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Chris & Andre




Is it Warren in North Carolina there?
Hello?
Hello?
Yes.
Hey, I’ve been a big fan of yours for a while and for about maybe about a year and a half, maybe two years now and I’d sent you an email actually and I don’t want to try to come down to
too hard, but I’ve come across information, who is Glenn Keeley?
Glenn Keeley, Glenn Keeley is a Canadian.
Well, yeah, because it seems like you got a lot of your work from Glenn Keeley.
You think I’ve got a lot of my work from Glenn Keeley?
I’m starting to question you now, with your own life.

Is this what you phoned in for, was it?

Well, yeah, because this is stuff that I really, I mean, that I feel like I really want to know, I mean, I’m not trying to come down on you, I’m just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Well, I spoke to Glenn a few years back in the 90s, and I met him once in the 90s, one day, and I haven’t talked to him since.

He’s holding something up here, and tell me if he’s familiar here, and he pulled this stuff all on my internet right now, and I’ll just do that again.
Glenn, back with more after this break.



I ask them to use me, but don’t abuse me, don’t pretend, and don’t fool the public that you are me. If you do, I will come down on you. And I have to hunt you people down, because I can go weeks without getting an order. So here I am, giving you all this information out, and nothing comes back. There’s authors living off the information I put out, and I got that from an author’s society who told me that many of the members are making their life living off. Most of them won’t even mention where they got all the information.
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All right, I'm joined here with Andre from the Outlaw Forum.


Andre is the founder of the Outlaw Forum, and involved in several controversies now.

I think we've had our agreements and disagreements in the past, but this is a really interesting situation here.
Andre, you wrote on the internet, and this is a really interesting situation here.
Andre, you wrote an article about Alan Watt.

I know that your forum has been known for a long time, but for the support of Alan Watt.
So it was a very interesting article to come from your pen or keyboard, whatever.
So I just kind of wanted to see where you are coming from, if you want to just kind of take us all from the beginning and see what the deal is here.

Yes. Hello, Chris.

I have been looking at this information, this so-called truth movement, for a pretty long time now.
I have been through all the different big characters that we all know who are presenting this information with various spins on it.
And I got to the point where I was very disillusioned, and it was really just felt like these people were not really going anywhere,
not moving the information, just kind of keeping us neutralized.
Anybody who is beginning to wake up to this information is being neutralized by these people who have been set up as our leaders.
I came across Alan Watt a couple years ago, and he seemed to be much more genuine and real.
At that time, not on a network, he had done some short-wave broadcast with a woman named Jackie Petru.
I really liked the guy. He was presenting information that I had never been exposed to before, citing sources that I began reading some of these books.

Nobody else had mentioned these books before that I had ever heard of.

Many books by people like Bertrand Russell and H.G. Wells, people who talked about H.G. Wells.
People who were involved in the agenda, obviously people who talked about Carol Quigley.
But I began reading these books, and the information was extremely compelling, and he was offering a sort of new spin on things that I was really able to connect with.

I started my forum after that. I mean, I had my website for a while, but I started my forum after I had begun to get into him.
There was a member, Vic, who, in Victus, was his name.
He was a fan of Tesarian, and then he came on my forum, and I was talking about Alan Watt posting his stuff.
He started listening to Alan, and one day he called in to Alan's show and said the name of my forum, and at that point a lot of people who listened to Alan Watt started showing up.
I think when you type Alan Watt forum into Google, we are still the first result.
So I think people probably found it that way.
It's interesting when in Victus did call, it was edited out of the posting when Alan uploaded this show to his website.
That was initially a little bit confusing to me because I didn't understand why he would be trying to keep people away from my forum.
If he went there, he would see that we were all supporting him. Why would he be against discussion of his material?
Then, as things went on, he started mentioning forums and talking about how forums are all run by government agents.
They are just there to make people fight with each other.
To a certain degree, I don't think all forums are run by government agents, especially not ones that are obviously small.
The thing about causing infighting, when you can't sit down with somebody or even hear their voice over a phone.
Andre and I had a few technical difficulties. We lost the conversation here, I think we lost it a few other times.
He lost his flow, but I think he recovered well.

A member of my forum created this sentientcentinal.com.
Alan Watt's site in Europe is called alanwