well, since about the 1800s, they had this big outpouring of books by High Masons to create a new type of
culture, put in lots of mysticism and things that grab the imagination. And Weishaupt talked about it in his own
writings, they would do this. And it was almost a way of creating an interest in what we today would call the New Age.
Jackie: Well, are you saying that in other words, that I believe that another name for it, they referred to it as the Land of
Mu or something.
Alan: Yeah, but they can give all the differences, you know.
Jackie: Right. I hear what you’re saying, but allegedly that Lemuria went under the ocean before Atlantis even existed,
or do they say that they co-existed and then Lemuria went under and then Atlantis.
Alan: I think if you took even the Sumerian tablets, you see, it’s all a toss-up between part myth, part history. It’s all
mixed together. Remember, the ancients too, they didn’t really take the track of time in calendar as we do. I mean,
even in ancient Egypt, you had the reigns of the Pharaohs, and so a new era began with each pharaoh. So, it wasn’t like
AD so-and-so or BC. So, it’s very confusing. But we do know from the writings of even the Sumerians, they did say at
one time, according to their legends, and their own mythologies, great upheavals had happened on the Earth, and that
whole continents had sunk, while new ones arose out of the sea. So, it was big tectonic shaking up going on at one
point, for sure. And then we do have the histories again, of the Greeks, the ancient Greeks who do talk about…
Jackie: Atlantis.
Alan: Well, the whole area in the Mediterranean that today we have the remnants, including Terra, where a massive
volcano, you know, maybe hundreds and hundreds of miles of a land mass sank. And now we have these little
disjointed islands around the perimeter.
Jackie: Right. Will you hold that thought? We have to take a break here. And we’ll be back right after this. But don’t
lose your train of thought, okay. Okay, folks, we’ll be back with Alan, Alan Watt in just a couple of minutes. Stay with
us.
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Jackie: Okay, we’re back. Alan, you were talking about the land masses. I was going to ask you about that, if the
Greeks had any tales about that.
Alan: They had records of huge tidal waves coming in, when that whole area went under water in the Mediterranean
basically, leaving the scattered islands in its wake, basically, which were on the outskirts of it.
Jackie: Now, where is this?
Alan: That’s, if you look up Terra, T-E-R-R-A, that’s the main island where they’ve found all the frescoes of this very
wealthy civilization that existed there at one time. Every bedroom that they’ve found, and every room in fact had handpainted
frescoes from top to bottom. Lots of work went into all these places. And they know that they were very big
merchants as well. They probably ran the ancient system. And even the Egyptians had records of tidal waves and other
countries as well, about the same area.
Jackie: Is this concurrent with what Immanuel Velikovsky wrote?
Alan: Well, he was more on a global catastrophe.
Jackie: Yeah, his was, wasn’t it?
Alan: And yet sure enough, we’ve had big impacts with big, huge meteors coming in, meteorites, and they’ve found
craters on different parts of the planet, which could definitely have caused certain phenomena across the whole planet.
And you’ve also had the occasional place sinking here and there at the same time, or later or before, as it still happens
today, you know. The volcanoes are always coming up and the other ones are going down in the sea. So, we always
forget that we have an incredible lava core here, that’s always trying to get out.
Jackie: Well, you’ve always taken quite a lot of stock in Velikovsky’s writings. Well, I mean, at least in, was it Worlds
in Upheaval, was it?
Alan: Collision.
Jackie: Worlds in Collision. Yeah.
Alan: I don’t go with all his stuff. I mean, he still is speculating to an extent as to what caused it. Was it a comet
coming past? That’s a possibility. A comet close enough would definitely affect the gravity, and even the spin or
rotation of the earth. Huge meteor clusters would do the same. You’d have the burning parts falling across the sky.
And also you have to decipher the way that the Egyptians wrote about things, because they had a highly imaginative
way of describing every catastrophe, even local, you know. And it was a natural form of almost bewailing unfortunate
events. They would go off into the extremes to describe them. But they did say that it was so hot that as these burning
parts fell from the sky, that even some of the cattle were hit and went on fire. You know. So all you can do is take it for
what it’s worth. We just don’t know.
Jackie: Right. That is one of the books that you recommended quite a bit.
Alan: Yeah, I mean, it was definitely good bits and pieces of history, wrapped up in there. But again, the rest of it is
possible.
Jackie: I don’t know what the rest of it is though.
Alan: There’s so many different things he brings in there which may or may not have happened. And he was trying
really to validate a history of Israel in his books.
Jackie: Okay, well, the other books that he wrote, I noticed that. But in Worlds in Collision, the only thing that I saw,
well, that I recall, was that he said that according to the rabbinical writings, that when that happened, especially it was
referring to the time when they said that the sun didn’t shine for, it was total darkness for three days. And of course, all
this happened, according to the Bible when all these curses that Jehovah was bringing down upon the Egyptians. The
children of Israel, the chosen, it didn’t occur to them. It didn’t happen to them. And according to Velikovsky in his
book, the writings, the rabbinical writings say that 49 out of 50 of them were killed, and that it wasn’t just the Israelites
leaving that area, it was everybody, because they were trying to find out where the heck that they were or what direction
the sun was coming up, etc.
Alan: And also as they were coming out, the so-called invaders were supposedly coming in, and it’s all terribly
confusing. I think he stretched it a bit there, to be honest with you. I mean, the whole Bible, there’s so much myth in
the Bible that when you, for instance, you know the one with Isaac talked to the Philistine King, you know, who fancied
his wife. And he told him that was his sister. And the thing is, it’s all myth. It was pretty common in those days to put
those kinds of stories out in legends and myths and so on, because this King of the Philistines did not speak—I mean
what language did they speak? because the Philistines were a non-Semitic people. They spoke a different language
altogether. So, yeah, I mean what language would they even converse in? And then they found out that through the
archaeologists, they’re still digging things up all the time, that the Philistines didn’t move in there until about 1200 BC.
And of course the story of the founder of this whole thing was supposed to be much, much earlier. So, it throws it all
out the window.
Jackie: Yes, yes. Well, the thing I noticed, you had mentioned that it gave credence to the Bible stories and it did.
That’s exactly what it did. As though there really were a group of chosen people over there, and da-da-da-da-da. You
know.
Alan: Well, I think to be honest, when it comes to religion, everybody who’s born into a culture, or a group, is conned.
I really do.
Jackie: You think what?
Alan: That everyone born into a group or a religion, regardless of what you’re given, I think everyone has been had.
Jackie: Well, of course, Alan.
Alan: And that’s been the standard technique for many, many thousands of years. When you read about how the Arians
went into India, and all this Arian stuff is not Germanic. It’s supposed to be the bunch who went into India, that the
Brahmans are now descended from. It’s well documented what they did there. They would study the local populations.
Now there were so many different tribes and different cultures within India, and different languages, they studied them,
and they put out Princes out, just like the feudal system of the Normans later on. And they studied the people, and they
made up a religion for that specific people. And you wouldn’t believe how accurately they understood the psychology
of the people, and they knew exactly what kind of religion to give the locals. It’s fantastic. And then they had them all
warring with each other down through the ages when it suited them. And this has been going on forever.
Jackie: Well, when you take a look at the so-called Reformation. Well, they brought all the lies right down into the
other religions.
Alan: Yeah, because they had to keep it going. Religion has been a great tool, right up until the present time. And it’s
just phenomenal to realize that even Blavatsky in the 1800s was sent out there to create the next religion, the New Age
religion for the world, to blend Christianity and Hinduism together for the upcoming new century and new age. And
then you watch it explode in the 60s and be pushed from the top down through music and movies and novels and books.
And here it’s out there now, and then Gorbachev writes his book, Towards a New Beginning, you know, in civilization,
telling you that they’re creating, I am part of it, he says, and we are creating a new religion for the world, and it must be
based on Earth worship. And earlier on in the book he tells you that he’s an atheist. So, it’s the same old ploy they’re
using over and over again. It’s fascinating to see them pull it off. They work in centuries. They plan centuries ahead.
Jackie: I think the overall plan was probably, you know, they came up with that a long time ago.
Alan: I’m sure.
Jackie: And it seems to me that every hundred years or so, they sit down, and according to some things, you know, that
you read, they sit down, and they see how they’re coming along.
Alan: They evaluate.
Jackie: Yes. And they plan for the next century.
Alan: And even when I looked at the old Communist system, if they looked at the water supply and say the sewage
supply, the road interconnections between cities, each one was given a designated time period. So they had Five Year
Plans for this, Ten Year Plans for this, and even Hundred Year Plans for other things. And then you see the exact same
formula in the United Nations. The exact same formula is used in the United Nations. So, the only way that you can be
certain of pulling it off is to alter the culture. And you’ve got a hundred years or more to do it. So, it’s quite easy to do
it when you have all the money in the world and all the think tanks at your disposal. You can easily market ideas to the
public. It’s like George Bush Sr. said, when he was talking about the New World Order in his first speech on September
the 11th, of course, 1990. And then he repeated it on September the 11th, 1991. And he said, it’s not just a New World
Order, it’s a big idea. And sure enough, they always export and market the ideas into our heads, our subconscious,
through advertising and magazines and movies and that’s how it’s all done. It’s predictive programming.
Jackie: I was talking to somebody recently, who said that anybody, anybody who believes that this is a plan, you know,
by man, has got to be brain dead. I said, oh, well, I guess Alan Watt is brain dead too. And he says, well, you know, he
kind of backtracked a little, but basically, what it was was, you know, trying to confirm that what’s in the Bible was
prophecy and it was the divine inspired word of God.
Alan: Well, you see, God is really playing chess with himself. He’s got the black and the white there, you see, the chess
board, and he planned it all ahead of time, and he knows who’s going to win. I mean, it’s so ridiculous. And what I
hear is from Christians, who are all sincere about it, because they’ve been totally trained in this belief, you see. It’s
Plato’s cave. It’s all you know. So, all your conclusions will come from that cave. That’s how it works. That’s how
Plato described it 2300 years ago. And here’s God, who’s planned everything ahead of time, which is predestination.
Which must mean too that God would also know who’s going to get saved and who won’t, before they’re even born,
you see. Which tends to make you think, it doesn’t matter what I do, I’m doing it anyway, because it’s predicted that
way. And then they bring all these famines and plagues and horrors and wars and atrocities upon you, and maybe, just
maybe, if he’s preordained you to live, you will live. And don’t worry about all these horrible things, because he’s got
it all under control anyway. I mean, this is the most amazing mind bender you could ever imagine. It’s incredible. It’s
Orwell’s doublethink. God is good. He does nasty things, and evil things, but he’s good. And of course, as the Masons
knew, and they even wrote poems about it, that Jehovah, Jove, by George, it’s the same thing.
Jackie: Jehovah.
Alan: And that’s what they mean by ages. You see, the old age, the ancient age, the Golden Age, as they’re always
tongue-in-cheek referring to, was the time of Saturn. And Saturn, of course was the father of all the gods. And the
Greeks called him Chronos. And the Romans just called him Saturn. And his offspring that took over, his son, the son
of God took over for the next age. That was the Christian Age. That was Jupiter, which is also called Jove.
Jackie: Jupiter, Jove, and Jehovah.
Alan: That’s right. So, now we’re going into the next age, you see. And that’s the Age of Aquarius. So, these are all
ages, written by a mystery religion behind all the religions and guiding them all to the conclusion. So, you can find this
all down through history. We are manipulated by those that know.
Jackie: We had a conversation about, well, what you and I were talking about last Wednesday, because I was being told
that, you know, we are going to go into this, and they are going to nuke the cities, and we, I tried to just suggest, you
know, that if you don’t have a crystal ball, for it to say that it’s definitely going to happen, and the power of the spoken
word, and basically he said, just because I say something doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. And then he agreed with
what I was saying. And I said, well, then you obviously don’t believe that you have that same power within you. Oh,
yes I do. But just because I say what’s going to happen doesn’t mean that I’m helping them bring their plan in. And
when you look at how slick they are, Alan, knowing that themselves, I mean, the creatures, you know, that planned all
this. They know it, as you said. So, they make the religions, and they get people actually praying for it to happen.
Alan: And you know, you build up the stress enough, as I mentioned before in one of the programs, we talked about the
Royal Institute of International Affairs and these big boys owned the newspapers in England, sat at a table deciding to
terrify the British public and say that Hitler who had just taken over Germany was going to gas the whole of Britain, you
know. And for two or three years it was just, it was terrors coming, horrors coming, death from the air, until the public
breathed a sigh of relief when the war started because now something was actually happening. And that’s the same
technique that’s been used today. And all these fools that go around parroting the disinformation that’s put out there to
terrify them, this is a Pavlovian technique of shocking the dog, you see. Eventually the dog gets shocked in the corner.
He gets shocked in the middle of the room. He gets shocked on the other side of the room. It doesn’t know where to sit.
It just sits and shakes. And that’s mental breakdown. That’s when you’re easily controlled. And that’s what they’re
doing to the public right now. And people should know better than to pass this nonsense around. Because if anything
did happen, you’re not going to be told about it.
Jackie: What do you mean, Alan?
Alan: They would just do it.
Jackie: Oh, right. Like they did on September 11th.
Alan: The public, like Francis Bacon said and John Dee, but Francis Bacon wrote about it on his advice to the king. He
said, it’s best that people never know the true motives of government. In other words, you keep everything secret. So,
the public are the last to be told any truth. So, when all this stuff is coming out, oh, gee whiz, there’s a nuke in a ship
off New York Harbor, and these idiots pass all this stuff around, it never dawns where all this info is coming from. It’s
the disinformation guys at the top that want you to be terrified and want you to terrify others. When you’re terrified,
you cannot think straight. It’s a simple technique used for thousands of years. These are sciences. Sciences. And here
they are putting out the bird flu programs, the docudramas, to terrify the public that they just know the bird flu is going
to get us all this fall.
Jackie: Well, if you recall, they said it was coming this spring.
Alan: That’s right. I did see one going overhead and it was sneezing.
Jackie: A bird.
Alan: It was sneezing.
Jackie: Well, here it comes.
Alan: Definitely.
Jackie: But have they changed their story now?
Alan: Well, now it’s coming in the fall, now. But it still has to make the jump between animal to man and then man to
man, you see. And out of all the thousand directions it could go, they just know it’s going take this one pass.
Jackie: Sometimes do you just get feeling weary, Alan?
Alan: I’ll tell you what it is. I get so many calls from people, who have followed all the nonsense out there, including
all the Annunaki and the Serpent People, and everything else all wrapped into one. And they’re nervous wrecks. Some
of these people have been following the whole New Age movement for thirty-odd years or more. They’ve been to every
guru, every group that they’ve paid money to, and they’re totally burned out, and totally confused.
Jackie: When you’re talking with them do you emphasize too though that there’s a lot of truth in what they call, you
know, the New Age Movement? In other words, there’s truth in there.
Alan: I don’t even go there with them. And I’ll tell you why. See, they parrot, it’s like Lenin said, he says, we shall win
by slogans. The repetition of slogans. And when you’re talking trying to deprogram people who have been right into
mind control, you’re going to hear the same slogans coming out of their mouth as though they’re all clones of each other
the world over. Because all of these groups that they’ve been to, meditation schools, they’re all run by the same bunch
at the top. And they just repeat their indoctrinations to you. So, to deprogram, you can’t encourage them at the same
time, you see. Maybe once you’ve deprogrammed them you can touch on something like that, but when you’re trying to
deprogram, and they’ve phoned you for help, you know. They’ve phoned you up for help, because some of them have
been around this incredible roller coaster of thirty-odd years or forty years, and they’ve spent every penny trying to get
immortality. People should realize that immortality means that I’m Mortal. Huh? Think about it. Right. And here’s
all these people.
Jackie: But when you say, trying to get immortality, do they mean on this earth?
Alan: Some of them do, some of them are. In fact, that’s the biggest fad that’s been going on through the New Age
Movement for years now. And there’s people who live in streets and cities and so on who truly believe that if you eat
all the right stuff and do all the right exercises and get the right chakras going, they can live forever.
Jackie: Isn’t that a shame that somebody would want to live in this world forever, Alan?
Alan: Well, it gives you a clue about the elite. Because they’re using science in the hope that they can do it for
themselves. And there you have people at the bottom, if they had the money, they would be doing the same things as
the elite.
Jackie: Remember Steve Aim? Well, just before he really kind of blew it, he had gotten really going into religion. I
mean, not becoming “religious”, but he said, he said there had to be something that keeps people so brain dead. And we
talked, and it was just before he went to prison. But he said, Jackie, he was telling me some of the stuff that he had dug
up. And he said, I’m going to say something, you’re going to think I’m nuts, but he said, I have a feeling that some of
these creatures have been around here for hundreds of years. And he said, I mean it. I mean, not coming back from
another, you know, into another lifetime, but that they have not immortality. I was going to say immorality. They have
attained that, haven’t they? But that he had a feeling that some of them had been around that long. What are your
thoughts on that?
Alan: Well, I know they have life extension. And even the Rosicrucians in their early books, and if you are lucky
enough you can get an original for a lot of bucks, the early Rosicrucian writings. And that was a sort of precursor.
They brought in Freemasonry later on. They did mention that those that worked towards this great work would be given
superior medicine, etc, and a longer life. They did mention that at the beginning. And the sciences as I say, there’s
three levels of this Matrix here. We’re on the bottom level. From Professorship down, that’s the bottom level of reality
as far as the sciences go. And all the media and magazines out there are meant to reinforce the fact that you’re on the
cutting edge. And when you believe that lie, it never dawns on you that they’ve got things way ahead of what they tell
you. And we know, as I say that Nick Begich with the showing of those mind control gizmos, the CIA had back in the
1950s, a whole table full of them, and they fit into your pockets, the size of a pack of cigarettes, and they had to be solid
state before the world even heard the term solid state. And they could literally put thoughts right into your head. So
that was the mid level. That was the middle level, because the controllers never give even their highest weapons to their
helpers. So, that was the middle level of technology. Simultaneously, you’ve got the BBC showing flying saucers
coming out the air force hangers in Area 51 in the 70s.
Jackie: Alan, I’m going to interrupt you here. We’re out of time. Let our listeners know how they can find you.
Alan: Just punch in, .com, and see the website and download lots of stuff for free.
Jackie: Yeah, and your videos.
Alan: Yeah, and I’m working on one right now and the next video will go into the occult, and it’s going to be pretty
good.
Jackie: Good. Alright, well thanks for being with us, Alan. We’ll talk to you next week,
Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: And ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here.
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September 13th, 2006
Alan Watt (Solo) on
“Sweet Liberty”
Alan Watt: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is Alan Watt, from Canada. And I’m standing in for Jackie,
tonight. She called me up about half an hour ago, so there’s nothing really prepared to talk about, except that we don’t
really need anything to prepare us, because we’re flying along on an agenda, which has all the stops out. And it’s an old
agenda. Very, very old. You can read about it in the 1800s with Marx and others. And even further back in the 1700s
with the French Revolution and the authors that came forth to help to push the Revolution forward. And all the
followers, of course, always follow the great leaders in every era, every age of society. And something obviously is
being turned up at the moment. We know that we’re already amalgamated as a continent, the American Continent.
That’s a done deal. We’re just the last to know; the legalities, the negotiations, the formulas for even putting the legal
systems together to equalize them, all the moneyed systems. All of these things have already been worked upon. The
dollar value of the US and Canada will gradually come down to a dollar par. And that will happen in the final days, for
the amalgamation. By then, most people won’t care.
The majority of the public really, don’t really care about what happens in their own life, as long as their personal little
world around them doesn’t change too much too quickly. They don’t seem to notice, almost. It’s as though government
had nothing to do with them. And, in a sense, they’re right, because government, as we’re given it, really does have
nothing to do with us. We are at the low end of the scale. We’re the cattle. It’s never been any different, in any era. It
was far more blatant in ancient times when they wrote about it, and tortured slaves for fun and entertainment when they
were bored at parties. They did the same thing in the Middle Ages, when the plagues were rampaging through Europe,
and the Lords and all their cousins, were holed up in castles, they would torture prisoners, just to pass the time. And
nothing really changes in society. They can always find the torturers, from the dregs of society, to do their bidding for
them. Or give them a uniform, and they’ll do it for them, as long as they get paid. So, we have the defects in society,
that are useful tools, useful idiots to the elite in all ages.
Now, of course, they’re building up something. A crisis, you might say, within the Americas. Part of it is to cause
confusion, which is a great tool to use, as you’re going through very big changes. Confusion and the threat of terror, the
oldest trick in the book, which the ancient Caesars used to use. Terrify the public, claim there’s terrorism everywhere,
or someone is threatening the king’s life, the Emperor’s life. And the spies are everywhere, amongst you the people,
and then the army is turned loose upon the public. And the public give up all their rights for safety, and simply hope
that they don’t find out that they’re the terrorists, because it could be anybody, if your thoughts happen to be incorrect.
So, nothing changes.
And we have all the talking heads on television, to give the majority of the public their opinions, which are never
questioned thereafter. The public don’t question anything, the vast majority of the public. That’s why they’re called the
public. And PO and PU in Masonry, are the lowest forms of life. That’s why you have archives for the elite, of real
history, real sciences, and you have public libraries for the people and police to police you, the common person, the
common man and woman.
They’re building up to something now. It’s almost as though they want a reaction within the United States. And that
might be exactly what they’re after. One of the bigwigs in charge of the US Air Force recently was talking about using
non-lethal weaponry on the public, and he made a strange statement that, well, we have to use it on the public, because
we’ll be using it in warfare situations too, and we’d rather know what it does exactly, before we’d use it on an enemy.
Well, what are you? You’re the guinea pigs. And even to say that and have it published is rather startling, because
generally they do things to the public and never tell them until fifty years later. And it’s even more startling, because
they’ve already used non-lethal weaponry on the public at demonstrations. They’ve tested all that stuff out. So, it
seems to be that they’re goading those who are waking up, into actually doing something.
And the mob, who react, in all ages, albeit for the right reasons, they react. They have never thought anything through.
They’re disorganized. They have no clear view of where they’re even going. I hear people say, “We can get America
back.” And I keep telling them, you never had it in the first place. What part of the bankers’ system do you want to go
back to? What period, what era, what depression? The twenties and thirties, of the 1920s and ’30s, that wasn’t the first
depression. They had three manufactured depressions in the latter part of the 1800s, when a coterie of bankers got
together and collapsed the economy by pulling all their gold.
So, how can you go back to something which was never yours? And just like today, when you’re born into a system,
and your parents can’t tell you, or don’t know to tell you that it’s all manufactured, your reality, everything you accept
as normal is not normal at all. It was designed that way. Planned that way, by experts. And it’s happened in every
single generation and era. The big difference today, and since the invention of the radio and television, is that with
these particular tools, we are overloaded with data. And, in amongst all the data, we have music, entertainment of all
kinds, to put us into this surrealistic state, where everything is mixed together; fact, fiction, fantasy, surrealism, and a
little bit of truth, until you can’t discern what is what anymore. Even on your major media, you have entertainment and
the stars and what movies are coming out. That’s your news.
Everything about Hollywood and the stars is just drama dished up to the public, who love to gossip about affairs and all
of this kind of stuff. And a hundred years ago, a hundred and fifty years ago, and for hundreds of years before that, they
dished out the same drama about kings and queens, and their princes and princesses, and who wasn’t getting along too
well, and who’s unfaithful to whom. This is drama dished out to the public. And with all their worries and their own
personal problems, the public jump on it, and beat it to death, as though it really mattered. Distractions.
So we’re truly, incredibly confused when we’re brought up in a system of the overload, the constant daily barrage of
data. Most of it is useless. Most of it is totally irrelevant. All the AM stations that you hear locally, across the country,
with their topic of today: are you for or against? And sure enough, the people fall automatically into the two categories,
and get all head up and bothered, and argue over the radio about what side they’re joining on whatever issue that these
gossip jockeys dish up for us, manufactured reality.
Very few people can stop and stand silence anymore. They’ve done surveys now, and they find that so many people
cannot sleep without the radio or the television going. Many city people can’t stand silence in the country because
they’ve never had it before. They’ve never lived in an environment with a lack of noise and machinery and traffic.
They’ve adapted. They’ve become comfortable with the environment they’ve grown up in. And yet, only when you’re
alone and away from it all, can you work through all the nonsense. Only then do things become clear, because you’re
thinking for yourself, a unique thing to do today. Maybe a dangerous thing to do today, as well. Because we’re not
supposed to think for ourselves. That’s why you have such a massive culture creation industry as it’s always been
called, by the elite. Massive. To give you your thoughts for every minute of every hour when you’re awake, so that you
don’t think for yourself.
We’re not supposed to notice that we’re being sprayed like bugs from the skies going on unabated. And the major
media, that everyone will run after, the major media and their topics. The major media won’t even mention that. Why
would you trust them on anything else? But the people do. And they do, because they cannot imagine that professional
people and well known authors that come on television and news debates, etc, could be possibly lying to this extent to
keep the public in the dark, because they themselves could not do that. They can’t imagine anybody else could. That’s
how simple this whole thing is. The elite have always done this.
Meanwhile, we’re destroying the last few countries that have hung on to their old ways and have not gone along with
the central bankers, etc, to democratize them, to bring them democracy. Ancient Rome used to go across Europe
claiming they were bringing civilization to the barbarians. Then they brought the moneyed system with them, and
introduced it to the public, and after a generation, the ones who grew up thought it was normal. Then it was taxed back
from them in their labor. It’s a beautiful con game, money. The first trick in the book, money. Not the abuse of money.
Money, period. It can’t help but cause abuse and greed and destruction. Without money, no one could get an army
together to go against anyone else.
The ancient Phoenicians are an interesting people. Although they’re called the first main traders, they were not the first.
We know that there were people before them trading between parts of India and Sumer. And that’s about as far back as
we’re given in history. The Phoenicians used to come into countries with alcohol of all kinds, exotic fruits, etc, and
drugs, and manufactured linen. Things that the people didn’t need at the time, the new countries they went into, and
they would anchor offshore, and then, just before dark, a rowing boat would go in, and they’d set a fire up on the beach,
and put some of their glittering little trinklets down, and some alcohol. And they made beer back then too. Even the
ancient Egyptians drank it. The bureaucrats even had about a gallon each per day as a quota. So, they’d leave the
alcohol on the beach, the trinklets, and they’d go back to the main boat and watch. And sure enough, the more
adventurous ones would come forward cautiously and go to the fire. The women would come to pick up the necklaces
and so on. And then, they’d start drinking the alcohol. Then the sign language and the shouting would happen, between
the boat and the shore. And eventually they’d come in there and join the party. And they would come back every so
often and trade for goods from these people, or furs, or anything at all. And once they’d done it enough times, and got
the people stuck on their baubles and trinklets and linens etc, then they would introduce the money, and only accept that,
again, in return. Then they’d send their moneyman in to distribute the money and to handle the money. This was a
known science, at that time. And he who controls the money and distributes it and takes it back again and fixes the rate,
runs you. You have no say in the matter, at all. And yet, a price is just someone’s idea. That’s all.
Once the Phoenicians, after a generation even – they had long-term planners – had got the system going in different
places, they would put that little place into debt. It could be a village, even, come in to sort it out, just like a bankruptcy,
and then they would set up their factory towns; factory towns, two and a half thousand years ago, where everybody in
the town lived in a habitat area. Sound familiar? Making certain things that these merchants would then take for
peanuts, and trade elsewhere. And they had strings of these factory towns, habitat areas, self-contained little townships.
It’s such a coincidence to see the same thing, all get risen up in the United Nations’ Agenda 21, the Agenda for the 21st
Century, where we’ll all live very happily under this sort of unelected bureaucracy in little habitat areas, and we’ll all
have our own functions for work that will be decided for us. Isn’t that pleasant? We don’t have to wonder about things,
it’s all planned for us. Boy, that’s good for lazy people.
So, nothing ever changes. The same techniques are used down through the millennia, over and over and over again.
And the reason they don’t teach that so much in history now is because they don’t want you to know that these are old
games that are being pulled over and over, the same ones. And if you find out the outcomes in the last merry-go-round
of the same game, you’ll know where it’s going with this one. And you might object, so they don’t teach it in school
anymore. In fact, they don’t teach terribly much in school, except political correctness.
Money is the key to the system. Once it’s accepted as a normal creation, even though very few people even understand
it. And let’s be honest, if you can’t understand something that runs your life and everybody else’s life, and can hire
thousands of men to go into an army and go and kill you or kill other people, if you don’t understand something so
basic, then you know it’s a con game. They try to wrap up cons with science. Any science that makes itself a
profession does one thing right away, it creates new words, new terminology, so that those outside the profession can’t
understand it. Whether it’s medicine or anything else. There’s always a con involved. You don’t say you’ve got the
cold in medicine, you’ve got coisa, the common cold is coisa, you see. That kind of thing. And back to money, it’s the
same thing there.
Back in the 1970s a documentary was aired on the BBC in England, and it documented different ex-professors and
economists who came out openly, and said the whole doctrine of economists was utter nonsense. Utter rubbish. It
wasn’t even a pseudo-science with its ups and down and cycles etc. It’s all utter nonsense, because money itself, as I
say, is an idea that you’re supposed to swallow. And the trick is to get everyone hooked on it, so we’ll all swallow it.
And then it’s taxed back from you. And then the money that’s taxed back, they hire other little people to work for them
to make all the weaponry that then enslaves you, all the satellite technology, all the cameras around roads, all of this
stuff come from taxation.
The oldest dodge in the book was, how do you get someone to do something for you for free, and enjoy doing it? You
introduce money. The boys at the top, it doesn’t cost them anything to do so. They just juggle figures around. We
know all these cons, left, right, and center, up and down, in and out. And about twelve international families supposedly
are the international bankers for the planet. Well, who elected them? Most folk don’t even know they exist. And
definitely most people will never, ever meet them in their lifetime, never mind see them. Well, who gave them the
authority to dictate they could juggle figures and throw a few trillion your way, and you have to owe them it back in real
goods, when they just give you a bunch of figures? In other words, they authorize you to print up money. That’s what
they do.
We get clues all the time of the cons that go on. All the time, and people miss it, because, unless the media tells you to
think about this very seriously, the public won’t. And we know that if they want us to think about anything seriously,
they’ll tell us. They have no problems with that. In a documentary four years ago by the Canadian Broadcasting
Corporation, they showed you these, I think it was the same bunch that found the Titanic, but they were following the
old sea route from WWII from America, from the US and Canada, across near Greenland, all the way to Russia. And
the reason they were following this track and doing the sonar investigations, deep sea sonar, was to find ships that had
been sunk, traveling from the United States, carrying thousands of tons of gold bullion from the US to Russia, Soviet
Russia, the arch-enemy, Communism, remember. These guys supposedly were going to destroy capitalism, and here
they are getting all the gold from the US brought across to them, and some of them got sunk by German U-Boats. And
in a documentary, these seekers, these guys who went out to find these ships, found one. And they went down, and
started bringing up crates of gold bars. Why was the US sending gold bullion to the Soviets during WWII, when the
Soviets were never on the gold standard?
And you wonder where all the gold from Fort Knox went. The people of the Soviet Union and the people of America
and Britain and every other country are taken as suckers, always, by this international elite crowd. Much of the major
things which happen in your life are drama, which you must believe in. And if you believe in it, you’ll accept
everything that’s done to you or done to others. And now, as I say, there’s snippets coming out in the major media,
where they’re going to tell you what they’re going to do to you. They’re goading sections of the public into action, then
they can turn around and say, “see, there are crazy people amongst you; there’s terrorists everywhere.” And then the
general population will see the propaganda and the way it’s presented about a certain incident or whatever, and go along
with the media’s point of view. And then you have the Soviet Union, the new Soviet Union, right here. The Hegelian
dialectic.
When the big boys make statements to deliberately goad sections of the public on major media of what they’re going to
do to you, it’s to get a response. Something has to happen here. And it makes me always think of Rockefeller’s
statement to do with the United Nations, that the Americans would welcome them in. He made a statement in
California, a speech he made there. They’d welcome in UN troops, foreign troops, under the right circumstances. And
don’t forget, all the major countries, the NATO countries have signed an agreement about two months ago, to send rapid
deployment troops of a hundred and forty thousand plus to any country within five days. That’s a double-edged sword,
because it means that can happen to you. They can bring 140,000 or plus into your country, any time they want to. And
let’s not kid ourselves. This is not about some Cave Man, Bin Laden.
This is George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, something that people should read from cover to cover more than once.
The techniques of the ruling oligarchy and the creation of terror, and the fake creation of resistance is all laid out there.
And Blair, that was the real name of Orwell, he had been recruited at Cambridge, so he knew the agenda. He knew the
techniques. Blair’s father was the Commissioner of the British High Commission for the English Royal Opium
Company of Burma.
Well, that’s the bell gone, so I’ll be back in about a couple of minutes to continue. So, I get the thirty seconds when that
bell goes. It’s kind of like the boxing ring, I think. So, I’ll talk to you very shortly.
(Commercial Break)
Hello, I’m back on. This is Alan Watt, standing in for Jackie Patru. And before I forget, I should tell people to look
into the website, at .com. And you’ll find lots of free shows. You can listen to various topics on history, countries,
country creation; a border is just the Order of the Bee. Border, Bee Order. I go through all of this con game, right up to
the present time, and where it’s supposed to go, because they told us where it’s supposed to go in some of the books
written by the big boys themselves.
Getting back to money and the system. Bertrand Russell, Lord Bertrand Russell said himself, in his book, Roads to
Freedom, that eventually the public will not use money, they’ll use tokens, which will be issued to them, individually by
the government. And this will be used for a form of social control and political correctness. And those who don’t go
along with it, will have their credits held back for a certain time, until they can’t pay rent, because in the future society,
there’s to be no private property. That’s standard in Illuminati talks. That’s standard in Albert Pike’s writings. It’s
standard in the UN, their topics, their habitat areas, they said there’d be no private property. And so we’ll rent
everything. We’ll be dependent, inter-dependent individually, and communally. Inter-dependent for your food, for
your water, for your tokens that will be issued to you or withheld, if you’re naughty. And at the beginning of every
week or so, you’ll find the same amount of tokens will start off in your bank account. You can’t save them up and then
get above the guy next to you, because the big boys are changing their system.
This is their system. They’re changing it to be more efficient. At the moment we’re consuming too much. We’re like
the trained rats that pull the lever for the seed. We work for money and then we buy, we actually reward ourselves,
reward ourselves with presents at the end of the month. You know, that’s what we do it for. It’s a simple Pavlovian
technique. Pavlov didn’t invent it. It was on the go long before him, the same way that Hegel never invented the
dialectic. Ancient techniques. In the new system we won’t need all the plastic junk from China. We won’t have
massive supermarkets that have put all the small shops out of business already. That was their function and intention.
Marx talked about that too in the 1800s. Yeah, that’s how you get rid of the competition. You eliminate what they call
free enterprise by putting in the big boys, who put all the hardware stores, the small green grocers, the small butchers,
all that stuff out of business, and then, once it’s done, they jack up the prices to everything, or else, they just close down
and pull out. These massive warehouses they use as stores are just empty shelves, once all of that scaffolding is gone.
They can dismantle it in a couple of days.
Marx even talked about the possibility that in each nation to come, you’d have one factory that made furniture for the
whole country; one factory that would make shoes for the whole country. They’re talking about efficiency. And this
should remind us of what Rockefeller said. He said competition is a sin. Old Nelson Rockefeller. And people think he
was making a flippant joke. He wasn’t. He was telling you something he truly believed in, it’s part of his religion, this
elite’s religion. Competition is a sin. And it was Kissinger that talked about getting the UN troops in, not Rockefeller,
just to rectify that point. So, competition is a sin, you see, in their system. That’s why, under the guise of Free Trade,
it’s really a Cartel Trade. It’s the authorized ones, the big boys that are allowed to trade and small guys can’t. That’s
what it’s all about.
In Albert Pike’s Morals and Dogma, the Bible of Freemasonry, and it still is, in the quiet circles at the top, he talked
about, he says, we must accumulate wealth by any means. He said, even by dealing on the stock market, any means
possible to accumulate wealth and become the masters over the masters of the world. In the late 1700s, a book was
published, called Proofs of a Conspiracy by Dr. Robison, a Scotsman, who’d been in the members of the Illuminati
class. Now, whether it was put out as a cover, to cover other things in Masonry, who knows. It probably was, actually,
but he did admit that part of the plan was for philanthropic organizations to spring up, foundations we call them today,
which would fund social movements and groups – today we’d call it political correctness – and have laws passed
through their force, demanding from the government.
Now, that’s how the Soviet Union was run. Technically the Soviet means run by council. And talk to people from the
old Soviet Union, and they’ll tell you that they had NGOs, non-governmental organizations, but what they had was the
hand-picked leaders at the top of these non-governmental organizations, picked by the government itself, who always
demanded from the government what the government wanted to hear. Generally, it was more laws passed, and that’s
what we have today, as we get hamstrung and tied up with law after law after law, when leaders of these NGOs meet
with politicians and police and have laws passed between them. And the public have no input, because, well, you have
to get into a group to be democratic, you see. Individuals don’t count. Now, isn’t that the Soviet, once again?
And in the 1700s, when Robespierre and all the rest of them were writing their books, of the system to come, and these
guys had no love of the common man either, never did, they talked about this system. They talked about the masses
having no ability to lead themselves. They also talked about the problems they’d have in a future society. And the
problems wouldn’t be with the masses or the crowds or the groups. The problems would be from individuals, because,
in their perfect system, the individual would be the enemy. It’s the individual, the uncommon man, or woman, who can
think for themselves, and express themselves, and convey simply to other people what’s going on. It’s that individual
that becomes a threat to the system. And so, individuality was scheduled to be destroyed.
You can see this in the collectivism of John Dewey, the guy brought in to really set up the American education system.
John Dewey said we’ll eradicate all negative history. We won’t teach it to the children. We won’t tell them who killed
who in the past, and what groups killed whom, because it will keep old hatreds going. So they’d simply eliminate the
history. And what a coincidence, that’s where we are today, where if you ask the average person coming out of school,
about wars, they’ll tell you, well, WWII was fought over territory. It was a territorial enterprise. And that’s it. I guess
you get a hundred percent for answering that. And some of them don’t know who fought in it, which countries. It’s
kind of irrelevant.
In the 1950s, this Dewey method was spouted by the Communists, within the United States. A great saying came up. It
was put all over the media, the willing media. They said don’t trust anybody over thirty. That’s when they were
segregating the age groups, another part of the vital plan, or the vital part of the plan, I should say, to get the agenda into
full swing. You had to separate the family unit, destroy it. You’d separate the elderly from all the rest. You’d separate
the married ones with their children from those that were unmarried, and so, they’ve been very, very successful. The
average family has no one over sixty in their family now. People are actually booking themselves into retirement homes
as though it’s a natural thing to do. And their youngsters are encouraging them to do it. It was the people who were
older at one time were wiser. And they could pass knowledge and information on, and tell you, well, I saw this con
back in the year so-and-so, and this is what happened. There’s no one to tell them anymore. They’ve been successfully
segregated, every age group.
People should study up on Beria, the head of the NKVD, which became the KGB in the Soviet system. In the
Comintern meeting about 1932 or ’33, which you can find, if you wanted to go into a library, or you can maybe waste
your time on the internet. And you’ll find his speech concerning the indoctrination of children incrementally, where he
said, it used to take thirty to seventy years to alter the way of thinking, the perceptions of a generation to accept the next
stage of a plan. He says, now, he says, we have it down to every five years, because at that time, they’d already started
a lot of kindergarten techniques in the Soviet. And they found that if they wanted this child, who’s brought in at three
years of age, to accept certain massive changes in societal living thirty years down the road, they’d start the
indoctrination at two or three, so that when it happened in their lifetime, they somehow expected it. It seemed quite
natural. And then the ones who would come in, in the following year, into the same kindergarten at the beginning age,
the starting age, they’d be taught incrementally a little bit more to the next step.
And this is why we flow into the changes, massive world global changes, with no hiccups and interruptions and very
few people can figure out the whys and wherefores, and very few people really care. We’ve taken personal
responsibility away from the public, until now thinking for yourself is a burden. Worry is a burden. Why do you think
there’s so much worry in the world, everywhere? It’s the same worries: financial, marriage crisis, all this kind of stuff.
And you wonder why everything is falling apart? Look at the indoctrination everyone is getting, in all age groups, all
genders, massive indoctrinations, they’ve grown up with it. Some of the biggest boys have written books on this and
said, marriage is obsolete, it served its purpose. And they gave us it in the first place.
When the Roman Catholic Church first came in to Europe that was the first law they passed when they had the Normans
to back them with the sword, marriage and marriage for life. Because it didn’t exist as such in tribal systems. And to
expect someone to be mated up with someone else, at the age of 13 to 16, and mature at the same speed, in the same
direction for the rest of their life, of course it’s ludicrous. It’s not natural. But they had to start a breeding program for
the coming labor, for centuries ahead, which became the industrial era.
And people were literally picked by the priests. The local priests would suggest that Sally should marry Burt over there.
And that was an order. And he kept tabs of who was marrying whom, and their offspring. Were they healthy, robust?
Were they good serfs, good laborers, good workers? Were they slow? Were they quick-witted? The quick-witted ones
were generally taken off to become priests. So they were taken out of the fields and put in the monasteries. And they
got their food and their drink, and a lot more besides. The rest of them stayed as serfs and had their little holidays now
and then, to relieve the safety valve and let the steam off, where they could be naughty for a day, and then go back to
being a slave for the rest of the year.
H.G. Wells, one of the biggest propagandists for the New World Order, and a ranking member, founding member of the
Fabian Society, a crown chartered organization. In other words, authorized to exist by the elite, the Crown, supposedly
representing the extreme workingmen, left wing. H.G. Wells, in his book The Open Conspiracy, this was non-fiction.
Most of his work was actually non-fiction, but no-one wants to read that, it’s boring. There’s no thrill. There’s no sex
and violence in it. So they don’t read the non-fiction. He said in that particular book, he says, many will fight and die
to stop the New World Order, never knowing, never, ever knowing that that which they were trying to preserve was
never theirs. It’s just what they were born into, became accustomed to it as familiar. We are so far removed from what
we think of as normalcy, we don’t know what it is anymore.
And now, we’re on a roll, where all that was normal for a few generations, that’s only what becomes tradition, you see,
is all in flux. Crisis after crisis, men marrying men, women marrying women. Just before 9/11, a month before 9/11,
they had a meeting of the International Censorship Committees for all the different nations. Censorship Committees.
Now, you think your censor bureau for your country is to keep you squeaky clean and protected from profanity, you see.
But, no, their job is to see how much you can take by their constant polling. And they said at that meeting that now
they’d won the battle for homosexual rights and lesbian rights, they were going to up the ante. Up the ante. And then
the next following day in the newspaper in Canada, and one in the States, two professors at different universities stood
up, and gave the identical same speech, obviously written by the same hand, identical speech, saying that bestiality
would be next. Bestiality. Because once your idea of normal is thrown out the window, as the old song says, “Anything
Goes”. And the more confusion and the more the speed, the rapid speed of change the more confusion there will be
created, and the more can be implemented quickly. And that is what’s happening now.
The European Union had panels working in 1948, in secrecy, sworn, in this international agreement, not to disclose this
to the public that their nations would be de-industrialized, and then, when the nations were joined, they’d be under a
super-parliament. And they admitted that only a few years ago, after the official announcement of the European Union
as an organization under a super-parliament. And it actually stated, the public must not be told this, until it is
completed. A free society eh? Now, I can guarantee you, this amalgamation of the Americas probably had bureaucrats
starting at the same time, in 1948, working on the amalgamation of the Americas.
We know that Marx talked about the amalgamation of these three continents you might say, or the Pacific Rim region as
well. In the 1800s he talked about it. We’re living through it. Those that want to believe this is coincidence should just
go and spend their money in the local casino. How many coincidences do you need before you start thinking for
yourself? We’re watching laws being implemented, the same laws, on a National, International, Regional, County,
Local level at the same time. Same laws passed across the world. What does that give you a clue as to what is
happening?
Once the amalgamation of the Americas takes place, then they’ll announce who is to be the kingpin for the Pacific Rim
region. Australia has already been signed off to China really, who will be the dominant region for a while. And for all
those Australians that think, well, they’d never do that to us, don’t you believe it. They will. I was astounded at what
happened to Rhodesia and then South Africa, which were part of the British Commonwealth remember. They were
founded supposedly, founded with British backing and charters. They were colonies of Britain. And the African
National Congress just suddenly appeared with massive funding. It was called a Communistic system at the time. Well
armed, all the rest of it, and fighting went on for many, many years, and then when the final push came into Rhodesia,
there wasn’t a peep that came out of the British media as to what was happening. Unless you knew people there, you
wouldn’t know it was even going on. We had a brief little mention that sort of passed away when all these people had
flown out of the country before they were killed. And the reason for it was, that was also part of the agenda.
These places were founded to rape the wealth, for a long time, by the same elite, and they did. Cecil Rhodes was
backed by Rothschild and De Beers to basically monopolize the gold and diamond industry at that period, when they
were still on the gold standard. They’re not on it now. They still use it, but not the same way. And now that its
function was over, they could simply dispose of those countries. And part of the plan was to unify Africa, just the same
as we’ve been amalgamated. Mandela’s job is also to unify the whole of Africa. Unification. And of course, they used
the old tribal techniques. We’re all one. We’re all one big nation. And the schmucks go along with it, and then they
get ripped off and wonder what happened, and where their dream went to.
And for all those agencies that have worked towards this great plan for such a long time, you should dig into the
writings of Clymer of the Rosicrucians, in the United States, and read the Convocations they had, the big meetings they
had, especially the opening one when they founded their main building in the United States. And he said, we
summoned, we, the Rosicrucians, summoned the Blue Lodge and he mentions the Eastern Star, and all the other
organizations of Freemasonry, he summoned them all, and they all came. And they pretend they’re all different. Who’s
kidding who? And in that meeting, he ended it by saying, we shall not rest, this is the early 1900s, we shall not rest until
the Eagle of Mexico flies alongside the Eagle of the United States, as it should be. The Amalgamation. Oh, what
another coincidence, eh? Isn’t the world just full of it?
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Thanks for listening. Bye for now.
September 20th, 2006
Alan Watt on “Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight, on Sweet Liberty. Today is
Wednesday and it is the 20th of September in the year 2006. I hope you’ve had a nice week since we talked last, folks.
Well, actually, I was on with Darren last night. I don’t know how many of you listen to Darren. I urge you to do so.
Darren was going to be on, Darren Weeks, was going be with us this evening. He’s discovered, and I wanted to
mention this, before we bring Alan up, Alan Watt is with us. Alan, thanks for being here by the way.
Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: I don’t want to leave you sitting there in the quiet. Darren discovered a theme in Michigan; it’s in the Michigan
legislature. In fact, after it was introduced, it had already been passed through Senate committee. This was on a fast
track. It is a vaccine folks, and the reason I’m telling you about this, well, I’ll tell you anyway, but when Darren began
doing his research, he found that 45 states’ legislatures are already messing with this stuff again. And this is a vaccine
that is mandated for sixth grade girls in the government indoctrinational system we once called schools. It is a
mandated vaccine for sixth grade girls, those are girls, what ten and eleven years, sixth girls, and it is to prevent cervical
cancer. Darren has done a lot of research on it, and he speaks about it Monday. His broadcasts are archived on Sweet
Liberty, of course, or originally they’re archived at First Amendment Radio. And, then after a period of time, but if you
are not subscribing to First Amendment Radio, you might want to do that, because you get the archives, then the same
day, next day, if you don’t hear the broadcast live. He will, he had the guest on Monday. He’s interviewing a woman
who’s actually in the legislature. And the insidious thing, what’s happening in Michigan is the legislator, she’s a
Senator, who introduced this thing, when Darren called her office about it, the assistant secretary that he spoke with
said, oh, she has been spending a lot of time on this. She’s working with a group that’s helping her with it. Well, he
found out that the group is called Women in Government. He went to their website, guess who their sponsors are,
Women in Government, Merck and GlaxoSmithKline. Those are two pharmaceutical companies, and it just so happens
folks that Merck is the only pharmaceutical now that has this vaccine ready. It hasn’t been tested for safety, of course.
And when he went to the Merck site and pulled this up, I don’t recall what it is. Darren will be speaking about it again
Monday night, and interviewing the woman from the State Legislature. I don’t think she’s a rep or a Senator, but she
works there in the Legislature. He found out that this thing has aluminum in it. I don’t know what other ingredients. It
is supposedly, again, a vaccine, that would prevent cervical cancer. It’s interesting, I didn’t know this, because I don’t
watch the news, and I don’t get mainstream television, but my sis said, for the last two months, they’ve been talking
about this on, evidently the news and different programs, that they have discovered that cervical cancer comes from a
virus, so now they’re planning on shoving more of these chemicals into young children. I want you to know about it,
and I think you ought to check into your state and see. Darren has written an article about it, he’s going to post it at
Sweet Liberty, so all the information will be there, and I hope you will look into it, and at least make a call. Make a call
to your legislator. Your state legislator doesn’t’ know what’s the ingredients in these stupid things. And call informed,
and let them know, at least in Michigan, because maybe this Women in Government group is pushing it through all the
states, folks. Maybe that’s how, what Merck is using as the tool to get this into the states. Women in Government, you
might want to write that down. Go to their website, because it may be, may be, as I was saying, it may be that they’re
pushing it in all the states, five of them now. Alan, here we go again, huh.
Alan: Yes. I’m not surprised.
Jackie: I’m not surprised either.
Alan: And of course, we know from long study that the inoculations that they gave in the past had nothing to do with
what they claimed. They were for alternate purposed. And it’s nothing new, it’s been known for around sixty, seventy
years that virus, that the human papilloma virus is what the wart, the venereal wart is what starts off as cervical cancer.
That’s always been known.
Jackie: No, you’re kidding me.
Alan: No.
Jackie: Is a war a virus?
Alan: Yeah, it’s called by a virus, you see. And it’s not the same exactly as you get on your skin elsewhere. But it’s
just as contagious, maybe even more so.
Jackie: Is it a form of herpes, Alan?
Alan: No, no. It’s a virus family, but it’s different. It causes little warts inside, generally the vagina. Women can carry
them for many years without knowing. For guys, it’s obviously more obvious. And they’re terribly, terribly hard to get
rid of. But it would be quite the thing to claim they’ve got a particular antidote to this, a preventative, because, like all
viruses, there’s so many strains and varieties, you know.
Jackie: Right.
Alan: So, I very much doubt this has to do with what they’re claiming. I don’t trust them at all, in fact, when you go
into the history of vaccinations.
Jackie: Of course not. And then when he looked into the ingredients, aluminum is present, Alan.
Alan: And that causes Alzheimer’s.
Jackie: Exactly.
Alan: And there would be other. I’ll tell you another thing too. When they tell you something like aluminum, it’s often
to sidetrack you for you to focus on that, while there’s another thing that’s much more ominous inside there.
Jackie: Even worse.
Alan: Yeah. It will attack the hormonal system I have no doubt, because they want to bring down the population
drastically. Yeah. Yeah.
Jackie: And they’re doing it in all their insidious and evil ways.
Alan: And it’s highly Masonic. I mean Merck is Mercury, the messenger. That’s why they called it Merck, you know.
And the high Masons love Mercury the messenger.
Jackie: Maybe that’s why they use thimerosal.
Alan: Yeah, mm, hmm. That’s right, Mercury comes from it. Yeah. And Women in Government is just WIG by the
way. Ha, ha, ha. Maybe the stuff makes your hair fall out. I don’t know.
Jackie: Is Wig.
Alan: Yeah, W-I-G, yeah. But what I was going to say was…
Jackie: It’s a cover up.
Alan: I know there was one woman, there’s probably a few, but there’s one woman in a video I watched to do with
Monsanto’s modified food, and this woman worked for the federal drug administration and so she was in politics, back
into the FDA, and then she was into Monsanto, into them, back and forth, five times, from Monsanto back to working
for the government. I wonder if it’s the same one. So they have their own agents in the government, you see.
Jackie: This state legislator…
Alan: Yeah, he’d have to dig up her history, yeah.
Jackie: Yeah, well, she was, I don’t think she’s at present, I think she just recently finished as the chairman of the board
of Women in Government. And their sponsor being Merck, you would think this is a tremendous.
Alan: Conflict. Yeah.
Jackie: Conflict of interest. I’ll tell you what Darren did. He went to the newsroom, you know, he’s an engineer at a
TV station, he told them about it, and they did a thing on it, and they mentioned that it sounded like a conflict of
interest, and once he’s got the ingredients and understands what’s in it, he’s going to ask them to follow up. But then to
find out that it is in 45 states. On thing I wanted to say to our listeners, this is a mandated thing, folks. Every single
state has an opt-out form, that parents can opt their children out of the vaccines and they can’t be kicked out of school.
They will not tell you that. But that is so. And I know in Missouri as a matter of fact, when Nicole was, she actually
called Health and Human Services to get a copy of an opt out form, when they were mandating Ashley’s grade, the all
had to have the tetanus vaccine, Alan. And when she got up to the school, I guess almost the entire class was being sent
home, because they weren’t vaccinated. And she told them that she was going to be signing an opt-out form. She had
one coming from Health and Human Services. And the lady said, “Well, honey, we have them right there. And she
handed on to Nicole, and that’s all it was. It didn’t have to be any religious, philosophical, just, there’s an opt-out form.
The problem is, when they mandate this, most of the parents don’t know they can opt their children out of them.
Alan: I know. And even though you can opt out, they’ll still try sort of covert threatening and children’s aid, etc. But
you’re up against the whole bureaucracy of NGOs. The Children’s Aid Society by the way is non governmental. I hope
people realize that.
Jackie: What?
Alan: It’s a nongovernmental institution.
Jackie: What did you say again?
Alan: The Children’s Aid Society.
Jackie: Children’s Aid Society? I’ve never heard of that.
Alan: Well, Children’s Aid is the same thing as the Child, what do you call it in the States?
Jackie: Children’s Family Service?
Alan: Yeah. Because these actually started up as NGOs, non-governmental organizations and simply got funding
eventually from government, but they’re still classified as basically private institutions. So, they often threaten the
parents with these different services if they refuse to go along with their particular.
Jackie: In the States here Alan, Family, they have different names for them, but it’s the Department of Family. They
have different names for them. But it’s an agency. There are bureaucrats that work in them. It is an agency that has
been created by the State Legislature. And they create these agencies. And it’s of course such broad language, and
there is so much leeway given, so much latitude given that there’s almost no stopping. I mentioned this I believe last
night, because Darren Weeks asked me to come on with him. Here in Pennsylvania I was talking to a Secretary of one
of our state reps, and she said whenever somebody has called the office to ask for help, for Children’s Family Services,
I’m not sure what they call them here, are harassing them and threatening them, he’d call to try to help a constituent,
here’s what he was told: You created us. You gave us this power. And there’s nothing you can do about it. So not even
the state legislature who created the monster, not even they can interfere.
Alan: Well, we are living under tyranny. There’s no doubt about it. And it’s interesting that Carl Jung, back in the
1950s, who really was way superior to any Freud they put out there, his worst vision of the future that he was sure was
coming by the science that he saw then wasn’t just an iron curtain across a country, like Germany or whatever. He saw
an iron wall around the whole planet of bureaucracy that would stifle all free thought and existence. And he was quite
right. That’s what we’re coming into now.
Jackie: Karl Marx, now, I don’t know if this true, just because I read it, but I read that Karl Marx didn’t write all of his
writings, he was just a front person.
Alan: He was a front. Engels supplied a lot of the writing too.
Jackie: Okay, and so, he saw this. No, he didn’t see this. It was in the plan, yes?
Alan: Well, it was Lenin who wrote about it himself. Lenin said that the time would come in the West, towards the
Millennium. He was talking about 2000, and he wrote this back in the early 1900s, he said, a time would come in the
West, where Bureaucracies would be so all-pervasive and so numerous that they’d be overstepping each other’s
boundaries, causing confusion as they battled for power between themselves. And he said, this is a stage that the world
must go through. He knew the whole agenda. So, we have to go through this stage of apparent confusion over
regulation, until even the bureaucrats are stepping over each other, different departments, and then they come out with
the new system, the new society, yeah. Yeah. Everything is planned, even the crisis, yeah.
Jackie: Yeah, well, of course. I read. I’ll tell you what I did. I was looking for a particular article in my files, in my
email files. I have a jillion folders. And so I did a search. I wasn’t able to find it, but I remembered reading and this
was I believe a newspaper report, that the US Congress, I may have even mentioned it when I had it emailed to me.
That the US Congress had shortened the time, the required time for the pharmaceuticals to test their new drugs. The
time it was shortened to was eight weeks, Alan.
Alan: I know, and even then. Eight weeks. Yeah, yeah. I know, it’s pathetic, but then again, it falls right into the
agenda, because remember, Carroll Quigley himself, who was the historian, he was the official historian for the
secretive CFR organization, which is the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and he said,
right in there, that the New World Order will consist of a new type of feudal system with corporations taking the parts of
the warlords and nobility. So, we’re finding more and more so that the legislation is getting passed on behalf of massive
international corporations. That’s happening. And look at all the politicians, all these lawyers, corporate lawyers.
They’ve been either working for these corporations before they go into politics, or they go into them after they’ve left
politics. So, it’s one in the same thing, really. So, private corporations are getting their way. We saw it here in Canada
quite a few years ago, when we found out, through Britain, through a protest that was happening in Britain when Tony
Blair was pushing through the modified food, the genetically modified vegetables, it came out, it leaked out from the
NGOs in Britain, who were protesting that Canadians had been using this stuff for ten years and they hadn’t told the
populace. So, the government had to come out within a statement, and they did admit in all the newspapers, they’d
signed a secret agreement with Monsanto and others to test this stuff on the Canadians. A secret agreement from your
own government.
Jackie: Your own government.
Alan: Uh, huh.
Jackie: They aren’t our government.
Alan: I know. I know. I mean this Mickey Mouse show is getting pathetic. But that’s what they give us.
Jackie: When you think about, I suppose, do you think Parliament, I would imagine so, in Canada, is it a corporation
like the US government inc.
Alan: Yeah, yeah.
Jackie: They’re all corporations.
Alan: They’re all patterned after the.
Jackie: Paul Martin. Is Paul Martin still there?
Alan: No, well, he’s not there now. He’s working for the UN as far as I know.
Jackie: Oh, who’s the new guy?
Alan: Oh, it’s Harper, Steven Harper.
Jackie: Steven Harper. Okay.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: So, he’s the CEO.
Alan: He is the CEO, yeah. He’s, yeah.
Jackie: Like Bush.
Alan: But they’re not the admirals, they’re only the captains of the ship.
Jackie: They’re more like the janitors. Let’s face it.
Alan: Yeah. I know, I know, it’s rather sad and pathetic to try and try and even pretend to yourself that these guys are in
charge of you. Because they’re not. They’re going along with an old agenda. We can read their predecessors who
wrote books on it. And it doesn’t matter which party gets in, the agenda steamrolls ahead, because the bureaucracies are
there forever, regardless of who appears to be the front man in Parliament. The bureaucracies are there for life, forever.
Yeah.
Jackie: And they have schools for the bureaucrats.
Alan: They do.
Jackie: For the children of the bureaucrats.
Alan: They’re all intergenerational at the federal level. I read that recently. I know you said that.
Jackie: I read that just recently. It was some particular individual I was reading and that he had gone to school as the
child of a bureaucrat, he went to the school for bureaucrats, to grow up a bureaucrat.
Alan: And they marry each other too. It’s a closed society. They always live in a specific area of each capitol city of
every nation, and they intermarry and go to the same social clubs, and they don’t really mingle with the general
population. So, they’re a class to themselves really, yeah. But they know when they go into a department that they’re
schooled into what their function will be there, their role will be for their whole life, what they have to push forward.
And H.G. Wells talked about that when he did the write up on the League of Nations, the precursor of the United
Nations.
Jackie: It will lead to peace?
Alan: Yeah. He said that basically now, he says, with the League of Nations, it is the Embryo of World Parliament. He
says and every country has its bureaucrats who can now correspond directly with equivalent bureaucracies at the League
of Nations. Now, that’s the same today. They don’t even have to go through the politicians. Yeah.
Jackie: But the politicians have assisted them in the first place. Every single agency started, I have a report, a UN report
from 3 meetings that were back in the 1950s. One was in the Soviet Union and one was in Switzerland. I don’t recall
where the third one was. And that was when they were talking about, gosh, it has to do with the Housing
Administration. Yes. I think that’s what, HUD, over here. That was before HUD was even formed. And I got to
looking up in the encyclopedia to see when HUD was created, and it was right after that meeting took hold. It was a
regional governance, the oh, geez, there was a quote in there that that main purpose for this particular individual was the
transfer of land from private to public use. That was back in 1950. And then all of these, they kept using these phrases.
They all related to different agencies that are here in the US, and as you said, they’re all brothers and sisters across the
world, created under the auspices of the United Nations.
Alan: Yeah, that’s a fact.
Jackie: And we have the United Nations report here, where they plan to become a true World Parliamentary
Government.
Alan: Yeah. Yeah, they’ve said in many statements that their function is to eventually become the World’s
Government. They’ve said it quite openly.
Jackie: So, they need their own army. They need their own taxing agenda. And they need, the only thing that was
lacking they said was the People’s Parliament, the Voice of the People.
Alan: Oh, the Voice of the People.
Jackie: The Voice of the People would be the nongovernmental organizations.
Alan: Yeah. The Soviet.
Jackie: That’s the Voice of the People.
Alan: That’s the Soviet. That’s what Soviet means, NGOs, yeah.
Jackie: Rule by Council?
Alan: Yeah, that’s right. Unelected councils, and just like the Soviet Union, they claim to speak for the people. The
people demand this, the people demand that, but each head of the organization was appointed by the Soviet Politburo
itself. So, it won’t be any different here. We know that.
Jackie: Of course not.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: But when you have all of these thousands, because there are thousands of them. As a matter of fact, any listener
who might be interested, they’re in our United Nations section, at Sweetliberty.org. There’s a report that was done on,
in fact, it was “Peace by Pieces” and it was all about the nongovernmental organizations, how they were going to bring
the New World Order in by these Organizations. I think the thing was done, it came from the University of
Pennsylvania, and it may have been ’43. It could have been ’34. I don’t know. It was back, way back, and already they
said there were 2700 hundred of them.
Alan: Yeah, and it started in the 1700s, and it started initially by the big, the foundations, philanthropists they called it at
the time, the multi-millionaires of the day, very high Freemasons too. And they’d all got together and decided how to
take the world over, and of course, money was the key, so they’d have to control the world’s resources and get to the
top, then they could finance and front these little NGO groups, and it’s gone on steadily since then. These, the big
NGOs are not grass roots at all, never were. They have big buildings, a lot of them, computerized equipment all over
the place on different floors. They have pension plans. So they’re not grass roots. These are authorized and funded by
the Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller Foundations, and many others, yeah.
Jackie: People would be, they’d be interested to know that the Boy and Girl Scouts of America, it’s international, and it
is considered an NGO. And YM and YWCAs are non-governmental organizations, recognized by the United Nations.
Alan: Yeah. That’s right. So, it’s the same old con. The pretense that there’s someone there to speak for you. And as
long as the pretense is there, most of the public goes along with it. Yeah. Yeah.
Jackie: I wanted our listeners to know about this so that they can look into it. I understand that Pennsylvania is one of
the states, and I’m going to take a look into it and at least give the State Legislature a call, my state rep, and state
senator. I don’t know what the situation is here, but it behooves each of us to check it out, because you have no idea the
difference you make. And that’s true. I know that’s true.
Alan: And you’ve got to hit something at the beginning, if possible before it begins. Once it’s underway it becomes, it
becomes normal so quickly, you know. You’ve got to hit things right away to stop things. You can’t let them start and
then hit them. It’s very difficult then to stop something.
Jackie: And you know there are, I know that it’s frustrating for people who are awake and who are waking up. Well,
we’re all waking up, but the process of waking up. Some of us have woken a little before others, but it’s frustrating
when they try to talk to friends, neighbors, associates, family, and you know, they get the eyes rolling up and, but here’s
how I feel about this. If we know something that can affect their loved ones and them, then it’s our responsibility to say
it, because it is planting seeds. Like you said, not to go out there and start preaching, but just say it. And then if they
care and say, whoa, tell me more about this, then you have a person with some active gray matter.
Alan: And you stay on the topic. You see, people generally know so many different areas where everything is
happening; they overload the person, rather than stick on a topic. You know, and leave it with them at that, until maybe
the next time. Yeah.
Jackie: Or lets say ask a question. A lot of times, they’re talking to somebody, then it sparks a question in their mind.
Alan: Yeah. That’s okay. Yeah.
Jackie: If they ask, then that’s fine.
Alan: And keep, again, it’s short, because you could probably give them enough knowledge for a book on each topic.
You don’t’ realize how much you’ve stored up in your head. So, you only give them enough on each topic for the time
being. And that’s how you can do it. Because you’re talking to people who swallowed their conditioned reality and
they truly believe that if there’s anything really, really worth knowing the media will tell them.
Jackie: Yeah right.
Alan: They really believe that.
Jackie: And I have an example. I think we’re about out of our first half hour. So, I don’t think I have time. It isn’t
long, but I don’t want to be interrupted. So that our listeners see that it can happen. Then, at least you said it, and that is
our responsibility. I just don’t see that any other way, Alan.
Alan: I know. I know.
Jackie: I just don’t see it any other way. Folks, we’re going to be back right after this, in about three minutes, so, you
stay with us. I’m Jackie Patru, in case you’re a new listener. And Alan Watt is our guest this evening, as usual. We’ll
be right back here.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back. Alan, before we get started, tell the listeners about what you have to offer, you’re DVD and
the books, etc.
Alan: Yeah. If they go to .com, they can look at the videos. I’ve also got the first one which is free on the site, the first
DVD on Reality Check. They can also purchase it, if they want to, for other people that don’t have computers.
Jackie: That’s nice. You’ve got that on DVD now.
Alan: Yeah, mm, hmm.
Jackie: Oh, that’s nice.
Alan: Because a lot of people don’t have computers, and it plays on the DVD player for your TV. And I’ve got more
CDs coming out too.
Jackie: Now, you have Reality Check 2.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: But you have Reality Check 1 on DVD?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Okay, both of them are available. Oh, that’s cool. And the first one is for people to watch free, if they want to.
But they can purchase it to show their friends and family, etc. And the other one is for purchase only, Reality Check 2.
And your books.
Alan: And there’s the three books there, the Cutting Through Series. It was a form of deprogramming, which it does
work. I’ve had a lot of people who have; it’s not what they expect. It’s not with the usual boring, this happened in the
year so and so. It’s a method of showing you what’s in front of you that you’ve missed, to show you that you’re living
in not just deception, but even the deception of the language we’re given is so coded. And once they understand it, it
becomes obvious to them. And the higher Freemasons use these codes all the time. And I’ve got another one coming
out. It will be about a month’s time hopefully, that goes further into this whole coding business, for those who have
already caught up on the last three books. Yeah.
Jackie: A de-programming.
Alan: Yes. Yeah, because you have to de-program people. It’s not just a matter of, see, here’s the trick that’s played on
us, apart from the fact that we’re brainwashed into a version of Reality.
Jackie: But we’re born into it, Alan.
Alan: You’re born into it. And if your parents don’t know to tell you how it works, you would think it’s normal. Which
means anything can be normal to a child brought up in any system. And so, you have to show them, by history too, that
this was a planned society, and it’s to be a planned world. It’s all coming together. All the laws are coming together.
The legalities, so they can merge the whole planet quite smoothly as they did with the merger of Europe. They merged
the country’s laws together, quietly, over a period of fifty years. And eventually, they started to standardize the money,
bring some down and value some up, so they could simply merge into the Euro. They’re doing the same in North
America here, with Latin America. So, everything that happens is planned. Nothing just happens at the time. And
these front meetings that we see, where they put their signature on something as presidents, that’s just a show for the
public. In reality, the negotiations and all the footwork were done by bureaucrats and lawyers for the last fifty years,
you know. So, I go through this kind of stuff to show the people, it’s much, much deeper.
You can’t play the game of politics, it’s totally corrupt. Always was. Politicians are vetted long before the public even
hear their names to vote for. They’re vetted by the big boys. And the ones that are chosen go along with the agenda.
That’s their job. Politics is a front in itself for the agenda. And it stops the people from revolting every four or five
years, and that’s why they gave this so called democratic system, beginning with Britain. They found that the public
was generally, they were so over-taxed over hundreds of years and all the wars that came along after the Rothschilds
took over the bank, and they got a standing army, paid for by the tax payer, the people were so over taxed, they knew
they’d have a Revolution every four or five years, so they gave them this thing called democracy, and carried on as
usual with the some antics. But the people think, well, we’ve got a chance. We can get these guys out. And that’s what
you do in these countries. You vote the last lot of politicians out, hoping the next bunch will be better. And it never is.
Jackie: Well, today, at least here in the US, and I don’t know how many countries are using the computer voting
machines.
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: In the US today, voting is actually futile. I mean, because your vote could be changed.
Alan: It always was though.
Jackie: Not always, not this easy.
Alan: Well, I’ll tell you, what I found strange, I only went to a voting office once, and that was because someone told
me to meet them there. I’m proud to say, I’ve never voted for anything or anybody in my life. I was never fooled. But
I went to this one, in Ontario here, to meet someone, and every woman that was counting the votes in that office had an
Eastern Star Badge on. That’s no coincidence. You know, and Stalin himself, said, I don’t care.
Jackie: They weren’t counted right in the public, at the voting precinct itself?
Alan: Yeah, yeah.
Jackie: They weren’t?
Alan: Oh, they were counted in there, but all the staff there that were in charge of all the boxes and in the counting were
all these women with Eastern Star Badges on.
Jackie: And the public wasn’t allowed in, while the counting was going.
Alan: No, no. And Stalin himself said, I don’t care who votes for whom, he says. He says, that’s irrelevant. He says, I
only care about the one that counts them. Yeah, so, yeah. So, it’s a con game. It always was.
Jackie: What I wanted to say before we got on that subject and back off it again, when we were talking about it being
our responsibility at least to inform people. My sis and I went grocery shopping the other day, and stopped and had
lunch, and she accidentally put aspartame, or I think it was that, it might have been Splenda, in her coffee cup, and she
took a sip and she said, whoa. So, she asked the waitress if she could please have another cup, and it was a new cup of
coffee. And she says, oh, that’s great. I use that. I’ll drink it myself. And she started walking away. And I said, “Was
it Splenda you put in your coffee?” “Yeah.” And I said, “No Splenda, no Splenda.” as she was walking away, and she
turned around. And she said, “No Splenda?” And I said, “No.” So she came back. And she asked me about it. And I
said, “No. It’s a real bad move, any of the artificial sweeteners. I said, just do a search on your search engine for
Splenda; asked her if she had a computer. I said, just do a search for Splenda and you will find out about it. And she
said, “Thank you.” And that was the end of it. And I mean, she meant it, Alan. She wasn’t just, oh, I’m a customer, so
humor me. She was very appreciative to hear that. She had no idea. It took about three minutes. And anything like
that.
Alan: Oh, yeah. You can’t really stop yourself. I mean, I can’t. Yeah.
Jackie: You can’t?
Alan: Yeah. And there’s so many opportunities.
Jackie: Every time somebody says something, it’s an opening isn’t it?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: It really is. And then, then there comes a time when you just have to gulp, because everything they say is an
opening. Everything they say. But when it comes to, when it comes to things like that, it’s so, it’s killing. It’s killing.
It’s our responsibility to say it. Whether they listen or not, it is of course to be their own responsibility. And you know,
I may have said this already. I may have said it on the air. But this thought has been in my mind. If I knew Alan, when
I was a young woman. If I knew what this world was like, I don’t think I would have ever brought children into the
world. Alan, I mean that.
Alan: Well, I decided that before I had a woman. (Chuckle) Yeah. I knew it then. Yeah.
Jackie: You knew it, but I didn’t. And then I think to myself, well you know what, who are we to say who’s to be here?
Because there are people who come up. And I read some, in fact, I wanted to use it tonight as our spiritual message. It
was spiritual I guess in a sense. But, basically what it said was that something about today there are so few that are
doing so much for so many. But it had to do with the people who are awake and who are waking up.
Alan: Mm, hmm. Yeah, because we are at a crucial time. In the past, it wasn’t so urgent. It was always there, boiling
away, simmering away, but now it’s urgent, because we know, they’ve published so much on their scientific data.
They’ve had so many world meetings of scientists of what to do with the public, the type of public they wish to have in
the very, very near future. And we know it’s a robotic type society. So, that’s why it’s so urgent now, you see. Yeah.
Because those who are growing up now are the ones who are going to go through the biggest changes that’s ever been
seen here for probably thousands of years. Yeah.
Jackie: Do you think this is the end of an age?
Alan: Oh, it is the end of an age. There’s no doubt, yeah.
Jackie: Well, I mean, it’s the end of the Age of Pisces and…
Alan: Yeah. And with that.
Jackie: Do they? No, but, I want to ask you a question. They refer to that as an Age?
Alan: Yes. To them, it’s the period of time, in every age, in every age their have their agenda scheduled out.
Jackie: So, is that every twenty some hundred years?
Alan: Yeah, it’s over twenty-five and a half thousand, really in a sense. Now, they knew, if you notice, history went
along with the usual conquering stuff, the building up of empires in the traditional fashion, with the backing of the
money lenders and the taxations of the conquered people. It went on quite the same, and so did agriculture and so on,
until about the 1500s. And it was in the 1500s, as though an alarm bell went off. Suddenly there was this explosion of
Rosicrucianism throughout Europe. And it was always Rosicrucians in amongst around the Royal Families, the
advisors and so on. And they were into the sciences. Suddenly science was very important to them, because they knew
though, it had only about five hundred years left to complete the mission that through science they would conquer all or
finish off the period for the age. And that’s why they’ve had this tremendous rush since the 1500s.
Jackie: So, you’re saying, according to them, an Age is a full cycle of the zodiacal ages.
Alan: It’s called the Great Zodiac, yeah.
Jackie: The Great Zodiac, because according to, you know, what I’ve read, and I think we’ve talked about it, during the
time when Jesus was here, that’s why they, the sign of the fish, Aquarius. And that was about 2000 years ago. So, isn’t
each of those inner ages about twenty some hundred years?
Alan: Yeah. So, that’s really what it is. It’s broken down. Now, within the Great Cycle, one particular sign
predominates, just as you do in the annular cycle. And so, they have all the mini ones in-between them. So, at the end
of the age, technically, we’re going into, this is Aquarius. And they’ve been arguing about the exact moment of
reaching Aquarius, for the last 60 years. Yeah. And the Theosophy Society came out with different debates on this.
Yeah.
Jackie: So, in this Age, this Great Age, there’s one particular sign predominant?
Alan: That’s Aquarius, the Water Bearer.
Jackie: I mean, the Great Age, the whole 25,000 years.
Alan: They do, they do have a sort of symbol for it, occultic symbol. Some of them have different occultic symbols to
confuse it all, because, they claim that every, and I really, I truly believe this, because, if you were to study, supposing
the so-called civilization as they call it. Let’s take the standard nonsense we’re fed here. Life begins at Sumer, or
civilization begins at Sumer. That’s nonsense. Sumer came on the scene fully fledged as a system, with its money
form, with its even, receipts. You could get a baked clay receipt at the market within 15 minutes. They’ve found
millions of them. And they have all these priesthoods that acted as bureaucrats in governmental departments, you might
say, governing all trade, domestic and foreign.
Jackie: How could a humungous, was Sumer a city?
Alan: It was both city and cities. Some of them include Maree to the Northwest, as part of the whole Sumer area. It
was really Akadia they called it, the whole area. Akadia.
Jackie: Could you spell that?
Alan: Some of them use K, A-K-A-D-I-A.
Jackie: Akadia, A-K, okay.
Alan: Other ones use the C, but it’s up to the person.
Jackie: But how in the world, out of almost nowhere, how did they gather, this many people.
Alan: Well, we know they came down from the Highland areas to the Northeast of them, and they brought the seed with
them, which meant there was a previous agricultural civilization existing to have the seed. You see, nomadic peoples
don’t keep seed and plan. They’re always on the move. So, these people came from the mountainous areas, and
brought this system with them. So they had to have gotten it not only from a previous age. Now, to knock out the
nonsense that we just sort of evolved from there, piecemeal by good luck or whatever, here’s the clue. They knew
astronomy inside out, even at the beginning of Sumer. Now, if you were to follow all of the stars.
Jackie: Even fifteen hundred years ago.
Alan: Yeah, even if you followed all the stars, and all the planets, and the risings and settings, and the different comets
that come and go, etc, to get one great year, you’d have to have studied it for twenty five and a half thousand years
already to be sure it would happen exactly the same way again. You see what I’m saying? If you just watched it one
time around, you couldn’t be certain it was going to come in the same sequence again. So, man is far, far older, with
knowledge, intellect, methods of obviously translating this, or putting this information down and teaching it to others.
To have had that extreme knowledge at the beginning of Sumer. So, that’s the key to that. We’re not supposed to
know. So, getting back to what we’re saying here. They plan the ages. Now, the mini-ages are with each two
thousand, it’s over two thousand years, again another sign will predominate. So, you’ll have within the Great Zodiac,
you had Pisces for the time of Jesus. The fish was the symbol, long before the cross, and even after the cross it was
used for two hundred years before the cross was officially made the Christian symbol. And they had the two thousand
years mapped out. In other words, their goal was mapped out at the beginning.
Jackie: What do you know about the giants that were here?
Alan: I don’t go along with all of that.
Jackie: I’ve been reading some stuff.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: One of the things came from Ohio, and they actually, they actually showed the reports. You know how the little
town halls or the county seats that we have now, where their records were kept. This was maybe 1800 and some time.
They dug up; they found all kinds of bones. And this was reported and it was recorded in the public records. And these
people were eight, nine, ten feet tall, large, and they had double rows of teeth. They showed jaws in them, Alan. And
then, evidently there are some of the American Indians that were here before us. I don’t know, why do we call them
Indians, because.
Alan: Oh, it’s a Masonic con game, yeah.
Jackie: Right. Because, they said they thought he landed on India.
Alan: I know, I know. It’s a Masonic con game, yeah.
Jackie: What kind of words to say for those people. But anyway, but in their lore, a lot of them said that there were
giants here before they were here. And the one story, of course, it’s oral history, so we know where there’s smoke
there’s fire, and I suppose it changes down through the years, but there were red bearded ones and black bearded ones.
And then it reminded me of when we had talked about those red-haired people, you know, like in Egypt, the Pharaohs,
and then over there in China.
Alan: And even the heads of kings and queens for Sumer. We knew they wore black wigs, because they found them in
their graves.
Jackie: They were redheaded too. Well, that reminded me of that, but I’m not so sure, Alan, that there weren’t a very
large race of people here at one time.
Alan: It’s possible that you’ll have aberrations, even within groups. We still have different aberrations in some African
tribes, where they all had six toes, for instance, the whole tribe, every member. And fingers as well. So, you’ll get
these things happening within peoples who interbreed intensively, if there’s already a dominant gene there. It will get
passed on. And they’ll start losing it, if they start breeding out, you see.
Jackie: Well, I’m going to, I’d like to look into this further, I’ve found it very fascinating.
Alan: And the problem with the 1800s, I mean, I know, in the 1800s, there was so many, there was so much going on,
there was an awful lot of con games going on in the 1800s too, in the US, and that’s when P.T. Barnum took over,
because someone came out and claimed they had found a giant, and they put it on display or something, and then it was
stolen. So, he, or some of his friends came up with one, they made it themselves and claimed it was the real thing, and
they toured the whole of the US with it for a few years. And then admitted it was a fake. So, there was so much
nonsense going on at the time, it’s hard to tell, because we weren’t there, really you know.
Jackie: I know, well, we weren’t there for any of this.
Alan: Yeah, yeah. So, really we just don’t know.
Jackie: I just wondered.
Alan: And I don’t know if they’ve even, if they’ve, if they still had, and even then, after the Piltdown Man that was
taught that it was taught as fact, and people had thesis for their universities, and they passed it on this whole Piltdown
Man nonsense.
Jackie: What was the Piltdown Man?
Alan: Well, they had it on display to try and prove it was a missing link for evolution, to try and prove. And then it
came out, after years and years on display and taught in every school across the world as a fact, when they eventually
did test it, the jaw was that of a pig stuck onto a gorilla’s skull. So, they do these cons in history in a big way. And it’s
always the bigger the con the more gullible the people are. It’s a sad truth, you know. It’s a sad, sad truth.
Jackie: Were the, the American Indians weren’t real small people, were they?
Alan: Oh, some of them were pretty tall, especially up here in Canada.
Jackie: So, see, we’re looking at a different race once again. What brought that to my mind is we’re talking today about
Valley Forge, and I said it was so fascinating to go there, and look in those little cabins, the bunks that they slept it. It
was something that I would have been comfortable in, Alan.
Alan: Well, if you look at a lot of the old buildings across Europe, the people lived in, not only that, go into the castles,
that’s what hit me when I was really young. I went off to explore the castles. And the regular guards, the armies had
breastplates that wouldn’t have fit me at thirteen or twelve.
Jackie: Okay, there you go.
Alan: Because, and the normal people you see were starved. They weren’t getting proper diets. That was the reason for
it. See, you can make people stunted in growth by malnourishment. And that’s why the nobility grew to their full
height.
Jackie: Well, I’m talking though about these people that were here in the US, America, back in the 1700s, and they were
meat eaters, Alan. They were small; they were short. I remember at the island in Michigan, Mackinaw Island, there’s a
fort there. And we went there to see the fort. And they said that one of the reasons that they wore those really tall hats
was to make them look more frightening.
Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Because they were shorter. The average was about 5’3”, 5’4” maybe. Well, so, men today are larger. But the
point that I was thinking about was that at that same time, it seemed to be the European whites that were smaller,
shorter. The American Indians were here, and they were of an average or taller height at the time. So, it seems that
from those four hundred years that the males are taller today.
Alan: Everyone is. You see, when you come from Europe, I was astonished to look at the size of people male and
female. The young people.
Jackie: Is it small or big?
Alan: Big. Around the 6 feet mark and so on. And then I caught on to what was the cause. There’s a cause for it,
because the US allowed the growth hormone in food long before they did in Europe. And that hormone is not destroyed
by cooking. It’s in all the meat products. And that’s, it makes you grow, it’s meant to make the cattle grow. Yeah.
That’s the cause of it, yeah. But in World War I.
Jackie: I’m not so sure about that.
Alan: It’s a fact. Check it up. You don’t destroy hormones by boiling them.
Jackie: That growth hormone, from what I read about, they gave it to people a few weeks before market, to fatten them
up.
Alan: That’s what they claim.
Jackie: Yeah. You now have to look that up too.
Alan: But here’s the thing, with Britain for instance. They found in World War I, the average soldier that came in, and
they were all malnourished, they had the worst terrible diet. They averaged around the age of eighteen they were
around 5’2” tall. And within four months of having army food, the best meals they’d ever had in their life, the average
person sprouted six inches in four month.
Jackie: We’re out of our hour.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Okay, thanks folks. Turn into Darren Monday night for sure, and find out more about the vaccine we were
talking about earlier. Alan, thanks.
Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Thanks for listening folks. Good Night. God Bless you.
September 28th, 2006
Alan Watt on “Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru
Jackie Patru: Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight, here on Sweet
Liberty. It is Thursday, and it is the 28th of September in the year 2006. We’re on, not usually Thursday
Nights, as you know. Last night, Alan was our guest. And we were in a conversation. And I hoped that we
would be able to pick it up this evening. I don’t know where it’s going to go. I don’t know. We never know
anyway, do we Alan?
Alan Watt: It’s a long and winding road.
Jackie: It’s a long and winding road and a wheel within a wheel. And when we were closing, last night, Alan,
my parting comments, I believe, you know, we do, we have, since 1998, have been on the air together a lot,
and of course, the history that you have given us, and the people who’s eyes have been opened because of
the information that has been imparted, and the one thing for me, that has been missing, as I said last night,
it feels that each program, at least part of each program, some place in it, would touch on the spiritual issues.
Because, we have touched on so much. I mean, there has been a lot of conversation about religion, and you
have said without any qualms, without any ifs ands or buts, all religions are manmade, and they were made
by man to control the mind, the beliefs, and therefore the behavior of people. And the people who have
listened, many of our listeners have begun to realize that the religion that they have selected for were born
into, has been a lie. And as I said, it’s left a lot of people, and I don’t have a count, my phone calls that I’ve
received, letters I’ve received, but mostly phone calls, now that I’m not doing short wave anymore, people
feeling lost, floundering, literally, because they’re, they realize the religion, the lies that religions have been
teaching. And yet, what is there for somebody to hold on to. What is there for somebody, and not another
myth, you see. And that’s why I asked if we could pick this up tonight. I don’t know where we’re going to go
with it, or what you would be willing to talk about.
Alan: It’s a quandary really for people, because they generally jump out of one religion into another. And
that’s the standard path that they take. And yet, I keep saying, over and over, if this is the place where
matter and spirit meet, and since this is a very important place for it to happen, since it’s the only place for it
to happen, therefore what you do in this life is of utmost importance. Therefore, you find your way towards
one by living in the other. You work your way towards something, which comes, which comes with time, if
you’re doing all the right things. Which generally are not just for yourself. You help yourself as a side effect
of doing the right thing. And it’s a complete reevaluation of everything which you held dear, previously. The
old story about dying the death to be reborn, was an ancient saying. And it’s ancient, and it’s modern at the
same time, because it’s the same path, everyone must take, at least to start off with, where you truly look
around all the things that you’ve chased all your life, the younger ones are being chased to going after the
same things at the moment, and you for the first time truly evaluate them. And you make a distinguishing
line between one and the other, what truly is important in this life. And quite a few years ago, you
remember, a guy phoned me in, and, I think, yeah, he phoned I think. And he said, you’ve got to get a
computer Alan, he says. This has become my best friend, my therapist, it’s become everything to me. And I
said to him, you’ll lose yourself in the process, I says, because you can die, and you can have that glass
screen next to you as you’re dying, but personally, I’d rather have a human hand holding mine.
So, we’re caught up in the time, where science has become the sub-god, you might say, of this system.
We’ve all been trained that if an expert says something, in a white coat, then it’s the gospel truth. And yet,
science is taking us into a form of oblivion, for ourselves, albeit almost a painless one, eventually, as people
go through the changes. They’re already adapting to them. But we’re losing every single thing, the
uniqueness of being human in the process.
Jackie: And what is the uniqueness?
Alan: And that’s the question that people have to ask themselves. Do they want to go on this path, that’s
already been chosen, by the elite for us, or are they going to start now, and standing up and saying no.
That’s their personal choice.
Jackie: Saying no to what’s happening? Is that what you’re saying.
Alan: To where we’re being directed, yeah. We have lost so many things, just in the last fifty years, that we
used to call our humanity. We have lost the sacredness of life, number one. That’s why it was always held
up, even in the courts they had to hold it up, because of the religious traditions, which at least had that
correct, that life itself was a sacred thing. We’ve watched ourselves being allowed. We’ve actually helped,
enabled it to happen.
Jackie: How?
Alan: All the way to abortion.
Jackie: How have we helped an enabled it, Alan?
Alan: Pardon?
Jackie: How have we helped and enabled it?
Alan: Because, because our own drives. We were told, unshackle your drives, let them go. You don’t have to
hold them back any more. You don’t have to be morally or personally responsible for your drives. That was
the first part.
Jackie: Well, yeah, but.
Alan: Then it was encouraged from the top. It was called the Sexual Revolution was, do your own thing.
There’s something there to take care of any fall out. Don’t worry just do it. Then the next part, of course,
we’ve already seen the business that’s been flourishing quietly, and now it’s in the open, to do with body
parts and stem cells. It’s a flourishing business.
Jackie: I know it is, but what does this have to do with.
Alan: And we think, we think, and we graze all through this, accepting it, until it’s now normal.
Jackie: Alan, your talking though, with like a great big huge wide brush. And like, everybody has accepted it.
Alan: Well, do you want me to be specific and name names? We’re talking to everybody, because everybody
knows what I mean. Most people have drifted through this as though it didn’t affect them. It didn’t affect
them. And of course, it has affected us, because a lot of the listeners out there have already had
inoculations, and they use fetal tissue to make them. And their children have as well. So, our silence, as we
drifted through this ‘60s, ‘70s, and ‘80s period, has enabled them to go so far, and with every bit of our
humanity we give away, it makes it easier to give the next part away.
Jackie: Yes. And once again, I’m not asking you to name names, but people who got vaccines, I had my two
daughter vaccinated, Alan, not because I didn’t care or love my daughters, because I didn’t know any better.
And maybe when an individual finds out the dangers of these, and continues to do it, then they would fit in
that group that is going along with it. But not everybody goes along with this. Not everybody does.
Alan: You’d be surprised with how much people go along with so many things which are wrong, because it’s
over there that it’s happening, or it’s in another part of the country or whatever. Everything comes round to
each eventually; everything that happens anywhere on the planet, eventually comes round to us. And this
was something that was at one time understood. That’s why there was such indignation when something
terrible was happening somewhere else, and we demand that it be stopped or whatever. But today, it’s
almost as though everything is remote from us, because we have been depersonalized, scientifically,
gradually, until even, say the family is pretty well non-existent today. That too. Everything has been attacked
with gradualism, and now the state has become the god. Now many people saw this coming, and wrote
about it. Like I say, Carl Jung, who warned us all about the future we were allowing to happen. But because
it was supposedly the good times, the music, the sex, the drugs, the do your own thing, the shackles are off,
it was so much fun to do it all.
Jackie: Are you, let me ask you this, you know, maybe, since I’ve been doing the broadcast, Sweet Liberty,
I’ve had a sense of our listeners. In the beginning, when I was on short wave, the majority of our listeners
were fundamentalists, Christian, that you know, the Old Testament, the New Testament, dichotomy, every
word was true, regardless, and it’s come such a long way, that I, my sense of the people who are listening to
this broadcast today, they’re not listening out of a desire for entertainment, because the conversations are
just too intense for people to be entertained by them. I wonder would you…
Alan: I know that, but it’s also people too, who want to hear what they want to hear.
Jackie: Well, do you think?
Alan: They also call me.
Jackie: They call you, yes, but the people that are listening to this broadcast, do you think they’re listening,
because they’re…
Alan: They’re from a broad spectrum out there. However, we’ve all gone through the same things, really, I
mean, pretty well.
Jackie: Well, yes, we have. I was wondering if, tonight, maybe you would speak to an audience that you
know, that a lot of them have come out of the lies are in a process of coming out of the lies, and I wonder if
you would speak to that understanding that so many of our listeners are coming to, rather than throwing this
out there, like you know, we all are the mass, and we’ve all done this, and I’ve done things. As I said, the
vaccinations. I had no idea. And there was evidently within me, some, thank heaven, knowing that when the
mumps and the measles and these vaccines came out, and I got the calls from the doctors office, I said, no.
I wasn’t going to do it. It wasn’t because, oh, I realized that it is creating autism, or that there is Mercury in
it, or aluminum. People, many people, who vaccinated their children, did it because they love their children,
and truly believed that it was the right thing to do.
Alan: Yeah, because they worship the white coats.
Jackie: I didn’t worship white coats, Alan.
Alan: They were already trained. I mean, I was a toddler when we got all the US reruns of Ben Casey and
Dr. Killdare and all this kind of stuff. Through drama the people were propagandized into seeing these people
differently than they actually were. And there’s more of it today than there ever was before, actually, with
CSI and all the rest of them. They give a fictional account.
Jackie: You think a great majority of our listeners are in that mode, in that frame of mind.
Alan: There’s hardly a person that escaped the subtle indoctrination, it’s very direct, that came through the
TV era. It’s given them so many opinions and all that. It really has directed them in different ways. That’s
what it was given out to the public to do. Just as the computer followed it. I always say that the tools we
are given are really, the secondary effect is that we can use them, but never the primary reason that they’re
given out. They’re given out for more control purposes. Information has always been controlled, because
you come to conclusions according to how much or what type of information you’re given. But mostly
behavior is done through fiction. We emulate what we see. And that’s always been understood. So, see the
people who are looking for answers, have to be responsible for the knowledge that they already have. You
don’t sit with it. You don’t sit with. There’s no point in teaching someone to sit at home and purr like a cat.
You must use it.
Jackie: What does that mean?
Alan: Many people want comfort. They want to be told, there, there, everything will be okay for you. That,
that’s, I’ll leave that to the New Age Movement, that tells them all nothing is real anyway, so don’t worry
about it, and life will just go on and on forever, for them. That is what I mean. People have to realize that
here, as they walk the planet, they have a job to use the information they have. And that means risking
losing friends. They’re not your friends anyway, if they walk away. It means, you take the data, you
photocopy it, you do whatever you can with it, and you pass it out. I know people who do that.
Jackie: I know you do. And I do also. So.
Alan: And they are concerned, not just about themselves. They’re concerned about others. And that’s what
we have to hold onto. Because the system has been trying for years to break that connection between
people. The “I’m all right Jack” type society. We must hang on to that, that need to share with other people
our concerns for their sake, as well. But you can teach people forever, who will never ever use it. And that’s
a waste of time. People have to use it. They’ve got to stick their heads up above the trenches and get the
information out. Even if you only eventually change five people in your lifetime, you’ve done more than most.
Jackie; Yes. And I don’t know how many people you’ve talked to, I would think that you have, that have
listened to this broadcast, that have called you that have called you, that have called me, that have lost their
friends, and their families, many people, lose their families because of it. That’s, what I’m saying is, that the
mind that the heart of people that I talk to, they’re not what you’re talking about right now. And that’s why,
and we’ve talked about this, since 1998, and that’s why I was hoping maybe this evening that we don’t do
the general all over, you know, that’s what everybody does. I don’t, there’s many of our listeners that they’ve
sacrificed, well, their friends and their family.
Alan: They’ve not sacrificed it. They were never yours anyway.
Jackie: No, no, it feels like, yes, but, you know what. It feels like a sacrifice when it happens.
Alan: The change is within the person, and it’s nothing to be ashamed of. And it’s definitely nothing to
regret. Truth has a price. In everything in this world, there’s a cause and an effect. And when you get truth.
Jackie: Yeah, I used the wrong word. I did use the wrong word. Sacrifice. And I said, it feels like a sacrifice
when it happened. It is within them that they have an impelling urging to share what they know. And
because of that, they’ve lost friends, they’ve lost family. Many of them, Alan. I’ve talked, over these past ten
in the half years, I couldn’t even guess the number of people that I’ve spoken with. They feel like loners.
They feel alone. In fact, that’s a lot of times why they call, because they have sometimes to talk to
somebody that they can relate with. And that’s, there’s a lot of people in our listening audience, that fit that.
Alan: Yes. But you know, I don’t see it the same way, you see.
Jackie: You don’t.
Alan: I don’t view that the same way. When you have broken away, and it will call it the mass, the
stereotype.
Jackie: The what?
Alan: The mass, you might say. The stereotype. When you’ve broken out of it, even though, you’ll still see,
even though you’ll still see, or have a feeling for the old once and a while, you should really go on and be
thankful, in a sense, to rejoice even, because there’s nothing more wonderful than breaking through. There’s
nothing to compare with it. You can have sadness at those you’ve left behind, and the knowledge that they’ll
probably always be there. Not necessarily so, but probably, there’s a good chance. But you rejoice in the
fact that you’ve broken through. When you can break through this system, with all of the sciences behind it
and the wisdom of the ages, that’s meant to keep you in a mental strait jacket from birth till death, when
you’ve overcome that, you’ve overcome the world, and you can go on from there. And yes, you won’t be part
of the crowd, but that’s part of what you sought after. When you look, don’t ask for it on your conditions.
Jackie: Yes. I found that out. I found that out.
Alan: Yeah. You want truth with no attachments. You don’t want any guarantees. And I say to people all
the time, do you really want truth, are you sure? And I’ll warn them. You’ll never be the same again. And
I’ll say, what’s dear to you. And they’ll tell me what’s dear to them, and generally by that I will go further
with them or not.
Jackie: In other words, what if they said, my family is dear to me.
Alan: Then I’d ask them, just how dear. Would you be willing to sacrifice losing them? And if they wouldn’t.
Jackie: So, it is a sacrifice in your mind.
Alan: To them it is, not to me. See, there’s a new belonging, you see. You only belong with that which is on
the same walk as yourself. You can’t go back when you’ve opened Pandora’s Box.
Jackie: You can never go back, no.
Alan: No.
Jackie: No, I know that.
Alan: And so, you certainly, see, you’ve left, as I say, the mass man, behind. You’ve walked out of that room
forever, and if you still have nostalgia, then that can play on you, and that can bring you down again.
Jackie: Nostalgia.
Alan: But you still can’t go back, because you can’t. So you have a choice to work your way through it and
realize that whether you like it or not, you’re not one of them anymore.
Jackie: And when that does happen, I’ve experienced it. Of course, I’m not, you know, at that point where
I’m walking on water. When the tension comes between you and your loved ones and family, your children,
or anybody in family, because of what you know, and because you are so compelled to share it. And then
they’ll say, oh, please don’t start preaching again. Well, Alan, that hurts. And it seems to me…
Alan: And that’s why I always tell them, don’t preach to your family, yeah.
Jackie: Well, is it preaching?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Is it preaching when you find, oh, well wait a minute, how do you know it’s preaching unless I say.
Alan: Preaching is when you are speaking on something, which they cannot possibly at the moment relate to,
and they let you know it.
Jackie: In other words, if you’re talking about some new information you found out on a particular product
they might be using, that is damaging livers, now.
Alan: To them, if they have no interest in it themselves, then you’re just being a control freak.
Jackie: Alan, isn’t it a possibility. I mean, this is a little bit of a double standard here we’ve got, because we
have to, as you just said, we have got to stand up. We have got to do, share information that we have.
Maybe our responsibility is to say that, and then let it go, knowing that they’re going to make the choice.
Alan: Yeah, but how many people do you know who can let it go?
Jackie: I’m talking about this particular situation, any particular situation where we finally realize that there
are certain people who will and certain people who won’t. And interestingly, when it’s your family, and
they’re in your heart, it hurts even though, even though, you’re compelled to, it hurts. And I’m not sure,
because maybe I misunderstood, but it seems like what you said is, you’ve got to get through that, and, you
know, if you even have nostalgia, it’s going to hold you back. Does that mean, does that mean that we have
to quit feeling, Alan?
Alan: You have to be able to handle feelings.
Jackie: Pardon?
Alan: You have to be able to handle feelings in a different way. And every, every.
Jackie: You mean it can hurt, and you can accept the hurt. Do you mean that?
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Well, okay, fine. But at least.
Alan: In every religion, in every single religion, you have the same allegories over and over and over that
when the person changes, you never look back. There are reasons for not looking back. And in every, every,
every single religion out there, all of them, when you change yourself, you belong to a different family. Every
one.
Jackie: Do you see, or I don’t know, in your comprehension, I know it’s difficult for you to relate, from, it
seems, you know, you’re very beginnings, there wasn’t much you didn’t know. But do you see, that people
are in certain steps. Everybody isn’t at the same level of awakening or understanding. And so, to take it to
the very nth degree, and say if you can’t do this, you may as well not even try.
Alan: I wouldn’t try to wake someone up who hasn’t taken the first step themselves. Asking questions
outside the box.
Jackie: Okay. We have to take a break here. And folks, stay with us. We’re going to be back.
(Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back. And Alan, are you there?
Alan: Yep.
Jackie: Okay, well, we were talking. You had mentioned that sharing with people, and people who’s journey,
if you would, to spiritual consciousness is, you know, on a different path. Each, I don’t mean different.
Maybe a different, a different level if you would on the journey. And you said that you wouldn’t even, not talk
to somebody, but, I don’t know what you said, but you said, unless they would ask questions outside the box.
Alan: You wouldn’t teach them something outside of their knowledge, their present knowledge, unless they
were asking questions.
Jackie: Why would you have to teach them if it was already their knowledge though?
Alan: I just said, if they didn’t have it in them. That they were not expressing questions, the right kind of
questions, then there’s no point. If you try to teach someone who hasn’t asked the questions, you’re actually
nagging them. It’s no different than a born-againer coming along, and preaching the gospel to you over and
over. It’s outside of their present reality. They can’t relate to it. So you can only teach people, and I hear it
so often, because the first thing they want to do, it’s like conversion, you want to convert the person next
store to you, or next to you. And it ends up in chaos for them. It makes a hell on earth for themselves and
their wife or husband or whoever. If you truly love a person, and you know where they are in their mindset,
if you truly love them, and you know if they’ve been asking questions or not about, as I say, outside the box,
if you truly love them, and they haven’t been asking the questions, leave them in peace. You’re not loving
someone when you start to nag them. And that’s how they see it. And that causes so much conflict.
Tremendous conflict. And you have to be able to accept that that person might never have any inclination to
ask the right questions, because they are making decisions.
Jackie: I’ve had, I’ve had experiences, well, actually, conversations with people, who have told me that I said
something and they didn’t get it. And I said the same thing again, another way, and they finally got it. But
maybe it took several, several times. Those were things I didn’t know about, until I was told about. But I
don’t see the difference in that, and in saying something, and leave it go after you’ve said it. Leave it go,
because how do you know, at what point they’re going to “get it”, Alan.
Alan: Yeah, but you’re differentiating between just planting the occasional seed and leaving it, and then,
wanting to save those around you. These are two different things altogether. We’re talking about
generalities with the occasional person, when they’ve listened to the radio or whatever, or they’ve already
been asking questions, that’s why they listen to these kinds of shows. So, they’re asking questions. Just by
seeking they’re asking the questions.
Jackie: Exactly. Thank you.
Alan: But other people, as I say, those right next to you, who like the idea of the world as it’s been presented
and reinforced to them. You can’t just walk in and say, “Hey. You’ve got it all wrong.” “You have to
understand this.” That’s a typical expression they’ll use.
Jackie: Well, maybe it is. I’m not talking about being that blunt. I’m not talking about being that blunt, and
saying you’ve got to get this or else, or whatever.
Alan: And as I say, in every religion, you have little keys to truths which are buried from the masses, because
they’re never really explained to the masses by the priests or preachers who are set up there. And even in
the West, for the Christian side, they have the same thing. They tell you a little story, a little allegory, with a
truth contained within. And in the West, it was Jesus, and his family comes to visit, and wants to get to the
head of the crowd, and right up to Jesus. And he’s told they’re there in the audience, and he says, “Well,
who is my mother? Who is my father? Who are my brothers and sisters?” Meaning, those of the same
mindset were really his family.
Jackie: I think people will understand that. Don’t you? That we have.
Alan: They might understand it, but they don’t understand the truth of it, you see.
Jackie: You mean, the truth of the fact that those of us who are really family are of the same mind. You
think they don’t understand.
Alan: Definitely, or they’re walking on the same path. Or there’s someone behind you somewhere.
Jackie: There you go.
Alan: But regardless.
Jackie: Yeah.
Alan: You’ve broken out of the traditions.
Jackie: There you go, yes.
Alan: You’ve broken away from, you’ve already broken away from what was supposed to be the set of norms,
and you have to accept that you are giving up that. And that was the whole point of truth. There are no
guarantees with it. It doesn’t say you’re going to have perpetual bliss. That’s for the New Agers that think
themselves in fantasy, and purr, as I say, like a cat forever. Truth will take you through mountains and
valleys.
Jackie: And so will love, won’t it, Alan.
Alan: Oh, that too, because with everything, there are two sides of everything.
Jackie: Yes.
Alan: You can’t truly have a picture of anything, unless you truly experience both sides; the pain, the
ecstasy, everything. These are all growing experiences. And it’s out of all of these things that the spiritual
side will develop. You can’t do it without it.
Jackie: The spiritual side will develop.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Yes.
Alan: You cannot bypass it. You can’t take shortcuts. You can’t just throw down money and say, teach me
this. And I’ve had offers. One guy offered $140,000 if I’d just give him the bottom line.
Jackie: The bottom line of what?
Alan: Truth and reality.
Jackie: Like you know it.
Alan: Yeah, here’s the money, give me my copy.
Jackie: And then, anything you say to him, he’ll say, that’s it, because Alan Watt said it. That’s the guru.
Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: That’s what I told you last night, Alan. This isn’t funny really. It isn’t funny.
Alan: But that’s how people are.
Jackie: No, that isn’t how people are. That’s how people are with you.
Alan: There’s a lot of people, a lot of people are like that. And if you think I’m wrong, just look at the
professional gurus in California.
Jackie: Alan. I know that, I understand that, but what I’m saying is, I said this last night that you have
become like a guru to a lot of people.
Alan: Yeah, that’s why I keep telling them.
Jackie: And they think you know everything.
Alan: Yeah. That’s why I tell them, you know, don’t become me.
Jackie: Or believe everything I say.
Alan: You have to think for yourself. That too, check everything. And you must find yourself. You must find
who you are.
Jackie: That’s good. Last night, when we were talking, and I mentioned to you, some, and I’m switching us
grossly here, but it’s kind of in the same vein. You had mentioned, back in May, in fact, I checked on the
date, because I wanted to make sure. It was the 17th of May this year, and that was when you said you talk
to people one on one, and you’re deprogramming them, and then you’re reprogramming them. And last
night I asked you, who has the right to program anybody. And you said, well, you know, the best you can do
is to give them a place to go or a start. And I said, is that what you mean by reprogramming. And you said,
no. And so, I wonder, when you talk about programming somebody’s mind, Alan, do you, or does anybody
have a right to do it?
Alan: You do if they’re completely, utterly at their wit’s end.
Jackie: Programming their mind.
Alan: Many, many of them are at their wit’s end. Dangerously so.
Jackie: What does programming somebody’s mind mean then. Because maybe I’m looking at it.
Alan: When you deprogram someone, you can’t leave a blank sheet, or you’ve got a zombie.
Jackie: So you reprogram.
Alan: You give a basic there, a basis for them to begin with. What they do with it is up to them.
Jackie: Okay. So, you’re not really programming somebody’s mind.
Alan: No, I’m not. I’m not indoctrinating anybody.
Jackie: Well, that’s what you’re said, you’re reprogramming them.
Alan: No, I’m not indoctrinating anybody, Jackie. I know you want to believe that, because you keep saying it
over and over, and I’ve told you I’m not doing that.
Jackie: No, excuse me, Alan. No you said reprogramming, and I heard reprogramming, that’s why I asked
you to explain it the way you meant it.
Alan: If someone asks you for reality, what would you call what you give them?
Jackie: If somebody asks.
Alan: A suggestion?
Jackie: Excuse me.
Alan: Is it a suggestion or a truth?
Jackie: If somebody asks for reality, I wouldn’t know what to give them, because I don’t know what is reality.
I don’t. I’m not there, Alan, you know, that I have every answer.
Alan: Well, what you give them, if they can handle it, is a basic platform to begin with.
Jackie: Like.
Alan: And if they want to go on with it, they can carry on themselves, or they can get back to you.
Jackie: Okay.
Alan: But at least they’ve got more to stand on than they had before.
Jackie: Okay. Well, that isn’t programming somebody’s mind. Not in the way I took it. And thank you, Alan.
Alan: It’s not mind control. It’s not mind control.
Jackie: Now, well, you used the word reprogramming, and you know, that has been such a topic of our
conversations, how peoples minds have been programmed that when you said, I reprogram them, as I said, it
slipped me by, when you first said it, and then I thought about it, and I said, wait a minute reprogramming.
Alan: Listen, let me put it straight to you and then you can get off the topic. If someone asks me for a truth,
and they’re in a bad way, I’ll ask them how bad they are. I’ll ask them what they’ve already looked at. I’ll
see where the core of their problem lies, and if they’re really serious, and I think they’re in trouble, I will give
them a basic, grounding to stand on. But as I say, I’d leave it to them where they go with it.
Jackie: That’s good. That isn’t programming somebody’s mind.
Alan: It’s all semantics.
Jackie: It’s a word that we’ve used a lot, and you have to forgive me, Alan. You gave me what I was asking
for.
Alan: Jackie, you won’t let it go, will you? We should move over this, and go on to the next thing, because
it’s explained. Unless you don’t think it is explained.
Jackie: No, it isn’t that I don’t think it’s explained. No. But it. I know, but I’m going to say something else
about it again, and then you’re going to say, you won’t let it go, will you.
Alan: But you won’t you see. If something is your bondage, you won’t let it go. If it wasn’t bugging you,
you’d let it go. So, there’s another reason why it’s bugging you.
Jackie: And maybe it’s bugging you. Maybe I’m bugging you, Alan.
Alan: If you keep on about it, there’s an intent somewhere, which is different from what I’m hearing.
Jackie: Okay, so in other words, I won’t have the last word. And then everything.
Alan: If that’ important. If that’s important. That’s silly. Yeah.
Jackie: You really have a way with words, don’t you, Alan.
Alan: Not words.
Jackie: Yes.
Alan: It’s not words.
Jackie: Okay. Alright. Well, so, we have ten, about ten minutes left here. Where do we go with this?
Alan: Well, the topic really is about a spiritual side of someone who’s breaking out of this conditioned reality,
where everyone has had the same conditioning. Minor variations, minor degrees of different things, maybe
even abuse, because it’s an abusive system. And however, we’ve all gone through the same spectrum road,
you might say. To be trained in the same things, the same ways of looking at things, the same
understandings and conclusions, and that’s mass indoctrination. It’s a lifelong indoctrination, where we don’t
have to think for ourselves. The answers are debated on television by experts, and we pick the one we like
best. That’s why they always give you two opposing sides, to politics or what a president just said, or
whatever. Everything is given to us on a plate. And we don’t really participate in anything, see.
Jackie: And we’ve talked about this, many, many times, haven’t we.
Alan: Yeah, and so therefore, if you truly want to break out of the system, you have to take the responsibility
of having a purpose now. You have a purpose. Most people who don’t really know what’s wrong, will be told
by the system, that it’s themselves that’s wrong. Therefore they go to psychiatrists or councilors or therapy
meetings or group meetings and so on, and yet, still inside there’s an emptiness there, and it’s because they
have no purpose. No real reason for being. And that gnaws away at them. So, when you break out of the
box, and you realize, wait a minute, you can be quite correct with what you’re saying, as a minority of one.
You don’t need the majority vote here, or the majority conclusions, and so it’s alright to be different from the
rest. And you’ve broken free. And you are breaking free. And you take the consequence, yeah. You might
be lonely at times, but there’s an added benefit, because now your mind is totally free. And it becomes more
free all the time. The more you want to hang on to things, the more it will hold you back. The more
depressed you’ll become on and off, and you’ll go through a roller coaster, until you understand that you
don’t belong to the same people any more. You’ve moved on.
Jackie: And the spiritual side of that individual, that is the beginning of the development.
Alan: It’s a road, yep. It’s a road. And sometimes it doesn’t seem clear. But, if the tragedies happen, the
hope happens as well, and the reality of the fulfillment of the hope happens. As I say, you have mountains
and valleys, and each time, your mind really expands with understanding, and you think you’ve reached the
top of a mountain, you’re down in a valley again to digest it for a while, before you go up the next mountain.
There’s so much to know.
Jackie: That’s like being the little, the big frog in the little pond, and then when you come to a new
understanding, you’re like the little tiny frog in a great big huge pond.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Yes.
Alan: And so, you’ve got to, it’s a matter of leaving behind and taking the risks. Leaving behind all that was
to become something that will be. And the choice is yours, but you have to let go of many things too.
Jackie: Yes. And I’m going to repeat what you said, is that, there are people, right now, who are breaking
out of that. And it is the beginning of their journey. And that was, I’m not sure that I express myself in the
way that. Well, I grope for words, Alan. But when we were talking about people being on different paths or
different levels. I don’t know the words that would be appropriate there, but you just said it, and I appreciate
that. That everybody is on, just awakening, opening their eyes, it’s just an ongoing and ongoing process, and
there are many different stages of that.
Alan: Yeah. And that’s what I’m saying. Sometimes you get a glimpse of a higher truth, that can be almost
overwhelming, and that’s the reward that you’ve really sought. And it comes in different periods and each
one is worth all that you think you may have lost. But by that time, anyway, you know that you’ve really lost
nothing at all. You’ve gained far more than most people. And as I say, you’ve overcome the world, a
tremendous breakthrough. Tremendous breakthrough. Tremendous. Against all odds.
Jackie: Are you saying that that very beginning is overcoming the world, because that first step is taken,
Alan?
Alan: When, you’ve cast off everything and reevaluated everything, because you have, you’ve changed. Once
you’ve changed completely, you will see everything differently, everything.
Jackie: Yes.
Alan: You would have a deeper insight into yourself. Into why you used to think this way, even about
acquaintances or loved ones and so on, but, at the same time, you’ve now broken through and left them. It
made be sad to say, but you’ve left them. And you must go on from there, and go higher.
Jackie: And maybe we’ve let them, or maybe the separation just happened.
Alan: Yeah, you know, it’s a separation.
Jackie: And there’s just one more, and once again, I’ll ask your forgiveness when I ask this question, it isn’t to
be argumentative, but to get in my mind the cognitiveness, of this message. Because, you said, a couple or
three times, when people begin to suddenly awaken, the spiritual side then will begin to develop, and then, in
the past, and at other times, everybody doesn’t have spirit. We have to call it to us.
Alan: It’s something that comes to you. And it’s not channeling or even asking for something to come to you.
Jackie: It’s just something that is within.
Alan: You know, that there’s a knowledge coming closer and closer as you seek the same thing, you’re
seeking it, it’s coming closer and closer. And as I say, when you die to the old world system, and it’s old
values, and indoctrinations, then it happens much quicker. Not everybody can pass everything on.
Jackie: The differentiation that I hope to make here, is because you had said on one program, not Sweet
Liberty, that there is a spirit that’s made for everybody, but we have to call it.
Alan: That’s what they always called your, your true soul mate is what they used to call it.
Jackie: And then you said, spirit doesn’t always come to everybody.
Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Well, do you. What does that mean? Does that mean that there’s something.
Alan: It doesn’t come, because you see, not everybody is honest about the thing in the first place, honest
with themselves.
Jackie: No, we’re talking about people who are calling spirit to them, and spirit doesn’t always come.
Alan: Yeah, and you don’t have to call it that either, you can call it anything you want. It’s wisdom. It’s
something much bigger than all of this. Much, much bigger. It’s not traditional channeling or spirit guides, or
stuff like that.
Jackie: No, I’m not talking about that Alan.
Alan: It’s way beyond all of that, and it’s always been the same in every age.
Jackie: And it is within each and every one of us.
Alan: It’s, the innate capacity would be there.
Jackie: Yes, that would be it, wouldn’t it?
Alan: Would be there, however there’s also choice of the physical, and the physical person as well has a
personality. And most choose never to go in that direction.
Jackie: In what direction?
Alan: To seek something bigger. The other part.
Jackie: Oh, no, but I was talking about those who were seeking.
Alan: Yeah, they truly are seeking, and they’ve been honest with themselves, because you can’t get it, it
won’t happen, it won’t happen unless you can stand back and look at yourself, and your whole life, and
everything you’ve ever done in your life. It won’t happen otherwise.
Jackie: And that’s like calling something into us that isn’t there. That’s going to make a choice.
Alan: That would be another way, yeah.
Jackie: That’s going to make a choice whether we’re going to get it or not. See, that’s kind of a
hopelessness, isn’t it Alan.
Alan: It’s hopeless for people like that.
Jackie: Is it?
Alan: You can’t take who you are with you, with the guarantees that you will be you.
Jackie: But somebody who dotes on you, and everything you say, and they’re truly wanting truth, and they’re
seeking and they’re calling, and they hear, well, spirit doesn’t always come. And you know what, I’ve talked
to people who have gotten very upset with wondering, is spirit going to come when they call. We’re out of
time.
Alan: You can’t whistle for it, no.
Jackie: I know.
Alan: No. It will come when you are honest with yourself.
Jackie: It will come.
Alan: When you are honest with yourself and about yourself.
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And now, here’s your host, Jackie Petru
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen
Thank you for joining us tonight here on Sweet Liberty
Once again, today is the 23rd of August In the year 2006
And last week, Alan was with us, Alan Wadd
We were talking at the end of the broadcast
I wanted to talk about the language, the words and the meanings
Not just the meanings of the words, but the esoteric
And possibly in that area
Our spiritual message here tonight is one that I have sticking up and I’ve done this a few times
And I’m going to do it again tonight, it’s from A Course in Miracles from the textbook
Page 149
Fear of the will of God is one of the strangest beliefs the human mind has ever made
Fear of the will of God is one of the strangest beliefs that the human mind has ever made
But who gave us that fear, folks, when you think about it
And when you look at the God of the Old Testament
I can’t imagine anyone not fearing the will of our Creator
And that’s just part of the tricks that they’ve been pulling on us
Alan, thanks for being here again tonight
Yeah, it’s a pleasure, yeah
Yeah, and that’s what they’ve done, isn’t it? They’ve put the fear of God
Well, you see, you don’t have to fear now
We can always give them a prosaic caravallium
Because that is the Old Testament, God could be a bit unstable
What, give the Old Testament God prosaic?
Yeah, I think so
It doesn’t seem to be a happy character
How are you going to do that, Alan?
No, I don’t know, I guess, to ask an expert
You know, speaking of that, which isn’t our topic tonight that I wanted to address
But speaking of that in a conversation with one of our listeners today
He mentioned that the plan in this system to have a drugged-up society
Oh, it’s always been there, that’s admitted that
It’s not a secret
I think it was in the 70s that the British Medical Association came up with a statistic
on valium and libraium, they’re just kind of similar at the time
And they said that over, I think, 45% of all British women were on it
That was in the 70s
Oh my goodness
And I’d imagine it’d be more even in some parts of the US
Well, they even had comedies about it, you know, where someone falls at an airport
and everybody rushes out with their valium
So they were really throwing all that stuff out to the great panacea, the thing, the Q-Roll
For all your friends
Whatever, Al, I was telling him that I remember back around 93, 94
When Al Gore was president, Chipper
Chipper, right?
Yeah
Chipper Gore
I guess she had had a drug addiction at one time
Or something, but she had used these psychotropic drugs
And she was giving a talk like she was an expert to a large group of people
And it was on C-SPAN
And not knowing what I know today, when I saw that, Alan, all she was doing was lauding and praising
The benefits and the, you know, what all of these pills can do
And I remember putting out an action alert about something
But I addressed it and I said it appears to me that their solution for anything that ails us
Is a psychotropic drug
And I have a vision in my mind of just a world of zombies
Yeah, well, that’s what Aldo Huxley said at that
There actually a meeting which is on my website
You can hear it
He said that was wrong, was wrong
So physically giving the public something that takes all their worries away
Is that the one that he did at the California at the college there?
Yeah
We got that on our website
Yeah, and I’ve got it online
And to say that, he was into that there
Because he spoke for the elite
Part of the Tavistock Institute
Which has massive think tanks all working on how to control the minds of the public
And he said, you know, most people to say are unhappy
That’s what he said
Oh, and those are happy pills?
Yeah, and so they’re, what’s wrong in giving the people drugs to make them happy?
They won’t be realistic, they won’t be living in a reality, but they’ll be happy
And that is the psychiatric, the whole thing of psychiatry
Is geared towards not so much the cause of the thing, but the treatment or something
Yeah, well Alan, think about this
They won’t be happy, they won’t be unhappy, they won’t be happy
Because there are no feelings
So that’s BS
And it’s not just that, it gets me, I mean there’s more to all of this
See, when you see that the inoculations and what they’ve done to the public intentionally
There’s no doubt once you go through the history of inoculations, it’s intentional
The autism and the degrees of autism up to various learning deficiencies
That’s all part of the same thing
Which came on about the 50s onwards
With the increase of inoculations
Yes, but when they started putting the Samarasal in
Yes
And that’s been more recent
They were way beyond Samarasal
They put things in there which literally were meant to go to certain parts of your brain
And that is what Arthur Kossler talked about in The Ghost and the Machine
And he worked for UN think tanks
To actually find ways of doing this, targeting the brain
And the bottoming the public
So they were way ahead, they’ll never ever tell you the truth of what they’ve been up to
But when you see they’ve been doing it in that area
You can pretty well go into all the other drugs
Especially the tranquilizer and so on
Well you know what that makes me think about
Charles Galton Darwin
In his book The Next Million Years, when he talks about using hormones
Those hormones that, how did he regulate every phase of the physical body
You know, I always thought about hormones balance
In my mind as male and female hormones
You know, but there’s hundreds of hormones
Maybe thousands are there
Oh, there’s so many
They regulate the entire body
And he said that in his book, and I think it was 52 wasn’t it, his book
The Next Million Years
Okay, when the article that I was reading
It was from Canada, it was a doctor over there about estrogen dominance
And he said in the past 20 years
Okay, so, or did he say 40
It coincided, it had to have been the past 40 years
Because it coincided with when Darwin’s book came out
All of the Xenoestrogens that are in F
They say there are 60,000 sources of the Xenoestrogens
Causing estrogen dominance
And a lot of women who can’t get pregnant or they’ll get pregnant
And then just immediately abort it
That’s what Kirk Newby told us
He said it’s like a morning after pill
And that’s why the food that is being eaten today
Is so loaded with the Xenoestrogens from all the pesticides
And herbicides
Yes, that the bodies are just overloaded with Xenoestrogens
You see the effects of it
You see the effects of it in the males
Where they’re so pocky and effeminate
And if he knows they’re becoming actually a bit more masculine
So it’s intentional
Oh, absolutely intentional
And that blew me away
I mean it was really a revelation
When I, actually I was talking about it
Actually it’s in the preface of the book
Of the Jewish persecution
When we got, I was talking about the food and stuff like that
It’s in that area
But to see how things like this relate
For example, in 19, let’s say, 74
When the United Nations passed their declaration
On the new international economic policy
They said right in it Alan
That every single country regardless
Of their present circumstances will be equalized
And when they were doing, that was in the 70s
And when they were doing the GATT and NAFTA, you know, debate
Senator Hollings from I think North Carolina
Mentioned that in the past 20 years
He said it must have been 92
He said in the past 20 years
The cost of living has risen
And the wages have gone down
And I said, Dan, that totally coincides
With the UN declaration of a new international economic policy
Yes, Roy
Jeez
And yet even that was just a reiteration
Of what the League of Nations had said back in there in 1900
They’ve always just reiterated what they’re already doing
And it’s the way to get to that end
That you actually live through
You see the wars, you see all the conflicts
You see the amalgamations of countries that come out of them
That was all part of this whole long-term agenda
And we’re still going through the latter parts of that
And I think it was just about two or three weeks ago
There was a documentary on public broadcasting
And the world, the United Nations
Go into Africa in different countries, third-world countries
And they’re giving loans out to women only
Because our business is up
And the idea is to bypass the nails
So they become secondary citizens
In an economic structure
And the women, of course, take on these loans
They then love the United Nations very much
And go along with all of their agendas
And this is similar to what you saw to the communist regime
When they pulled out of countries like Hungary and Czechoslovakia
The males, that priority of hiring for females
Way over the males
Most of the guys were unemployed
Even during the Soviet regime
Of course, they never said they had unemployment
It was taboo to be unemployed
They just didn’t include you
And so you have this abundance of women
And Czechoslovakia has to have better education
And job skills
And they’re all leaving the country
And all the guys are left behind
So the UN is continuing the same policy
In other countries
As the Soviets were doing
Alan, what is this deal?
I mean, is this to promulgate to further their plan
For hermaphroditic beings down the road
To emasculate the males
And to emasculinize the women?
And also to bring the result to a stage of infertility
The fastest growing problem you have in the West
Is infertility
Amongst especially the white people
And the fastest growing industry is fertility
Or different fertility clinics
Is the fastest growing industry
In Western countries
So it will come to the stage
Where cloning will seem quite natural
And we must all accept
While we’ve got a clone to save the people
Or the none of us left type of thing
It’s all to bring in the new types of workers
The clone types
And when you look at the old Isaac Asimov books
From the 50s
He was chosen along with Arthur C. Clarke
And another author
To start off the whole New Age movement
They’re all high masons
Now, how long ago did the New Age movement start?
Oh, it started in 1800s in Blavatsky
She was pushed out there primarily
To start it off
To get the women in
And Arthur C. Clarke, did you say?
Yeah, and in the 1950s or so
40s and 50s
Arthur C. Clarke was promoted
And also, so was
Isaac Asimov
Science fiction type writers
Who wrote into their stories
What the future is going to be
Because they belong to these
Futurious groups
And think tanks
So it was a form of conditioning
That it would be all normal
And it wouldn’t seem so absurd
When we actually see it happening in our lifetime
Isaac Asimov talked to
He put out the ones on robots
Like I a robot
Right
So they put into a movie about a year ago
And then he came out with the laws
For the robots
You see
For ordinary humans compared to robots
And at the time when I read it
Which is back in the 1960s
I thought, you know, eventually this will be human
Talking about
Yeah
And sure enough
Separate species
And we’ll see
Well, they’re human too, really, aren’t they?
You know, they weren’t born in a movie
Well, we remember the movie
Was it Robin Williams played in it
Millennium Man
Oh, yeah
Wasn’t that it?
He was a robot
Total robot
Yeah
And he went to the
The world tribunal
Three judges
To be given human status
And his argument was
One of the judges
You have an artificial heart
And so and so has a liver
Or not a liver, a kidney
And he went
I don’t think the third was born with a chakra
Yeah, right
But
Yeah, you can see, you know, them promoting that
While
I would like to back up a minute here
When you mentioned we were talking about new age
I noticed that
You talk about this a lot more today
Than you ever used to
And one thing I would like you to do
Is to define
Because there is a difference
Between people who
Experiences, let’s say, self-evidence truth
Through their own
Exploration and life experiences
And they happen to be similar
To some new age term
It’s more than similar
That’s how the phrase comes out of their mouth
But I’m talking about
I’m not new age, Alan
And I’m not embraced
In any name brand religion
And yet I know that
I mean, if you’re not a name brand religion
And you say something
That’s not the name brand religion
You’re branded new age
And I think it’s important
To define
Or let’s say differentiate
Between what is new age
And what are spiritual truths
Because you know yourself
That in that new age movement
Many of the spiritual truths are told
Well, any spiritual truth
Was always from an individual experience
That’s what I’m talking about
People who’ve experienced
Had their own
Not taught to anybody
But something that came to you
That’s why it’s an unverifiable experience
You cannot verify it to another person
Because you experienced it
There is a difference
Between people who are seeking
Spiritual truth
But there’s always been that
I know, but when you use
New age, it’s almost like
The new age was created to bring in
The new age
Which is the age of Aquarius
Okay, Alan, but listen
Here’s what I’m trying to get to
When you talk about new age
It’s like there’s either brand name religions
Or there’s new age
And there’s nothing else in between
And then, so it leaves
Kind of a gap there
Or it puts everybody
That is embracing a brand name religion
Any religion
It seems to pigeonhole people
Well, if they go to watch something
That already has a name
They’re in our old religion already
Give me an example
Right now of what when you say
If they go into a group
Right?
It’s like the aching car
Whatever it happens to be
There’s thousands of them out there now
But really they’re all the same
They all teach the same stuff
Which is a mixture of Hinduism
Really, primarily a form of Hinduism
Without mentioning Hindu
They mention everything else
About Hindu religion
But they don’t mention Hindu
And it’s to do with channeling
Finding your spirit guide
Your power animal
Whatever it happens to be
Is to bring something into you
Generally through a group experience
Or a master to the pupil type thing
So when people get around
Let’s say there’s a group that meets
That just talks of spiritual things
Not religious things
But spiritual things
But there’s not channeling and stuff going on
That wouldn’t be considered new age
No, you just explain
If you’re explaining your experiences
That’s one thing
If you’re going through formula and rote
Right
Then you’re into an organized religion
Formula and rote
Okay, could you use an example of that?
Well, like learning mantras
Learning something
Learning chant
Formula, that’s what formula is
Okay
And you start off with one thing
Just like all degrees in Freemasonry
You’ve got different things like that
But again, the end product
Is what defines it
Where do they want you to be?
And you’ll find with most of them
The teaching that was put out
And remember, these started as official
High Freemasonic organizations
Back in the 1800s
Blavatsky was given a charter
By the Grand Lodge of England
And the end product
Was to bring in a new age
Right
Aquarius
Where something was going to happen
That would change the society
Literally a new type of human being
A new type of human being
Was to come out of it
I understand that the new age
Has been the movement itself
I read that when I was
I told you when I was reading that book
About Freemasonry and all that
When I got to the end of the book
When they were talking new age
I said, oh my my
They brought the new age thing in
And I remember making a bracket
And a highlight
They made whatever
With the new age
And I realized that
And also I know that
For example, if a person talks
About meditation
Then you’re branded
Oh, you’re a new age
And I know that you’ve said
Well, you don’t have to set a certain way
And all that
I understand that
That, and I also
When I was in the School of Metaphysics
And we meditated
We sat in a quiet place
And we sat, you know
They didn’t have us do yoga positions
Or anything
But very comfortably
And so that you could
Get your mind
Quote off the physical body
And be able to focus within
And sometimes
Those types of things
Can help an individual
If somebody’s trying to meditate
And they’re sitting there
With their legs crossed
And then their legs start
To go to sleep
And it isn’t conducive
For being able to
Not be real conscious
Of the physical body
And to be able to focus
Your attention within
So I think there’s
There’s not a
All in one
Like painting everything
With the same brush
I guess that’s what I’m saying
Yeah, when you find
The common slogans
It’s like Lenin said
Conquer the world
Through the use of slogans
And it didn’t stop
The communistic slogans
To do with cultural slogans
With the idea of slogans
With religious slogans
And what they came out with
Was we were all one
So whenever you hear
That this phrase were all one
That you and remember
Means one in French
Oh gosh
Yeah
And it’s about
Conditioning you subconsciously
This whole idea
Of oneness with the planet
The creation of an
Earth worship-type religion
As Michael Gorbachev talked about
But why would that have to be
Earth worship?
You know, you and I
Were talking one time
This is a long time ago
But I remember
This was on the air
And you were talking about
How our minds are connected
That a person could have a thought
And a person all the way
On the other side of the world
That thought could be in their mind
And in a sense
In that sense
There is a oneness
We have many things in common
That’s the difference
We have many things in common
We have many needs in common
And basic and beyond
And there’s also a language
Including basic telepathy
And things like that
But that’s where it stops, you see
Because otherwise
Well, then how would that thought
Of one individual
Get into the minds of others?
Not everyone receives the idea
Not everyone receives it
I mean, it’s like
If you were to mention
All the millions of people
Watching us are major sports events
I wouldn’t even know
What was on them
Would you?
No
So there’s millions of minds
That would be broadcasting
But they could
But they’re not
A different frame of mind
It’s a different thought, in fact
A simple pleasure doesn’t do it
There’s something to do
With an idea
That’s an ancient description
From even the Greeks
Who were taught by the Egyptians
That you can form a thought
In fact, they called it form
Where a powerful thought
Becomes a form
An energy
And it could almost take on
The feeling of that person
Or the emotion
Or the intent of that person
That created it
It could take it on
At the time of creation
And it would sort of wander
And gravitate to someone
Who was maybe on the edges
Of the same kind of thought
That hadn’t formulated the whole idea
That would gravitate towards them
And suddenly, Eureka
How would that happen?
It hit you
How would that happen
If it wasn’t in the mind?
What do you mean?
No, I’m not saying it’s the truth
I’m saying this is what they stated
That’s what the Greeks used to believe in
Well, you know yourself
You’ve said it yourself
That when we become receptive
That there is that part of us
That is connected
Not in a physical sense
But for example, the phone rings
And you know who it is
That’s right
Or you think about somebody
Or you think of someone
At the same time as someone next to you
Yes
There, that’s what I’m talking about, Alan
Yes, basic natural telepathy
And all children do it all the time
And unfortunately, the school system
And the monetary educational system
We go through
Drums that are out of here
Because they want practical results
They don’t want people
Being able to think beyond
So they just lose it
And a lot of people can’t remember
That they had it
And the other ones
When you talk about it
You say, yeah, I used to do that
But my friends own
So we just burst out together
And start singing the same song
Or singing the same thing
And then laughing, you know
And it’s the noise
And it’s all of the distractions
That’s the material
The material indoctrination we get
To chase after the material
And that’s where you look
In fact, that’s why so many horrors
Are escalating in half
Since the beginning of the 20th
Even people who aren’t, quote
Chasing after the material
When you’ve got a television on
In the house
Yeah
Or a radio going
It is not conducive
Driving in the car
And having the radio on
And some music banging around
It is the distraction
There’s more than a distraction
Jack, yeah
I don’t think people realize
This basic fundamental reality
For thousands and thousands of years
People watch about
A lot of their time in silence
Thinking
They made their own music
When they had yet to get together
With family and even friends
They would tell stories
To entertain each other
All that’s been taken over
All of it
Has been taken over
As they destroyed the family
Yeah
And generations now have been born
Getting up to a radio in the morning
Driving to work with the radio blaring
Can’t go to sleep without the TV on
And what you’re doing all day long
Has been brainwashed with professionals
Because these are corporations
Who put this stuff out
Brainwashed with someone else’s thoughts
That’s not your own thought
And as so much so as you say
I can’t even go to sleep now without it on
They don’t know who they are themselves
They’ve never found out who they are
And you know when you mentioned
How they used to get together and tell stories
I noticed it about the children
When they’re visiting
If we’re sitting eating
And I start talking about something
In the past
They are just entwalled
And they’ll say tell us some more
Momo, tell us another one
And sometimes you can’t think of something
Because you’re telling them something
That happened to pop in your head
But they love it
They love to hear
What did you do when you were young
And what kind of a spiritual person
What about the family
You know, things like this
It really does
I think this is it
Yes it is
But it’s like this
Yeah
And we’re going to be taking about
A few minute break here
All right, we’re back
It occurs to me
I’ve been going to do this
And I have forgotten
And maybe one of our internet listeners
Would send an email to Nicholas
At First Amendment Radio
And let him know
That when we have our break at the half hour
There’s two commercials playing
And I feel really badly
That I just forget it after I’m off the air
But that would be nice
If somebody told him about that
So he could get it fixed
They’re simultaneous
What did I say?
There’s two commercials running
Right, exactly
They’re on top of each other
Exactly
Alan, before we go into
What I wanted to talk about tonight
Or for us to talk about
I thought you might want to let our listeners know
Because you’ve got that new DVD out
And let our listeners know
That what’s going on with it
It’s a very devil, that’s what it means
Because the first batch has sent out
It wasn’t formulated properly
Formatted
It’s a program
So if we send a batch out again
And without everything else
And the truck would break in down
It’s been a hectic week and a half
Just so people know that
When they get it
I haven’t gotten it yet Alan
Yeah, well at least they don’t know now
If the order is the fixed
Right, and you put a note up there
On the website
That’s right
I noted that
But I just thought for our listeners
Maybe that have been over there since
If anybody ordered it
If you haven’t got it yet
I haven’t got mine yet
But if it doesn’t play right
Not to get frantic
It should be on the computer
On the computer
But I wanted it to play on TV as well
Right
And that’s where the problem came in
Okay
So you’re going to…
It was a formatting problem, right?
Yeah
Okay, so you’re going to be resending
Yeah
Okay
And also a strange thing
You probably know that the internet
And disks, for instance
Just like the old VHS tapes
In Europe, in different parts of the world
They play at different speeds and so on
So you can’t use the same format
Abroad, you know that
I didn’t know that
So you told me that the other night
Yeah
And people think they’re free
And again, that’s for all connected stuff
We’re not free at all
Because you have all these regions in the area
Where you can get a VHS tape sent
And you can’t watch it on your recorder
Because they’ve got a different format
Just so that you can’t do it
My
My
What about Canada?
We’re the same as the states
Okay
And the region coding
And Europe plays on a P-A-L type coding
They call it your N-T-S-C here
And then in South Africa
Africa is different, again, I think
Oh, man
And so
And so is South America, not America
So different in every single one of those areas?
Yeah
And the same machines are selling to all the countries
It’s just a little chip in there
So they can’t be anything except their own
Well
What’s been authorized by the government
Well, I knew that was very frustrating to you
And you were concerned about, you know, their frustration
And I just wanted to mention it
So people understand stuff does happen
And that they are going to get one that works
In a DVD player
Yeah
And Alan, for anybody who might not know
If you happen to have slipped in here
Quote accidentally
Alan’s website is cutting through TheMatrix.com
And of course, SweetLiberty.org
Is our website
And they’re both excellent websites to visit folks
I promise you that
This book that I was reading, Alan
God’s Genes and Consciousness
He mentioned the alphabet here
He says the origin of the alphabet remains the greatest
Unsolved mysteries of human history
Is that true?
Well, there’s different theories on it
And this world we live in
Many of the sciences were given really boiled down to a bunch of theories
Which keep changing
And that is true
So in other words, you don’t have an origin of the alphabet
I mean, where did it come from?
Even the very first alphabet, you mean
I guess
Well, we do know that the Chaldeans
Were chosen by invading armies
They would hire guys from the Chaldea
Because their alphabet
Like the Hebrew was numbered as well
So each letter was also numbered
But they didn’t have just one set of meanings
They had quite a few
And so the armies used to hire these guys
To inscribe coding for them
That they could then use runners
And the runners would send it to another regiment
And it was all marked on a stick
And the other Chaldean, another regiment
Could actually read it, so it was coded
So there was this alphabet
Plus the numerical codes
And variations of those codes
For thousands of years
Okay, here’s what I want
For you to hear what he said
So that you could comment on it
He’s talking about the Sanskrit alphabet
And et cetera
And by the way, he talked and hear about
When people lived naturally
It was so cool, it reminded me so much
Of what you’ve talked about in the past
But he says
Just a minute here, let me see
There’s the words created from there
Okay, Jewish, Kabbalist
Is it Kabbalist or Kabbalist?
You did anyway
Okay, and Hindu esoteric
He believes that letters and words
Created from their alphabet
Have several levels of meaning
Vedic scholars believe the original words
In Sanskrit had four levels of meaning
First was the physical spoken words
The second was its inner meaning
The third was its vibrational force
That was transmitted telepathically through Prana
A subtle energy that permeates faith
The final was its transcendental significance
Scientist and mystic Ishtak Bentov
Describes the Sanskrit letters as shape
Quote that impart certain tendencies to consciousness
Making it vibratory
He said the Hebrew letter was considered
To have at least three levels of meaning
The first dealing with the
Interestruction of reality
Of the universe itself
The second involved nature
The physical level of reality
And the third was for individual understanding
And social communication
From the perspective
There’s not too much I’m going to read here
But I want you to hear this
So you could comment on it
Because it really makes sense to me
From the perspective of these esoteric schools
If a written word evokes
The appropriate sound frequencies
Its subtle energy or emotional meaning
Is conveyed along with the mental concept
They believe that if a spoken word
Comprises the root sound
That energetically corresponds to its referent
It will more accurately communicate
With the receiver
Kabbalists and others
Worry, listen to this Alan
That modern language usage
Has been artificially severed
From its energetic root
For instance, English speakers
No longer employ the full range
Of nuanced pronunciations
Thereby, we lose some of the emotive power
Of the words emotive
Would that mean an inner
Like emotional type of a thing?
Yeah
He says now here’s what we’re getting to
He said if they are correct
The result is a confusion of sound
And energy
That creates serious gaps
In transferring knowledge
And maintaining successful communication
Even among people who speak the same language
With the arbitrary introduction
Of our artificial new words
We may add to the already socially destructive
Tower of Babel phenomenon
Caused by many different tongues
And then I’m going to jump down
To the last paragraph here
He said if the above views
Have any validity
The inventors of the alphabet
Did not barely create an arbitrary set of symbols
To go with just any spoken word
They meant it to be used to create written
And thus pronounced words
That accurately communicated
And purposefully affected ordinary reality
To fulfill this purpose
It stands to reason that the successful use of words
And sentences
Requires that the alphabet and languages
Have an inherent order
Perhaps this is why
Nouns have verbs that connect them to a predicate
In a sentence
To infuse the situation with the subtle energy
Of the speaker’s intention
As physicists rediscover
The creative power of focused intent
Multidisciplinary linguists can help sharpen
Our understanding of the power of the word
Perhaps we can learn to use only words
Whose frequencies resonate
With the energies of the desired effect
For instance
We cannot talk peace into existence
Using the words of war
And neither can we elicit love from another
Using the terms of threat
Basically what I’m hearing him saying
I think is that as the words change
And as words have been dropped out
Et cetera et cetera
That so much of the inner vibration
Or energy of the original word is lost
I don’t go along with the magical stuff
What magical stuff are we talking about?
Define
What I do go along with is
The incredible loss of words
Of description
That’s what we’ve been losing
George Orwell
Put it beautifully
In his 1984 book
Where he’s a government employee
And he meets another one
Who’s working in the dictionary department
And he says, look at this one
And he says
This was last year’s dictionary
It’s about an inch thick
It says next year’s will be this thick
Which is about half an inch
And he says, I see
When there’s no more words
There can be no more thought crimes
Oh, no more thought crimes
Because you can’t think
Right
You can’t express an emotion
But when you said you don’t go along with the magic
What are we talking about here?
Well, I know a lot of it
Again, it’s pushed in the new age
The vibrational qualities of sounds
And that’s all part of the cabala
And you don’t think there’s anything to that, Alan?
Not nonsense
No, you can use sounds
And amplify them
Or alter the frequencies of them
And that’s a different thing through electronics
The scientists certainly use that with the harp project
Because they go from 0 to about 100 kilohertz
And that’s in the brain frequencies
So those things can fit
But audibly you can’t hear them
But you don’t think that words
Certain words have some type of a
Okay, here’s something I’m thinking about
Just as an example
The word stupid
Versus the word harmony
That’s positive, negative
It’s a negative emotion as opposed to positive
But that does set up some type of a feeling
Well, yeah, it’s a feeling of uselessness
And you become the word
Because you know what it means
It means you’re dull
What about the word kids for children?
There was a reason they brought that in, Alan
Yeah, I know
And of course, it’s on everything
Now everybody says it
And in the media
I’ve never ever heard the media saying children
In regular media, even on the news
So there’s something to that for them
Oh, yeah, because a kid is an animal
And instead of a dehumanizing
Stalin talks about it, sort of letting
The dehumanization break up the family
With all these different techniques
Plus the use of non-human words
So you put these appellations on people
And it separates the humanity in them
Into another category
And they get us using…
Well, they don’t get us using them
We use them
I mean, I used it because we were called kids growing up
And that, you know, suddenly somebody said once
A kid is a baby goat
And that’s when it really struck me
What struck me further
So not only are we calling our children baby goats
It’s a terrific meaning behind this
Well, what about the bathroomette, the goat of Mendee?
A kid is also a precursor
As a goat of the domesticated sheep
So a child, being more natural
And not totally conditioned
Is more natural, therefore, to call them the kids
Whereas the people, once they’re indoctrinated
They lose that creative individualism
And they become a sheep
Well, a baby sheep is called a lamb
I know, but they come from that family, you see
The initial…
The sheep really came from
In reading certain stocks of different animals
Or types of animals
Really?
That goat type to create the sheep
The domesticated type
And maybe they also had the thought
That we’d be calling our children kids
Referring to a baby goat
And then when you see the bathroomette
The goat of Mendee
Which is the universal symbol of Satan
When I saw that, I thought, my god
We’re not only calling them baby goats
In a sense, we’re calling them spawn of Satan
For them, little devils
And then a friend, we were talking about this
And she said, not only that
But the kids were sacrificed
In the testament, they were lambs and kids
That were sacrificed to Malik, to Jehovah?
Yeah
That’s the key to it
If you can dehumanize people
Through altering the human
The human associations with the word
Then you put them into separate categories
Things and objects
And psychologically it severs that connection
Of humanity
And you treat them differently
Let me ask you a question
Would you call me New Age?
You know me
You know me
I don’t think you go around doing your
Chanting or channeling
Yes, but sometimes the way you describe New Age
It’s almost like you’re describing me
Not like you’re doing it
I’m not saying you’re picking me out
Talking about me, don’t get me wrong
And I know I’m referring back to our original
Thing here when we were talking about New Age
But it just occurred to me that
You know, maybe you think of me
As being a quote New Age-er
If you were a New Age-er
You would be looking forward to the big change
In humanity
Now listen, here’s something interesting here
Because Arthur C. Clarke
Who did 2001 The Space Odyssey
He wrote that in 1960
It’s far that the high ones who run this planet here
And the movie had nothing to do with space
Even those two places in space
Of hematonic ritual
Pied ritual
And the world was to start changing in 2001
That’s what it meant
9-11 came along in 2001
Yes, it did
His second movie was 2010
That’s great to be complete
There’s a movie 2010 out there?
That’s right
Would I understand it if I watched it, Alan?
I think you would probably get it after
What we’ve talked about so many times
You probably would
I hope so, because I sure didn’t get 2001
No, but it’s a hematonic ritual
Put through a story form in space
And anyway, in 2010
This guy, who basically becomes a god
From 2001 as a continuation
Comes back to Earth
And a new sun is born in the sky
As above so below, so once born on the Earth
Being a new man is born
And his expression all through the movie
When he comes to visit the people in there
Something wonderful is going to happen
Something wonderful
Whenever you hear that expression
That’s the key to it
It’s an hematonic expression
For the completion of the great work
Something wonderful is going to happen
And I’ve heard one of the big talk show hosts
Recently, the two weeks ago
He used that on the other air
When he was asked about 2010
Who was it? Will you say who it was?
I was on his show at night
Okay
And I told him, what do you think it means?
There’s going to be people like Maya
Maya is just, I am backwards by the way
For hematonic coding
They weren’t called that back then
What were they called back then?
There was a whole…
There’s a map of history left in there
With different names
But it’s just a rehash of something
To confuse the public
I mean, they weren’t actually Maya
When he was asked what he thought was going to happen
I don’t think it’s going to be terrible
I think something wonderful is going to happen
And I thought, boy, oh boy
Did he know what he was saying
Did he know what he was saying?
So you’re saying that Mayan Indians
Weren’t really Mayan Indians?
No, you can read the histories
Of Latin America
There were so many tribes
And all the rest of it
The pronunciations of all the words
Of changes then to
Over and over and over
And the Mayan calendar?
Well, they’re not even sure it’s a calendar
Except for the big authorized books
That are meant to fascinate people
And use predictions
That can read everything into it
You’re also getting a handful of pebbles
And getting your own description
Because it’s the same way of doing it
So the Mayan calendar
What we’re told that is a Mayan calendar
Doesn’t necessarily quote
And that 2012, is that all?
That’s all hocus pocus?
All that’s going to happen in these years
Is the completion of an old agenda
That’s more to do with the West than anywhere else
Well, let’s say that’s their intention
Let’s not seek it in like it’s coming
And what that many wagers
That’s what we tell them
Stop saying
We look forward to this thing
Because you don’t know what you’re talking about
You don’t know what you’re asking in here
Say it again
And it’s interesting too
If you look at Christianity
It’s very similar
Because you have these vague contradictions
And then you’ve got a testament
To do with spirit and body
Where Jesus is asked about divorce
And he says
Oh, he says definitely not there
And basically in heaven
There’s no male nor female
And then you get the resurrection thing
Where they’re taught to be risen bodily
But given new bodies though
Given new physical bodies
No matter how old you are
You mean in the physical, resurrected in the physical?
Well, it’s hinted at
It’s hinted at that there’ll be both
Definitely a new physical body
Regardless of your age
So it’s all meant to make people look forward
To this thing happening
I see Alan
That’s the interesting part
And we see where science is taking us
Oh, we’re the new gods
We’re going to give you brand new bodies
And brand new types of humans
And see how well they are
But the only thing is we won’t be sentient
We won’t be individuals
Like they said at the Loyola meeting
They said they’ll resemble the beehive
And it’ll be impossible to even think of yourself
As a separate distinction
Oh my
Yeah, so I mean that’s where they’re all heading
And the new age movement
I’m talking about the big ones
That’s what it was brought out to do
To make them look forward to this
And the Bible did too
Because people, even though
The Bible talks about all the terrible things
That are going to happen
They’re like, oh this is so exciting
Because Jesus is coming back
And it’s the start of his reign
For a thousand years here
So the new age and the Christian
And the Hebrew
I mean, we’ll not Hebrew, what do we call it?
We’ll call it Talmudism
But it all has their adherents
Looking forward
And they’re each looking forward
To something different
That’s right
Isn’t that a shame?
It’s the same because
Behind all of these new age movements
To talk about the ages of man
And I mean the five stages
The five previous main stages
With the new type of creature
Born at the end of each circle
That’s really the root problem
And we’re in the fifth race?
Yeah
What were the first four according to that?
That’s again a whole series of times
Oh hell
And anyway, they called it the fifth Aryan race
And that’s what Adolf Hitler was on about
The fifth Aryan race
It’s a broad spectrum meaning
Although the original Aryans
Supposedly were the Hindus, the Brahmins
Were they white?
They claimed they were
So when you went to India
It wasn’t, it isn’t Hinduism
That you were not introduced to
But wherever you went
It wasn’t Hinduism that they adhered to
Not everybody
There’s all different branches
And different sects and religions
And beliefs
Many of them have things in common
Certainly because Hinduism
Probably affected more religions
Or created some
I mean even the Buddha idea
Came out of India as well
And even though it had nothing to do
It was a breakaway
It didn’t want anything to do with Hinduism
The later followers
Somebody tied Hinduism back onto it
So it truly has
And you find a lot of the stories
In the Old Testament as well
What were taken from the old Sanskrit literature
That were stolen really
And there would be truth in there somewhere
Well it doesn’t mean that you get a fable
That hasn’t ever been truth
Because it was an older fable
We don’t know
Generally these things are allegories
For a truth
That’s the secret of all of this
There’s generally an allegory called truth
Hidden within
So that the profane will jump on the exoteric
You see that’s how things are written
And it’s still the same today
It’s never changed today
Those who want to be fascinated
Jump on the exoteric truth
And go off in their drug induced
You know, searches
Or they’ll pay everything that they have
To get a high experience
Hoping to become a god in this world
Really, or a mortal in this world
Because all religions revolve
Around the fear of death
And everyone
That’s how they have their power
And maintain their power
And so they always promise you immortality
Immortality here and physical?
You know, that’s the odd thing
So many of the new ragers really want that
And that’s what they’re teaching?
Oh yeah
That one day, one day a theory
Oh yeah, they have
They have even the Breathe-Ariens
The what?
This fallacy came out of India
Or at least they claimed
That a bunch of groups came out back in the 60s or 70s
That some people could live another
So perfect they didn’t have to eat
They could just breathe there
Oh, okay
Becoming Breathe-Ariens
Yeah, you know what?
I’ve been thinking of talking to Nicholas
I don’t know what’s on after Sweet Liberty
But sometimes we get into a conversation
And to have to wait for another week
Oh yeah
To continue it is just
It’s such an interruption
And I was thinking of talking to Nicholas
To see if possibly
We would be able to do two hours on a Wednesday night
Oh yeah
Yeah
So
Yeah, you sort of get rolling in there
I know it
And then we have to wait a whole week to pick it up
Well, we’ll be back to see you next Wednesday night
And you might want to go over to Alan’s red site
I haven’t got to be busy yet
But he says it’s different than anything he’s done
And I am very impatient and can’t wait to get it
So you might want to order this
And see what it’s all about
Alan, thanks for being here tonight again
And good night
Hope to see you next Wednesday
Well, I say this to the militias and all others who believe
That the greatest threat to freedom comes from the government
If you appropriate our sacred symbols
For paranoid purposes
And compare yourselves to colonial militias
Who fought for the democracy you now rail against
You are wrong
How dare you call yourselves patriots and heroes
If you say the government is in a conspiracy
To take your freedom away
You are just…
You’re listening to Jackie Petru and Sweet Liberty.
And now, here’s your host, Jackie Petru.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.
Today is Wednesday, and it is the 16th of August in the year 2006.
And I hope you’re having a nice week.
I want to start here with our spiritual message. I think I did this one last week.
And it is a card from the quote, the box that I have of quotes from A Course in Miracles.
It says, Your Holiness, reverses all the laws of the world. It is beyond every restriction of time, space, distance, and
limits of any kind.
Your Holiness, reverses all the laws of the world. It is beyond every restriction of time, space, distance, and limits of
any kind.
Alan, what is with us again this evening? And Alan, it’s nice to have you back.
Yeah, it’s a pleasure to be back.
Yeah. You’ve been a busy guy.
Yeah, very busy.
Uh-huh.
I’m just getting the wood in now, as I say, for this winter.
And going at it, cutting, cutting, cutting.
How many cords do you need?
Oh, I don’t count cords, but it’s the good piles.
Oh, piles.
Yeah, just a couple of little hills will do me.
Okay.
And again, it depends on how hard the winter is.
Yeah, and how long it lasts, and how your cutting weather is.
That’s right.
Yeah. Well, you got it in last year, didn’t you, Alan?
Well, in last year, and it’s also the… Well, it’s a lot of bears around now, so they’re…
If you saw dodge the bears, find you they dodge you, too.
Do they?
Yeah, if they see you coming, they’ll get out of your way.
Yeah.
So, you haven’t run into any that have shown any signs of aggressiveness?
Or, like, ladies?
Sometimes you’ll get occasional one like today, with the thicker head up in the long grass.
And he had to, from year to year, he was about a foot and a half.
Wow.
And big shoulders on him.
And what do you do? Do you just kind of…
How do you just dance, Bill?
Okay.
Hopefully, he’ll amber off.
And if he doesn’t, do you keep standing there?
Yeah, you don’t want to run.
I wouldn’t think so.
Yeah, you don’t run.
And generally, the bears generally won’t get out your way.
That’s only danger if there’s cubs around.
That’s when the danger time ends.
That would be springtime, wouldn’t it?
Yeah, but some cubs will hang around their mums for a year or more.
Okay.
Well, you and I wouldn’t call them cubs at that size, but they’re…
But it’s their mother’s baby.
That’s right.
Uh-huh.
And Mummy there doesn’t want any excuses.
Uh-huh.
And you don’t try and pat them like the television’s trained people to do, you know.
The city folk think they’re cute and cuddly because they’ve watched all the nature programs.
You leave them to their world and they’ll leave you to yours.
Uh-huh.
And you get on just fine.
So, they’re eating the blueberries right now?
Yeah.
They’re devouring them.
You wouldn’t believe how many berries these guys can eat.
Did you get some?
No, I’ve got some, yeah.
I’ve got some berries.
It was a good year for that because they gave us a lot of rain this year.
Yep.
Nice, big, fat, sweet berries, aren’t they?
Oh, there’s dex of them.
Yeah.
Blueberries and the raspberries were good too.
Oh.
And there was even some of the wild strawberries coming out big time too because of last year.
So, now it’s the last of the blueberry season.
Yeah.
So, they passed my house to get to the train tracks because it grows great along the train
tracks for some reason.
The berries too.
Yeah, so these blueberries are good ones.
It must be.
I think blueberries like an acidic soil.
You’ve either got a hankering for traveling.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
But at least Germany are produced along the real road track.
That’s cool.
Yeah.
So, when I go out at night, I just hit the flashlight and make sure they make a noise
and they know you’re coming and they get your way.
They’re not, they’re not nocturnal animals, aren’t they, Alan?
Oh, they can wander at night.
Yeah, they’ll come in at night too.
Generally, they won’t hang around the house unless they smell a garbage or something from
the city’s barbecuing.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, they’ll come.
At least they smell a barbecue.
They’ll come for miles.
They’re scented with eight times better than a dog.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
They don’t seem too great though.
I didn’t know that.
They’re scented that much more sensitive.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That’s why they get attracted to garbage sites and garbage outside homes or whatever.
Mm-hmm.
Well, what’s on the agenda tonight?
What’s on your mind besides bears and cutting wood?
Besides bears and cutting wood, well, I’d always like to talk to the ethnic groups that
themselves in trouble at the wrong time, or I should say the right time according to the
agenda, and speak to the young people, especially the young males, because they’re always, you
know, males are young and stupid, but we’re very stupid when we’re young.
And they’ve got to realize that there are agencies setting them up that have been provocateur
into situations they probably would never get into, because they’re given leaders by
intelligence agencies, generally off their own race and creed and all the rest of it.
And they’re following them and they’re getting themselves in trouble in Britain and across
the world.
And they’ve even done programs on the BBC where the internet is being used by the intelligence
agencies to get these young guys into it, so they’ll get themselves in trouble.
The intelligence agencies got to find somebody creating terror, or all the types, there’s
just a lot of crying wolf.
So they create this situation, then they point to these young guys and say, look, we’re told
you so, these terrorists are everywhere.
And meanwhile, there’d be no terror at all if they’d left them alone.
There’d be some young guys just spouting off, you know.
So they’re being set up, and I hope they really understand that.
This is an ancient technique that’s been used over and over.
They give you the leaders, you’ll follow them, you’ll end up in entrapment, and then they’ll
claim that you’re terrorists.
Don’t follow the big boys, even though they seem to be respected within your own race
and creed and religion.
When you’re saying the big boys, you’re saying…
The good speakers, the ones that are from your own people, you might say, that appear
to be the intellectuals, have all the answers, they know what’s going on to create the hype
to get you to follow, and the next thing you know, you’re in trouble.
Are you talking about talking them into getting involved in policing and this type of thing
out?
Oh, no, I’m talking about the actual terrorist act.
Oh, these things are found, for instance, in London and even in Canada.
Really, we probably have come to nothing if the intelligence agencies hadn’t encouraged
Muslim guys to start chatting on the internet about doing something about what’s happening.
Because then the same agencies supplied these young guys with the leaders, you know, and
then supplied them with all the equipment to get themselves in trouble, then they get
arrested for it.
They’re being set up another way.
And this is a typical provocateur ship that goes on all the time.
And the intelligence agencies have recruited guys who are Sikhs, Hindu, Muslim.
Every faction, you can imagine, it was the intelligence agencies, basically, that set
up all the white racist groups in the U.S.
And I think one of our earlier programs, we talked about that when the BBC years ago,
back in the 70s, there was a documentary on one of the southern U.S. states.
And it’s a whole other program about supposed white racist groups.
And it could be one thing.
When you say white racist, are you calling, like, the white separatists or white, what
do they call it, identity?
They call them neo-Nazis.
Okay.
And they even showed you the inside of this hall where they met.
And there’s maybe 150 of them there.
Then about eight different U.S. agencies waited at the same time.
And by the end of the night, everybody got away because everybody in it was one of their
boys, except for three people who just walked in.
Oh, my gosh.
The whole group.
It’s incredible.
There’s so many overlapping agencies.
It’s entrapment.
It’s entrapment, though, Alan.
Pardon?
It is entrapment.
Oh, it’s entrapment.
But there’d be none of these groups to begin with if the fed hadn’t created them.
It was so starting to see all these guys gradually filtering away into the night after showing
their ID, except for three guys that walked in off the street.
Everybody else was an agent from one department or another.
So this is the oldest dodge in the book since it gave us the leaders to follow.
And the innocent, the ones, the naive, end up kind.
You know, that happened to the son of a friend of mine.
And I think it was basically what Wokey and his wife up, because when he told me about
it, he said everything that I had ever talked to them about they could see now was the truth.
And he said they’ll hear something on the news and look at each other and suddenly realize
the lies.
But his son and a friend of his, they were out of work looking for work.
And an agent, a narc, became friendly with them.
And he started encouraging them to set up a meth lab.
And both of them kept saying, uh-uh, they wanted nothing to do with it.
He said, well, I can get you the stuff.
And as it turned out, my friends, his body was the one that set up the meth lab in his apartment.
But he didn’t really set it up.
It was the narc.
The narc did everything.
And then once they got it set up, they got arrested.
And they both went to prison.
Eric went to prison, I’m thinking it was maybe two or three years as an accessory.
These were young college age boys.
Yeah.
And the whole saying, not either one of them would have ever had a thought in their mind to do that, Alan.
That’s right.
And that’s pretty typical.
That’s a perfect example, isn’t it?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And Tratman’s the oldest trick in the book.
He creates a situation, bring in the naive, and set them up in an endpoint loop, see?
And that’s how it’s done.
And they’re finding this now with scouring the internet.
All these agencies looking for young guys who are just beeping off.
And then supplying them with leaders that come into their sights without chatting to Tratman.
Yeah.
Seemed to be one of their own, you see?
Uh-huh.
And they want to then apply them with the materials to get any trouble.
And then they’ll arrest them for it.
And see, there’s terrorism everywhere.
Yeah.
And all this farce that had gone on at the airport with the fluid bomb, you know, her baby’s milk,
everything was getting put, plenty of hampers, mouthwash, everything.
It’s such an incredible farce.
And the public stand up with it.
They put up with the humiliation, this training technique of being humiliated.
And they’re being trained to be humiliated.
And that’s the exact response they want from the public during any tyranny today or thousands of years ago.
It’s always the same technique this shows.
And the more humiliation you take, the more beaten down you are,
and you won’t believe that one day you’ll be made to walk stark naked past people and paraded as they laugh at you.
And the public will fight a sheet over you or something to continue your flight if you’re so stupid as to keep going.
But that will come, because these are status and charge of it.
Yes, they are, I’m saying.
Yeah.
One time, you said…
What you were saying about your granddaughter going back home.
Yeah, with their shoes.
Would you tell them what happened?
Well, everybody had their shoes off.
I took them to the gate.
At the airport?
Yeah, at the airport, right.
And there was a huge snake-long line to get through security years,
but had to be there two hours early for the flight.
But I saw people walking around in their stocking feet.
And when we guys…
I mentioned it and they said, oh yeah, and I was okay because I had a pair of thong sandals on.
The girls were wearing flip-flops.
Brandon had to take his shoes off.
But men in business suits, it didn’t matter.
They take the shoes off, put them in the basket, and then the basket gets run through the line.
And as a matter of fact, on that trip, they pulled Ashi’s purse out and took it over to the side.
I was already true.
I had to get a security pad.
And Ashi was so old?
Seventeen.
Teenager and, you know, her young sister and brother were with them.
I wasn’t even standing there with them because I went through a few people I had because I had a security pad.
So I got on the other side of the security thing there and was watching.
And the next thing, you know, he had her purse and he took it over to the side by a wall.
And I walked over there and I was watching him.
I asked him, is there something wrong?
And he said, well, it just looked different.
He went through her purse.
And I mean, he took every, and it was, you know, young girl’s purse as Alan.
He opened up her makeup bag.
He opened up the little compact things.
He opened up lipstick tubes.
He went to that purse with the fine tooth comb.
And I guess it took a good close to maybe eight, ten minutes or so.
And then he got done and he stuffed everything back in.
I have a nice flight.
Yeah.
And I did get an email about this afterwards.
I was shocked.
The thing is, there wasn’t one person complaining.
They just took it in their stride.
And you’ll find less with the young because they’ve been trained in advance in their school searches.
Yeah.
Coming in and out of school, you think it’s normal.
That’s how this all ties together.
How they worked so far ahead for what to come.
Well, Alan.
And they always trained the youth.
Well, it wasn’t just youth.
They were the only really young people there at the time we were there.
Yeah.
These were adults.
And it doesn’t matter what their age was.
It doesn’t matter whether they were dressed in a suit or a pair of jeans or a skirt, a dress.
Yeah.
Their shoes came off and they went into the basket and went through the thing.
Yeah.
So it isn’t just the youth.
In fact, my children are very aware, you know, what’s going on.
But you stop and think about it.
I thought, you know, the pathetic thing is there’s not one person I heard complaining.
But Alan, if you did complain, they’d probably take you in a room and give you a cavity search.
Oh, I’m sure.
I mean, they would.
Yeah.
It totally would subdue a person because, you know, a lot of us have heard nightmare stories.
I remember reading one about a year or so ago.
A young 15-year-old girl who had gone to a special Olympics and she had participated.
She had a wooden leg and they made her sit down right there in front of everybody and take her wooden leg off, Alan.
Yeah.
Now, do you know what that must do to a young 15-year-old girl to go through it?
That’s meant to do that.
Yes.
The more you’re humiliated and then you accept it and if that rage is up inside you because
you feel helpless, it puts you to another level of helplessness.
And this is a standard technique.
You see, Britain, they were the first country to use a concentration camp.
And they used them in the Boer War with the Dutch settlers in Africa.
Oh, nice.
And they found that they used the same techniques that eventually Hitler was accused of using.
They eventually stopped you to break the will, to break the people by humiliation and making
them do a humiliating thing, walking naked, all this kind of thing.
Cavities, churches, blah, blah, blah.
It’s all old stuff and it’s a sign of breaking down the human spirit.
Yeah.
When were the Boer Wars?
Oh, that was really started in the 1900s because…
In the what?
I’m sorry.
The people of Rosary were the guy who initiated the Boer Wars.
On behalf of Britain, he wasn’t acting independently.
And that went on into the early 1900s.
And then it ended before the World War I.
You know, we were talking one night on the air about what’s happening over in South Africa with the white.
And I made a statement and I said, I find it difficult to feel compassion for them because it isn’t their country anyway.
I mean, they went over there and they took, you know, the blacks, the Africans for slaves.
And I got an email from the guy and he said, I think he might have said shame on me or whatever.
But and then he said, is it any worse what they did over there than what Americans did to the natives here?
Yeah.
The Indians, the American Indians.
And then he named a few.
And I said, I agreed totally.
Just the whole thing is outrageous.
I watched a movie at the urging of a friend, the movie on Geronimo.
And I don’t know how close to true it was.
But there’s, it sounded, it looked to me like they were being pretty truthful with it.
It was the promises that were made to these people.
You know, come on over here and give yourself up and we’ll let you go over.
And then once they got on the reservations, then all the rules and regulations were laid down.
And they weren’t allowed to leave without special permission.
And according to this movie, Geronimo, because he had gone on the war path, evidently, he wasn’t going to give up.
But of course, their ranks were getting smaller and smaller because as they got killed off, there weren’t any children
coming up.
And finally he gave himself up.
And the man that talked him into it, he said he would have to go to Florida for two years, but he could take his family.
And they said that he spent 20 years the rest of his life in prison, 20 years in a Florida prison.
So the inhumanity to man, yeah, it is.
And basically it was the whites.
It was the whites that went over to Africa and took the land and called the fairs.
They were the whites that came here from Europe and said we’ve got to get rid of these Indians and so kill them all off.
There’s more than just the whites.
What it is is an entire…
It’s what’s behind it, Alan.
It’s a system.
Yeah.
It’s a system based on a funny thing, a strange thing, unnatural thing called money, which were taught rules are life.
And everyone runs after it and then you’re willing to do someone else and to get more of it.
And that’s the whole key to this money and profit business.
Well, and then they get these military leaders that are…
What are they?
What was that ATF agent that was videotaped during the Waco Holocaust?
I’m a lean, mean killing machine.
Oh, yeah.
Pwned to kill, he said.
And when you put people like that in charge that have no compassion, they slaughter for the fun of killing.
What is a psychopath?
Did they do recruits on their tests to find the psychopath in the military and in the special forces?
Psychological tests, which are pretty well infallible so they know what they’re looking for.
And every henchman in history has always recruited a psychopath to do his dirty work.
I know and I suppose the way I speak, I sound like I’m not white myself, which is, of course, I am from French, Irish,
Scotch, Dutch, whatever.
A bunch of them, but I hear people saying, well, you know, the white race is superior because of their IQ and because
they’re hard workers.
A lot of reasons, but when people can be made or cajoled or blackmailed or whatever, bribed into slaughtering other
people, Alan, I see nothing superior about that.
No, there’s a defect you see running through human nature.
There’s no doubt there is a defect here.
And one time these defective ones were killed off by tribes.
They killed them off.
Yes, they did, didn’t they?
Yes, they did.
And that was the beauty of a no-money type system and living in tribes.
She didn’t have an army to come down on you and make you all do the same thing.
But the people themselves saw a deviant in their midst, an egotism, very quickly.
Money is the first deviant creation, and from money came a whole structure of greed.
And based on fear too, they always keep the bulk of the populace and fear of poverty through this money system.
And when you have a fear of poverty, you get an exaggerated need for more and more money to secure the more you
have.
And this is an old trick.
So deviancy can create another deviancy of the opposite extreme for a fear of poverty that will create tremendous greed
which will kill others in order to get wealth.
In other words, you’re saying it isn’t always the greed just to have more and more, but behind that is the fear of being
impoverished.
Absolutely.
That’s where it runs on.
It counts on that site.
Your basic needs are food, shelter, clothing, water, warmth, that kind of stuff.
And this structure, this scientific structure, which was known in ancient times, knew all of this stuff
and developed over thousands of years into very fine art.
And that’s why economy is always like a big roulette wheel to the majority of the people.
The animals earn the market.
That’s why it’s called the market.
The stock market.
Stock market used to mean your animals.
Oh, stock, the stock age.
And so they all play on this big roulette wheel, and it’s rigged up, and they don’t know it.
And it’s to tell you, oh gee, your pensions, everything’s riding on this big hit-or-miss deal, so everyone’s sitting biting
their nails all the time.
You’re not allowed to relax.
It keeps you on edge, and that’s meant to do so.
It’s a giant con game.
Always was a giant con game.
But it’s based on the fear of poverty, with a supposing exaggerated need, a psychotic need, to overcome that by a
community massive wealth, as anybody can expect.
It’s unnatural.
You’ve said before, more than once, the ones behind death.
You’ve said, I don’t think they’re human.
But technically they’re not, because if you don’t have that part of the brain, I don’t think they have it.
I think it’s been bred out of them.
Just as you can breed traits into a person or an animal, you can also breed certain traits out of them.
And since they were selected for certain abilities, and coldness, and ruthlessness, these leaders are basically psychopaths
themselves.
But they don’t have that part of the brain left that gives compassion and empathy.
They are the destroyers.
And their system will destroy everything it touches.
So are you saying then, the possibility is that each and every one of us have some of those genes, and then it’s choices
we make, whether we succumb, or whether we don’t?
Yeah, if we have a full and packed brain and mind, then we do have choices, absolutely.
Whereas they themselves, being deviant, and bred with deviants forever and ever, they themselves don’t have.
They’re more like creatures of instincts, more like insects, you might say, than humans.
They have no, they don’t sit and ponder over some skin that’s going to kill thousands or millions of people.
They don’t worry about, they can sleep well at night when you start wars and bomb people from the air, and slaughter
whole nations.
They just sleep very well. They don’t need tranquilizers.
So that, yeah, technically they’re not human.
Think they’re DNA and sun tamper twists?
A long time ago, maybe?
Primarily, Plato said it all in the Republic, he said we can literally breed and trade.
If you want a domestic dog, you can breed, trade some.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In other words, if you have a dog that has aggressive tendencies, you don’t breed it with another dog that has aggressive
tendencies.
And I can very well relate to that one. We had great genes.
And to find out the background of the blue we had, that was showing aggressive tendencies, and it was in a fire, and it
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Folks, I want to remind you again at the beginning of the break.
The website, WFAR’s website, has been down a few times.
And what Nicholas did is remind you that there’s another way to get in.
And it would be good if you’re not going to remember it, write it down.
If you go to WFAR to hear the broadcast and you can’t do it, try going to firstamendmentradio.net.
Then I understand that sort of a backdoor into it because I know that it has happened on a few occasions.
Hasn’t it, Alan?
Yes, it has.
They were down the same night.
Our website was out three weeks ago when I couldn’t get on the air because my long distance was out
and it was back after the broadcast was over.
Our website was down and so was First Amendment Radio down.
And you did the broadcast that night and I don’t know if I’ve announced this,
but folks, if you weren’t able to get in, I heard from a couple of people that had a link and were able to get in.
But Alan has that broadcast on his website at .com.
I liked your new little local thing up at the top of the site, Alan.
Oh, yeah.
That’s pretty cool.
And I’m seeing the burst off on your DVD.
Yeah.
And Alan’s giving a karate chop to the capstone of the Great Pyramid.
That’s good.
One in the eye.
Right in the eye.
That’s cool.
I should tell the people that the DVD is out now.
Well, you should go right ahead and do that.
Yeah.
The details are up on the website.
It’s worth getting.
It’s different than anything else out there.
And I go into some of the history, some of the occult, some of the esoteric meaning.
I mixed it with some music, a lot of visualization there to keep you occupied, a bit of humor at the same time.
And yeah, you’ll really enjoy it.
I’ve learned a lot too.
Now, this one…
You’ve gotten a lot of them in there that are downloadable free.
But this is one that they will purchase.
That’s right.
Okay.
What is the cost on that, Alan?
I think it’s up for 35, I think.
Okay.
Yeah.
And that’s a two hour?
That’s two hours.
And it truly is just packed.
It’ll keep you going.
You won’t fall asleep with this one.
Oh, cool.
That sounds neat.
You spent a long time putting that together, didn’t you?
Yeah, yeah.
I had to be just right.
So, as best as I could do, and Jason could do with what we had, the program.
And yeah, it should be really, really pretty good.
Well, as soon as I get a copy.
Yeah, well, it should arrive this week.
Oh, goodie.
Did you mail me one?
Yeah.
Oh, thank you.
It all depends.
This is the thing with the mail, because you know all this holla-balloo that…
I mean, the U.S. is going overboard checking everything.
And all these characters that spend their days looking through parcels and packages and
letters are given quotas to fill out.
And so some get through without a problem.
It just depends on your luck.
Other ones are held up in a backlog until they look at everything or watch the videos,
I suppose.
That’s like the…
Oh, wouldn’t that be nice?
Oh, I’m sure.
Your hope that that’s happening, Alan.
Yeah.
So yeah, I can either get there within a week or it can take two, sometimes three weeks
some have taken.
So it’s all part of luck right now.
And even the air mail is going the same speed.
And that’s what the main headquarters for Canada Post told me, that whereas air mail
overland really doesn’t make any difference right now.
They’re just in two to three weeks.
So if people are going to mail you and they’re in a hurry, they may as well…
Well, I won’t get the mail coming from the U.S. fast.
Oh, okay.
Six days, seven days.
But it’s getting stuff back into the U.S.
On the U.S. side, you see U.S. customs that are doing all this.
So, you know…
Well, I also discovered, and I don’t know when this started.
Because I know when Chuck was here, you know, we went over to Canada with the children and
over to the falls and had no trouble getting in and out.
And now, I guess you can get into Canada without a birth certificate.
Of course, you have to show ID.
But I’m told that you have to have a birth certificate to get back into the U.S. from Canada.
And Derek had told me that when he and his family were going to the falls.
And I said, oh, Derek, Darren, I don’t…
Did I say, Derek?
Darren, our webmaster.
I said, I don’t think so.
He said, yes, because I’ve read it.
And my sister’s coming.
And they’ll be coming through Canada because it’s closer.
And that’s what she found out.
She had to have a…
She had to have a birth certificate to get back into the States.
You know, to certify that you were born.
Yeah.
And people think they’re free.
And these are certificates to certify that you were born by disorder.
I thought your mom would have known.
Yeah.
But that’s how farcical all of this is, isn’t it?
Well, it’s farcical.
And it’s insane.
You mentioned the situation over there in London.
And I don’t know.
I just believe that there are many, many people, maybe not enough yet.
But I think that the numbers are growing that hear that and say that’s the farce.
That’s the setup.
It’s the hope.
That’s right.
And over here in the States, they’re saying, oh, well, we have to take this because it could be explosive.
And they’ve got a big trash can.
And they’re opening up water bottles and baby bottles.
And you name it.
And they’re pouring it all in together.
Like they’re really afraid.
And I did read a letter that somebody wrote to the security, whatever it was, agency that’s in charge of this.
And they wanted to know what gives.
You’re taking it away.
They’re taking it away from us and putting it in their own bags.
Yeah.
And that shampoo and anything, evidently, that’s even slightly liquid.
Liquid makeup.
Right.
You were just not safe with all this stuff, you see.
Right.
And you know, I don’t ever watched 1984, the British version, with Richard Burton.
Were there, was there more than one version?
There was an American version, which was almost futuristic sci-fi in the 1950s.
Okay.
It was terrible.
I think I saw that one.
That one was right on where my Winston gets caught and arrested and taken to the Ministry of Love.
That’s where they torture you.
The Ministry of Love, yes.
And he put him in a cell and his next door neighbor’s there.
And his next door neighbor says, stay away Winston, stay away.
I’m a thought criminal.
Don’t come near me.
I’m a thought criminal.
I didn’t know myself and my daughter told me.
That’s right.
That was in the book, wasn’t it?
And you see, that’s where they’re bringing us until we’re not sure of ourselves.
And the American Psychological Association is all part of this.
They’ve been turning out books for years saying, you know, no one can be trusted because we’re all prone to do
irrational things.
So we’re all potentially criminologists, you see.
And that’s what that puts me in mind of when they start to talk about mandatory psychological testing for everybody.
This is all part of the 1984 structure that Orville warned us about.
And he showed us what they would do if we’d let them.
And you see it happening now.
Now the next thing you’re going to hear is, you know, there’s a science program on television.
And I said, you know, you can take your ear wax and some mucus from your nose and go to the washroom and mix it
with some urine.
And you have an explosive there.
You know, so you’re a walking chemical factory of exploits.
So we can’t trust you at all.
And we’ll all sit there if an expert tells us and nod our heads and say, you know, he’s right.
That’s what they’ll do to us if we let them.
If we let them.
Yeah.
We’ve got to stop disbelieving, you know, suspending our disbelief and start saying and laughing at them instead.
We’ve got to start doing this.
We’ve got to start doing it now before it becomes a habit.
And we’re all used to going, scraping and stripping and having body cavity searches.
We’ve got to stop it now.
And do you think it bothers them if we laugh at them?
Pardon?
Do you think it bothers them if we laugh at them?
Oh, absolutely.
Good.
Oh, it bothers them.
Oh, we should remember that.
If you control freaking, you laugh at a control freak or a schoolyard bully.
And that makes them worse, you know.
And when they get worse, they do the stupidest things which make you laugh even louder,
and lets other people see how stupid they are.
Yeah.
See, the bully mentality will not stop until you stop it.
You have to stop it for them.
That’s right.
There’s no end to the sadism that they will produce if you just keep taking it.
When we talked on the phone a few days ago, I know that a lot of times the conversations
that we have, even though we’re talking truth, it can be very depressing.
And one of the things you said, I wanted our listeners to hear this because it’s wonderful.
To hear you say it, I know it so, but you said this is not a lost cause.
No.
There are people waking up, and more and more people are waking up.
Yeah.
And then we come into the second reality.
Because the first one is just understanding what’s happening now.
Then you realize the second reality is that you question everything you’ve taken as normal
and start re-questioning that.
And I mean everything.
Re-evaluating everything.
And that’s when you get another shock.
You realize that everything in your system was given to you.
The culture was created.
Everybody’s culture has been, except maybe the last remnants of the dying people in Africa.
Every culture was given to us.
Again, Plato wrote about it in the Republic.
And he was taught by the Egyptian Empire, which ran the ancient world for 5,000 years.
So this is old science that’s still being used today.
And you have to re-evaluate everything.
You can’t get back something that was never used.
That never was.
A mutual friend of ours from Colorado.
I was talking with him this afternoon.
And we got talking on the Constitution.
And I told him about our conversation.
Excuse me when you were first down with us.
And how ticked off.
I got so ticked off I quit asking you to come on for a while.
But I was kind of ticked off because you wouldn’t say what you said to me on the telephone actually.
But the whole point is, I told him, I said I was like Noah Webster.
I would have fought to preserve that Constitution with my dying breath.
And then he was talking about James Madison.
And having read the Federalist papers that he felt that James Madison was really in their fighting for right.
And I said, well, the Constitution itself was treason.
You know, the Continental Congress had no power.
And the state, under the Articles of Confederation,
the US Congress, or the Continental Congress literally had to ask the state’s permission to do just about anything.
And he said, yeah, but they had to do, the big thing they had to do was stop the trade wars between the states.
And I said, you know, I saw a video.
And the video, by the way, was put out by a Mormon group.
But that’s when I was so in love with the country and the flag and what it meant to me.
And I thought it was a really beautiful video.
But now I see, and they literally showed, you know, it was like a documentary drama, docudrama.
And they literally showed the fight, the shooting between people, between the states over trade issues.
And I thought, well, geez, that’s a really great reason why we had to have a central government, you know.
And this is what I told him when we talked.
I said, I see that those trade wars were promulgated.
They were orchestrated to convince the people that they needed to do something different with, you know, the form of
government.
And Madison came in with that document ready to go.
He was part of the program.
And he’s not ready to let go of that yet.
And I see myself there, Alan.
But I told him, I said, you know, you look at things and you look at things so totally different, much more clearly.
From knowing you, Alan, and from learning what we’ve learned, everything you see, you can see behind the scenes.
You can just see behind the scenes.
And I was telling him about Ralph Borgia’s casebook, the Constitution that never was.
He says, oh, yeah, you know, and he kind of was like me.
I wouldn’t even look at the book when it was given to me because I said, oh, this is just another book to try to rip our
Constitution apart.
And then when you find out that our framers did frame us and that that whole thing was the setup and everything
leading up to it was the setup.
But that’s hard to take.
I mean, if you’re an American, Alan, that Constitution, that boy, that’s your protection against everything.
I know.
Excuse me.
Again, it’s tribal instincts, which they understand.
Every culture is given a foundation myth, and that’s what it’s called in sociology, at a higher level, foundation myth.
Same with religions, et cetera.
And that becomes your culture.
And it’s instilled in you, your parents.
But once you get one generation believing it, that the children born into it think it’s quite natural.
It must be true.
And I was done with repetition, repetition, repetition.
But there’s no doubt about it.
To me, the United States was set up to do exactly what it’s doing.
You know, Alan, it looks so clear to me now.
When you said it, I did not disbelieve it.
It just rang too true.
However, after the research that I did, you know, in the writing of the book there and folks, it’s Jewish persecution I’m
talking about.
Actually, it’s really misnamed, but it was going to be an article and turned in.
But in chapters 12 and chapters 18, the questions just came into my mind.
And then I’d pull a book off the shelf and I’d do some searching on the Internet.
Those two chapters just about did me and Alan, because there was nothing left for me to hang on to.
Absolutely nothing left.
And all it really did.
Well, but it was important to me.
It confirmed what you said back there eight years ago, Alan.
It’s been a long time, eight years.
Yeah, they needed a champion that would take over and bring in the new world order for the elite.
No one trusted the elite of Europe because they played so many games and caused so many wars over the many
centuries.
There wasn’t a country in Europe they could entrust to it, the public would believe.
So they wanted a knight in shining armor that appeared brand new and wasn’t tainted and they created the United States
to do it.
And that’s why they gave it to the mortals on the Great Seal, you know.
And that’s why they chose the pyramid to do it, announcing the birth of a new world or secular order.
And that’s why the Grand Orient sent us the Statue of Liberty.
Yeah.
Sent me all your criminals and just bring them in.
Here my arms are open for you.
Yeah.
And so the multicultural country…
They keep the worst aggressor in the latter part of the 20th century and the main aggressor in the 21st.
Yeah.
So that’s what this role was to do, was to bring in, as Daddy Bush said it, you know, a new world order.
It’s coming into view.
Yeah, I said it on September the 11th.
Yes.
Thousands of men.
No, in 1991 on September the 11th, he repeated it again.
Yes, 1991.
Yeah.
September, 11, 10 years before.
Yeah.
There was a statement that was made and I did find it on the Internet where it was an anonymous somebody in the Bush
administration.
And I know with your memory you would be able to repeat this when they said we are now an empire.
Mm-hmm.
Would you share that again with our listeners?
Yeah, that was nothing though.
I grew up in the Baltimore paper.
Uh-huh.
But it was not a whole bunch of them.
It was in a bunch of them.
It was called the advisor of the Bush bunch, the wild bunch, I guess we can call them.
The axis of evil.
Yeah.
The evil axis.
Yeah.
And he said, we are an empire now.
He said, and we’ll give you your reality.
And he said, when you’re trying to catch up and figure out what that is, we’ll give you another reality.
Because we are an empire now and that’s just the way it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We give you your reality.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And he’s right because they dish out to the big media what the big media repeats to us.
Now in old days, it’s not so long ago that was called straight propaganda.
And that was taught to universities that all news is propaganda.
Yeah.
And that isn’t taught anymore to the general public.
But it is still taught to the top of leaders.
And they’re off screen.
And they lose, they’re born into this world.
Uh-huh.
And not lose their minds.
They’ve never had their own minds, have they Alan?
No, they’ve never had, they believe, truly, that they are the epitome of evolution.
You know, the height of evolution.
Well, they’re born into it.
Yeah.
And they believe it, though.
They hear it going out.
Well, sure.
But it’s like people, you know, when you’re born into a particular religion.
Yeah.
It’s like it’s in your cells, Alan.
Oh, yeah.
And these guys, too, are the umpteenth offspring of the inbred offspring.
Right.
They don’t have any compassion for those little people, the commoners below them.
Right.
And the commoners breed because they pick their own partners generally because they’re young
and hormonally driven.
Um, that’s the reality of life.
It’s another thing that has to be faced, you know.
So many things have to be faced to break through into a reality.
Um, the fact that we do have drives, and these drives as well are guided by the ones that
have taught to create cultures.
But the fact is, um, they lead themselves to nothing for the common people.
Nothing at all, especially.
Well, you know what?
I suppose there are some breakaways.
I suppose there are some.
They are.
They don’t last long.
No.
They have accidents.
Or get sent, you know, to Africa or something.
Um, but, um, you were describing to me one time how they’re raised, Alan, and any, any
compassion that a natural person would feel is erased out of them by the way they’re treated
as they’re being raised.
And you remember, you were talking about how the boys, you know, they’re sent off to the
private school.
That’s right.
The school masters are homosexuals.
Uh-huh.
The boys have to take their pants down to have their butts whacked with the board.
Yeah.
And before you know it, they’re being stimulated by violence.
Yeah, it’s not only that.
I mean, it’s definitely even before school because they’re brought up with a nanny.
Uh-huh.
And the mother has minimal contact with her children.
And the whole idea supposedly is to make them have a stiff upper lip and get serious
and be a man, you see, and all that kind of stuff.
But the point that they’re doing is making sure there’s no compassion in there.
And like everything that’s deprived, you get an exaggerate need for it in a sense.
And so they go into military or, or they want to.
That’s why the main, uh, um, figures down through history, uh, they create empires.
But the big war makers were primarily homosexual.
Yes.
And they were probably sexually abused as children.
Maybe right, right from infancy.
Yeah, that’s true.
And even to prove it, you know, when you went to Oxford or Cambridge, uh, as a newcomer,
a new fellow, you’d be assigned to a senior pupil and you would be as basically a servant.
And you were called.
And still is called that a fight.
That was the term that was given to you.
That’s what they called him a fag?
You’re a fag, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it’s gay now.
Mm-hmm.
And you know what?
I’ve, I’ve, you know how you talk to us so much about the words and the meanings of words?
Yeah.
This was something, uh, I wanted to share with our listeners.
And maybe the next time we could talk about this, the alphabet, the, the, the, where the alphabet came from even now.
Oh, yeah.
Do you, is there a history?
Yeah, there’s a history.
Although it’s a murky one because then very good reasons for being murky because it’s, it’s also a coding.
I mean the whole language we have is a code actually.
Uh-huh.
It has inner meaning.
Uh, it’s numerical as well.
The Chaldeans had supposedly one of the first linguistic and numerical codes built into the language.
And it’s never been any different when you go back through them all.
Even today it is marvellous language you pick.
There’s coded, the same coding as in this.
Yes.
And, um, the book that I’m, had read about this, they also talked about the actual, uh, energy of a word.
And at the end of this paragraph, the author said, um, he said, for instance, we cannot talk peace into existence using the
words of war.
And neither can we elicit love from another using the terms of threats.
But he, he sends a few paragraphs discussing the, the, the energy of the words and how we’ve lost, how we’ve lost our
ability to communicate on more than just the spoken level.
And even the spoken level has been minimized.
It’s called linguistic minimum.
Right.
As it takes more and more words out of the dictionary, it’s almost there.
You can’t express yourself.
You can’t express yourself.
Well, can we talk about this next time?
Sure.
I’d like to, folks, we’re out of our hour here, and we’ll be back with you next Wednesday night.
Thank you very much for being here.
Remember to tune in Monday and Tuesday, 9 p.m. Eastern for here and week.
Good night, folks.
Night.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.
It is Wednesday. It’s a rainy Wednesday here, and it was a rainy Tuesday and Monday and Sunday and Saturday, and I
guess we’ve had about maybe five hours of sunshine in the past week,if that, yet it’s been a lovely day because my
sister’s here with me now.
My sister was living in Michigan. She lost her husband almost ten years ago, and we decided it was really silly for us
spending all the time we did on the telephone when we both could be together.
So this got in last Saturday, and we’ve almost got her settled already.
So the rainy days have meant nothing. They were just rainy days, and inside the sun has just been shining,
and it’s been wonderful. And my sister’s listening to this broadcast tonight, so I love you.
I’m so glad you’re here. Okay, so with that said, let me share our spiritual message with you, ladies and gentlemen.
I did this some time ago. This is from A Course in Miracles. It’s from the workbook on page 58.
It says that your holiness reverses all the laws of the world.
It is beyond every restriction of time, space, distance, and limits of any kind.
I think that in my mind what this is doing is just defining or describing the one that we know is Jesus,
being in the world but not of the world, and overcoming the world, the physical, while being here in the physical.
I’m going to do that again for you. Just listen to this.
My holiness reverses all the laws of the world. It is beyond every restriction of time, space, distance, and limits of any
kind.
And in my mind and in my heart, well, Jesus said in the New Testament, talking to Pontius Pilate,
when Pontius Pilate was trying to tripping up, and he asked if he was king, and Jesus said,
my kingdom is not of this world. And he said, I have come into this world for one cause, and that is to bear witness unto
the truth.
There are many truths that we have been given that are in that Old Testament.
I believe that they’ve put words in the mouth of Jesus in the writings and the so-called things of Jesus,
just to make changes. Maybe one word here and there, maybe a whole bunch of words.
But there is truth there, and I believe that he was a demonstration of who we truly are and what our potential is.
And what I just read to you, that’s what it reminds me of.
And our guest this evening, again, is Alan Wadd. Alan, thanks for being here.
It’s a pleasure.
Do you have any comments or thoughts about what I was just talking about?
Yeah, my mind tends to flow.
Your mind tends to flow?
No, and then…
That’s an understatement, isn’t it?
It’s just a task.
My mind tends to flow.
It’s an ideal that everybody tries to strive for.
But those who know that we try to strive for it use it for their own purposes.
Okay, and would you expand on that because I’m not quite sure?
Well, if you look at all of the various movements of followers, not the leaders, but followers in various groups and
NGOs and so on,
they truly do believe they’re doing everything for a better world.
They have no one idea.
They have no other nature to try to be good and help and so on.
Okay.
They have no idea that there’s very rather opposite people at the top with a different conclusion in mind,
but they need the help of the true believers.
And we manifest a world which is never the one we envisage.
When you say they need the help of the true believers, are you talking about a religious belief?
All of that, all of that, even the ones that are involved in all the programs for saving the planet and so on,
and who have been brainwashed by all the big nature programs on TV, which is always one-sided propaganda,
they really do believe they’re trying to make a better world,
but they have no idea.
Again, because of their ignorance, they don’t search for further truths or agendas.
They don’t want to look at the nasty side of off-controlled society.
They would stifle individualism completely.
And all of these groups that they’re involved in all emanate back to are from the United Nations.
Well, UN has been charged with all these groups.
And in their, quote, true belief thing, they truly believe that the United Nations is our answer to peace in this world.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
But those, again, remember the United Nations has started with bureaucracies that are intergenerational.
And they have their own schools to train their own children, to take over from them.
However, once in a blue moon, when you hear a person at the United Nations speaking,
that isn’t the front spokesperson person, the PR person for their department,
once in a while you’ll get the real bureaucrat there,
and they don’t even talk to you like the public, like the public.
They don’t nick it nice and, as we were quoted,
they’re pretty direct with their statements of dictatorial language of how the world is going to be.
You mean you’re not talking about reports that are fed, that are actually available to the public?
For example, what the heck was it under Clinton for sustainable development, the report on sustainable development?
I got about five. I was able to order those books.
They were free before they quit giving them away.
And their language in those reports is so couched that you have to learn to understand their language,
or somebody reading them, Alan, would think it’s all so wonderful.
So they’re saying what they mean, and they’re absolutely meaning what they say,
but the people don’t read it that way.
And it’s legalistic language they’re using which has gone through the blender to tone it down for the public relations
department,
and that’s the ones that they give to the public, the masses, as they say, the finished product.
It sounds nice and icy, but there’s different intentions behind it,
because the society of sustainable development, under all the hype of crisis, crisis, crisis,
has got a lot of decent people following this and believing it,
because it’s marketed to them by their news and by the television program.
It’s marketed constantly, and so there’s a one-sided view of everything,
all the other gaps and the other side of the story is never given, so they truly believe it’s all for the best.
Yes, an example of that. We discussed this at length.
I’m sweet, Liberty, not you and I, but in the past, there was a thing going around called the 2020 Vision 2020.
I had a lady from Texas on with us who was involved in one of those, what do we call them,
where they’re dialoguing the people to consent this.
She said they are so slick, and they talk to these people.
Of course, they’ve got all the facilitators there, and these are all people in the community,
and they ask them how they want their community to look in 20 years,
and do you want open spaces for your children to run and play, and do you want this,
and everybody’s going yes, yes, and so they come up with it, and they put it into resolutions within a county or a
township,
but usually a county, and that’s there on the books.
It’s on the books, and in 20 years in 2020, they’re going to say, here it is, by God, it’s a law,
and the people help them do it, not knowing.
Not knowing that the real agenda, and it’s a world where the thing, when individualism,
when free will and choice is stifled, strangled actually, that’s the end, you see.
That would be the end of living for people who enjoy individuality.
When you cannot make choices for yourself, you’re looking at totally controlled the science,
where everything’s made for you.
Right, at the end of, maybe we’d still be breathing and moving, but not living.
No creativity at all.
Right, right.
A cradle to grave, that was the old socialist thing.
However, as you’ve said, that they’ve never made it, right at the grand finale, you know, they’re sent back into their
holes, Alan.
Yeah.
And I’m not saying that, that okay, fine, we have nothing to worry about.
You mentioned the missing link last program.
Yes.
And you see, the found the missing link is the bureaucrat.
Oh, okay.
That was a joke.
I thought you were going to give us a synopsis of what you said was not a drive-by question.
Well, that’s it, because if you go into these caves, you live in the Column Government building,
and you’re trying to get help with some form of censure, you’ll see them sort of scurrying alongside the walls,
keeping to the walls, like shadows.
And if you ask them for help, they murmur something like, it’s not my department, and then they disappear inside doors.
Yeah.
These dark little caves you live in.
And it isn’t.
That’s the missing link.
Right, and it isn’t funny.
That’s true.
Yes, I know.
It is true.
Yeah.
And it is true, as you said, that there is no complaint department in this system.
No, it’s a gang system.
Yes, and I’ve said this before on the air, but it’s been a long time since we’ve discussed it here in Pennsylvania talking to
a state legislator.
We were talking about the agencies and the bureaucracies created around and, you know, within the agencies.
Yeah.
And he told me, first of all, okay, there are two different conversations with two different people here, but he told me
that they began to realize the mistakes they made in the power that they gave to these agencies, the bureaucrats.
But he said we can’t, no matter what we do, what we introduce, we can’t even get it out of committee to get it changed.
And in another conversation, this was with another reps secretary, it had to do with children family services, Alan.
Oh, yeah.
And they had people calling up, you know, where children family services were harassing and abusing and taking their
children under, you know, armed officers, et cetera.
Yeah.
And when the state reps called, what they said simply was this, you created us, you gave us this power, there’s nothing
you can do about it.
Mm-hmm.
That’s what he was told.
Yeah.
And it was the same thing with the other one that you knew.
There was a farmer who sat on the board for something, but with taxes for property taxes, and they were receiving the
farms and so on or for closing.
Oh, yeah.
And the answer he gave you?
Well, yeah, that was Walt Barnes, that was our county commissioner, and he is a farmer, has a large farm, and he had
returned a call to me.
Apologize that he hadn’t returned it sooner, but they were out, what do they call it, when they’re seizing homes, they’re
taking over, you know.
Yes.
Stealing is the word.
Yeah, stealing is the word.
He didn’t use the word, and he said it so nonchalantly.
And I said, isn’t that a shame, Walt?
He said, what?
What do you mean?
I said, taking people’s homes, because they couldn’t pay their taxes.
I said, my God, people believe that by working hard and paying off their mortgages, they’re going to have security in
their elderly years, and because they can’t pay $2,000 taxes, their home is gone.
He says, well, we have to do something, or nobody pay their taxes.
And that was it.
And I thought Walt Barnes was a nice man.
I thought he was.
And maybe there’s in ways about him that he showed some decency, but it meant nothing to him.
And you know what?
I think about the fact that what goes around comes around.
It doesn’t always happen, maybe, just by time, but it often does, Alan.
I know.
And I mean, it’s so wrong to wish that something like that would happen to someone like him, because we’re creating
our own negativity to come back around.
Well, this has been asked for thousands of years.
Why did the wicked prosper?
And you see, because the system we live in is the one system for thousands of years based on money, based on a
hierarchy of control of money right down to the bottom.
And it’s got its own secret society at the top, and it’s helping secret society beneath it.
They can always rationalize it and work for them for self-preservation in some ways, and self-aggratization in others.
So this is the problem.
We live in an artificial system where we don’t trade things, we don’t swap things, exchange things.
We use this thing called money, and once we accept it, it rules our lives.
And the people who rule our lives, we never even get to meet.
And we haven’t found a way yet to do without it, have we, Alan?
Well, they won’t let you do without it, that’s just it.
A hundred years ago, even less, you could barter to an extent.
But that even has been taken away, they call it the underground economy.
And have ads on television how the underground economy is robbing you the taxpayer by not paying their share.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because they trade…
Okay, here’s a beautiful example of barter.
I shouldn’t maybe say it.
The tax collectors will be at my door.
My neighbor about an hour ago brought over four bales of hay, small bales of hay.
Yeah.
From outside the mudroom there, where it’s so muddy because it’s raining all the time.
And he brought it around.
He and his wife were here, and I went to pay him.
I said, now is it $2 or $2.50 a bale now?
He looked at me, he said, nothing.
I said, well, if you won’t take it, then I won’t be able to ask for hay anymore.
He said, my God, I already live with a woman who’s worrying all the time.
He said, we’re neighbors.
And I had given her a jar of my pickle relish.
She said, we’ve been paid, Jackie.
We got a jar of pickle relish, and thank you.
And we may need a favor from you sometime.
Now, that’s what it’s all about, isn’t it, Alan?
That’s it.
That’s called human natural decency.
Yep.
But they don’t allow that, you see, because we’re ruled by a gang at the top
who believe that they own us, you see.
And they have decided, and it’s all their economic books,
that the public actually exists to serve the economy.
I know.
You see, that’s their law.
We’re living under a gang rule here with its own rules and regulations.
Well, if parents knew that when their children in school are being given the assessment test,
if they knew that their children were being assessed for their future tax value,
I wonder if there would be more parents taking their children out of school.
And I would like to say this for our listeners, any of you listening
who would not want to believe what I just said,
go into the website to sweetliberty.org, go into the children’s section,
and read the article, Are Your Children Human Capital?
And then right under there is a presidential executive order signed by William Clinton
setting up a commission to study capital, and it included human capital,
and the government or other entities’ use of capital.
And they were also to report, Alan, on the, oh, my, oh, what is it?
What is the word I’m trying to say?
When your car starts losing value?
Depreciation.
It’s a depreciation, thank you.
The depreciation of human or of capital.
That was part of what the commission was reporting on.
And if you took out all the other kinds of capital and just read in there
human capital, you’d see what our children and what we are to them.
And it’s right from their own, this is quoted from their own words.
And it goes much, much deeper and more insidious than what you’re talking about,
because it all goes right into genealogy as well.
Because the, remember the eugenics society is what they used to call bioethics committees.
But now we have bioethics.
Yesterday it was, it was, it was genetic societies and eugenics.
And the Rockefellers were the first ones to fund it in the U.S.
And in fact, they were responsible for getting laws through that had mandatory abortions
with certain people who the class is possibly defective, etc.
Right into the 1970s in the U.S.
Now they changed that name because of when they brought the gene, the Genome Project.
Suddenly on the media we had these, these instant, that’s what I enjoy about these things.
We have instant panels that just happen to be there looking after us
and they’re called bioethics committees.
Well these bioethics committees are there to do the PR for the big boys
who want to upgrade their stock for the next type.
They don’t want people with possible allergies
or who will be sick in their life and off work and this kind of stuff.
The same stuff as we saw prior to World War II, leading up to World War II even.
You see even further back in the 1800s with needs and different ones
who talked about the unfit shouldn’t live.
This is what it’s all about.
They were a productive market, a cattle market with the cattle
who are healthy and not too bright
but bright enough to do the work that we’re assigned to
as we go through the changes and as we go through the creation of the new types of humans.
This is what all of this comes together.
It’s a huge spider web that comes together with the testing of children,
the genealogies of both parents,
the possibilities, the sickness, inheritance, dominant genes,
all of that to be fixed and eliminated for the future.
They want efficiency.
That’s their plan.
And they’re going ahead with it. This is happening.
I know.
There was an excellent movie called Gattica.
Called what?
Gattica.
G-A-T-T-I-C-A.
I think it was.
Yeah, sounds like it.
And it was about a very near future
where they bring the first types of test tube type cloned people up into adulthood
and they’re now superior because they weren’t bred in the old way
and all the defective genes supposedly were taken out
and put in with the superior genes.
Is this a new movie?
Yes, and it creates two quantities of citizens, the old type and the new type.
You type in all the government jobs and get to go to NASA and all this kind of stuff.
It’s worth seeing.
Yeah, and it’s a new one.
Yeah, it’s been out for about 10 years.
Oh, it is.
I asked if it was a new one, you suggest.
Okay, there was another movie, Remember This?
And in fact, I think you told us to watch it and I don’t recall the name of it
about the people who were all genetically…
Oh, engineered in a sense.
And there were certain people who escaped it
and those who escaped it were total outcasts.
Do you recall that movie?
Well, I know they had the same thing in Brave New World
where the ones who would not take part and stay in the habitat areas
lived in the forest and they were called the primitives by the elite.
And they had their babies from their bellies.
That’s right.
Yes.
You know, going back to the bioethics with the human genome projects
and creating or making, we would say, the perfect slave
and the perfect worker bee, the bioethics also includes the euthanasia
of those useless eaters.
And when I think about that word, if I’m not mistaken, doesn’t euthanasia mean
to put somebody to sleep like a dog or an animal?
Yeah.
Isn’t it supposed to be a kind and gentle thing?
It’s a nice way to kill something.
Yeah.
But I think about… I think about Jerry Scheivel.
And they murdered her…
They actually sacrificed as they were signing the free trade…
Right.
The United continent agreement, Fortress America, was down in Waco, 2005 in March.
That was her sacrifice and that was her big distraction from what they were doing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The name itself is so strange because a Scheivel in old European languages
used to be a substitute for a priest that would take confession in rural areas
when the priest couldn’t be reached for last rites.
You know, that was her husband’s name, Scheivel.
Yeah.
And what about the name Scheivel?
And the Scheivel was a sin eater.
So in a sense, he took the sins upon the person.
Wow.
So all the connotations of your typical sacrifice.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Then maybe you could add to this.
Her maiden name was Schindler because, you know, she was referred to as Terry Schindler,
Scheivel.
Uh-huh.
And what does Schindler mean?
Does it mean anything?
Not so much.
But then again, the Terry’s interesting because Terry generally is the earth, you see.
Uh-huh.
Why is the dominant one to rule the planet?
The Y genes, of course.
Her name was Teresa.
Yeah.
They were Catholic.
Uh-huh.
But Scheivel or Scheivel, F-D-H-I-A-B-O, was her murdering husband.
Uh-huh.
And so because they could have done that at any time, they pulled it out of the works
a few times.
Three times, yes.
Uh, to get the public all talking about it, debating it.
And this is why they do these on certain occasions.
And then they pulled it out of it at the right time.
They covered up the Waco deal for the United Americas.
Yeah.
That was really interesting because there was about 90, 95% coverage of what was happening
with the Terry Scheivel.
Yes.
And only two and a half minutes of coverage on the first greatest event since the American
Revolution, which was the amalgamation of the Americas.
Yeah.
And this is your free press.
Come on.
Right.
Yeah.
They play with our minds all the time.
Yeah.
And it was also the first on the books, really, again, given tacit consent by a public that
eventually accepted it.
That was it.
Yeah.
But legally ordered.
It was legally ordered.
Yeah.
To a lie, not just an alive, but an actual person who was not.
She was brain damaged.
She was not brain dead.
Yeah.
She moved.
She laughed.
She cried.
And they claimed that she was, she had permanent.
They pee, whatever, but she was permanently brain damaged.
And therefore that’s enough of a reason to kill somebody.
Well, they claim that she had, she had nothing that her brain, you know, on one of the TV
things, I think it was Larry King live when Michael Scheivel was on.
They showed x-rays.
And of course these x-rays could have been of anything, but there was this great big dark
spot at the, a pretty large area.
And they said that whole part of her brain was dead.
This was Carrie’s x-ray and surely it was fraud.
Yeah.
And regardless, though, we looked after people for hundreds of years, thousands of years
that were damaged.
That now, that creates a precedent, you see, for the loss of condenses to decide in the
future who should live and who should die according to your ability to function in
the illegal system.
Well, as you said, yeah, but it was the first time that they had the approval, even, of
the people, the masses of the people in this country.
There were a lot of people in other countries who, well, they weren’t getting, you know,
stormed by the media as the people were here.
But when you think that they could show a video of Carrie looking around when her mother
walked into the room and a big, great big grin coming onto her face while they were
showing the video, a permanent vegetative state, PBS is what they call it, vegetable.
She was nothing but a vegetable.
And they were saying this while they were showing that video.
And that was, again, the dehumanizing terminology they used, which is typical when they want
to kill something and make it acceptable to the public.
It’s the same with abortion.
We stopped calling a baby a baby and we called it a fetus, which is just a Latin term for
the baby, you see.
However, Alan, think about this.
So this was a double thing because they weren’t just saying she was in a permanent vegetative
state.
They were showing her being alive, being aware, having feelings, emotions.
She was responding to her mother while they were saying she was in a permanent vegetative
state.
And then people…
That was intentional.
Of course it was.
It was intentional to get you to see, well, even though I see with my own eyes, and I could
think for myself, I will take the proportion to work for it.
Actually, of course, people don’t go through that thought process.
So that’s exactly what they do.
The announcers said it, the news persons said it, so regardless what they say, we are…
I pledge allegiance to the King of Kings, and to this kingdom come, on earth as it is
in heaven.
Alan?
Yeah.
Um, I made a note to ask you this this evening because, excuse me, actually I made the note on break,
um, I get phone calls from our listeners and you know there are so many people who are listening to long archives.
Yeah.
I mean hours and hours and hours and one of the questions I keep getting is what can we do?
What can we do besides knowing this?
And because so many of them seem to have the question, I’m sure when you get calls and you get letters and emails,
but I thought maybe you would respond to that question to our listeners tonight who had the question.
The concerns that they have.
Well the first thing to do is don’t sit on information if you have it and understand it.
You’ve got to share it somehow and it doesn’t mean you’re around like an evangelist trying to wake people up.
It’s more a matter of you do anything.
I know one old guy in Texas that hands out leaflets that he prints up himself and he’s in his 80s.
And he goes into his streets in cafes, laundry mats, books him up in the walk.
This is where you can grab the audit that an odd person is thinking and is trying to wake up.
They’re taking the step of asking questions and you see some answers and they get in touch.
You’ve got to use the information you have because people, you see, I could go on like the rest of them do about what’s
happening right now.
You made all the details.
And all the bills and who said what?
Yeah.
What bills coming through and what they’re going to do next to you.
Now that’s widely available to the public.
They have that.
It’s out there.
I have a much bigger overview of the whole process.
So nothing that’s done startles me at all because you know the whole agenda.
Right.
Nothing.
And the names who brings forward the bills, they’re totally irrelevant.
Totally irrelevant to the front minute as they get through.
Well, in the first place, they call them a sponsor of a bill, Alan.
I know.
They aren’t any, they have nothing to do with the writing of the bill.
No, right.
And even the Congress, and everybody knows this too, they don’t even read the bills.
Even the Patriot Act, they were told not to read it because it would be unpatriotic to read it.
I mean, come on.
They were told it would be unpatriotic to read it.
Yeah.
I thought it was put in through so fast and it was so…
They were actually told that it would be unpatriotic to read it.
There’s a little bit of freedom borrowed to read any of it.
And that was in the newspapers here in Canada.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And I wonder if the one…
Come on.
We’re not living under any sort of democracy.
No.
If you’re living under a society, everybody up there is sworn allegiance to Freemasonry
in one of its forms, one of its many names, you know, and they’re all getting their payoffs
and kickbacks, etc.
I’m glad you said in one of its many names.
Oh, yeah.
There’s so many of them.
And they’re all the same.
It’s one big pyramid.
You see different names.
Are all the littler things like the Elks Club and those are?
Those are all Freemasons.
Well, I think we went over some of that before.
Some of the ones that have the little fun, fun stuff as a sort of sight line, they belong
to other lodges, but they can have their fun lodges, too.
I see.
Yeah, they’ll have a real lodge somewhere.
So do you think that most of the members of those Elks will use that as an example?
They’re members of Masonic Lodge?
Yeah.
Okay.
It’s the same in the police forces.
Every policeman’s house you go into, you’re going to see the son there.
The mother and the father are so proud of them.
And he’s standing in his uniform as a cadet, and then next to him is one with his Masonic
Regalion, because every policeman, every bike.
But in the military, it’s told to join Freemasons.
Right.
You know, one of the funerals you had in Canada, with the last bunch that were killed by the
American planes, this brought another bunch killed here by American planes again.
No, tell me about this, please.
Oh, I don’t really follow it, so I generally watch any news with the sound off waiting
for the weather report to come on.
Right.
But some soldiers were strapped.
I wasn’t sure if it was Afghanistan or Iraq by the American plane.
Oh, no.
And so they’re having their funerals and they’re all crying and stuff.
Every time this happens, they’re killed.
It’s generally American planes that kill them.
And it’s a long history of this.
Even the casualties in Gulf War I was the same.
And then the next Gulf War is primarily American planes that kill them.
So that’s what’s been taking over the media right now.
But they did have a Masonic funeral at the one before when the press went away.
And when the press did say they donned their aprons and had their Masonic funeral for them.
So freemasonry, and Albert Pike said it too.
He says it would be very, very helpful to freemasonry if they could promote it amongst police and military.
So all official uniform, there’s your word, uniformity.
Because when you put a uniform on, you become part of a uniformity.
You form, nations form in something.
They create, they build, they form in shape.
So a uniform, you lose your identity and you swear allegiance to the form itself.
And that’s the danger with any kind of uniform.
And so besides passing out pamphlets, you know, we have new listeners who, once they begin listening, go back into
the archives.
We’ve had a long time, a lot of us, our long time listeners and myself, knowing you for eight years.
I’ve had a long time to digest and to settle in with some of the things that we’ve learned from ancient history.
You know, you’re telling us of ancient history and how long ago this plan was made.
And it is ancient. It goes back to millennia.
But when people get hours and hours and hours of this in one chunk, it really knocks them off their feet, Alan.
I know. And yet, in this particular time, it has to be done that way.
Because we don’t have the time. The sciences are ready to go.
It’s not a matter of a testing phase. All you have to do is to accept step by step the next step,
which is literally the creation of new types of humans, the acceptance of euthanasia,
which will be stepped up and stepped up for petty things. And this uniform society they’re creating.
And even to understanding and coming to the realization that they’re trying to kill us, I talked about…
You watch them spraying the skies every day.
Well, no, but I had a conversation with just a beautiful person earlier this week.
And that was one of the things she said because she found out about the vaccination.
She found out about genetically modified food and the spraying.
And she said to a friend, my God, they’re trying to kill us.
And that it is a rude awakening. And I could certainly empathize with her because I remember there was a time,
and I know that you probably remember me saying this to you.
I felt like, well, I still do at times. You feel like you’re living in a parallel universe or something, or existence.
I was so disoriented, I guess that’s the word.
And I said, Alan, nothing I look at, nothing I see even seems real to me anymore.
And you said, well, that’s a good place to start.
And once we settle into that and realize that everything that we thought we knew, it’s almost everything.
Maybe there were a few things we actually knew, but I mean, as far as history about our country, our constitution,
freedom and liberty,
none of it, I mean, it was all a lie.
And the fact that our culture has been given to us and it makes you so sad when you see our children today running
around with their hats on sideways
and their body piercing and the pants begging down to the top of the crack of their rump.
And the crotch of the pants comes down past their knees. They can’t even run.
It’s so pathetic. And it’s all, it’s African.
It’s not even African.
Well, I mean, I have always said this, some guy in a black area town did not go into a store and buy an oversized pair of
pants.
It was given to them.
It was marketed to them deliberately, thought out by professionals in the music industry, and marketed to them.
And they all adopted, just like they’d adopted the Teddy Boy era one time before that with the beatniks.
You know, a beatnik wore long hair, smoked dope, never washed his hair, and wore a pole neck sweater and smoked
dope.
That was what they tried to market at that time.
It didn’t work in some countries in Europe, so they came out with pop instead.
And then the Beatles came out with a little beetle haircut. Everybody annulated that.
And then the Beatles suit with no collar on the jacket.
That was the Nehru narrow jacket, wasn’t it?
Pardon?
What I can remember when they had what they called the Nehru collar is that was, it was some Indian leader anyway.
And it had no actual collar, it just stood up.
Yeah, well, but the Beatles didn’t have any collar at all. Just a jacket.
Kind of like a bellboy would have, in a sense.
Okay.
And then the Beatles’ hair covered a little fringe along above the eyebrows and winkle-picker shoes.
And they came out with hipster pants for guys.
We saw a hung on your hips if you had any.
I mean, very young guys don’t have much of a hipster.
Most guys don’t anyway.
That’s right.
And then, of course, and suddenly, of course, to time it with them, strangely enough, with their first hits,
those very items, it suddenly appeared in the stories.
Yeah.
Well, it’s because it’s all coordinated, because Plato said that the music industry and the fashion industry go together.
And drama.
And that was from 2300 years ago.
Yeah.
Nothing changes.
And, of course, in sociology, it’s called the culture-creating, creator industry.
It’s called that.
You know, and here I go back to that, what can we do thing?
Mm-hmm.
It, in my mind, there is something so powerful about knowing.
Yeah.
About understanding it.
And I think of the statement attributed to Jesus, that you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.
And I remember one time, we were talking on the air, and you were talking about the real controllers behind the ones
that we see and think are in control.
Yeah.
And that you said that their greatest fear is that enough people will realize the power within them.
Yeah.
And I ask you, how many do you think that it would take?
And you said, I don’t think very many, because there aren’t very many of them.
And to me, it’s sort of like, you know, the ignorance is darkness.
It’s like you’re walking around in your sleep or with your eyes closed and feeling your way around.
And when you suddenly wake up, it’s like seeing the light.
It feels to me like the more people that know this.
In fact, you said that about the monetary system, when I argued with you about the gold thing.
Yeah.
And I said, well, okay, fine.
If that was your solution, you said, when enough people understand it, it is going to collapse up itself.
Yeah.
And I believed that.
I mean, it just made, it just rang of such so much.
Yes, that is, it can collapse up itself.
And so, so as you said, right off the bat, knowing it isn’t just enough, knowing it, understanding it and being able to
share it.
And people will come up with ways.
Yeah.
People will come up.
And not, definitely not evangelize.
See, I know people who’ve literally got bitter because of their own ego, really.
They think, well, I understand that I’m bright.
I can put it across to this person and I’ll make them understand.
And you don’t realize you’re coming from a different world from the brainwashed world they’re still in.
And you seem crazy to them.
Yeah.
And Dan, you sense as well as you keep harping and harping on about it.
So you can’t take it, you only go for those who are starting to wake up and ask questions.
Forget the ones who are in the land of the dead.
If they wake up later, all the better.
But in the meantime, you cannot personally do it for them.
Right, exactly.
But once you are asking questions, you can start supplying them with the information.
Yes.
And whether they get it or not, as you said, we can’t do it for them.
And yet we don’t have to stop planting those seeds.
Yeah.
Because some seeds are a long time germinating.
That’s right.
And we might not be around.
People don’t get it until much.
There’s nothing worse than someone harping on and harping on to one who’s quite content.
Now, here’s the truth too.
You see, there’s a lot of people who are content in a socialized system where these invisible people they never meet.
Above them make all the decisions for them.
They’re quite happy with that.
And most of the people in every generation are followers.
They’re not leaders.
So you’ve got to accept that too.
You look for those with leadership qualities and with a true need to live a life where they can make decisions for
themselves.
This is where the human will comes in.
That’s what it’s all about, is having the will to make your own decisions.
There’s something I want to share that just came into my mind.
Because we do, once we know something, we want to share it with people and we talk about it like, okay, this is the way
it is.
Two times.
And I didn’t do it on purpose, but I saw it working.
And I don’t know why I don’t remember this.
I mean, to remember it.
I remember one day it was when they were having the terrible floods in Illinois, in the Midwest.
And they had a Bermuda low or one of the systems stalled off the coast.
Philadelphia had a month of weather in the hundreds.
People were dying, animals were dying, etc.
And it was stopping the rain from moving forth.
It was controlled weather.
Well, I’m at a hospital waiting room.
My brother was having a minor surgery.
And there was a newspaper laying there.
This was in Illinois in Springfield laying on a table in the waiting room.
There was just one other woman.
And it told about there was so much rainwater that there was flooding in areas where there were no streams and rivers
because the water was coming right up out of the ground.
Oh, yeah.
And I picked up the paper and I read the headline out loud.
And she looked at me.
I said, you know what?
Somebody told me.
And she said what?
I said that this weather that we’re having is not natural, but this is controlled weather.
And she said, I wouldn’t be surprised.
But maybe if I would have said, you know, this weather is controlled, don’t you?
She might have, you know, rolled her eyes and gone back to her magazine.
And I called into a radio station one night.
It was a big 50,000 watt station out of St. Louis.
The guy had a guy talking about the economic system.
And I called in and I talked about it like I had just heard this.
I said, I can’t hardly believe this, but that the Federal Reserve isn’t actually federal.
The Federal Reserve bank is owned by private individuals.
And that our money, all the interest, all the money that we owe is interest.
And I explained it real quickly how I had heard it.
That, you know, it’s our presses and our money and our paper.
And then we sell the bills to the Federal Reserve bank for like 2.7 cents per bill,
whether it’s a one or a thousand, and then borrow it back at 10% interest.
I said, would your guest comment on this?
And he said, thank you.
And he says, and this guy said everything she said was absolutely true.
But I didn’t call up like I was a know-it-all.
I called up saying somebody told me this and I can’t hardly believe it.
So maybe it’s for me, maybe I’m saying this as a remembering,
that sometimes just don’t talk like we know it, but that we just read it or maybe that would help.
Oh, another thing too, and I think this is a big failure a lot of people have.
They listen to all the different talk shows.
So they’re a broad spectrum of all the ego things that are going on.
And they hit someone who’s a complete novice with all of this at the same time.
And it’s just too much. You overwhelm them. And they just switch right off.
So you stick to a topic which you cannot relate to and leave it with them.
And then if they come back to you, you can see here’s another little thing you might be interested in.
You can talk it again.
But to try and give them all this stuff at the same time just overwhelms them.
And it’s the best psychological warfare technique to disable somebody.
Yes, and there are plenty of them on the earth today, aren’t there, Ellen?
Well, fear, fear, fear does it.
Fear does it. You can’t throw fear at people without giving them the solution.
Agents of paralysis. Yes, it is.
Well, we’re just about out of our hour.
And I think you should tell our listeners about your DVD, the reality check part two,
and go ahead and do it because we may have some new listeners that pop out.
Yeah, well, this is the latest one. There’s a book, Super Seal, and a site, and different things.
But the new DVD has good quality.
Very good.
All the problems with having ironed out of them.
Yeah.
And it’s different from anything that’s out there.
I go through some of the esoteric meanings behind things, which you’ll get right away
for the first time you’ll see certain things as a real YAR.
And I give you, I show you how the techniques are used on your mind.
I show it right to you.
That’s what’s worth getting.
Forget it, that’s the website, coming through TheMatrix.com.
Yes.
And how about the CD that you have of our first 12 broadcasts?
Do you still have it?
Yes, I do.
And I’ve also got, the books are also on PDF from people who want to, for $50 as opposed
to $75 for the paper ones.
You mean for all three of them?
Yeah.
And what do they do?
They download it themselves, they print it out?
No, I send it on disk.
Oh, Alan.
Yeah, send it to disk.
Oh, that’s good.
They can sit and read them all on the computer.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So instead of $25 a book and $75 for all three, it’s $50 for three.
Yeah.
That’s cool.
That’s good.
And there’s more coming out, there’s more different things coming out shortly.
Yeah.
If we’re allowed to go on, and if we’re not allowed to go on or something happens, which
it might, because we attract a lot of attention, then hopefully others will take up the banner
and carry on with it.
Well, yes, and don’t you feel grateful for Jason?
Mm-hmm.
And I certainly, I’ve never been able to even express enough to me, I didn’t have the words.
I don’t have the words to express my gratitude to Darren Weeks, our webmaster.
Yeah.
Because otherwise all of the information that is out there for literally millions of people
wouldn’t have been there if it wasn’t for them.
And you know, this is not a business, you see.
A lot of these other programs are businesses.
We don’t advertise things, we don’t sell things and all the other gizmos you can get,
which are generally fear-based buys.
We don’t go into that, so it truly is dependent upon help from the public.
In other words, we’re not saying come and get it before it’s too late and they’re all
gone and you’re dead.
That’s right.
For this disease is coming your way.
We have to cure it, so only $500 for now.
Yeah.
Well, I want to thank Jason too for what he’s doing for you, for the people.
And of course, Darren Weeks and folks on Monday and Tuesday, Darren is the host of this broadcast.
I actually fill in for him on Wednesday.
And he’s on night shift, isn’t he?
Yes, he is.
He is on night shift, but see, he does his broadcast on Monday and Tuesday, which are
his nights off.
Yeah.
And that’s why I’m filling in for him on Wednesdays.
So folks do be sure to tune in on Monday and Tuesday night at 9 p.m., same time, same
place, for Darren Weeks.
And you will be glad you did, I promise you that.
In fact, I would never, and I say this without exception, Darren Weeks would be the only
person that I would have thought of to ask to take over this broadcast now.
You know, they’re just, well, I’m accepting you, excuse me.
I wasn’t including you in that.
But there is nobody, no other broadcaster, no other body that I knew that I would have
asked.
Sweet Liberty would have been done when I went off shortwave, period.
Yeah.
And it’s because…
Yeah, these people step forward with these things going.
Exactly.
And I haven’t heard our music yet.
And maybe, you know what I think, maybe grandfather might be a minute or two early.
Is there anything else that you would like to share with our listeners before that?
Oh, don’t use an iron-shear clock.
Even with a grandfather.
Alan, you know I love grandfather.
One minute to go, I think.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, isn’t it…
It’s a good polish instead.
He, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well…
That’s true.
It’s the occasional person here or there who dedicates themselves to this because it’s
not for ourselves, it’s for those to come.
Yes.
It’s for the life we’re going to have or the non-life we’re going to exist through.
Yeah.
And that’s what it’s all about.
And when you say life, you’re not talking survival, you’re talking life.
Life.
Living.
And it looks like grandfather’s right on time here because I did hear our warning for
our one minute.
So we’ll be back next Wednesday night, folks, and be sure to tune in and remember Monday
and Tuesday.
And Alan, thank you.
Thank you.
And you’ll stay on for a sec, yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
Good night, folks.
Thank you for being there.
You’re listening to Jackie Petru and Sweet Liberty
And now, here’s your host, Jackie Petru
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen
Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty
Tonight is Wednesday
It is the 18th of October in the year 2006
And I’m back with you live here tonight, folks
I had programs, later programs, replayed for you
The last couple of weeks because of a cold that I had
And of course, because as many of you know
Alan and I, Alan Watt, came to some, what have been, impasse
On the last two broadcasts that we did
I am going to talk about that tonight
I really would rather not
Although my phone calls and the emails that I’ve been getting
I feel that I must at least address the issue
To answer some of your questions
Because I’m sure that there are those of you who have questions
That haven’t written and haven’t called
Let’s do the spiritual message first
And then we’ll get started
I would have liked to have been able to have somebody on with me this evening
Just to have a conversation, a give and take
That is, of course, what I’ve become so accustomed to
I used to do this broadcast by myself most of the time
I had guests on occasionally from time to time
But I did the broadcast by myself
And very often I would have something planned for the evening
I’d walk into the studio and a thought would pop into my mind
I’d be digging through files for papers that I wanted to use to share
Whatever it was that came into my mind
And I have very much enjoyed most of the conversations
That Alan and I have had on the air
Anyway, let me get to this spiritual message
Folks, this is from Matthew
It is Matthew 5 beginning at verse 14
These are words written in the red
And they’re words attributed to Jesus
The one we know as Jesus
He said, ye are the light of the world
A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid
And neither do men light a candle
And put it under a bushel
But on a candle stick
And it gives light unto all that are in the house
Let your light so shine before men
That you may, excuse me
Let your light so shine before men
That they may see your good works
And glorify your Father which is in heaven
And there’s one more I want to do here
I’ve done this many, many times
I love this, this is in 1 John 1 John
It’s in the back, towards the back of the New Testament
It is 1 John verse 4
Excuse me, chapter 4
And it begins here in verse 4
Ye are of God, little children
And have overcome them
Because greater is he that is in you
Than he that is in the world
And then we skip down to 7
Verse 7, Beloved, let us love one another
For love is of God
And everyone that loves is born of God
And knows God
And folks, I really, I don’t feel comfortable this evening
I want to tell you that
Because I’m not on here
I didn’t come on tonight to argue about
Or to denigrate or talk against Alan Watt
But there are questions that I hope, so hope
And I would be able to do together
Because of questions that people have posed to me
Questions that are sincere
Questions that really get to the very core
Of our very being, if you would
Because there is no contest, no dispute
From information that Alan has brought us over the past
At least five years
As far as ancient history goes
I don’t have the books
Most of us don’t have the books that Alan has referred to
Many of them, he’s had access to some mighty powerful works
And he has opened the eyes and opened the ears
And opened the minds of hundreds, thousands of people
Since 1998
And for those of you who are new listeners
And I might skip around here tonight folks
Because my thoughts do that to me
As I’m talking about one thing, another thought enters
And I take myself down a cul-de-sac
For those of you who are newer listeners
And who so appreciated the broadcasts
And the information that was shared
I want you to know that
At the website at www.SweetLiberty.org
There are a lot of archives
Alan has that suite at CuttingToTheMatrix.com
Even maybe more, I don’t know
Than we have at Sweet Liberty
As far as archives, as far as past broadcasts
That we’ve done together
Because to cover all of the information
That has been covered over these past years
And try to get it down into a little boil
So to speak, it’s just impossible to do
What I encourage you to do folks
The archives at www.SweetLiberty.org
They’re absolutely free
And the archives, the radio broadcasts
That CuttingToTheMatrix are absolutely free
And I would advise those of you
Who are newer listeners
To go back into the archives
We’ve covered it all
Over and over and over as a matter of fact
Our long-time listeners are very aware of that
Alan covered the same material
And as he said on the air
That it is said that people need to hear something eight times
Before they’re going to remember it
Maybe so
So there is very little
That it was being discussed
Even in this past three, four, five, six months
That hadn’t been discussed
Many times in the past
So once again
If you go back into the archives at www.SweetLiberty.org
And CuttingToTheMatrix
You’ll be able to catch up
Also, Nicholas has available
For our listeners
The entire year 2004
Which we were doing
For the most part of the year
We were doing four nights a week
And they weren’t all with Alan Watt
But many of them were
The year 2004
And the year 2005 are on disc
And you can get the entire year
2004 or 2005
For $120
It’s over 200 broadcasts a year
Is what it is
And so it’s less
If you can afford it
Or maybe want to go in with some friends
So that you can get the discs
And listen to the past broadcast
I think it’s a wonderful opportunity
For people who want to go back that far
And to listen to what’s been said in the past
Alan first contacted me
I was on shortwave
We had a very large shortwave listening audience
He contacted me first
In June of 1998
We talked on the telephone
Probably at least once a week
Sometimes twice a week
Until December
Before I invited him on the air
And then once we got on the air together
We did a lot of broadcasts together
The listeners, as I said, have so appreciated it
However, there was a hiatus
In even our communication
From December of 2001
Until sometime 2003
I believe it was around the middle of 2004
It was about two and a half years
That we actually lost touch with each other
And then he called
And we started doing broadcasts again together
So all in all, we’ve had about five years on the air
I regret the impasse that we came to
And I want to make it clear to you folks
I had a couple of calls from people
Who wanted to know about it
So I went in to listen to what he calls a blurb
And he said that it was last week
That he wouldn’t be doing the broadcast
Because I was having a replay
And also that he said that he believed
That we are at an impasse with a question mark
Well, I listened to a new one
That he’s done, I think it’s called
Eco vs. Truth
And in it, well first of all
He said that he would have it available
By 9.30 this evening
For you all to listen to
I was sorry to see that he was doing that
We’ve done so many broadcasts together
And he knows that Sweet Liberty is on at 9.00 p.m.
I noticed that on the 4th of October
Which was a Wednesday
And the 11th, and he, in his blurb
He said that he would have one
Ready to download for you tonight
And listen to
So it looks as though
Maybe he would reconsider
And maybe he would do his at 8.00
Or at 10.00 p.m.
Given that I am on WFAR
And I am on a specific time slide
Alan’s doing his from computer
And I think it would be very nice
After all these years
If there wasn’t a competition for time
So maybe Alan will reconsider
Give that a little bit of thought
And allow you all
To listen to Sweet Liberty
And the cutting through the matrix
If you so choose
I wanted to acknowledge the phone calls
That I’ve acknowledged
Those of you who’ve called on the phone
And many emails that I’ve received
Emails of support and emails
Saying please resolve this
So that you and Alan can start in again
Although many of you who send emails
Have said thank you for asking the questions
That I’ve asked
And hopefully that maybe Alan would be
Willing to answer directly direct questions
I want you to know that the impasse folks
Has absolutely nothing to do
With me being angry
That he and I do not disagree
Excuse me, do not agree
I don’t get angry with anybody
Who doesn’t quote belief
The way that I believe
And even though I share
My understanding of spiritual truth
If a person does not accept it
They do not accept it
And so the impasse has nothing to do
With my being upset
That he didn’t agree with my belief
Because in so many areas
We are on the same wavelength
The impasse was my desire
To have him answer or to define
If you would certain things
That he has said
And the answers are not forthcoming
The reason this is important to me
And you’ve heard me say this on the air
You’ve heard me say it on this broadcast
I’ve listened as we’re having conversations
Some nights and I think how
How overwhelming it can be
All of the information to really wake up
It is very, very overwhelming
And I know it because I experienced it
I was awake to a certain point
When Alan first called me
In fact maybe that’s why he called me
The first time he called
He said he had been listening
And that he told his wife
That I almost got it but not quite
And so evidently from listening
He realized that I am a seeker of truth
And that I wasn’t totally asleep
However, my awareness
If you would in this physical realm
Of the system
My awareness of that
Went back a hundred or two hundred years
In the history that I had read
I’m not talking about history
That we get in school
But Alan took us back a thousand years
Two thousand years
And my eyes were opened
It took a while
And sometimes he would say something
And it would take me four months to get it
And suddenly you get it
And when it’s all coming at you
I do understand how overwhelming it can be
Another thing besides how overwhelming it is
I don’t want to leave people hopeless
I don’t want to create hopelessness
Within anybody
That is not what I’m here for
And I know that it isn’t my purpose in life
It’s to bring hopelessness
And I pray
I have prayed in the past for discernment
To be able to know the truth
The difference between truth and lies
And truth sayers and the liars
Because not only would I ever, never
Intentionally mislead
Any one of you, anyone
I don’t want to do it unintentionally, folks
I don’t claim to have all the knowledge
That truth, I know truth
I know some truth, simple truth
I do know that as we so-so shall we read
I know that
I know that it is a universal law
And I also know that our Creator
Has blessed us, has bestowed every blessing
Already upon us
And it simply awaits our gratitude, our love
And our openness to receive it
I know that
I do know also that we are spiritual beings
And Alan knows that too
And they’re…
So now I’m going to stop here and back up a little bit
My concerns have become
A mixed message
What I see is a mixed message
That was why I was hoping that we could talk about these things on the air
Not personally, not privately
But talk about it on the air
For the benefit of you all
So that we can understand
If there is a way that we can understand a discrepancy
What I see is a discrepancy
Or maybe allow Alan an opportunity to restate
Maybe he misdated himself
At one time or another
And it doesn’t have anything to do with discrepancies
About ancient religion, excuse me, ancient history
It is on the spiritual level, folks
And this is my concern
And the fact that I have been an avenue
Since 1998 with that two and a half year hiatus
Right up till the current time
I have been the avenue
For Alan to get his message out
I feel a very deep
Sense of responsibility
Besides the love with which I do this broadcast
But a responsibility
I’ve had another broadcaster said
One time the trouble with Jackie is that
She debates with her guest too much
Whenever I had a guest on
That said something that I absolutely knew was not so
Then I would address it
And if it turned into a debate
Which I didn’t bring ever
Bring anybody on to debate with
But the one thing I would never do
Is to sit and let somebody make a statement
As though it’s fact when I know the actual facts
I’m not talking opinions here
Maybe a political thing, whatever
But I could not sit and not say anything
Because then to me
It would mean that my listeners
Accept that I agree
And I don’t agree with inconsistencies
And that is what this is all about
Is just inconsistencies
It is an opinion
And it isn’t beliefs
They’re just very simple and basic
Facts
But they, as I said earlier
They relate, they affect
The very core of our being
And I did, I do, I’m going to
Address a few of these this evening
Simply because we weren’t able to do it on the air
As I wrote to somebody that
Yes, we are in an impasse
I don’t know if it’s resolvable
Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t
But I do know that we need closure on this, folks
If it isn’t resolvable
I could not see myself coming on the air
And pretending that Alan Watt never existed
In our presence with me and with you all together
Now, excuse me
What I’m going to do here, I did this back in May
These are words that Alan stated
And that was May 17th, I believe, if I’m not mistaken
Or it might have been May the 24th
This is a conversation he was having
With our mutual friend, Miss Evie Bernthorn
And the reason I’m going to repeat this
Is because this was stated very emphatically
And it was also stated very emphatically
At another time on sweet liberty
The message today is different than this
He was talking about the secret societies
And he said that people need to go to meetings
And challenge them
This was part of the conversation
And make them admit that they have given a note
To another association or a club or whatever
And Miss Evie said that it seemed like
You’d become a martyr if you did that
Because if you got up there in front of all of them
And he said, yes, it would be like you are a martyr
But he said, you know, the policemen are nothing but bully boys
Then here’s where he began
The conversation that I transcribed from that conversation
They had, she had it on tape
Because he never said it again
When I wanted to talk about it
The subject was always changed
These are his words
He says, talking about the policemen being bully boys
That they’re in the minority
And once the head is cut off of any monster
The rest of it falls apart
I’m trying not to read this whole thing
But just to skip down
They’re just robots who take a central command in a paycheck
But you’re conditioned to them all as invincible
And undefeatable
But then really, you go beyond them
You go to the ones who are in control of it all
And point them out as being the gangsters that they are
They’re obvious gangsters
And that’s when they talked about going up to the crowd, etc
And then he said it would be like being a martyr
And he said it would be that anyway
He said there’s also another element to all of it, you see
And it does involve the fact that there is a consciousness in this world
And you can create consciousness in this world by willing it to be so
And when you have enough on the same wavelength as it were
Because the other side used this technique for sure
When you have other people who are willing
Another way to come into existence
That is the real war that goes on
And it is a spiritual battle
We know that as well as the physical, don’t we folks?
He said because at the very top of this
Behind all the religions
Behind all the masterminds that ever existed
And gurus
They have always known that there is such a thing
As a spiritual force within everybody
That can be utilized
And they’re more terrified of that than anything else
And again he said that’s the key
Because if you can keep everybody trapped in a world where everything boils down to
Matter
Things that are produced and procuring wealth
As long as they can keep us trapped in basic material needs
We cannot get to that plane where the real war goes on
And he said they’ve written about this
That’s what’s done me
Is that they did write about this
And when you have enough people
Just enough people
You don’t even have to be the 3%
But when you have enough
Who are honest enough
And who are self enlightened
They’ve come to that plateau
Who will will it to be another way
And that’s when their world will come crashing down
And big changes will be made
And that’s
As far as I’m going to go with that
That is the main thing that I wanted you to hear
Ladies and gentlemen
That within every individual
Is a spiritual force
And the reason this is them
I know that this is so
I know that this is so
And the reason that I bring this up
Because it is so important
In my mind
For all of us to know this
We don’t have to
We don’t have to twist ourselves in pretzels
We don’t have to pray to saints
We are one with our father creator
We are of our father creator
And the communication
Is within us
The ability to communicate is within us
And
I went and listened to
Some other broadcasts
That he had been on some other shows
Because people were calling me
And saying, did you hear this show
And he said this and he said that
And I would go to listen
And the one thing that I have heard him say
And he said it on Sweet Liberty Sense
Is that everybody doesn’t have spirit
Now that is exactly opposite
Of what I just read to you
And what was said on the air
On Sweet Liberty
To a very large shortwave audience
And I believe we were on the internet at the time
Not sure
But when people
If it was anybody
Just anybody who said that
You could take it with a grain of salt
It wouldn’t bother me
This is Alan Watt
Who’s been a guest on this broadcast
Hundreds of times
Who made the statement
In direct opposition
To the one that I just read to you
That was made
That within every single individual
Is a spiritual force
Now the message is
Everybody doesn’t have spirit
Everybody doesn’t have spirit
And that a spirit was made for us
But we have to call the spirit to us
And spirit doesn’t always come
That’s frightening to people
Who hear that
And the reason it’s frightening
Is that people hear it from Alan Watt
And I do know this
Is that in fact I mentioned it to Alan that Wednesday
There are many people
Who have adopted Alan as their new guru
And as Alan has cautioned you
And as he said many times
That people are just looking
For another guru to follow
For someone else to follow
When Alan Watt says it
People take it seriously
And if he had only been a one-time guest
I wouldn’t spend a broadcast doing this, folks
But he’s been here so many times
And because of that
He has the responsibility to address these differences
And possibly he would like to ask him the questions yourself
Or possibly Alan may call
I don’t know
I would rather not have a private conversation
I would like to do it on the air
That may not happen
And I won’t be spending another broadcast like this
I want you to know that
We’ll get on to other things
We’re going to take a break here
And we’ll be right back
You stay with us, folks
Alright, we’re back here folks
So that was one of the, to me, the very important inconsistencies
That I think would be wonderful if it was explained
How everybody doesn’t have spirit
We have to call spirit to us
And sometimes spirit doesn’t come
And then on the other hand
To say that within every individual
Is a spiritual force
That was the message
That was the message of love and hopefulness
Not hopelessness
And there was another statement that was made
That regarding reincarnation
That we only get ten times, ten lifetimes
That was, he said, that was an ancient
From an ancient religion I don’t know
This was a discussion we had on the air
In fact it was just a prayer
To our having our two and a half year hiatus
He said for those who are waking up right now
It’s too late
And to say that to people
Who admire and respect and believe
The person that they’re listening to
And the fact that there is such wisdom
And there is such a vast memory bank
Full of ancient history that has been given us
People take it seriously
That causes confusion
When we were on our last broadcast
I thought what he said was so
When he was talking about people stepping out of the system
And the first step that’s taken out of that system
Is the beginning
And that’s when the spiritual side begins to develop
What I would like you to do is keep that in your mind
Keep that in your mind
That within every single one of us
Is the spiritual force
That literally can overcome this world
As Jesus said, ye are the light of the world
Ye are the light of the world
You keep that in your mind
Because I know that for the most part
You’ll continue to listen to Alan
But you keep that in your mind
It’s never too late
No, I take that back
I can’t say that
Any more than Alan can say
We only have ten lifetimes
It is my belief
Not a knowing, it is my belief
Like a knowing
That when we begin questioning
And we begin seeking truth
Is when we begin
And the journey back home, if you would
Into spiritual consciousness
I have no doubts of that in my mind, folks
And maybe we don’t get
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of time
Maybe if we don’t learn our lessons
And lessons are presented to us
Over and over and over again
And we choose
We choose to ignore it
We choose to ignore that still small voice within us
Because we always know every time
That we do something that isn’t okay
We know it
I’m not talking religious
Like if you don’t go to church on Sunday
You’re going to hell
Or if you happen to eat meat on Sunday
Or if you eat shellfish or whatever
I’m not talking religious things
I’m talking about, as Jesus told us
When they ask him, what is the greatest commandment?
He didn’t say, thou shalt not, thou shalt not, thou shalt not
He said, love your father with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength
And love your neighbor as yourself
That is the greatest commandment
And both are the same
And we all know each and every one of us
Every time we do something that isn’t okay
That is mean or petty or vindictive
Or revengeful
If it isn’t loving
If it isn’t kind or compassionate
We’re stepping off the path
And we know it
And when we choose to ignore that
Over and over and over again
Maybe it happens
Maybe the energy dissipates back into the ethers
I don’t know
When I brought up this conversation that I read to you earlier
On that one particular broadcast
He said that that was meant for one person
And I reminded him that he had said it before
To a huge audience of fundamentalist Christians, actually
A different listening audience than we have today
Because we’ve had many, many conversations about the religions
And Alan said that everybody isn’t ready for it
Well, folks, to withhold spiritual truth
Because somebody might not be ready for it
It’s an inconsistency
The truth is written in our hearts
And we know the truth when we hear it
But everybody isn’t ready for it
That was only meant for one person, I was told
And he said that we shouldn’t talk against people’s religions
Because it’ll push them away
Or I forget which word was used
Well, Alan and I have spent dozens and dozens of hours
Discussing religions and how religions are man-made
And exposing the lives of religion
And suddenly, on that particular night
We’re not supposed to say anything
I didn’t say anything, by the way, against somebody’s religion
I read a very beautiful passage of a conversation
Of words that Alan spoke to our friend Effie
And that he had spoken on the air before
But that particular night, I believe, as I said, it was May 24th
This year, it was only meant for one person
Everybody isn’t ready for it
And if Alan, he said that he talks with people on a one-to-one basis
I said that you can’t talk to everybody, Alan
My concern, my concern
Is each and every person who’s listening to this broadcast
Takes from it something that is uplifting
And no, I’m not a cheerleader for this world
But to leave this broadcast so downcast
That I’ve had mail from people and emails from people
Okay, what are we supposed to do? Sounds to me like this is a done deal
We’re supposed to just roll over and play dead? No
And we do that, which we’re led to do from within us
But I was told that he talks one-on-one to people
And when I said you can’t talk to everybody
I wanted our listeners who are ready for this to hear it
Then the comment was made that you can’t say things
Against people’s religion
And when I said you can’t talk to everybody
He said I’ve talked to hundreds
I said, but that isn’t everybody, Alan
And there was dissension there
People called me and said he was miffed at you this evening
I regret that, folks
But to sit and say nothing
When comments are made that are an exact opposition
To what has been said before
That nullifies the truth is what it does
And given that this is a Sweet Liberty broadcast
Hosted by Jackie Patru
And that I opened the doors
Back in 1998 for that message to get out
Then I owe to you some explanation here
As to what the quote impasse is
It isn’t that I’m angry because Alan doesn’t believe
In what I do, as a matter of fact
Very much we’re on the same page
And when this message began to come out
More and more and more
Everybody doesn’t have a spirit
And then we’re talking about…
So I never did understand this
And I asked the question about it
Those who have been cast here
I cast down
I asked where they cast down from
Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within us
Are they from up there in the sky somewhere in the clouds?
We cannot be cast away from our Creator
Because we’re one with our Creator
We can choose to ignore that
Or maybe we don’t know it
But if it’s presented and we choose to ignore it
It doesn’t change anything
It doesn’t make it not so
What it means is that in our mind
If we deny it
And turn our backs and say
That isn’t so, there is no God
Or whatever
Then if as it isn’t
But it doesn’t change anything
I cannot be cast away from my Creator
I cannot cast my Creator from me
Because I am one with my Creator
As you and each and every one of us are
It is choices we make
Choices we make
If we have the opportunity to make the choice
If we ever come out of the lies of the religions
And this next that I want to share with you
I had a gentleman call me and tell me about this
I had gotten all about it
And I actually had it played for you
Last Wednesday
Because I wasn’t going to be on the air
This was the broadcast that Alan and I did
In August of 1931
2004
And it was replayed
In our archives
On November the 2nd
We were talking about
The different colors
Of man, etc, etc
And talking about a white race
And I said
He was talking, we were talking about
The red-haired
The red-haired pharaohs
And people in China that they found red-headed
And they were white
I said this sounds like a white race Alan
And he said it is
He says yeah but I said well is it
He said well it is definitely a white race
And now listen
He said it goes back
Into the legends of a super white race
That were almost albino in the beginning
And that goes back
To the ancient mystery religions
The ancient mystery religions
Of the ones who were cast here
To the earth
And the first bodies they created for themselves
Were basically pure albino
So what we’re getting here
I thought at that time
That he was explaining
What the ancient mystery religion belief was
And then he went into the Old Testament
The different, what they called them
Horites and etc
He said there’s no doubt
That the priesthood knew
Things did not begin with the Hebrews
You knew that, you know that
The world has been here much much much longer
It’s been through many empires that are lost in time
And lost in history
There have been many bids
By the evil doers
You might call them on the planet
To take the whole world
Into their own control
And under their own control
For complete and total control
As you see happening today
There’s no argument there is there
But he says that something
The real creator
Always steps in at the grand finale
And seems to make him low again
And then they go back into hiding
They go back to the mystery religions
Because they’re hunted
And I ask is this their history
As they tell it
This is their history, yeah
When you say the real creator steps in
That’s as though saying our creator
Actively gets involved in what’s going on
That’s beyond my ability to comprehend
He says well long before the so called
Mystery religions
It was said that everyone on earth
The natural people who lived here
Could converse freely on a one to one basis
With the creator
There was no priesthood
And eventually over a period of time
This creator left the world
Running like a clock
Left the world
That’s like our creator comes and goes
And it sounds to me like our creator is a man
I’m not saying that our creator could not manifest
Into anything
But think about this folks our creator is
Within each and everything in this physical realm
There is a consciousness
In all things
A consciousness in the plants and the trees
In the animals
In the fish and the birds
There is a consciousness
And that consciousness is of creator
Because creator is
All
In which we live and move
And breathe and have our being
Our creator cannot come and go
And this is what we were told
That it goes back to the ancient mystery religions
And he said
They claimed that there was a war
Between these other beings and the creator
And these beings were cast here
Now he said
A few paragraphs before this
Or a few minutes before this
That the ancient mystery religion
Religion is the one that teaches
That there were evil doers who were cast here
And of course Alan has told us
And exposed and verified and confirmed
Religions were made by man
Ancient mystery religion
I don’t care what religion it was
Religions are made by man people
But anyway
Those who were cast here
Started the whole ball rolling
Of trying to conquer everything
Through the use of science
To control everything in the whole world
And they’ve tried at least seven times
According to the Brahmins
The Brahmin religion
So we’re talking about religions here
We’re talking about beliefs
And when I said
And then he said that the secret is
That the creator himself
Put his faith into the lives of some people
During that period
In other words
If there’s something worth saving here
Or changing
He will come back and change it
I said now this sounds like
Now are you saying this is their story?
And he said no
This was written about in religions
Pre-existing the Hebrews
So what I’m getting here
Is that this is the story
It’s a story
And it’s from ancient religions
Those who were cast here
And the creator
Left the world
We may as well be talking about Jehovah
The God Jehovah
Of the Old Testament
That Alan mentioned was Lucifer
I wouldn’t disagree with that
Not sure exactly
What Lucifer
Represents
Or is meant to represent
Maybe the Lord of this world
I’m not talking
When I talk about creator
I’m talking about the source
Of all that is
And there’s the difference
In spiritual truth
And talking about ancient religions
Belief folks
And maybe I’ve said enough on this
For you to at least consider
As much as
As you appreciate
And I’ve appreciated Alan
Alan and I have become friends
Well, in a sense maybe
I thought we were friends
And I do regret
That this has happened
Although maybe
This was meant to happen
When it did as it did
Because I can’t
Talk about
I don’t want to talk about
This material world
And those cast here
And people taking over this world
We have to talk about
The truth of our history here
And the truth of this system
And you can go and listen to
Hundreds of hours about that
When we’re talking spiritual issues
I would prefer not to bring
The stories of the religion
Of the Brahmins
Of the Hebrews
The ancient mystery religions
And refer to it as though
It’s a spiritual truth
And of course it is up for you to discern
And that would mean asking
Asking for discernment
The answers are within us
All of the answers
And just be discerning
And know that everything I say
Is not truth
I don’t claim to have all the truth
But begin to go within
And we have talked about this
Alan had discussed this
Begin to go within
To be, to sit quietly
To find quiet time
And to begin seeking
I believe that the majority of you
Who are listening to this broadcast
And I don’t get the same kind of calls
That Alan does
You know, the people who call
That are ready to go off the edge
And off the deep end
And go into psychiatrists
That have to be programmed
And reprogrammed
I get calls from those of you
Who want to talk
Who ask questions
I can only share with you
The level of my understanding
And my own personal experiences
And I know that’s been
Invalidated in a sense
That the trouble with sharing
Your own experiences
Is that nobody can relate to them
I understand that
We have to have our own
Although I can speak
From personal experiences
That I’ve had
I know that the universe is benevolent
And I know that we are
Beloved
And holy and precious
Children of our creator
We don’t act that way
All the time, do we?
We have the potential
Let me put it that way
We were created that way
We were created that way
Like a perfect symphony
Written
Maybe we need to learn
How to play
The notes of that symphony
And then we will be
We will be
Being what we truly are
As children of God
Children of creator
I don’t like that word
We’re almost out of time here
I was wishing tonight
That I was set up to take your calls
I took the phone away
From the broadcast desk
When I went off the air
And I unplugged some things
I don’t know how to plug everything back in
And there’s a possibility
That maybe I’ll get it hooked back up again
So that I can take your calls
That would be fun
I would love to talk with you and hear from you
And I can’t tell you today
What we’ll be doing next week
Because I don’t know
As I told you this evening
That I would rather
Not have had
This conversation tonight
I would have rather had it with Alan
I almost feel like I’m talking behind his back
Although I’m not
Because I know he’s listening
And
And that is the way
I would have hoped it could have been
And it wasn’t
So it doesn’t mean you’ll never hear Alan
What again, does it, folks?
Because he’s doing his own
In fact, as I mentioned earlier
At least tonight
He said that tonight
His show tonight would be
Posted at 9.30
Maybe he will
Reconsider that
And either do his at 8 o’clock or 10 o’clock
So you don’t have to make a choice
It doesn’t matter to me
I’ve never advertised this broadcast
I have over 400 people
On my email list
And I never once
Sent out an email that I recall
I might have once or twice
But I always felt in my mind
That anybody who was listening to Sweet Liberty
Was meant to be listening to Sweet Liberty
And that you would find it
If there was a message here for you
One person told me
They only listened to Sweet Liberty
To hear Alan What
That’s okay
And you can hear Alan What
Because he’s doing his own now
And
We’re not quite out of time
And I feel like I’m out of words here
And if I had a song to sing to you
I would not sing to you
Not sing to you
Play for you
We just have our one-minute warning
Here
There are probably things
That I wanted to say
Or that I wanted to say in a different way
If I think of it
I’ll make a note
And maybe bring it up
But don’t expect that
Another broadcast will be spent
On this issue
And folks, thank you for being here tonight
And I will be back
Next Wednesday night
Barring any unforeseen events
Good night
Now you can enjoy the most delicious
Freshest and healthiest drinking water
Any time
What do you say, Alan?
I think it sounds good.
Oh, good. All right.
We have Alan Watt with us tonight.
Tonight is Wednesday.
It is the 7th of December in the year 2005.
And I guess they’ve been hashing over…
Okay, we’re going to have to get past grandfather’s time here.
I guess they’ve been hashing over Pearl Harbor,
and probably I haven’t been listening to the news,
but probably comparing it with 9-1-1,
because that’s what Henry Kissinger said,
probably within hours of 9-1-1,
of the Holocaust in New York.
They brought him out of a meeting.
He was in some other country,
and they brought him out of a meeting
and asked him what he thought about it.
And he said that it was the same thing that happened
similar to Pearl Harbor,
and it needs to be treated the way we treated Pearl Harbor.
And we knew, of course, immediately when he said that,
he was talking about another war.
I want to share our spiritual message tonight, folks.
I got this in the mail from Jean.
Listen to this real closely, okay?
One evening, an old Cherokee told his grandson
about a battle that goes on inside people.
He said,
my son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.
One is evil.
It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance,
self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies,
false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is good.
It is a joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness,
benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.
And the grandson thought about it for a minute.
And then he asked his grandfather,
well, which wolf wins, grandfather?
The old Cherokee simply replied, the one you feed.
And I think that is perfect.
Alan, thank you for being here with us tonight.
Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Did you like that?
Yeah, I think the grandfather would have to explain it
a few times for the young boy to remember it all.
Yeah, I know.
I know, but I thought that was really a good way to put it, Alan.
So, what’s new and what do you want to talk about this evening?
I think, well, rather than talk about the general news,
just our downloading for the time being,
it’s best to look at how we’ve arrived where we are at this very point
and where it’s gone from here.
And what’s amazing me is how flippant so many people are today
when it comes to their own privacy.
You say privacy, our word is privacy, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so, they’re so used to using their convenience cards.
They have different names for them at shops and stores
and debit cards for all their shopping and so on.
And knowing that all of this stuff is being recorded
on databases all over the planet, basically.
And so, people know, including governments, of course,
which is the main…
And I tell that the real government is the one that we don’t vote in.
The one that runs all the real supercomputers and so on
and keeps all the data on everyone.
All that stuff is filed away.
So, they have profiles on all your habits, your purchases,
that kind of thing.
And then people are going on the Internet
and putting everything on email.
And they don’t seem to mind.
That’s what’s surprising to me.
I mean, I can remember the days when people would have an uproar
about some governmental intrusion into privacy.
And today, it’s almost like it’s the normal thing
so they don’t mind so much.
Well, they did it in spite and challenge.
You know, I mean…
They definitely have conditioned the public
that it’s an open book and everybody’s got to have an open book
and there’s no such thing as your own personal space
where you can roam around in your own little area.
This is the age when they wrote in revelations
that everything that was hidden would be screened from the rooftops.
In a sense, they are.
They’re opening everybody’s books.
And of course, they’re keeping their own.
The real controllers are keeping their own books closed to the public
but they expect the public to be quite open to them.
And the public are acquiescing to this by silence
and by using all of these devices
which are losing all their freedoms by using them.
It’s amazing to me how complacent they are about it all.
It stings me, to be honest.
Well, the people who know that it’s going on…
Whenever I have a phone conversation with anybody
I just assume that the conversations are being at least taped.
And I’ve certainly had enough evidence of that.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, with a personal situation.
It isn’t that it doesn’t bother me.
Sometimes I talk to them and say,
I hope that our listeners are learning something, whatever.
But I think what it is, Alan,
is that people get a sense of what the hell are you going to do about it.
You know, you talk to your…
What I always remember is so many books were published
around the 50s and 60s and 70s about the agenda
by people involved in the agenda such as Arthur Kessler
who wrote about his part for the United Nations working in the think tanks
where he said his job was to find ways to target specific parts of the brain
chemically and the part that he was particularly interested in
was that part which creates individualism.
And he said this will be successful and the proof will be shown
when the public’s ability for self-preservation is gone.
Is he the one that wrote The Ghost and the Machine?
That’s right, yeah.
He also wrote The Thirteenth Tribe.
He did and lots of other books.
Okay, the thing that I wonder about given that he’s one of theirs
is even how accurate is his Thirteenth Tribe book.
I don’t know, he seems very…
Well, he admitted that he worked for Lenin.
He was an officer in the Russian Army and he was put in charge.
He admits quite openly and proudly almost that he was put in charge
of part of the extermination of the Ukrainians when he starved them to death,
millions of them.
Millions, yes.
And he admitted that he at the time, because he was full of the communist doctrine,
believed that it had to be so because of historical necessity.
That’s how they phrase this type of thing.
Historical necessity.
You mean the history that they’re making?
That’s right.
The history that they’re making.
That reminds me of that statement that was made by an undisclosed advisor
of George Bush, remember?
Yeah.
Okay, will you share that with our listeners?
Oh, yeah, I think it was in the Boston Globe.
Oh, it was all over the place, Alan, because when you told me you had heard it on the news,
I did a search just for the one phrase, we are an empire now.
Yeah, it says we are an empire now and this is a senior advisor to Bush.
Now these guys are more important than the front men that we see on television.
Right.
But they’re unelected and someone trains them.
Non-elected.
It says we are an empire now and when we act, we create our own reality.
While you are studying that reality, judiciously as you will, we like to, again,
creating other new realities which you can study too.
We’ll act again.
Your history is actors and you, all of you, will believe just to study what we do.
And so in other words, this is what you can hear on the shortwave.
All they’re doing is studying and discussing what we think the front men are doing.
Right, exactly.
Yeah.
It’s all the debates going on about who’s doing what, what legislators, what congressmen
or senators are voting a certain way.
Yeah.
It’s amazing to me the information that gets sent around by people that I feel really
know better or at least…
Some people, yeah.
And I think part of the problem is we’ve been given superheroes, like Albert Pike said,
whenever the public need leaders, we supply them and they make them into superheroes
so they must have more financial backing and have more access to information than anyone
else.
And when they see what we know, we follow them.
And, of course, even the shortwave has made sure of that.
And all they do, really, is discuss what they think the politicians are doing, what they’re
saying, and it’s just an act.
It’s all a front.
It’s not the real government by any means.
And, in fact, Margaret Thatcher made a reference to that when she did the Massey Hall lecture
in Canada about 1991.
And the title of the lecture was the New World Order.
And most of the members who went there were from the CFR and Royal Institute of International
Affairs.
And she said all of us, all retired presidents and prime ministers of the British Commonwealth,
have formed a super government.
And she said that we now know each other.
We’ve been in politics long enough.
We know all the leaders of state.
And she says we are another unelected government working behind the scenes.
And that’s a fact.
That’s what they do.
They never retire.
They never retire.
And there’s a few generations of them.
So that’s the reality of things.
The downloading nonsense that we’re given on a daily basis is just a front to keep us chatting about nonsense.
Okay, so what should we chat about?
Well, that’s what I’m saying, getting back to Kessler.
Kessler was so proud of his part, working for Lenin.
And somehow, of course, showing you that it’s all a farce, even the Cold War, he came straight
over from Communist Russia as a Russian officer and became a professor at New York.
And started teaching at New York at university there.
And then he started working for the United Nations.
This is during the Cold War.
And lo and behold, he comes from exterminating one bunch of people to finding ways
and working with scientists for the United Nations in New York
of ways of lobotomizing the general population to make them more passive and easily controlled.
And they said that was the first symptom of the fact it’d been successful,
is when their ability for self-preservation is gone.
And getting back to the very beginning of what we’re talking about,
when there’s no righteous indignation, if no antennas go up, as you’re being corralled,
then that part of your brain that is your self-preservation area has literally been destroyed.
That’s the symptom of it.
So as I listen to you and listen as though I’m a listener of our conversation,
then my question is, well, what do you suggest that people do?
Well, for those where it’s already been destroyed, I don’t think there’s any backup system to restore it.
Well, yeah, restore. There’s nothing to restore.
There’s nothing to restore.
So all you can really do is work on those who know.
And for the younger people who’ve been brought up with this cashless stuff,
they’ve never used money in their life.
And to them, it’s quite normal, just pulling it out even for a candy bar, pulling out their card.
And they’ve been brought up with computers, and they know everything’s being monitored.
So they’re the real targets of it all.
So to speak to those, I hope they still have some righteous indignation
and start to change their ways.
Because when they outlay out their whole life as an open book for tyrannical forces to monitor and master them,
then they should really be worried, you know, of the kind of future they’re going to be in.
Are you talking about people who use the Internet for research and send emails or information out?
Everything. They’re banking on it, everything.
Thank you. Yeah. In other words, you’re talking about more the people who are using it for all of those business
processes.
Yeah. I mean, Brzezinski talked about the Internet before it was given to the public.
And he said that, and this was back in the 60s, and he said,
a form of communication, international communication will be given to the public.
He said that we’ll totally revolutionize our whole way of doing things.
And he said this will create a common culture amongst the public who will use it and adapt to it.
He said that in reality, it will give more control to the new governmental system coming into view.
So he was talking about the Internet. It had other functions pre-planned into it.
They knew how the public would respond to it and adapt so quickly because nothing on the planet is more adaptable
than man.
And Plato said that thousands of years ago, so they knew that they noticed that.
And sure enough, it’s so convenient, and that’s how everything is sold to the public.
Everything is so convenient, it would become lazy.
And the next thing you know, you’re putting all your information out there to be garnished by the ones who are
monitoring all of this.
This is a world data recovery system. That’s what it all is.
Yeah, you know, there are a few things that people can do, some things.
And I know that there’s a lot more creativity out there than even that I’m going to mention here.
But for example, using a debit card.
A lot of people use debit cards. Every single purchase that they make is known.
And it builds their dossier. And for me, it’s a principle that what I do is any of my bills that are public anyway,
you know, like the light bills, electric, you know, and gas and phone, I go ahead and write a check for it.
But I take cash out of my checking account and all of my groceries and any shopping that I have to do,
hardware, drugstore, whatever, at the health food store, I use cash because there’s no trails that you’re leaving.
And that’s just one little thing, Alan, but it’s something.
Yeah, and we’ve got to fight for it. You see, all the bigger things have already been taken from us, in a sense.
So we’ve got to start taking it back little by little.
Little by little, yes.
We have to regain our own privacy because it’s a natural instinct to have that type of privacy.
It’s a survival mechanism. And if it’s not functioning, then something’s wrong with the person.
They should realize that something is wrong with them.
Going back even further, we can go back to the 1950s, where you remember the next million years by Charles Dalton
Darwin?
Yep.
The physicist?
Yep.
And grandson of Charles.
And he said, he said, we are now in the process of creating a new, he says, there have always been generations of slaves,
he said.
Every empire is founded on slavery.
And he says, we are now in the process of creating a new, more sophisticated form of slavery.
And you see, this is what all of this is about.
It’s total enslavement by a different means, where simply by changing the perception of what is happening, we lose the
actual fact of what is happening.
And the fact is, everyone is being corralled into a system where every purchase, every move they make, everything they
say will be monitored under many guises for the good of all, etc.
But it’s always 1984.
They’re going to bring us all to a place where we must all be politically correct, which will constantly be updated all the
time, and things added to it, just like the Soviet system.
And we’ll be in a prison within our own minds, if that is even left alone.
I remember, or was it Brave New World? In 1984, they had the Poles, with the Poles.
And those people evidently weren’t every…
There’s a plea on the proletariat.
Okay, but these people, they seem to live less restricted than those who were in the system.
In other words, they didn’t have the microphones and cameras all over the place, and people seeing, watching everything
they were doing.
They left them alone, for the most part.
And in Brave New World, they had what they called the savages, that didn’t live in the system.
And remember, a woman was having a baby, and somebody in the system said,
you mean she is actually, because the babies were what, test tube babies, what do you call them?
Oh yeah, they were artificially…
Yeah, but the woman was shocked because that savage was carrying her child.
Well, Alan, these books portray a future that they foresee, you know, according to their plan.
So do you think that they foresee that there will always be a segment of the population that will not succumb, and they
will just leave them alone?
I think, it’s a yes and a no there, that they’re doing all they can to make it impossible, little by little, for individuals to opt
in any other direction, but to join them.
That’s what they’re doing at the moment.
Well, there are still people that are home gardening.
You see, ultimately, they will bring in the cashless society completely.
They might leave some outlets for using cash, but gradually, even wither them down until you have no option.
They don’t like to forbid things, they simply make it almost impossible to take any alternative.
That’s generally what they do.
Well, and at the moment, they still have the option.
Yeah, well, they’re using computers, and there are computer hackers.
Alan, their program could be destroyed.
I think it’s important for us to see what they’re seeing in the future and what they’re planning for, but also to keep in
mind that this plan has been underway for millennia, and they have never succeeded.
And I think it’s important for us to keep this in our minds that just because it’s what they have planned for us doesn’t
mean it’s going to happen.
Yeah, but it also means that people have to take what action they can.
That’s right.
And what’s what is for the archival of doing within the present system to take back the little freedoms they’ve already
given away.
Like growing your own food.
One thing.
You know, stop doing your banking on the Internet.
Because I kid you not, they’ve already got a refrigerator out that you can hook up to the Internet, and it literally takes the
barcodes of everything you put inside that fridge.
Oh, give me a break.
I think it will warn you when you’re low on something and it has the capacity to order all that stuff from the store.
Now you realize that…
So you mean then you walk in the grocery store and your groceries are waiting for you?
That’s right.
And I’ll tell you, if they ever raid your home, and I mean this, one day they’ll raid your home, and they find a tin of
beans there that was not on your list.
You haven’t bought it.
You’re frigid and order it.
They want to know where you got that.
Who gave this to you?
Because someone’s using up the rations that was meant for them.
I are that, or there’s an underground supply of black market.
And this is all scheduled to come down one day.
For our listeners that may be new listeners, in the website, in our website at www.sweetliberty.org,
if you go into shadow government, I think it’s in shadow government,
you’ll see an item titled, The New Order of Barbarians.
Or you could put it in the search engine.
And what Alan is talking about was discussed back in 1968 with a group of pediatric physicians in Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania.
And Alan, there’s so much happening today that takes me back to what Dr. Gaye told these doctors at that meeting.
And the one thing that right now really is popping out, just because I’m thinking about it,
he said the way that they would separate the extended family would be that they would begin to transfer people in large
corporations to different states.
And this would cause problems because if the spouse had a real good job and they needed both of the incomes,
then one of them wouldn’t be able, the one would have to travel and commute by air.
And he said initially it will make it very easy, it’ll be very easy to travel, so they won’t feel so separated.
But he said eventually air travel is going to become more and more and more difficult.
And look at it today Alan.
And then you see behind that there’s so much more going on.
The extended family includes aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents.
And the less that the people have of the family unit, the more they’ve lost really.
And I want to say this, I know you know this, but I don’t think I’ve mentioned this on the air.
I believe that it’s important for children to spend time with their grandparents.
And maybe that’s because I’m a grandparent.
And I know that I have so much to offer the children, but they don’t want that connection.
And when we discovered this, it was Effie when she was going to make a visit here.
She was senior and she was going to get the senior discount.
And they said well her return had to be within 30 days or she couldn’t get the senior discount.
And when Effie told me that I said Effie why?
What do they care? How long you stay on a visit?
And I said you know what I think? Because maybe you’re going to visit your family.
And if they can shorten your stay by restricting the time by the discount.
And she called every other airline and every single one of them had the policy, Alan.
Every single one of them.
These are subtle, very subtle little things.
But once that we have a broader picture of what they’re up to, you begin to see.
Everything they do has a multiple, they kill a lot of birds with one stone.
Sure they do, yeah.
And it’s true enough when you see something that’s across the board the same format,
you know it has to be arranged at the top.
Yep.
And that all those companies where somebody was present at meetings to get all that agenda
put into them and format it and then implement it.
Yeah.
They didn’t all arrive at the same conclusion independently.
Right, exactly.
Well and another example of that is the fact that no insurance company will cover their customers for Bud.
So it has to be the U.S. government, FEMA flood insurance.
Yes.
That’s the national flood insurance.
That’s what it is.
And you look at that and you say, well, so the insurance companies quit insuring people
and it forces the issue.
Same thing, Alan, with the Malcom filling in people.
Okay.
It’s got, for any of our listeners that might not know, there’s mercury and it’s constantly
drifting into the brain.
Well now the insurance companies, at least we got a letter from our dentist that the insurance
companies would not pay for the alternatives that they will only pay for Malcom fillings.
So if you’re going to get fillings when you go to his office, you have to be ready to
pay out of your pocket.
It’s a conspiracy, Alan.
We have to take a break here.
I did hear the, I think.
Yep.
Okay.
So ladies and gentlemen, stay with us here with Alan Watt and we’ll be back with you.
I’m not hearing any music.
Maybe.
Oh.
Okay.
Thank you.
Take the Wednesday broadcast on a regular basis, and I told them today that I would do so.
And unless anything comes up, I’ll be with you on Wednesday nights, and of course Darren
on Monday and Tuesday nights, so it is good to be back with you.
I feel like a guest on this broadcast tonight, and I find that interesting that I feel that
way.
But of course Darren is the one that is the host, has been the host since we went off the
short way then, the Internet, since I did, on the 12th of August.
I wanted to say, I want to say, I’m going to say good morning to Xavier, if he’s listening.
Xavier is one of our listeners in England.
He lives in London, and he had told me that we have no idea how many listeners that we
have over there in England.
And Alan had mentioned this too.
We get calls from, he’s gotten calls from people in Australia, and for all of our listeners
who are not in the U.S. of A, thank you for being with us.
And I’ll tell you Alan, what really amazes me about Xavier, and it gives me, he’s the
kind of people that give me hope.
He’s 30 years old, and he has been in the system, and he has awakened Alan.
And you know, are you there?
Yeah.
Okay.
You said a long time ago, but I’ve never forgotten it, that it doesn’t, it isn’t going to take
too many people waking up to this, to have the system collapse, because there aren’t
too many of them, and it appears that in every generation there are those holdouts, those
people who are awake, or who are awake to me.
And that’s, I hold on to that, knowing that with God, with Creator, all things are possible.
Yeah, well, it’s a matter of having those people in communication, of some means or
other, with each other, because often you know, when the people are not…
Alan, excuse me.
Yeah?
Your voice isn’t as loud as it was before.
Are you not on a different phone or anything, are you?
No.
Okay.
Now, when the people are in a stupor, they’re caused by the system, and they’re downloading,
as I call it.
The thinking processes are shaped for them in such a way that they get sort of bound up,
almost like string tied around them.
Sometimes they just need somebody who understands things and can put simple little statements
here that undoes all of this binding that we have.
Yes.
And those people have a gift you see to do so.
Yes, I know that.
I hear that in our conversations when I’m talking with Sabier, and he tries to share
with his friends, and he runs into the same walls that we all run into, but little by
little, he will meet people in his age group who are awake, and that’s what’s been their
nemesis all these years.
Alan, in The Ghost in the Machine, was it the person’s soul?
What was he referring to as The Ghost in the Machine?
Well, The Ghost in the Machine in this respect is the animating life force, which is your
individuality.
You are the distinct individual entity as opposed to everyone else.
Well, maybe that would be the soul then.
Yeah, everything, yeah.
They call it the animating principle.
Well, that’s fine.
So in that sense, you see, supposedly, in the occult, it is the animating principle.
Right.
So it’s what makes you a distinct, unique you as opposed to everyone else.
Right.
And what they said they would do, even at the Loyola meeting they had for the World Science
Meeting at Loyola University, was to do with brain chipping.
They said once this has occurred, there’ll be no such thing as individuality.
That’s what they’re trying to destroy.
Yeah.
And as I said to you a long, long time ago, when we were talking about this, the one
thing that they do not take into account is the spiritual nature of man.
Well, they do actually.
Hello?
I’m here.
Yeah, they do.
That’s why they give us so many things that they call spiritual to Saka Zen, and it’s
always their agenda.
So they know that man is always seeking, always seeking.
So they tend to supply the…
Well, you’re talking about the religions.
The religions, even the New Age religion.
I mean, at one time you could walk into major bookstores and you would see the usual standard
religions there.
A big aisle, now it’s a tiny little aisle for standard religions, and massive, a massive
aisle or maybe more for all the New Age groups out there.
Oh, but isn’t it amazing how much truth is in those New Age materials, Alan?
Well, that’s what they give to suck you in, is the twist that twists your mind.
Right.
And that’s the purpose of them.
They’re not put out there to help you.
Right.
They’re put out there by exposing, which is an obvious truth.
That’s why you say, gee, I agree with this, and I agree with that.
They know the truth, since they’ve given us a fake reality for a long time.
They know what we want to hear, and they say it.
But then they bring in the twists, of course.
And before you know it, you’re simply what you’ve walked into another maze of endless
circles within circles.
And so once again, you’ve just been disabled, you might think.
Yeah.
You know, something I’ve noticed about these New Age books, with all the truth that they
do present in them, they always talk about the New World Order.
But it’s going to be benevolent, and it’s going to be peace in the world.
And that’s why so many people, the New World Order to them, because I can remember back
in 1991, when Poppy Bush kept saying the New World Order and the World Order a thousand
times, I thought, oh my God, they’re actually saying it out loud now.
And I started talking to people, associates and friends, and just asking them, have you
heard him talk about the New World Order?
Yeah?
What does it mean to you?
Well, that means that we’re all going to hold hands around the world, and that there’s going to be world peace.
So to them, the New World Order is a wonderful thing.
Yeah.
That’s right.
And that’s how they’re spinning it.
Up?
In a sense, if they were successful, they would have their thousand years of peace, because
a master of people will be unable to think for themselves.
That’s what they call peace.
Yeah.
Absence of resistance to their program.
Yeah.
To their system.
That is their, yeah, their definition of peace.
Hi, Jackie.
Yes.
Alan’s voice is much, much lower.
It is.
So if we could get him to speak louder or something, I don’t know.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thanks, Nicholas.
Alan.
Yeah?
Oh, what a roll.
Talk again.
Okay.
I should really talk about the books for sale.
But suddenly your voice is right up there again.
Oh.
Well, I guess someone’s playing with it.
I think so.
I think so.
Well, I do get this all the time, you know.
Yes.
Because your voice had faded, and now it’s right back there again.
Thank you, Nicholas.
Okay.
Yeah, I should mention these three books.
Yes.
Because the last couple of shows, I haven’t mentioned them.
Yes, you should.
So along this format of trying to…
The first two books are about the Masonic codes and so on,
that even the biggies haven’t got in the books.
They’re trying to take over by putting out their own books.
But I go through the history of Masonry, including the language that we use
to solve encoded.
I was created that way.
And the third one, I go through the history of the money system,
which is the beginning of this particular system,
starting thousands of years ago,
and how they took countries over through debt and hired armies
and over through other countries that wouldn’t come in.
So these books are called Cutting Through,
and there’s three of them, one, two, and three.
They’re $25 each.
Now, Alan.
Yeah?
Well, you’re talking.
Pretend that you’re writing this down.
In fact, I do as I write it down as I’m talking,
and then people will be able to get it.
Yes.
So it’s cutting through one, two, and three,
and they’re $25 each.
And if you want them to send an international postal order
from your post office, and it must be international,
you can do Alan Watt, which is W-A-T-T.
And it’s A-L-A-N.
Yep.
And it’s site S-I-T-E-4-1,
box four S-Stare,
which is like Fred S-Stare with an E at the beginning,
E-S-T-A-I-R-E,
Ontario,
and the postal code is P for Peter,
three E for Elizabeth,
four N for Nora,
one.
So that’s site 41,
box four S-Stare,
Ontario,
P for Peter,
three E for Elizabeth,
four N for Nora,
one.
And if there’s any questions even on anything,
you can give me a call.
And my phone number is 705-695-0416.
And I’ll try and answer any questions that people have.
As long as not pumping me for information
to write their own books with, because I get a lot of that.
Well, you know what just occurred to me, Alan?
You know, when we used to do this,
when we were on the shortwave,
we had to do this for our shortwave listeners.
All of our listeners tonight are on the internet.
Yeah.
Or the majority of them are half internet.
Some may be listening on satellite,
but they,
your books are advertised in our resources section.
Yeah.
With the entire address and everything.
So folks, if you didn’t write it down
and you’re interested in getting Alan’s books,
and as Alan suggested, also urged actually
that if you’re only going to get one,
get the first one first.
Because they’re written in more or less an order
where the second one plays off the first and et cetera.
And so you can go to the resources section
at our website at sweetliberty.org
and get all the information that Alan just gave you.
And there’s something else,
while we’re kind of doing a commercial here,
I’ve thought about this Alan in conversations with Savier.
Yeah.
He has downloaded all of the broadcasts that are in our archives
and has listened to them.
He’s been in the website,
started right from the beginning in the section,
How Wars Are Made Behind the Scenes,
and reading because everything is in there chronologically.
It’s amazing to me,
but what I got to thinking about,
we’ve had so many broadcasts together.
So much information that you’ve presented to our listeners.
And Nicholas at WFAR, First Amendment Radio,
is offering the whole year of 2004 on a CD,
a desk for $120.
And when I think about that,
what a wonderful, because we do have new listeners.
And we have covered so much Alan actually in several years,
but for somebody to be able to have 150 hours,
which I figured that’s what it figures out to,
for $120, it’s less than a dollar an hour for the broadcast.
And so, folks, if you are new,
if you haven’t been a longtime listener,
I really hope that you will take advantage of the offer.
And if you want to call Nicholas,
I believe the number to contact him is 559-7813773,
or you can contact him at the website,
at First Amendment Radio dot com.
And I just think it’s a wonderful opportunity, don’t you Alan?
Yeah, we should tell the people too that this isn’t for us,
we don’t get money from this.
I think that goes to the providers.
I guess I should talk with Nicholas about this,
because he doesn’t have them archived earlier,
because we’ve been on WFAR for, I don’t know, two or three years.
Time gets away from me, but he has earlier ones.
I’d like to know so that we can let our listeners know
that they can get them.
And soon, 2005 will be available.
I just, I think it’s great.
It’s just, it’s exciting to me to know Alan
that what we’ve talked about and the information
that you have shared with us over all this long time,
that it’s going to be available for other people.
Yeah.
And given that, you know, our shortwave audience
was our really large audience, but it doesn’t matter.
The numbers, I don’t believe are important,
because out of thousands there may be that one gem.
You know what I’m saying?
And I’ve always thought this about Sweet Liberty,
about the broadcast.
I never advertised it.
And I wondered sometimes why I didn’t, because I, you know,
I get emails, I’ll be sure to listen to so-and-so tonight
on such-and-such, and I never did that.
But I always just felt that people who were supposed
to find this broadcast were going to find it.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it isn’t a show.
It’s not a show, no.
Not a show.
And it’s not a program, because we’re not programming.
I remember we’ll call it deprogramming.
Yeah.
It’s a deprogramming program, I don’t know.
E-programming?
Yeah, yeah.
We’d have to get a new word for it, really.
But it certainly is a tutorial-type series.
Yes, it is.
Tutorial?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yes, it is.
And it’s a completely different way of looking at things
from the conditioned way we’ve been trained to perceive things,
see things.
You know, I can remember a long time ago
when I very first got involved in this
and began to wake up to it.
And there’s some things you just know innately.
And I remember driving from Carlinville, Illinois,
where I lived, to St. Louis one weekend
to visit the children.
And oh my God.
Well, no, it wasn’t.
Just one weekend.
Every time I drove in, there was highway repairs being done.
And it was always at the same spot.
And it was at a…
It didn’t even matter if it was in the middle of the afternoon,
it was a place where traffic would jam.
And when I talked to Nicole about it, she goes,
I just don’t understand it, Mom.
What could be taking them so long?
I mean, why are they doing this?
I said, to cause irritation.
And she looked at me like I was nuts.
She says, oh, come on.
And I said, Nicole, it is to cause irritation.
And they are that subtle, aren’t they, Alan?
Oh yes, they are subtle.
Yeah, they are.
But you know what?
Both of my girls today, they know it.
I mean, they see it, how long it takes.
And the traffic that people have to sit in in those cities.
Well, it’s more than just that.
There’s a Masonic function going on here.
Because every city is run Masonically.
And I don’t care what they call the different branches of Freemasonry,
they’re all one.
And every year, the local councils give out their grants
for road repairs and so on, even if they don’t need to be done.
Yeah.
And that’s part of the reason why they keep digging up the same roads
and refilling them and digging them up and refilling them.
It’s jobs for the boys, as it’s called.
It’s payoffs for the contractors who own these companies.
And it keeps their taxation system going as well.
They can always up the taxes and see they need more.
Because I’ve watched the same scenario in every place I’ve lived.
They always have a stretch of road.
They’re always digging it up, filling it in,
digging it up, filling it in.
And it’s an ongoing process.
And it’s all a Masonic con job.
That’s what it is.
It’s government contracts to the higher masons
who own these contracting companies.
And this is the same worldwide.
That’s amazing.
And that’s why whenever these things go up for publication,
the notices, they’ll always say that certain bids
or even the lowest bids will not necessarily be considered.
And you’re darned to them because before it was even published
that they’ve already picked their very high masonic companies
that will get these jobs.
That’s how it works.
That’s how it works.
Jobs for the boys.
And Freemasonry is an incredible make work project.
It’s always on the go.
I wasn’t aware of that aspect of it.
Oh, yeah.
But they actually make jobs for them.
That’s right.
That is right.
The big contractors are all high masons
and there’s big money handed out by governments,
right down to local governments for all these jobs.
And they just, I’d watch the place in Sudbury.
It’s quite near me.
And for the three years,
all they did is tear up the same piece of road right downtown
and tear it up, fill it in, tear it up and fill it in
and tear my kit and then tear it up again.
And it’s just non-stop.
And that’s your high masonic system at work.
That’s what it’s about.
Jobs for the boys.
And it’s probably happening in all the little banana republics,
all the little townships and counties all over this country.
I knew a guy who drove a truck in my old place where I lived.
That was rural as well.
And he was a member of the Orange Lodge.
He was always drunk and he’s never stopped by the police
because he’s a mason, you see.
But he told me, he says,
oh yeah, it’s non-stop.
We’re never, we’re never short of work, he said.
It is guaranteed by the brotherhood.
Guaranteed.
So yeah, I find this from different ones.
And it’s good when they’re drunk because they tell you more, you know.
It’s a movie that Glenn Ford played in.
The Brotherhood.
The Brotherhood of the Bell.
The Brotherhood of the Bell.
Oh, The Brotherhood of the Bell, yes.
And what just occurred to me as you were talking
is they get all, you know, all the jobs
and they’re very successful financially and et cetera, et cetera.
And one of these days, their due bill is called in.
Yes.
And that movie portrayed it perfectly, didn’t it, Alan?
Yeah, it did.
It did.
What they didn’t show you is the kickback system.
And this works from the federal level right down to the local.
For every contract that’s given out there to a high mason,
he must give a kickback to the person who gave him the contract.
Oh, okay.
Well, you know what this is, you know what I’m thinking about right now?
Remember I told you about that stupid sewer system they put in around here?
Yeah.
Well, it isn’t a sewer system.
It is really just a chain of new septic tanks
because there’s no water, it’s not a sewer.
This is in Jackson Center, which the population is probably, oh, jeez, Alan.
Well, Millerton, it would be the Millerton area,
but Russ Draper is the owner of the hardware in Millerton.
I mean, we’re talking a few hundred people, okay?
But they’ve got a hardware and they formed a sewer authority the township did.
And Russ Draper got on as head of the sewer authority
and they shoved the system on people.
It’s costing them $4,000 to connect.
And then they have to pay $50 a month.
That’s per household, yeah.
And Russ Draper, I was just told this today.
Russ Draper, his hardware sold every single septic tank
and every foot of sewer that went in.
He pushed this thing through in the face of terrible opposition.
We have to leave here.
We’ve just had our one-minute warning.
Folks, thanks for being here with us tonight.
And we will see you next Wednesday night.
And of course, Darren will be on Monday and Tuesday
and be sure to tune in to Sweet Liberty and spend time.
Folks, spend time at the website because they’re…
It’s unlike most websites, there’s not a one agenda.
It covers the entire web that we’ve been talking about.
And I think it’s a wonderful place for you to be coming for them.
And Alan, thanks for being with us tonight.
It’s a pleasure.
All right, good night, folks, and God bless you.
Thank you.
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Sweet liberty, sweet liberty is in our hands.
It’s part of the plan, or is it a state of mind?
You’re listening to Jackie Petru and Sweet Liberty, and now here’s your host, Jackie Petru.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.
Today is Wednesday, of course, and it is the 28th of December in the year 2005.
I hope you had a lovely Christmas, if you observe Christmas.
If not, maybe just a family time, a holiday season so far, folks.
I can’t think of anything more important today than spending time with our family and with those that we love,
regardless whether we observe the actual Christmas season or not, because regardless when he was born,
the one we know is Jesus, there was a message, and a message of love that was brought into this world
and a message of truth. Our spiritual message tonight is a part of that.
We’ve done this many times, John, chapter 18.
We’ll start with 34. Jesus was talking to our Pontius Pilate, and Pilate had entered into the judgment hall
and called Jesus and said to him, Are you the king of the Jews?
I don’t know how much truth is in this story, but there still is a message here. Jesus said,
answered, he said, Do you say this thing of yourself, or did others tell it to you about me?
In other words, when Pilate asked him if he was the king of the Jews,
and if I recall, the word Jew actually didn’t even occur in the Bible until sometime in 1600s or whatever.
But anyway, Pilate said, Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priest have delivered you to me.
What have you done? And Jesus answered, he said, My kingdom is not of this world.
If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight that I should not be delivered to the Jews?
But now is my kingdom not from hence? And Pilate said to him, Well, are you a king then?
And Jesus answered, You say that I am a king.
Now listen to this, folks. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I in to the world that I should bear witness unto
the truth.
Everyone that is of the truth hears my voice. I came to bear witness unto the truth.
And we’ve had many, many, many lies wrapped around the truth that was brought by Jesus and by other teachers,
masters, as they call them.
And we’re going to discuss that a bit tonight with Alan Watt, our guest.
And Alan, thank you for being here tonight.
Yes, it’s a pleasure.
Always. Thank you.
When we talked earlier this evening, the one thing that I wanted to bring up, and you said that you believe that most
Christians today realize that the birth of the one that we know of Jesus wasn’t on the 25th of December.
It is the winter solstice.
And what brought this to my mind is that my sister and I were talking earlier, and I was explaining to her, I believe it
was my sister, that the solstice starts on the 23rd and the 23rd, 24th and 25th, allegedly that the days stay the same
length.
And then on the 25th, of course, the days begin to lengthen again. And that is the old story about the God going way
back to Isis.
And I don’t know how many fire back and how many gods they told this story about, that he was buried for three days
and rose from the bed.
And the myth of it is the fact that the days began to lengthen instead of shortening again. Yes?
Yes, it is ancient. And of course the summer solstice is the opposite. You see that begins on the 22nd, I think, of June.
And then it is the same thing with December.
It is generally the 22nd of December. And that is when the sun is furthest from the equator. And it doesn’t go much
further north for those three days as it hangs in the sky.
And that is where the hanging God comes from. And they used to draw it north, south, east and west in the sky. And
they drew it as a cross. So the God hung on the cross as he was crossing the sky.
And so when he was pretty stationary, he didn’t go any further north for those three days. That was the death of the old
God, the old year’s God.
And then when he started moving forward after Christmas, we call it Christmas now, they all cheered and had their
celebration for him. He was born again.
So that is where that came from. But that predated Christianity by many, many thousands of years.
And the story was told in many ages under different religions, wasn’t it, Alan?
Pretty well, every religion. There are different names for this, for the same scenario. You had the same thing with
Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod, and Tammuz, the son.
And they had their Tammuz celebrations as the son was born at that time of year. And then in Egypt, of course, they had
the weeping in midwinter.
The weeping for Osiris, the death of Osiris. And the constellation, of course, was linked to Orion, which also was down
for three days.
And then starts to appear in all its glory at the full constellation for those three days leading up to Christmas.
So it’s the same story over and over again, the death of the son, really. And then the rebirth after three days as it crosses
the sky.
It’s in every religion. And of course, Horus was the son who was reborn, the son of Osiris. So this is the same religion
over and over.
You know, the thought has entered my mind. I can remember when I was a teenager, you know, and going to the
Lutheran church, wondering in my mind,
why did he get himself hung up on that cross? Because he didn’t have to. And I wondered if he really did. I don’t know
the history, the actual history of it.
But I have read, you know, books in it. It puts thoughts into your mind. For example, in the Bible, where, you know, it
says that, you know, this, of course, happened at Easter.
And I was telling you this evening, you know, in the Lutheran church, we did the Nicene Creed. I think the Catholics do
the Apostles Creed.
But ours was the same way. I believe in God, the Father Almighty, and in Jesus Christ, his only son, our Lord, who was
conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, and was dead and buried. And three days he rose again and came
to sit on the right hand of God, the Father Almighty.
Well, you know, that story is just, it’s etched into our minds. Like, it’s just etched into our minds. And I believe, you
know, in the Bible, it talks about how they, you know, when they put him in the tomb, Joseph of Arimathea,
that the guards at the door fell asleep at the entrance. And then when they woke up, the stone was rolled away and he
was gone. One of the books I read suggested that in the story where he said,
We’re told that they put vinegar, you know, in his mouth on the sponge. Is it a possibility that he was given some type of
a sleeping, like, soma or something like that, that they were able to take him down so quickly?
And when the guards fell asleep, if all of this happened at all, Alan, possibly the guards were drugged.
Well, this author has made millions on this, many, many authors. And I think the Bejian Lincoln, the Messianic legacy,
et cetera, they go into all that stuff.
What are your thoughts on that?
I think it’s nothing to do with what it appears to have to do with this. It’s always been an esoteric religion behind the
exoteric.
Uh-huh.
And the exoteric is always given for the public consumption to make them well-behaved in an orderly society so that
they can be controlled by a small few who understand this.
And every age has had religion to keep it in check.
And when you realize that even when they’re bringing in the new age religion, as Michael Gorbachev has said in his
own writings, towards the new civilization, he said, we must create a new religion, even though he admits in the same
book that he’s an atheist.
Wow.
He says, we are creating, actually, he says, we are creating a new religion for the world which will be based on Earth
worship.
So they understand that they must always have a religion to keep it in check.
Is that what the new ages say, father, mother, god? Or that that creator is asexual? I mean, where does that come from,
Helen?
It comes from, again, it’s the esoteric. People get lost when they get, it’s like you’re saying they get fixed in your mind
when you’re a child through repetition and indoctrination.
And from then on, it’s almost impossible for most people to break out of that and look back at it from the outside.
In other words, what’s being programmed into you will always make you think in a certain program direction.
It limits you. And of course, in the esoteric religion that’s always been here, they give you a beginning which is really the goal of the
end. And so they write it as a story because these priests for thousands and thousands of years know where they’ve been
going. And so they give you a deity that everybody will try and emulate or work towards really for their end product which is
almost here. And that’s why in the esoteric religions and all of them, it doesn’t matter if it’s Hinduism or Christianity or whatever, or
Judaism, you find that the deity is male and female. It’s the hermaphroditic deity.
And that is where we’re all heading towards the hermaphroditic type of new creature which they’re going to call the
great leap forward. Well, what they have planned. Yeah, and it’s here because they can do it now.
I know. They can do it now. They can create any kind of life they wish right now. But that’s where they want to go with a new type of human creature for slaves, of course.
The elite have always, in their own books that they’re written for them or by them, have always said that they
themselves will remain unchanged. But for the slave class, like Charles Galton Darwin in his book The Next Million Years, and his book he states
specifically that the elite ruling class because they are running the ship of error.
He refers to them the ruling class as the masters.
That’s right.
The masters will not be subjected to the same type of food as the subjects.
Yes.
And so they would remain unaltered so they could do the usual breeding by selection done by genealogists and priests.
While the new slave race will be perfected in that it will be self reproducing basically.
No doubt we’ll put them in injection to start the process.
But that would mean perfect control, you see.
And I can envisage today when you are a perfect slave, your reward will be to have yourself duplicated as a child. I can’t envisage that day.
Well, I hear you and I do understand that it is their intentions. And I’m not saying it’s never going to happen.
I guess maybe the reason that I won’t do that, Alan, is knowing how absolutely powerful our thoughts and our words are
and even the ability to visualize all of that together. If I dwell on envisioning it, I would feel that I was part of helping them bring it into being.
And I hold in my mind and it isn’t like hopefulness. I know that all things are possible and they have been at this for a long, long time.
They’ve actually been changing humanity for a long time. I know they have.
I see that the sperm count in the meal gets issued every year by the United Nations.
The World Health Organization, they make the announcement and the Western meal is only 25% fertile now compared
to 1950.
So it’s already happening whether they know it or not, you see.
Well, they’re doing that messing with the hormones, aren’t they?
They’ve been doing that since before I was born, yeah. And I think the inoculations were really part of the reason they brought them out was to target reproduction because
they had meetings in the 1800s and 1700s even about population reduction. People don’t realize how far back the dominant minorities, they call them, have been meeting about this kind of stuff.
Explain the dominant minority.
As you did once before, that was very fascinating. Well, the dominant minority are those who, he can go back as far as Plato, who called them the guardians.
Who was it that wrote about this, though you quoted him? Yeah, with Charles Dalton, Darwin.
No, it was somebody else, but that’s okay.
No, he did write about it.
Okay, but there was somebody else you quoted.
It wasn’t Bertrand Russell, and I don’t remember his name.
Well, they’re the ones who H.G. Wells, he wrote about them too.
But definitely it’s in Charles Galton, Darwin’s book.
The next million years, he talks about the dominant minority.
And what is the dominant minority?
Well, he’s one of the workers for them.
The ones who rule the world economically.
Everything in the world runs on economics.
Okay, and then the ones behind them are the what?
Well, the ones behind them are, as they say, the guardian class who hold the keys of the mysteries, as they call it, which
means all knowledge and archives.
The real archives and knowledge, not public libraries. And so they have the wisdom of the ages, meaning the sciences of the ages, including the science of ruling man, you
see. And this was back many thousands of years. They existed in Plato’s day and before him.
The ones who steer the ship of earth, as they say. The ones that we don’t know about.
Yeah, the ones that, and they’re never out in public. They’re never in public view.
They always have their front people, their helper classes, they call them, who take the heat.
You know, they’ll implement things in front of the public, but they’ll take the heat for doing so.
And these are the people that we all talk about, you know, the Rockefellers, etc.
They’re, again, in turn, they’re answerable to their masters.
So it’s the dominant minority that believe only in, what am I trying to say here, this third dimensional world, that this is
where they want to rule.
It’s only for eternity, in eternal bodies.
And they don’t believe in a higher being, that they are of the gods, right?
They believe that they are the higher beings.
They believe that they have, actually, they believe that they have spirit in them as well as soul.
That’s where the body, soul, and spirit are.
But the class, the few behind them, I recall this in a conversation that we had on the air where you said, we were talking
about this, and you said they don’t.
They believe that they are gods.
Well, they do.
But then the actual ones who are really in control know that man is a spirit being.
And you said their greatest fear is that, you know, because of the religions, we’re taught.
I mean, you know, we’re taught that, okay, God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son.
When I was a little girl, I laid in bed and wondered, you know, well, if Jesus was God’s own son only, then who am I
and what am I?
And I’ve heard many Christians say, well, God knows that I’m just a weak sinner, and he, you know, forgives me.
And that’s because of Jesus’ blood that was shed for me.
Okay, I see that it has given people an out, Alan.
I can’t help but I’m just a weak sinner when, in fact, the power that is within us is known by the hidden rulers behind the
dominant minority.
And you said their greatest fear is that enough people are going to wake up to the realization that that power does lie
within us. And if enough people, and I ask you at that time, how many do you think it’ll take?
And you said, I don’t think very many because there aren’t very many of them.
So the ones really in control, so the ones that we believe are in control are more controlled in a sense or as much
controlled as we are?
Absolutely. Absolutely, there’s no doubt.
Even Karl quickly mentioned that in his Anglo-American establishment.
He took us through the many of the well-known families that we are familiar with.
Their names pop up down through the last 300 years or so in positions of power in the U.S. and in England and Canada.
And he mentioned that those people work ceaselessly, implementing various agendas, but he says they take them from
higher up.
He says the real people work behind the scenes whose names are never known to the public.
They work tirelessly and their reward is knowing that they do wield the real power, not the Rockefellers.
Right.
So yeah, everything in this world is very similar to communism because communism was only a branch of the same
structure.
And communism was run by fronts.
Everything that you looked at was a front and front groups and so on.
And it’s no different when you go to the main body, which is the ones who rule all of it, including so-called capitalism
and commerce, etc.
The ones who work for them are all the front workers, the front organizations.
But the ones who rule capitalism, who created the monetary system and all that, they’re still not the ones who are in real
control.
They’re just the workers.
That’s right.
As you see in the esoteric, the guy at the top is called the Lazy Boy.
And the Lazy Boy is in French, you know, it’s a female.
The letter Z is connected to the above and below.
And Boy is a Lazy Boy.
He doesn’t work.
And they made a chair called the Lazy Boy.
Yes.
A long time ago, I don’t know if there’s still one, but those recliner chairs.
They still make them.
Yeah. Alan, I’m going to try to put us on the speaker here.
Okay.
And let’s see if everything is still okay.
It’s going to make a little bit of a noise.
Okay. Can you hear me okay?
Yeah.
Oh, good. Oh, and you sound good and clear too.
Okay.
Well, you know, that one broadcast we had that night and you were talking about that.
It takes us out of, in a sense, it takes us out of the doom and gloom and the despondency
and the hopelessness that this is a plan that is, quote, going to succeed.
And, you know, I thought about this.
I thought, well, Christmas is over.
A new year is beginning.
And of course, the new year, it marks, evidently, something important, but the next day is like every other day.
You know what I mean?
At 12 midnight and everybody says, happy new year and everything’s still the same.
Yeah.
But in my mind, I thought I would love it if tonight we could talk about the possibility and the potential, Alan.
Do you understand what I’m saying?
I think, yeah, but been there before.
Yeah.
But it’s been a long time.
Yeah.
Well, let’s see.
I’m not a cheerleader for the world.
I’m not talking about cheerleading for the world.
We won’t save the world.
That’s another thing, too.
And we won’t save the system because the system is there.
We have no say in the system.
It’s complete.
So what’s going to come out of this and who will come out of this?
It has a bit of a question mark on it yet, but there’s no doubt that we’ll go through a tremendous chaos.
We’re already in it.
We’re starting down the brink of the cup going into it now.
They hope to collapse the system through a controlled collapse, like controlled demolitions, which they’re very good at.
And then, of course, by controlling it, bring out the new system, the new world order.
And this is probably a very dicey time for them because they have to use so much marketing strategies.
They do hire thousands of think tanks, which are marketing think tanks.
Yes.
To market all propaganda to the public via the media and the news to try and mold their minds along certain paths they
want us all to follow.
So that we’ll obey properly in the proper direction when we’re told.
So it’s a very tricky, tricky part for them.
And that’s why for every bit of intelligence that breaks out from independent sources, their agencies of
counterintelligence also go into action and muddy the waters by putting out things there with certain people and dragons
and stuff like that.
Which is incredible, but it’s working in a lot of people, you know.
And for everybody who brings out a story of 9-11 and how the towers came down, et cetera, and the fact that everybody
knew it and the BBC admitted that they’ve warned the US agencies this was going to happen.
We know, I mean anybody with reason has that fixed in their head now.
They don’t have to watch movies about it.
But now they’re turning out more movies about it, but you’re only there to muddy the water.
Because they all have little bits in it that the other movies didn’t.
And they have you talking endlessly about some things you have filed away in your head by your own reason and your
own reasoning powers and said, wait a minute, they did it, I’ll move on from here.
You see?
So the counterintelligence forces are out there on the shortwave to muddy the waters of reality.
And no one can give you your reasoning powers except yourself.
You’re born with them if you care to use them.
But you can give them away and you can give that power to the media to do your thinking for you.
And lots of people, as Brzezinski said, have already done that, have been trained to do that.
But Albert Pike, the Pope of Freemasonry, said it was up to the individual to use the individual your power of reason.
You must rely upon your power of reason at all times, regardless of all the information around you.
And he said that those who will not use the power of reason for themselves are therefore just need on the table
and be so burdened by choice and consent that it was to be used to play.
So, yeah, the counterintelligence is out there at take time to muddy the waters and so we have so much information
along the truth.
So it always provides a standardized media version. That’s why counterintelligence…
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Since the beginning of time, kings have sought it. Nations have fought for it.
It has been traded. It has been borrowed. It has been purchased.
Alright folks, we’re back again with you.
Alan Lott, our guest tonight.
So Alan, where we’ve talked in the past you have
about the individual, the possibility, the potential
in each and every one of us.
And sometimes when I would like to have this conversation
for some reason it seems that you would rather not have it
but there’s so much more than what our eyes see.
There’s so much more than the plan that these creatures have
for this physical world.
And I would like, if you would, to speak on that tonight.
Well I don’t think everyone is capable of coming through number one.
I didn’t say that.
Yeah, you said everyone.
A lot of people have chosen who they want to be.
And only those who’ve got their own soul searching I think.
Good, okay, thank you, thank you.
I don’t think what we call spirit is something that’s just there.
I think it’s something you have to look for.
And of course that was the old esoteric religion, still is actually.
What?
That the old secret was that all life was composed of body and soul.
And soul was an animating principle, but it wasn’t completion
until you had spirit join it.
And even the ancient Greeks who were all taught, all the aristocracy
were taught in Egypt who had it from elsewhere of course.
They believed that that was the journey of an individual,
that the soul hungered for spirit.
And that was the journey for truth.
And truth has no conditions.
In other words you can’t drag things along as you’re seeking truth.
You almost have to cleanse yourself in a sense and be open
because there’s partial truth and there’s cloudy truth.
And that’s all due to the dragging something along with you on a new plan.
So the soul would seek out spirit as they called it.
There could be allegories too.
But when a true seeker had found it then spirit joined.
Not anybody’s spirit, but the one that was for you.
The creator made a spirit for every soul.
And of course that’s where the old term soul searching came from.
Soul searching was the animating principle within every life.
And the soul on its journey through earth here has now joined matter
and animates it towards seeking truth which is spirit.
And when he had sought it with awesome serenity then spirit joined.
And that was the soul mate.
And that was the soul mating.
That’s where it comes from.
So you reached perfection in this reality.
And I’m not talking about longevity or superpowers.
I’m talking about perfection on your journey when you had attained all three
and when three merged together.
What is perfection to them or to this?
Perfection was when you now knew that part of you
that always seemed to be missing was united within you.
You see that’s what it always really meant.
I think many people do go through life.
They know that there’s just something wrong or they’re always thrusting
for something outside of the material.
Those who rule the world try to fill that gap in with making you rush after toys
and things to buy etc.
And that’s why all things which we purchased, the ad shows, make us smile.
We’re not smiling for very long now.
We’re unsatisfied so quickly.
And we’re always looking for the next thing.
And it ran and stopped and re-evaluated everything and says,
what is it we’re really looking for?
The system tries to stop you getting to that stage
where you just come to a complete standstill and think it out.
Because truth sometimes is a veiled way of saying it’s that spirit
that was made for you.
But it’s out there somewhere and it will not join you until you’ve re-evaluated
and sort of cleansed yourself.
It’s almost as though you’re going to not just an able-gazing self-absorption state
but you certainly will re-evaluate your life.
And there’s a sort of process.
I think the person goes on the way there on that journey.
And that was perfection, knowing and having the wisdom that came with it.
In other words, full spiritual consciousness.
Yes, it gave you an awareness over whole vast areas which you perhaps didn’t have before.
And also a knowingness, a realization about things which were instant.
You understood things very easily.
It was before you had false ideas, false conclusions, false programming in a way.
And that hampered your progress.
But now it’s much easier.
So that was a person’s journey.
And everybody really, an ancient time said that everyone was here on a journey.
This is a journey through life, you know.
But it wasn’t just through the material for the material sake and having children and dying, etc.
It was to actually find yourself which was that part of you which had been made for you.
What does that mean, a part of us that had been made for us?
Yeah.
Like there’s a disconnection someplace?
Pretty well.
Could it be that the disconnection is simply in our mind Alan, because we’re not aware of the connection?
You could put it that way in the sense, in one sense, because most people are making choices all through their life.
We all are, not most people.
We’re always making choices.
Yeah, and you’ll realize that every choice they’re making is taking them a certain path.
Most people live, work and die never really understanding what’s really going on about anything.
And that’s a sad comment, but it’s true.
And they can be very, very nice people and their family love them and all that kind of stuff.
But it’s never dawned on them that there was anything evil within the world, running the world.
It never dawned on them that the system that they were born into was totally, totally different from the way that same
system trained them to look at it.
They had never realized any of that, you know.
These thoughts simply didn’t come to them.
And so they die, never knowing.
You know, metaphysically, it is said that this third dimensional world is illusion.
And that’s something maybe we could intellectualize, but very difficult to actually grasp the concept of.
I’ll tell you, metaphysically, it was meant, and it was put out there and taught out there, to form a sense of disassociation,
which I’ve seen in many people who’ve been through.
But what I mean, what I was going to follow this with, Alan, is that when we begin to learn the truth of this whole
physical world and the system in it, we begin to see the illusion that was created for us.
We should be.
It’s because the whole everything we’ve ever, almost everything that we have ever been taught, been a lie.
And so in a sense, we have lived in an illusion.
And also the illusions turn to delusions, because a delusion is a fixed false belief.
That’s the definition of it.
So illusions can create delusions.
And as long as enough people have been trained the same way in the illusions, then the majority of people are now
deluded.
That’s what that would come to.
Well, it seems that down throughout the ages, something has stopped their plan.
And maybe it was what you said a long, long time ago.
It isn’t going to take very many, because there aren’t very many of them.
And I’ve wondered, because you know, the book that we call the Bible, that is called the Bible, which I understand Bible
means book, Biblio.
Yeah, but, oh shoot, I lost my train of thought when I took myself down that cul-de-sac in the Bible.
Shoot, never mind, it’ll come back to me.
Yeah, but as I say, I think we have to even think outside of the box as we always.
And it’s possible to do.
It is possible to think outside of the box and not use any of the tools that have given us.
Right.
And unfortunately holy books of any denomination are their tools.
Right, however, according to what I understand, I don’t know if this is true, but they have to give us truth.
Well, they can give us truth, but it’s always so vague.
It’s always mixed in with all the lies.
It’s always veiled. It’s always veiled so heavily.
But there are some simple truths, Alan.
Pardon?
There are some simple truths.
Oh, simple ones.
And what I’m saying is that in the book that we call the Bible, there are truths.
Yeah.
We need to be discerning.
I talk to people who say, oh, yeah, part of the Bible is symbology, you know, because you just can’t take it literally.
But then there’s certain things and stories and I call them stories because I don’t know the truth of any of the quote
stories that we’ve been given in the Bible.
But the simple truth that we’ve been given, allegedly, that they attribute, if you would, to the one that we know as Jesus,
simply, for example, do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
You know, Alan, the whole world, the whole world would be working if that were in the process.
If that were, if each and every single one of us treated others as we would want to be treated, not as we’re treated, but as
we would want to be treated, their plan would fail.
Yeah.
That’s one of the simple…
They also want the populace to understand these truths.
They want them to?
Yeah.
Why?
So that they will be well-behaved while the elite do things so covertly behind them, behind the scenes.
Because society can only work on certain basic rules and those are the basic rules you’re talking about.
But people, we don’t live by those rules.
No, but society, we still have…
That’s the rule.
That’s the place, basically.
So see that as the rule.
Sure, I know what a maxim is, but I see that if we…
See, because think about this.
Think about the people.
I think a children’s family services a lot.
Yeah.
Think about those people that work for the bureaucracies.
Yeah.
If they were treating people as they would want to be treated, Alan.
Yeah.
That whole bureaucracy would fall apart because nobody could do what they’re doing.
That’s what I’m saying.
Everybody said they were supposed to be doing…
There’d be no money to hire people to work in those places.
Yeah, I know that.
But I’m…
See, everything is coercion in a monetary system.
I know that.
Where you’re given no choice but to use their money and you are given no choice today.
Fine.
However, a person who works in a bureaucracy, let’s say there was one whole big, huge bureaucracy
called children family services.
Okay?
And everybody that they hired, no matter how small-minded, mean-minded they seem,
because those are the people they hire, if those people got into that position and they went into somebody’s home
and they see that that home’s not a whole lot different than theirs,
but they don’t write up these terrible reports because see, they get paid for how many children are stolen out of the home
and et cetera, et cetera.
If they wouldn’t do that, Alan, that whole bureaucracy would fall apart.
It couldn’t exist.
Do you see what I’m saying?
Yeah, I know that.
But as I say, none of this would…
We know all that, but you could never do it in just one bureaucracy.
You’d have to literally…
I’m just using one as an example.
Yeah, you’d need to do away with the money, then all of this system would have to go.
You can’t have some things as they are.
How can you do away with the money?
You know what you said?
You said this a long time ago, too.
When enough people understand that monetary system,
it’ll collapse of itself.
Well, it would.
That’s what I’m talking about, Alan.
You see, the choice is you either go along with the money system,
which is part of the policymaker, you see, for the planet,
leading us to know where the…
We know where they’re leading us.
They’ve told us often enough.
And that’s a choice.
Or we can literally all stop and attract.
And it would take that.
It would take people stopping in their tracks,
not driving to work, not going along with it,
and shutting everything down.
That’s truly what it would take.
We are talking about a kind of a miracle in that sense.
But that’s what it would take for people who realized
that that was the only way to literally stop the system.
Because you can’t have parts of the system
and expect some other parts to change.
It won’t work that way.
Money in the world is all-powerful.
It’s all-powerful.
It runs every country.
It runs the lives of every individual.
Including you.
Everybody.
We’re given no choice.
You can’t sit in your land.
They come along demanding taxes.
They won’t take rabbit skins anymore.
Let’s take that as an example.
The people who are in the government,
local government, state government,
I don’t know, forget federal government.
I’m talking down to the individual.
I had a conversation with one of our county commissioners
that one day I told you about this.
He said this so nonchalantly.
I had called him, left a message.
He called the next day.
Apologize for not returning my call quicker.
But they were out seizing a home.
Taxes.
And he said it so nonchalantly.
And I said, isn’t, oh my God, Walt,
isn’t that a shame?
He said what?
I said taking somebody’s home.
Because they can’t pay their taxes.
He said, well, we’ve got to do something
or nobody would pay their taxes.
Okay, this is the example I’m talking about.
And this may sound like la-la land to you, Alan,
but this is what I’m talking about.
This man who is a county commissioner says,
wait a minute, something’s real wrong here.
What are we doing?
These people have paid for their home.
It’s mortgage-free.
They don’t have the money to pay the taxes.
Are we going to steal their home out from under them?
I’m saying, Alan, and I know this sounds really
maybe la-la land or esoteric or whatever you want to call it,
what I’m saying is that if all of us did unto others
as we would have others do unto them, to us,
we couldn’t do that.
We couldn’t do that, Alan.
Yeah, but how are we going to get all people to do that?
You said yourself it isn’t going to take very many.
Yeah, but the thing is…
Because there aren’t very many of them, Alan.
I don’t think…
I’m not saying how are we going to get people to do that.
He aren’t going to get people to do anything.
I mean, we can have conversations
and maybe somebody listening starts thinking
and says, oh my God.
All you can do is bring them to a certain understanding.
The system, one way or another,
the whole system is going to change totally.
I mean, totally, you know.
It could begin to collapse, Alan.
And it will either come out with…
It will come out with either their new system.
So just for fun, we’ll say
that everybody listening to this broadcast tonight,
maybe there’s 50, 60, 70,
maybe suddenly they get it, Alan.
Oh my God, that makes sense.
And they start looking at themselves
and they begin to treat others.
They would want to be treated.
Now, there’s two sides to this coin
because Jesus said, you know,
love your neighbor as yourself.
You remove yourself from the presence of people
that are not treating you
the way you’re willing to treat them.
And so why would we allow ourselves
to be treated less?
So we just remove ourselves
from that person’s presence.
But that is exactly what I’m saying.
So let’s say that 60 or 70 people,
and there’s a lot more, I’m sure,
that aren’t listening to this broadcast
that at least think about this
and make an attempt to live that way
even when it’s some little thing you do
that nobody’s even around.
Like, remember I told you
when I went grocery shopping
and I didn’t put that basket into that thing.
I just shoved it up against the snow bank.
I got in my car and I thought,
that was really a rotten thing to do.
I could have taken that around
and put it…
I just had to go around the snow bank.
And it’s looking at ourselves,
looking at not just what we’re doing, Alan,
but when we have these emotions going on,
anger, upset, fear,
want to get revenge on somebody
who did something to us,
take a look at ourselves.
Well, know thyself is always…
Keep and keep looking,
keep examining, keep questioning.
Why did I do that?
Why do I feel this way?
Where’s it coming from?
You see what I’m saying?
And we just begin being that,
treating other people
as we would want other people to treat us.
You know what I think?
I think it would all start to collapse.
And I don’t know what would happen
to the monetary system,
but as you said yourself,
if enough people begin to understand it,
it would collapse of itself.
Yeah, it would.
It would take a tremendous re-evaluation of…
Of course it would.
We’d be reduced, oh my God,
to bartering, Alan.
Well, here’s the choice right now.
I think Adolf Hitler did in Germany.
When you leave Eden,
and Eden’s an allegory for the natural state,
there’s only one path out of Eden.
And that’s through science, you know.
I don’t know what does that mean?
And it’s through so-called
altering our environment to change ourselves,
or to suit ourselves.
And of course,
ultimately the sciences,
as they’ve always said in esoteric remasonry,
will recreate that which was left in perfect.
Okay, you know what?
You just said a whole mouthful.
And I’m going to try to write it down.
Eden, the gate out of the Eden, is science.
The path is one direction, yeah.
Gate out of Eden.
Okay, you know what I’d like to do?
I’d like to pick this up next Wednesday.
Yeah.
Because I’m not understanding this,
and I really would like to.
Gate out of Eden is science.
Yeah, the path, the path out of Eden,
there’s only one path leads out of it.
The path.
Okay, and Eden is an allegory.
Okay.
And that has to do with something we were talking about.
Yeah, the natural, it’s a natural state.
All right, oh good.
I’ve made the notes.
Actually, couldn’t it?
But you’ll lose it, though.
No, uh-uh.
Uh-uh, I got it right here on my little notepad.
I’m not going to lose it,
because every time we say we’re going to pick something up next week,
or tomorrow when we used to do, you know, three days in a row,
we couldn’t pick it up.
I would really like to pick this up,
because you’re saying that it relates
to what we were talking about just now?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Because we’re out of time here.
And I want to wish our listeners, folks,
just a happy new year.
I mean, that is so trite,
so I’m not going to say that.
But peace and joy and love,
and maybe that sounds trite,
but I mean that from all of my heart,
because I believe that that is our natural state.
Is it a lie?
It’s part of the plan
Or is it a stain
Of my life?
Never forget it!
You’re listening to Jackie Petru and Sweet Liberty
And now, here’s your host, Jackie Petru
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen
Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty
Tonight is Wednesday
It is the 18th of October in the year 2006
And I’m back with you live here tonight, folks I had programs, later programs, replayed for you
The last couple of weeks because of a cold that I had And of course, because as many of you know
Alan and I, Alan Watt, came to some, what have been, impasse On the last two broadcasts that we did
I am going to talk about that tonight I really would rather not Although my phone calls and the emails that I’ve been getting
I feel that I must at least address the issue To answer some of your questions
Because I’m sure that there are those of you who have questions
That haven’t written and haven’t called
Let’s do the spiritual message first
And then we’ll get started
I would have liked to have been able to have somebody on with me this evening
Just to have a conversation, a give and take
That is, of course, what I’ve become so accustomed to
I used to do this broadcast by myself most of the time I had guests on occasionally from time to time
But I did the broadcast by myself And very often I would have something planned for the evening I’d walk into the studio and a thought would pop into my mind
I’d be digging through files for papers that I wanted to use to share Whatever it was that came into my mind
And I have very much enjoyed most of the conversations That Alan and I have had on the air
Anyway, let me get to this spiritual message Folks, this is from Matthew
It is Matthew 5 beginning at verse 14
These are words written in the red
And they’re words attributed to Jesus
The one we know as Jesus
He said, ye are the light of the world
A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid
And neither do men light a candle
And put it under a bushel
But on a candle stick
And it gives light unto all that are in the house
Let your light so shine before men
That you may, excuse me
Let your light so shine before men
That they may see your good works
And glorify your Father which is in heaven
And there’s one more I want to do here
I’ve done this many, many times
I love this, this is in 1 John 1 John
It’s in the back, towards the back of the New Testament
It is 1 John verse 4
Excuse me, chapter 4
And it begins here in verse 4
Ye are of God, little children
And have overcome them
Because greater is he that is in you
Than he that is in the world
And then we skip down to 7
Verse 7, Beloved, let us love one another
For love is of God
And everyone that loves is born of God
And knows God
And folks, I really, I don’t feel comfortable this evening
I want to tell you that Because I’m not on here I didn’t come on tonight to argue about
Or to denigrate or talk against Alan Watt But there are questions that I hope, so hope
And I would be able to do together Because of questions that people have posed to me
Questions that are sincere Questions that really get to the very core
Of our very being, if you would Because there is no contest, no dispute
From information that Alan has brought us over the past
At least five years
As far as ancient history goes
I don’t have the books
Most of us don’t have the books that Alan has referred to
Many of them, he’s had access to some mighty powerful works
And he has opened the eyes and opened the ears
And opened the minds of hundreds, thousands of people Since 1998 And for those of you who are new listeners
And I might skip around here tonight folks Because my thoughts do that to me
As I’m talking about one thing, another thought enters
And I take myself down a cul-de-sac For those of you who are newer listeners And who so appreciated the broadcasts
And the information that was shared I want you to know that
At the website at www.SweetLiberty.org
There are a lot of archives
Alan has that suite at CuttingToTheMatrix.com Even maybe more, I don’t know
Than we have at Sweet Liberty
As far as archives, as far as past broadcasts
That we’ve done together
Because to cover all of the information That has been covered over these past years
And try to get it down into a little boil So to speak, it’s just impossible to do
What I encourage you to do folks The archives at www.SweetLiberty.org
They’re absolutely free And the archives, the radio broadcasts That CuttingToTheMatrix are absolutely free
And I would advise those of you Who are newer listeners To go back into the archives
We’ve covered it all Over and over and over as a matter of fact Our long-time listeners are very aware of that
Alan covered the same material And as he said on the air That it is said that people need to hear something eight times
Before they’re going to remember it Maybe so
So there is very little
That it was being discussed
Even in this past three, four, five, six months That hadn’t been discussed
Many times in the past So once again If you go back into the archives at www.SweetLiberty.org
And CuttingToTheMatrix You’ll be able to catch up Also, Nicholas has available
For our listeners The entire year 2004 Which we were doing For the most part of the year
We were doing four nights a week And they weren’t all with Alan Watt But many of them were The year 2004
And the year 2005 are on disc And you can get the entire year 2004 or 2005 For $120 It’s over 200 broadcasts a year
Is what it is
And so it’s less
If you can afford it
Or maybe want to go in with some friends So that you can get the discs
And listen to the past broadcast I think it’s a wonderful opportunity
For people who want to go back that far And to listen to what’s been said in the past
Alan first contacted me I was on shortwave We had a very large shortwave listening audience He contacted me first In June of 1998
We talked on the telephone
Probably at least once a week
Sometimes twice a week
Until December
Before I invited him on the air
And then once we got on the air together
We did a lot of broadcasts together
The listeners, as I said, have so appreciated it
However, there was a hiatus
In even our communication
From December of 2001
Until sometime 2003
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I believe it was around the middle of 2004 It was about two and a half years That we actually lost touch with each other And then he called And we started doing broadcasts again together So all in all, we’ve had about five years on the air I regret the impasse that we came to And I want to make it clear to you folks I had a couple of calls from people
Who wanted to know about it So I went in to listen to what he calls a blurb And he said that it was last week That he wouldn’t be doing the broadcast
Because I was having a replay And also that he said that he believed That we are at an impasse with a question mark
Well, I listened to a new one That he’s done, I think it’s called Ego vs. Truth And in it, well first of all
He said that he would have it available By 9.30 this evening
For you all to listen to I was sorry to see that he was doing that
We’ve done so many broadcasts together
And he knows that Sweet Liberty is on at 9.00 p.m.
I noticed that on the 4th of October
Which was a Wednesday
And the 11th, and he, in his blurb He said that he would have one Ready to download for you tonight
And listen to So it looks as though Maybe he would reconsider
And maybe he would do his at 8.00
Or at 10.00 p.m.
Given that I am on WFAR And I am on a specific time slide Alan’s doing his from computer
And I think it would be very nice After all these years If there wasn’t a competition for time
So maybe Alan will reconsider Give that a little bit of thought
And allow you all
To listen to Sweet Liberty
And the cutting through the matrix
If you so choose
I wanted to acknowledge the phone calls That I’ve acknowledged Those of you who’ve called on the phone And many emails that I’ve received
Emails of support and emails Saying please resolve this So that you and Alan can start in again
Although many of you who send emails Have said thank you for asking the questions
That I’ve asked And hopefully that maybe Alan would be
Willing to answer directly direct questions I want you to know that the impasse folks
Has absolutely nothing to do With me being angry That he and I do not disagree
Excuse me, do not agree
I don’t get angry with anybody Who doesn’t quote belief The way that I believe
And even though I share
My understanding of spiritual truth
If a person does not accept it
They do not accept it
And so the impasse has nothing to do
With my being upset
That he didn’t agree with my belief
Because in so many areas
We are on the same wavelength
The impasse was my desire
To have him answer or to define
If you would certain things
That he has said
And the answers are not forthcoming
The reason this is important to me
And you’ve heard me say this on the air
You’ve heard me say it on this broadcast
I’ve listened as we’re having conversations
Some nights and I think how
How overwhelming it can be
All of the information to really wake up
It is very, very overwhelming
And I know it because I experienced it
I was awake to a certain point
When Alan first called me
In fact maybe that’s why he called me
The first time he called
He said he had been listening
And that he told his wife That I almost got it but not quite And so evidently from listening
He realized that I am a seeker of truth And that I wasn’t totally asleep
However, my awareness If you would in this physical realm
Of the system My awareness of that
Went back a hundred or two hundred years
In the history that I had read
I’m not talking about history
That we get in school
But Alan took us back a thousand years
Two thousand years
And my eyes were opened
It took a while
And sometimes he would say something
And it would take me four months to get it
And suddenly you get it
And when it’s all coming at you
I do understand how overwhelming it can be
Another thing besides how overwhelming it is
I don’t want to leave people hopeless I don’t want to create hopelessness
Within anybody
That is not what I’m here for
And I know that it isn’t my purpose in life
It’s to bring hopelessness
And I pray
I have prayed in the past for discernment To be able to know the truth
The difference between truth and lies
And truth sayers and the liars Because not only would I ever, never
Intentionally mislead
Any one of you, anyone
I don’t want to do it unintentionally, folks
I don’t claim to have all the knowledge
That truth, I know truth
I know some truth, simple truth
I do know that as we so-so shall we read
I know that
I know that it is a universal law
And I also know that our Creator
Has blessed us, has bestowed every blessing
Already upon us
And it simply awaits our gratitude, our love
And our openness to receive it
I know that
I do know also that we are spiritual beings
And Alan knows that too
And they’re…
So now I’m going to stop here and back up a little bit
My concerns have become
A mixed message
What I see is a mixed message
That was why I was hoping that we could talk about these things on the air
Not personally, not privately
But talk about it on the air
For the benefit of you all
So that we can understand
If there is a way that we can understand a discrepancy
What I see is a discrepancy
Or maybe allow Alan an opportunity to restate..Maybe he misdated himself At one time or another
And it doesn’t have anything to do with discrepancies About ancient religion, excuse me, ancient history
It is on the spiritual level, folks And this is my concern
And the fact that I have been an avenue Since 1998 with that two and a half year hiatus
Right up till the current time I have been the avenue For Alan to get his message out
I feel a very deep Sense of responsibility
Besides the love with which I do this broadcast
But a responsibility
I’ve had another broadcaster said
One time the trouble with Jackie is that She debates with her guest too much Whenever I had a guest on
That said something that I absolutely knew was not so Then I would address it And if it turned into a debate
Which I didn’t bring ever Bring anybody on to debate with But the one thing I would never do
Is to sit and let somebody make a statement
As though it’s fact when I know the actual facts
I’m not talking opinions here Maybe a political thing, whatever
But I could not sit and not say anything Because then to me
It would mean that my listeners Accept that I agree
And I don’t agree with inconsistencies And that is what this is all about
Is just inconsistencies
It is an opinion
And it isn’t beliefs
They’re just very simple and basic
Facts
But they, as I said earlier
They relate, they affect
The very core of our being
And I did, I do, I’m going to
Address a few of these this evening
Simply because we weren’t able to do it on the air
As I wrote to somebody that
Yes, we are in an impasse
I don’t know if it’s resolvable
Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t
But I do know that we need closure on this, folks
If it isn’t resolvable
I could not see myself coming on the air
And pretending that Alan Watt never existed
In our presence with me and with you all together
Now, excuse me
What I’m going to do here, I did this back in May
These are words that Alan stated
And that was May 17th, I believe, if I’m not mistaken
Or it might have been May the 24th
This is a conversation he was having
With our mutual friend, Miss Effie Bernthorn
And the reason I’m going to repeat this
Is because this was stated very emphatically
And it was also stated very emphatically
At another time on sweet liberty
The message today is different than this
He was talking about the secret societies
And he said that people need to go to meetings
And challenge them
This was part of the conversation
And make them admit that they have given a note
To another association or a club or whatever
And Miss Evie said that it seemed like
You’d become a martyr if you did that
Because if you got up there in front of all of them
And he said, yes, it would be like you are a martyr
But he said, you know, the policemen are nothing but bully boys
Then here’s where he began
The conversation that I transcribed from that conversation
They had, she had it on tape
Because he never said it again
When I wanted to talk about it
The subject was always changed
These are his words
He says, talking about the policemen being bully boys
That they’re in the minority
And once the head is cut off of any monster
The rest of it falls apart
I’m trying not to read this whole thing
But just to skip down
They’re just robots who take a central command in a paycheck
But you’re conditioned to them all as invincible
And undefeatable
But then really, you go beyond them
You go to the ones who are in control of it all
And point them out as being the gangsters that they are
They’re obvious gangsters
And that’s when they talked about going up to the crowd, etc
And then he said it would be like being a martyr
And he said it would be that anyway
He said there’s also another element to all of it, you see
And it does involve the fact that there is a consciousness in this world
And you can create consciousness in this world by willing it to be so
And when you have enough on the same wavelength as it were
Because the other side used this technique for sure
When you have other people who are willing
Another way to come into existence
That is the real war that goes on
And it is a spiritual battle
We know that as well as the physical, don’t we folks?
He said because at the very top of this
Behind all the religions
Behind all the masterminds that ever existed
And gurus
They have always known that there is such a thing
As a spiritual force within everybody
That can be utilized
And they’re more terrified of that than anything else
And again he said that’s the key
Because if you can keep everybody trapped in a world where everything boils down to
Matter
Things that are produced and procuring wealth
As long as they can keep us trapped in basic material needs
We cannot get to that plane where the real war goes on
And he said they’ve written about this
That’s what’s done me
Is that they did write about this
And when you have enough people
Just enough people
You don’t even have to be the 3%
But when you have enough
Who are honest enough
And who are self enlightened
They’ve come to that plateau
Who will will it to be another way
And that’s when their world will come crashing down
And big changes will be made
And that’s
As far as I’m going to go with that
That is the main thing that I wanted you to hear
Ladies and gentlemen
That within every individual
Is a spiritual force
And the reason this is them
I know that this is so
I know that this is so
And the reason that I bring this up
Because it is so important
In my mind
For all of us to know this
We don’t have to
We don’t have to twist ourselves in pretzels
We don’t have to pray to saints
We are one with our father creator
We are of our father creator
And the communication
Is within us
The ability to communicate is within us
And
I went and listened to
Some other broadcasts
That he had been on some other shows
Because people were calling me
And saying, did you hear this show
And he said this and he said that
And I would go to listen
And the one thing that I have heard him say
And he said it on Sweet Liberty Sense
Is that everybody doesn’t have spirit
Now that is exactly opposite
Of what I just read to you
And what was said on the air
On Sweet Liberty
To a very large shortwave audience
And I believe we were on the internet at the time
Not sure
But when people
If it was anybody
Just anybody who said that
You could take it with a grain of salt
It wouldn’t bother me
This is Alan Watt
Who’s been a guest on this broadcast
Hundreds of times
Who made the statement
In direct opposition
To the one that I just read to you
That was made
That within every single individual
Is a spiritual force
Now the message is
Everybody doesn’t have spirit
Everybody doesn’t have spirit
And that a spirit was made for us
But we have to call the spirit to us
And spirit doesn’t always come
That’s frightening to people
Who hear that
And the reason it’s frightening
Is that people hear it from Alan Watt
And I do know this
Is that in fact I mentioned it to Alan that Wednesday
There are many people
Who have adopted Alan as their new guru
And as Alan has cautioned you
And as he said many times
That people are just looking
For another guru to follow
For someone else to follow
When Alan Watt says it
People take it seriously
And if he had only been a one-time guest
I wouldn’t spend a broadcast doing this, folks
But he’s been here so many times
And because of that
He has the responsibility to address these differences
And possibly he would like to ask him the questions yourself
Or possibly Alan may call
I don’t know
I would rather not have a private conversation
I would like to do it on the air
That may not happen
And I won’t be spending another broadcast like this
I want you to know that
We’ll get on to other things
We’re going to take a break here
And we’ll be right back
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So that was one of the, to me, the very important inconsistencies
That I think would be wonderful if it was explained
How everybody doesn’t have spirit
We have to call spirit to us
And sometimes spirit doesn’t come
And then on the other hand
To say that within every individual
Is a spiritual force
That was the message
That was the message of love and hopefulness
Not hopelessness
And there was another statement that was made
That regarding reincarnation
That we only get ten times, ten lifetimes
That was, he said, that was an ancient
From an ancient religion I don’t know
This was a discussion we had on the air
In fact it was just a prayer
To our having our two and a half year hiatus
He said for those who are waking up right now
It’s too late
And to say that to people
Who admire and respect and believe
The person that they’re listening to
And the fact that there is such wisdom
And there is such a vast memory bank
Full of ancient history that has been given us
People take it seriously
That causes confusion
When we were on our last broadcast
I thought what he said was so
When he was talking about people stepping out of the system
And the first step that’s taken out of that system
Is the beginning
And that’s when the spiritual side begins to develop
What I would like you to do is keep that in your mind
Keep that in your mind
That within every single one of us
Is the spiritual force
That literally can overcome this world
As Jesus said, ye are the light of the world
Ye are the light of the world
You keep that in your mind
Because I know that for the most part
You’ll continue to listen to Alan
But you keep that in your mind
It’s never too late
No, I take that back
I can’t say that
Any more than Alan can say
We only have ten lifetimes
It is my belief
Not a knowing, it is my belief
Like a knowing
That when we begin questioning
And we begin seeking truth
Is when we begin
And the journey back home, if you would
Into spiritual consciousness
I have no doubts of that in my mind, folks
And maybe we don’t get
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of time
Maybe if we don’t learn our lessons
And lessons are presented to us
Over and over and over again
And we choose
We choose to ignore it
We choose to ignore that still small voice within us
Because we always know every time
That we do something that isn’t okay
We know it
I’m not talking religious
Like if you don’t go to church on Sunday
You’re going to hell
Or if you happen to eat meat on Sunday
Or if you eat shellfish or whatever
I’m not talking religious things
I’m talking about, as Jesus told us
When they ask him, what is the greatest commandment?
He didn’t say, thou shalt not, thou shalt not, thou shalt not
He said, love your father with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength
And love your neighbor as yourself
That is the greatest commandment
And both are the same
And we all know each and every one of us
Every time we do something that isn’t okay
That is mean or petty or vindictive
Or revengeful
If it isn’t loving
If it isn’t kind or compassionate
We’re stepping off the path
And we know it
And when we choose to ignore that
Over and over and over again
Maybe it happens
Maybe the energy dissipates back into the ethers
I don’t know
When I brought up this conversation that I read to you earlier
On that one particular broadcast
He said that that was meant for one person
And I reminded him that he had said it before
To a huge audience of fundamentalist Christians, actually
A different listening audience than we have today
Because we’ve had many, many conversations about the religions
And Alan said that everybody isn’t ready for it
Well, folks, to withhold spiritual truth
Because somebody might not be ready for it
It’s an inconsistency
The truth is written in our hearts
And we know the truth when we hear it
But everybody isn’t ready for it
That was only meant for one person, I was told
And he said that we shouldn’t talk against people’s religions
Because it’ll push them away
Or I forget which word was used
Well, Alan and I have spent dozens and dozens of hours
Discussing religions and how religions are man-made
And exposing the lives of religion
And suddenly, on that particular night
We’re not supposed to say anything
I didn’t say anything, by the way, against somebody’s religion
I read a very beautiful passage of a conversation
Of words that Alan spoke to our friend Effie
And that he had spoken on the air before
But that particular night, I believe, as I said, it was May 24th
This year, it was only meant for one person
Everybody isn’t ready for it
And if Alan, he said that he talks with people on a one-to-one basis
I said that you can’t talk to everybody, Alan
My concern, my concern
Is each and every person who’s listening to this broadcast
Takes from it something that is uplifting
And no, I’m not a cheerleader for this world
But to leave this broadcast so downcast
That I’ve had mail from people and emails from people
Okay, what are we supposed to do? Sounds to me like this is a done deal
We’re supposed to just roll over and play dead? No
And we do that, which we’re led to do from within us
But I was told that he talks one-on-one to people
And when I said you can’t talk to everybody
I wanted our listeners who are ready for this to hear it
Then the comment was made that you can’t say things
Against people’s religion
And when I said you can’t talk to everybody
He said I’ve talked to hundreds
I said, but that isn’t everybody, Alan
And there was dissension there
People called me and said he was miffed at you this evening
I regret that, folks
But to sit and say nothing
When comments are made that are an exact opposition
To what has been said before
That nullifies the truth is what it does
And given that this is a Sweet Liberty broadcast
Hosted by Jackie Patru
And that I opened the doors
Back in 1998 for that message to get out
Then I owe to you some explanation here
As to what the quote impasse is
It isn’t that I’m angry because Alan doesn’t believe
In what I do, as a matter of fact
Very much we’re on the same page
And when this message began to come out
More and more and more
Everybody doesn’t have a spirit
And then we’re talking about…
So I never did understand this
And I asked the question about it
Those who have been cast here
I cast down
I asked where they cast down from
Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within us
Are they from up there in the sky somewhere in the clouds?
We cannot be cast away from our Creator
Because we’re one with our Creator
We can choose to ignore that
Or maybe we don’t know it
But if it’s presented and we choose to ignore it
It doesn’t change anything
It doesn’t make it not so
What it means is that in our mind
If we deny it
And turn our backs and say
That isn’t so, there is no God
Or whatever
Then if as it isn’t
But it doesn’t change anything
I cannot be cast away from my Creator
I cannot cast my Creator from me
Because I am one with my Creator
As you and each and every one of us are
It is choices we make
Choices we make
If we have the opportunity to make the choice
If we ever come out of the lies of the religions
And this next that I want to share with you
I had a gentleman call me and tell me about this
I had gotten all about it
And I actually had it played for you
Last Wednesday
Because I wasn’t going to be on the air
This was the broadcast that Alan and I did
In August of 1931
2004
And it was replayed
In our archives
On November the 2nd
We were talking about
The different colors
Of man, etc, etc
And talking about a white race
And I said
He was talking, we were talking about
The red-haired
The red-haired pharaohs
And people in China that they found red-headed
And they were white
I said this sounds like a white race Alan
And he said it is
He says yeah but I said well is it
He said well it is definitely a white race
And now listen
He said it goes back
Into the legends of a super white race
That were almost albino in the beginning
And that goes back
To the ancient mystery religions
The ancient mystery religions
Of the ones who were cast here
To the earth
And the first bodies they created for themselves
Were basically pure albino
So what we’re getting here
I thought at that time
That he was explaining
What the ancient mystery religion belief was
And then he went into the Old Testament
The different, what they called them
Horites and etc
He said there’s no doubt
That the priesthood knew
Things did not begin with the Hebrews
You knew that, you know that
The world has been here much much much longer
It’s been through many empires that are lost in time
And lost in history
There have been many bids
By the evil doers
You might call them on the planet
To take the whole world
Into their own control
And under their own control
For complete and total control
As you see happening today
There’s no argument there is there
But he says that something
The real creator
Always steps in at the grand finale
And seems to make him low again
And then they go back into hiding
They go back to the mystery religions
Because they’re hunted
And I ask is this their history
As they tell it
This is their history, yeah
When you say the real creator steps in
That’s as though saying our creator
Actively gets involved in what’s going on
That’s beyond my ability to comprehend
He says well long before the so called
Mystery religions
It was said that everyone on earth
The natural people who lived here
Could converse freely on a one to one basis
With the creator
There was no priesthood
And eventually over a period of time
This creator left the world
Running like a clock
Left the world
That’s like our creator comes and goes
And it sounds to me like our creator is a man
I’m not saying that our creator could not manifest
Into anything
But think about this folks our creator is
Within each and everything in this physical realm
There is a consciousness
In all things
A consciousness in the plants and the trees
In the animals
In the fish and the birds
There is a consciousness
And that consciousness is of creator
Because creator is
All
In which we live and move
And breathe and have our being
Our creator cannot come and go
And this is what we were told
That it goes back to the ancient mystery religions
And he said
They claimed that there was a war
Between these other beings and the creator
And these beings were cast here
Now he said
A few paragraphs before this
Or a few minutes before this
That the ancient mystery religion
Religion is the one that teaches
That there were evil doers who were cast here
And of course Alan has told us
And exposed and verified and confirmed
Religions were made by man
Ancient mystery religion
I don’t care what religion it was
Religions are made by man people
But anyway
Those who were cast here
Started the whole ball rolling
Of trying to conquer everything
Through the use of science
To control everything in the whole world
And they’ve tried at least seven times
According to the Brahmins
The Brahmin religion
So we’re talking about religions here
We’re talking about beliefs
And when I said
And then he said that the secret is
That the creator himself
Put his faith into the lives of some people
During that period
In other words
If there’s something worth saving here
Or changing
He will come back and change it
I said now this sounds like
Now are you saying this is their story?
And he said no
This was written about in religions
Pre-existing the Hebrews
So what I’m getting here
Is that this is the story
It’s a story
And it’s from ancient religions
Those who were cast here
And the creator
Left the world
We may as well be talking about Jehovah
The God Jehovah
Of the Old Testament
That Alan mentioned was Lucifer
I wouldn’t disagree with that
Not sure exactly
What Lucifer
Represents
Or is meant to represent
Maybe the Lord of this world
I’m not talking
When I talk about creator
I’m talking about the source
Of all that is
And there’s the difference
In spiritual truth
And talking about ancient religions
Belief folks
And maybe I’ve said enough on this
For you to at least consider
As much as
As you appreciate
And I’ve appreciated Alan
Alan and I have become friends
Well, in a sense maybe
I thought we were friends
And I do regret
That this has happened
Although maybe
This was meant to happen
When it did as it did
Because I can’t
Talk about
I don’t want to talk about
This material world
And those cast here
And people taking over this world
We have to talk about
The truth of our history here
And the truth of this system
And you can go and listen to
Hundreds of hours about that
When we’re talking spiritual issues
I would prefer not to bring
The stories of the religion
Of the Brahmins
Of the Hebrews
The ancient mystery religions
And refer to it as though
It’s a spiritual truth
And of course it is up for you to discern
And that would mean asking
Asking for discernment
The answers are within us
All of the answers
And just be discerning
And know that everything I say
Is not truth
I don’t claim to have all the truth
But begin to go within
And we have talked about this
Alan had discussed this
Begin to go within
To be, to sit quietly
To find quiet time
And to begin seeking
I believe that the majority of you
Who are listening to this broadcast
And I don’t get the same kind of calls
That Alan does
You know, the people who call
That are ready to go off the edge
And off the deep end
And go into psychiatrists
That have to be programmed
And reprogrammed
I get calls from those of you
Who want to talk
Who ask questions
I can only share with you
The level of my understanding
And my own personal experiences
And I know that’s been
Invalidated in a sense
That the trouble with sharing
Your own experiences
Is that nobody can relate to them
I understand that
We have to have our own
Although I can speak
From personal experiences
That I’ve had
I know that the universe is benevolent
And I know that we are
Beloved
And holy and precious
Children of our creator
We don’t act that way
All the time, do we?
We have the potential
Let me put it that way
We were created that way
We were created that way
Like a perfect symphony
Written
Maybe we need to learn
How to play
The notes of that symphony
And then we will be
We will be
Being what we truly are
As children of God
Children of creator
I don’t like that word
We’re almost out of time here
I was wishing tonight
That I was set up to take your calls
I took the phone away
From the broadcast desk
When I went off the air
And I unplugged some things
I don’t know how to plug everything back in
And there’s a possibility
That maybe I’ll get it hooked back up again
So that I can take your calls
That would be fun
I would love to talk with you and hear from you
And I can’t tell you today
What we’ll be doing next week
Because I don’t know
As I told you this evening
That I would rather
Not have had
This conversation tonight
I would have rather had it with Alan
I almost feel like I’m talking behind his back
Although I’m not
Because I know he’s listening
And
And that is the way
I would have hoped it could have been
And it wasn’t
So it doesn’t mean you’ll never hear Alan
What again, does it, folks?
Because he’s doing his own
In fact, as I mentioned earlier
At least tonight
He said that tonight
His show tonight would be
Posted at 9.30
Maybe he will
Reconsider that
And either do his at 8 o’clock or 10 o’clock
So you don’t have to make a choice
It doesn’t matter to me
I’ve never advertised this broadcast
I have over 400 people
On my email list
And I never once
Sent out an email that I recall
I might have once or twice
But I always felt in my mind
That anybody who was listening to Sweet Liberty
Was meant to be listening to Sweet Liberty
And that you would find it
If there was a message here for you
One person told me
They only listened to Sweet Liberty
To hear Alan What
That’s okay
And you can hear Alan What
Because he’s doing his own now
And
We’re not quite out of time
And I feel like I’m out of words here
And if I had a song to sing to you
I would not sing to you
Not sing to you
Play for you
We just have our one-minute warning
Here
There are probably things
That I wanted to say
Or that I wanted to say in a different way
If I think of it
I’ll make a note
And maybe bring it up
But don’t expect that
Another broadcast will be spent
On this issue
And folks, thank you for being here tonight
And I will be back
Next Wednesday night
Barring any unforeseen events
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You’re listening to Jackie Petru and Sweet Liberty
And now, here’s your host, Jackie Petru
Do I have you?
Yeah
It isn’t past nine o’clock, is it?
It’s right on now
Well, maybe we’re not going to have our intro tonight
All right, ladies and gentlemen
Give it
Yes, are you there?
I am
Did you just hear a squeal?
That’s real, yeah
I hope we’re on the air, I don’t know if we are or not
But folks, if we are on the air, thank you for tuning in tonight to Sweet Liberty
And I am Jackie Petru, your hostess
Normally when I dial us in, I can hear the commercial before and then the opening song, Sweet Liberty song
And that’s why I’m not so sure I’m on the air
Sweet Liberty is Wednesday, and it is the 27th of September in the year 2006
And Alan, what is our guest this evening?
Alan, thanks for being here tonight
Yes, it’s a pleasure, I was forgetting myself what month it was
We were, you really?
Yeah, but you were thinking about what month is it?
Well, it goes so fast
It does go so fast, so it’s raining there in Canada, it’s raining here in beautiful Pennsylvania
And that just seems, I just for some reason felt that we were going to be having a very beautiful Indian summer
I was looking forward to it with all the rain because other than the first two weeks in May
It’s never been dry here Alan
This whole last weekend beyond that, it was raining and it’s been pouring pretty well all day steadily
But mind you, when the clouds are breaking up sometimes in between rain showers
I can see the higher clouds which are the trails of the aircraft
The chemtrails, uh-huh
They’re still above the lower clouds, yeah?
Uh-huh
Yeah, so they’re laying it on thick
Well, I don’t know if I mentioned this on the air before, but maybe I have
I do know that I repeat myself, but you never know who you’ve told something to
When you’re talking to a lot of people
Here in Pennsylvania, we moved in in late 95, but when we were looking at the property
She said that they were in a drought condition
And had been for a couple three years up here in northern Pennsylvania north-central
And I asked her if the farmers had irrigation
And she said no because they’d never needed it
And then it was back, I believe, maybe 2000
I don’t know how, I mean the time, no it wasn’t
It was 2002 towards the end of the term, the legislative session
Uh, they passed a water bill
And the water bill they passed was a real dozer, I mean it was just loaded
Which will be, of course, encouraging the local, the townships and the counties to start monitoring well water
And because of the drought, I mean that’s why everything was in the bill
Because it had been in a drought condition for so many years
Right after, well it was a beautiful, it was, 2002 was a beautiful fall
It was a beautiful, warm, dry, gorgeous leaf, you know, all of the different types of trees
Just awesome, and that dog on bill got passed
And it was spring of 2003 when it started raining here
My garden has been drowned out, well two years in a row
And this year I was never able to get it in, Alan
So as soon as they got that bill passed, and if anybody listening thinks that that’s just a coincidence, folks
You gotta start opening your eyes, opening your ears
And don’t believe it just because you hear it, but start doing your own research
You know Alan, that’s the thing that gets me is when somebody
And I’m not talking about our listeners, I don’t think they’d be listening to this broadcast
If you know they were deniers going into denial, but people you will talk to intelligent people
Will say, I don’t believe that, that’s not possible
I had a friend here, a very intelligent person
We were talking, I was mentioned weather control, he said that’s impossible
The weather’s too big, it can’t be controlled
And I was telling him some things, he said you’re not going to convince me
I said, no I don’t want to convince you Greg, but I hope that you’re curious enough
To maybe say, well I’d like some information on that, I’d like you to prove it
You know, be curious enough to ask for some documentation, I’ll be glad to provide it
He didn’t say no thank you, he just dropped the subject
And Alan, that is, what is that?
When a person doesn’t even say, are you serious?
Oh come on, give me a break, prove it to me
What is it?
Well it’s a person who has, well the reality, they’ve been trained to believe in
And it’s augmented by their growing up watching the Six o’clock news
And really believing it’s there to do all their thinking for them
And if it’s not mentioned on the mainstream music, can’t be true
Oh boy, okay
That’s how simple it is
So 50 years ago the public were suspicious of media
Because they knew media in the different papers, left wing, right wing and up and down and all the rest of it
They all had their little spins and agendas or their ways of covering stories
According to their particular view on things
And they also knew they were all private organizations you see
And big money was always viewed with suspicion
Especially anything to do with the mind and information has to do with the mind
But today they’ve been so well, they’ve been brought up with television
I mean, honestly brought up with it as weaned them, as weaned them till they’re adults
And Brzezinski said that
Weaned, did you say weaned them?
Yeah, that’s right
They’re probably their babies sat by the television
And they go to kindergarten and even have, look at kindergarten
Schools now, they all have the satellite antennas on top
So they can watch their favorite cartoons and so on and get the same indoctrination
And so, and again with the standardization of all education
Worldwide, it’s not just nationals worldwide
You bounce your ideas off anybody across the planet
And if they come back partying at six o’clock news
And it suits your views then you judge yourself sane
That’s how we judge ourselves, sane by bouncing ideas off other people
I see
So if they have a six o’clock news version of the world
And everybody else does, then we must all be right, that’s what they think
But really Brzezinski said that himself, in his own book
The public would shortly be unable to reason for themselves
They can only parrot what they’ve been downloaded with on the previous nights news
You know, I saw a quote, sometimes when I’m pulling up emails
I think about making notes just to mention some of these things that I get
There was a statement by Brzezinski
And I don’t recall if there was a date
But in my mind as I was reading it, I was under the impression that it was a fairly recent quote
And he was talking about, I ran in a favorable way
And I thought, what in God’s name is going on?
And there were articles, because I subscribe online
Washington Post, New York Times, and the Toronto Star
And USA Today, and I just do a rundown
Just take a look at their, you know, take a look at the headlines
And there’s their, I’ll tell you what it reminds me of
They’re just saying a lot of stuff now
And then you try to figure out, OK, why are they airing this?
And I think back of the protocols where it’s said that, you know, the people will want peace
And rest from the terror and the chaos
And they’re going to, in the protocols
I wish I had it handy, I could read it because I’ve got it bookmarked
But basically they said that the people are going to get so irritated, so angry
And with their government
That they won’t, in other words, to hell with it all
And then they’ll accept our international super government
Yeah, they try to break the will down through anxiety
And they understand, except on so many tests on animals and just as many humans as well
That we can only take so much stress continuously
Especially when it’s not resolved, you know, unresolved stress
It builds up until you end up like Pavlov’s dog
You just sit in the middle and you shake because you can’t see a way around it all
And that’s what they want, then when a savior comes along
With an answer and says, there, there, don’t worry, go back to sleep, I’ll take care of it
Yes
We do
The king desperate of the blood of Zion
That’s their, they said it’ll be the pope of the world
Oh well, they can have their pope as well
They’re king desperate of the blood of Zion
So you see, they’re now, so much is coming out in the media
That it’s making people angry with the US Congress
With the economic system, of course
But the blame is starting to be laid now
On these agencies and these individuals
And it, I believe that that’s what they’re doing
Yeah, they also like to almost, well it’s back between the crisis
Until we were off guard and then hit you fast again
Fast and hard with something else
And we’re glopping down on this roller coaster
And that’s another technique of breaking you down too
Nobody, I don’t believe anybody was expecting what happened on September 11th, 2001
They said the ones that planned it
Right, exactly
It was a shock, I was in shock, literally
And I thought about this because there’s always these threats of nuclear
You know, they’re gonna nuke Iran and they’re gonna nuke Syria
And Israel is using nuclear weapons now
And I think that fear is being put into people
And they’ll do something totally off the beaten path
That will be terrible
And shocking the people and throw everybody back into a state of paralysis, I guess you would say
And it probably won’t be a nuclear explosion
And I pray that it doesn’t
But there’s been too many threats of it
I guess that’s what I’m thinking
Oh, I know, they cry of wolf so many times
They cry of wolf
And you remember too that in the early 90s the Cold War was over
Yeah, the Cold War, I know
During the whole Cold War we never had
And most countries never had any practice for anything
There was no real setup during rehearsals in public for a nuclear war
With ambulances and firemen and police and military
And in 95, across Canada and other countries as well
Even in small towns in the last place I lived in
It’s a potato town basically
I went in one day and in 95, and there’s this emergency response drill
With people as actors pretending they were hurt and injured
And firemen near, police there, military there
And I asked one of the guys, what’s all this?
This is all a practice in case someone put a bomb out of outside Baxter’s laboratory
And I thought, what’s going on here?
I said, this is the Cold War, it’s over
We never had this kind of drill during the Cold War
What’s happening?
And then of course Margaret Thatcher
Just a few years before it
In her speech at Massey Hall in Toronto
Which was entitled The New World Order
Her appearance there
In the newspapers
She said the next war will be on fundamentalist religions
Probably beginning in the Middle East
And I thought it all falls into place
In 9-11 came along after Brzezinski’s book
The Grand Chess Board
And they get what they want
So it was all planned long before
I don’t know if you’ve ever read Benjamin Friedman’s talk
I think it was in 1963 or 1960
It was in the 1960s
And if you read that speech
You’d think the speech was being given
Well maybe was given a couple of three years ago
Because he said, right now as I’m speaking
They’re planning a war, a long war in the Middle East
And they will be using your children
As the cannon fodder
I’m very proud to hear about that
Before World War II
I know
Right when you say Margaret Thatcher said it
A couple of years ago
It’s been in the making a long time
I’m not going to go into religion here
You seem to want to stay away from that
I don’t mean religion either
I’m talking spiritual issues
But I got an email today
And it was kind of an overview of a book
That was written, God is a lie
Or something like that
And I said this when I was writing
Jewish persecution
That it appears to me that
I was using Christianity as an example
Founded to be destroyed
In other words, there’s so many lies in religion
That when people begin to find out the truth
The lies that they’ve been told
I said my concern is that
And what I believe they probably hope for
Is that people will throw the baby out with the bathwater
And this book is saying there is no God
And you see, he goes back into the Old Testament
And he mentions how Jehovah lovingly
Commanded that Abraham should kill Isaac
His beloved son
And the way the article about it is written
The guy makes a case for people
To say there is no God or creator
In other words, it’s science
And then this whole universe is physical
And all the laws of the universe
Are the laws of physics, see
So there is no higher being
And I thought when I was reading it
And he brought all the religions in
It wasn’t just Christianity
It’s just like this, you see
There is no, quote, God
And that, above all things
In my mind would leave people
At least in their hearts
Well, they believe in the religion
That they were born into
Or that they settled on
They believe that they want to hang on
To whatever it is that they’ve been given
And not question it
And there are people now
Who are just totally confused
It’s like what is truth, what is there?
Yeah, that’s why they’re doing all the searching
And going into all the different groups
And following gurus
It’s something to fill the gap
It’s been left, the whole has been left really
And of course the whole new age cult
Or whatever they’re involved in
Which is all new age
Was designed by the same people
Who control the old religion
Well, the new age, yeah
But we have to be careful there
That, you know, just anybody who
Anybody who finally rejects
Religions that were made by man
And begins to seek the higher spiritual truth
It doesn’t necessarily mean their new age
Not much if they follow the same formulas
I don’t know, well what formulas
Would you be talking about?
Well, there’s always a master, like a guru
Okay
And now guru in India
Is also a god, by the way
Your personal guru is a god
I see
And it’s the same thing here
They created the new age movement in the 60s
Really pushed it in the 60s
From the top down
And it was sung to the music
To the true music and so on
They set the Beatles off
To get it all, the ball rolling
And sure enough all the followers follow
That’s what followers do
They can’t think for themselves
And they want these guys, our heroes are doing this
There must be a truth in there
And that got the Maharishi set up
All the magazines went in the action
At the same time, all the newspapers
Just how wonderful it was
And at the same time you had guys being interviewed
Pop stars and rock stars
Who were stoned out of their skulls
Doing interviews on mainstream TV
Falling off chairs
And then the interviewers were laughing
Or TV, he aren’t the naughty type thing
Because it was meant to get all the youngsters involved
If they made this curvatureal change
From the old religions into the new
And the Scottish Rite of Freemasons
The high ones, the Rite of Perfection
Their magazine was called
And you age back in the 1950s
And they said they would bring in
And you age with a movement
And that was it
I don’t know if you’re aware of this
And I don’t know how you feel about it
But when you talk about people
They just find someone else to follow
You’ve become in a sense a guru to a lot of people
I wonder how you…
If you’re aware of that
People that I talk to
It’s almost as though you’re next to the messiah here
You know what I’m saying?
Well, I tell everybody
They’ve got to check everything out for themselves
And it isn’t that you show them
Or point them in a way
And see, here’s a formula
And people unfortunately are trained
In regular religions too
To go through formulas
Yeah, formulas
Everything’s practical and so on
So they’ve been trained in formula, ritual
And it’s a very human thing
To almost want this mass movement of ritual
When you say ritual, would you…
That’s a real broad…
Would you…
I’ll predetermined
Physical movements with
Sequential, verbal responses
To phrases that are put out there
Just like they do in the churches
Who wants a game of dominoes, not me
With that type of thing
You made a statement one time
And this was back some time in the spring
We were talking
In fact, I had read something that
You had said to Effie and
It was so important that I had transcribed it
And read it
And you said, well, I…
That’s only meant for one person
And you know, you said I talked to people
One on one
My concern of course is, and as I said
You can’t talk to everybody
Not every single person
So to withhold truth
That you know are true
It saddens me for them
You have to though, you have to
You can’t give ultimate truth to people
Unless they’re prepared
To see what you’re giving them
Because if you don’t prepare them
Individually they can’t see what you’re giving them
What you said to Effie though
Was something that you had said on the air
Several years even prior to that
You said it on the air
But then you said that
You talk to people one on one
And you’re deprogramming them
And then you reprogram them
And you know, I didn’t…
That kind of slid by me
When you said it and then I got to thinking about it
Who has the right to program anybody?
The thing is, all you can do is start them off
You start them off and you let them
Search out themselves
But is that what you would…
Most people what they do
Reprogramming?
No
Most people what they do
Is they choose a religion
They choose the religion they’d already wanted
That’s what the whole New Age movement says
That they go shopping for religion
Really, they’re looking for the one
They’ve already chosen
They’ve already picked an advance in there
And they want something with no boundaries
Number one
No rights or wrongs
Or don’t do’s or do’s
Is that part of the New Age movement?
Yeah
So in other words, the New Age movement
Does not teach that as we so so shall we reap
Oh, they’ll say certain things like karma
But it’s almost like a credit card system
Where you can do now and pay later
Okay
Yeah, the karma thing
I mean, the whole New Age movement
Is taken directly from Hinduism
All of it
The channeling
The different types of meditation with a chance
Repetition and chance
Bringing in different guides
Or power animals or whatever it happens to be
People call it shamanism here
But they have the same thing in India
But you don’t reject shamanism, do you?
Well, unless you…
Why shouldn’t you reject it?
Number one
Well, I ask you that because you have spoken with
The shamans
Some of the shamans that have come to visit you
It’s just almost like you’re saying
Don’t you accept the religion?
No, no
Is shamanism a religion?
Yeah
Okay, well, what about the shamans
Who have the inner knowledge and the wisdom
Because there are some
And you’ve spoken with them
The ones who have any kind of real, real, real insight
Into things
Have been moving away from society
And people over the last ten years
Right
Because they don’t want to be around people anymore
They don’t want visitors
And now you have the tourist ones
They can go and pay your money
And you’ll leave some tobacco smoke in your face
Yeah, and see, I’m not referring to that
I’m referring to the ones that you’ve spoken to
Seemingly very, very wise
Oh, yeah
And you always find as well that they’re pretty
You like their solitude
And I think that’s the only way you can go
Because we’re so bombarded
We’ve never had a period in history
We are so bombarded from the minute you get up
To go to bed with electronic sound
Yeah
You know, people actually switch on the radio
First thing in the morning
And the topics to fill their head are given right to them
They have no say in the topics, it’s downloaded into them
They drive to work listening to it
Sometimes at work they even listen to it
And the same thing going back home
Then they watch TV for the rest of the night
Their whole waking time
Is taken up with someone else, different people
Professionals at that, companies
Broadcasting thoughts and ideas and opinions
Right into their mind
And they don’t even participate
And the answers themselves are bombarded
So, people today
A lot of people, I think you mentioned it yourself
And you some, they can’t go to sleep without
The TV or the radio on
A lot of people are becoming that way now
Yes, I know
They’re scared stiff of silence
And then we’re talking
Probably
I, from the conversations I’ve had
With so many listeners over the past ten years
And letters that I’ve received from them
I find Alan that we all seem to have a lot in common
As the people who have listened to Sweet Liberty
And I’m not saying every one of them
But it seems that the people who began listening
And stuck in there
Even when WWCR was sabotaging
The heck out of our reception
They’ve always been
More into natural foods
Gardening, if they don’t garden
Then they seek, you know, more natural foods
They’ve never been big TV watchers
Most of them I don’t think even went to college
And they’re just, it’s, you know
It’s like maybe it’s a magnet
The saying birds of a feather flock together
But I believe that the people who listen
To Sweet Liberty are here because
They are seeking the truth and they’re not looking
For another guru
Or not looking for another religion
But in their hearts
Truly want to know what is what
What is truth
And we have to take a right here
I just want to differentiate
Between the majority of the listeners
And the people in the back
You know, you were describing
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With a fiction, haven’t we Alan?
I know, there’s so many of them
Excuse me
It occurs to me that
It’s obvious I seem to have a head cold here
I was wondering for the dot or the vinegar
No, not the vinegar
This doggone thing started yesterday
At least it’s staying in my head
And that’s a blessing
You know, for me, of course
Because that silly lung thing I get
But no, it’s just I’m very, very nasal
I remind you a lot of people
I get it too with the rains
At this time of year
Really?
I never mind the stuff they’re adding to it
But yeah, normally I get that anyway
Because a lot of the leaves are dying
And some of them turn to powder
Yeah?
There’s mold out there
Isn’t that kind of like an allergy, though?
Yeah
I’ve never at least had any known allergies
I think this is just a head cold
You know, I remember
Maybe a couple weeks ago or whatever
I started to say something
And you said you didn’t really want to get into it
But Alan, in today’s
In today’s
In today
I can’t think of anything
More important today
Than for people to begin to
Have an understanding of exactly what it was
That you said to Effie
And that you had said on the air
Sometime back in 99
Because when people realize that
They’ve been lied to
It’s this conversation that I’ve had with listeners
That are so concerned
Confused Alan
Oh, they have realized that
The religious most of
Well, religion itself
There are truths in the Bible
There are truths that are given
In every religion
Because otherwise they could never keep the people
You know
Taking it more
But I wonder if you
Because you had said it
Just exactly almost
The way you said it to Effie
And when I read it you said
You’re opposing people’s religions
And it’s only for a one on one thing
And I get my wondering is
Why was it okay to say it publicly
To a shortwave audience
And we have people that are just
Spiritually sloundering
And I’m not saying that I have answers for people
I can only share with people
My understandings and experiences
That I’ve had, as you’ve said in the past
And I know that it’s so we can believe
We believe by faith
But we know by experience
It’s the only thing
The problem with any experience
Is that it’s unverifiable to anyone else
Exactly
But it’s something that we ourselves know
But my question is
Maybe you could explain this to me
Because you did say it
And then we have a whole new audience today
In fact, the audience that you said it to
By far and look
Basically were fundamentalist Christians
You know, the old New Testament
Every word is gospel truth
And you said it identically to that
And then when I read it on the air
You said it’s only meant for one individual
Have you had second thoughts about that
Or that’s what
Well, I’ve watched over the last few years
And I’ve talked to many, many people
I’ve even come back to nine to eight
And I know the ones who
Can understand on a particular level of understanding
That the basics of what’s happening
And the wise things are happening
But also it’s…
There’s more to it than just the purely material world
That everybody’s terrified of losing
And they are, you know
Exactly
There are people phoning me up now
Who you’ve definitely feared, nice people
Who are phoning me up and asking me
In desperation how they can
Get their money out of the country
Before it collapses and all this kind of stuff
And I’m saying to them
Look, I’d never, ever advise you on that
Because it’s all nonsense anyway
What’s happening is a global situation
And I said, it doesn’t matter what you move to where
I said the new system that’s supposed to come out of this one
Won’t be using money as you know it
You’ll be getting so many credits
And so will everyone else get the same amount every week
And you can’t save them up
They’re gone at the end of the week
However, they’re desperate about all of this
I’ll get ones phoning me about the draft
To try and get their sons out of the country
Well, that I can understand
Desperate, desperation
And to go into a spiritual side of things
You have to
They have to make their own personal decisions
Of course they do
I do understand that Alan
And many of the people you see
What they’re really wanting
Is to keep this system going
As it is and don’t get it
Don’t let it get any worse in their lifetime
Just stop it right now
You mean a lot of people that you talk to?
Yeah
Okay, well, that’s different
Because the conversations that I’ve had with people
Their concern is of a spiritual nature
And there is a lot of confusion
And you see the whole thing
What’s to hear, that’s earth to hear
It doesn’t matter what you go into
Or how many, if you go off to South America
And pop drugs to get some experience
It isn’t going to do you any good
As you wake up as yourself again
In the same old you and the same old body
Hopefully anyway
The next day
Wherever you go, there you are
That’s right
And so what you have is
This is where spirit and matter meet
This is the deciding place
And you can’t save one without the other
You see
This is the whole thing
In other words, you must act out
The thoughts that come to you
You must put into action
What is right through what you say
Is the spirit that comes to you
The quiet little inner you
That pushes, should I keep my mouth shut
And keep my head down
And just go along in the physical
Maybe they won’t notice me
But you know yourself
You’re coughing out
You have to act
Because whatever you do here
Is going to decide
If there is another life for you
Yeah
It’s all decided here
Yeah
And again, lots of people
If you start encouraging a spiritual side
You bring millions of people to you
So what they’re after really
Is complete escapism from here
That’s the problem
Complete escapism from here
You mean here in the physical?
That’s right
You wouldn’t be
The amount of the new ageers who follow me
Who’ve been to all the different groups
And spent, God knows
How many thousands of dollars in each one
They don’t want to look at the world at all
They really don’t want to look at the world
As though it didn’t concern them
Didn’t concern them
They’re in total denial
And that was part of the reason
The new age movement was created
So they wouldn’t participate
In decision making in the world
Yeah
Yeah
And that’s the problem if you encourage them
But when you say, wait, encourage them
It doesn’t have to be encouraging them
Into the new age, the religion
Not if you understand at the very beginning
That I wouldn’t impart anything to them personally
Unless I knew they were going to act on it
When you say act on it
Yeah
What act on what?
On ultimate truth
Is there a point having ultimate truth
And then sitting back and saying, well
It’s like a Christian scene
I’m fine, I would say
Ah, gotcha
In other words, it’s for them personally, not
Yeah, it’s like they’ll film that old song
This world is not my home
I’m just passing through
No, I don’t
That’s the old Christian song
No, I don’t
Well, that’s the same with the new age
They’re taking themselves out of the game here
And they don’t want to believe anything
There’s anything to do with them
In other words, when they see the killing
The wars, the torturing
When they see the minds of the children
Now this, it’s hard to believe
That they, do they say then
Oh, well, it’s okay, this isn’t all real
It doesn’t matter what they’re doing
To the children in the school
And that they’re losing their minds
And their soul, what is happening to the soul
We have discussed this before
You know, because it’s been thought in my mind
If it is, the mind is the gateway to the soul
And of course that is a statement attributed to Jesus
In the New Testament
Where he said fear not those who can kill the body
But fear those who can kill the body and the soul
And are you saying then
I guess I don’t know any new age people
Because I have never heard this
That this all means nothing just because
Oh, well, this is an illusion
Yeah, yeah, you get that from a lot of them
And I get so many of them who’ve literally
Their minds are so strung out
And they’re going to end up in psychiatry
And psychology and therapy
They’re turning me up out of desperation
I’ve spent countless hours in the form of different ones
They’ve been through this absolute hell
Called the new age
And so I would never, ever encourage anybody
To be promoted
Well, of course not, Alan
Of course not
But see, I wasn’t talking about the new age
I was talking about spiritual truth
Yeah
And that…
Well, see, a spiritual truth is a simple thing
Because it’s something
That everyone, maybe except the psychopaths
Everyone could relate to it, immediately
So do you…
So, okay
The spiritual truth, particularly that I’m thinking of
Is where you said
On the air to a very large
Short-waveless audience
Fundamentalist Christians
That within every individual
Is the spiritual force
Yes, they want to use it
Yes, exactly
And you said that the…
You know, the ones today
That we see, that we believe are in control
That there is force beyond them
I believe that
It’s been a sense
That there is a hidden power
That’s pushing all this
And it isn’t nice
But…
The people at least
Who are searching
And then they hear a mixed message
Because, you know, you’ve said
That within every individual
There is a spiritual force
And that these creatures
That are controlling in the background
Know it, they’re aware of it
And their greatest fear is that
Enough people will find out about it
Yeah, enough people
To understand
What they’re really doing
And that means they’ve gone through a process
Of reevaluating for themselves
That old thing called the meaning of life
For the purpose of life
Which is not the system that we’re living in
And when they realize that
And really, they’re not out to save a system
Because it wasn’t theirs to begin with
It was given to them
And when they’re willing to take a chance
Into the unknown
Then that they’re ready for it
Most people really, as I say
Want to save this system
Because it’s the only one they know
Even though it was given to them
Well, I’m speaking for those who have gone
Beyond that
And do realize it
And, you know
For myself
You and I have talked probably hundreds of hours
As I told you
From a little girl, my earliest memories
Laying in bed and quote
Talking to God at night
And asking a jillion questions
But there were certain things I knew
I knew
And then
Then I discovered
The knowing was there
It’s almost like
Sometimes you read something, Alan
And it’s
It
Strikes your memory
The memory maybe that we brought with us
Or the memory that is within us
And so
My search
Has progressed
As a result
Of reading, reading, reading, reading
The School of Metaphysics
I told you I was a student there
And I did have experiences
And they weren’t magical experiences
And they were
They were real
But I needed
At least for me
See, maybe it’s hard for you to relate to this
The memory is there
But it seems to take
Something
Something somebody says
Something you read
To bring that memory
Into your conscious knowing
Does that make sense
What I’m saying?
What it is
Is there
But you see, you have to be ready for it
You must have
You’ll probably experience something in your life
And suddenly it will come to you
Because it fits the moment
It actually matches the moment
Whereas you hadn’t had
That particular occurrence happened before
So that’s
Your life is supposed to be
A journey of constantly growing
The train does
Only in the last 40 years
40 or 50 years
Probably 40 years
The train does
That old people are of no value
And yet
Before that
People who were elderly had the wisdom
And the knowledge
To guide the young
And so they were looked up to with esteem
And they were revered
So they reversed that
And he said that
Maurice Strong said at their summit
They’d have to destroy the last vestiges of the family
And once that was gone
Then government, the state could dictate
Directly to the individual
And no one would be there
To stand up for the individual
The family would be gone
That was always the goal of government
Yeah
So yeah
It’s quite interesting that
Old men
Run this world
At least the visible ones that we see
Old men
To disregard elderly
And every other sphere
Yes, that is
Interesting isn’t it Alan?
Yeah, because they’re ancient
Oh yes
Do you believe that there are people
Living here
That have been here for maybe hundreds of years?
Yeah, I can tell you
It’s awful boring
No, that wasn’t a joke
Yeah, I know
Well, the reason I said that
You know, I was talking to Stephen Ames
He went into
Researching religions
And spiritual
Matters
Because he knew that there had to be something
You know, beyond what this
Is going on
What keeps driving it
I had a conversation one day and he said
I
I’m going to say something to you
And you’re probably going to think I’ve lost my mind
He said, I believe
That there are people here
Who’ve been here for hundreds of years
And
You know, it didn’t sound to me
Like he had lost his mind Alan
You know, with science
And with their longevity
Etc
David Suzuki
Who was one of the main spokesmen
For the big nation
Natural shows for brainwashing us into nature
Headed by
The World Wildlife Fund
And the United Nations
Who was a geneticist himself
Said on the CBC
National Television in Canada
About three or four years ago
It is we now have the capability
To stop the time clock
In the gene
To live to 500 years
Well, there you go
Whenever a truth
In this system is admitted
It’s already
A fact
So we always get
Third-hand news
So it’s not impossible
I know that
In the early 1900s
It cracked the genetic code then
Probably before then
Because Rutherford
Was the world’s most famous mathematician
And he was a guy
They pulled in to do all the measurements
For the Great Pyramids and so on
And his own memoirs
Mentioned that he was employed
In his last years
To work on genetics
Now, you would not employ a mathematician
To work on genetics if you hadn’t
Found the gene yet
It was only supposedly suspect then
So there’s little giveaways
That they’ve tracked about
Yeah
You know what
When you made a joke and said
It’s pretty boring
Who’s joking, man?
Who’s joking?
But not boring
But, oh my god
Who would want to be here
For 500 years, Alan?
Well, you certainly would never want to be here
For 500 years
If you were lived on the lower
Structure of society
Or a member of an elite
With perfect physical health
Living in the lap of luxury
Traveling the world
Do what you want
I can understand them
I can’t
I can’t
You know what, Alan?
No, I can’t
Because
There is something there
Within
That’s been buried and cut off
And anything you want to say
They
Are not alive
They are not living, Alan
If you cannot love
You cannot, you are not living
Yeah
And so I can’t
For the only love they have is for themselves
Exactly
No, I can’t understand
I mean, you know
To say, oh well
I can’t live in luxury
And I can be healthy forever
Sure, I’d like to be here for
I can’t
No, that wouldn’t be my cup of tea, Alan
And it wouldn’t be yours either
I don’t think
Well, I’ll tell you
There was a program just a few days ago
On the CBC
On the news, on the special report
And it was about some supposed
That a new treatment would inject fetal tissue
Into you to keep you young
And they were doing it
And I think it was China that were going to
Oh, they’ve been doing it?
Don’t you think they’ve been doing that for a long time?
Oh, they’ve been doing it
I think that’s with the brain stem
Research
I know
They make cocktails at them too
But the thing is, this woman
Had a, I don’t know how many faces she had
But she was very wealthy
Her face was so tight
That was hardly a wrinkle, she couldn’t close her eyes
And near she was off
To spend money to make her live longer
So there are people like that
I understand that, there are
But
And that cannibalism
I don’t care if he eats it, it’s injected into your
Whatever, that is cannibalism
Exactly
Oh, yes it is cannibalism
And you know what, that’s in the Old Testament
It’s one of the curses
Well, not only that
But it’s one of the curses of Jehovah
You know, if you do my statutes
Yeah
There were, you know, a few paragraphs
About all the physical things
Material things you’re going to get
If you don’t do my statutes
I think there’s about a page and a half
Allen
And one of them is
Amongst all the ugly, nasty,
terrible things
Is that
The parents will eat their own children
That’s the curse of Jehovah
In the Old Testament
Well, you know what I got to thinking about
The
Genetically modified food
They’re using human DNA
Human genes, they’re using
They’re using it
Animal genes
And I thought about this, I thought
You know what, they’re doing it
They’re doing it
We become cannibals
When we eat the genetically modified
Fruits and vegetables
Or you get your modern inoculations
They don’t use animals now
To grow the viruses and so on
They actually use
Fetal tissue
Fetal tissue
I’m injected into you with the viruses
Under the guise of science
Sure
That’s the new priesthood with the white coat
Sure
And people don’t stop to think
What they’re actually doing
Because we can train to believe anything
Which is scientific is good
And it’s the biggest con out there
Really
It’s a total belief system
Even though they keep changing their theories
On the same topics every few years
They still persist that it is a science
Yes
And the value
To this conversation
Of what you’re saying right now
Is for people who may
Just be newly tuned in
That we’re not just talking about
Some
Out there who are saying
They’re doing it
They’re doing it
And it can be proven
And it can be
Discovered, yes?
Absolutely
There’s no big detective
Work to find this kind of stuff out
It’s a horror story
Just looking back
Yes it is, that’s why I think
It is important for you and I
When we do these broadcasts
To bring in
Every time I say this
You say well I’m not going to be a cheerleader
For this world
I’m not talking about cheerleading
I’m talking about
The importance
Of at least
Discussing
And sharing with our listeners
There’s so much more
There’s so much more
In this physical world
And there’s so much beyond
Religion
And I’ve got to
If they want to be taught something
They must put it into practice
Hey let me ask you a question
If we could do tomorrow night
At the same time 9pm
Could you come on?
Oh goody
I think we’re going to be able to do this folks
I had talked to Nicholas
And he said to let him know
And I am going to give him a call
I would like to pick this conversation up
Tomorrow
Where we left off the feed
Because Alan in my heart
To be there couldn’t be anything more important
That we could share with our listeners
Thank you
And ladies and gentlemen
See you tomorrow night
And baby Alan and I
I’ll be back on Sunday
Good night
Good night Alan
Good night
Thank you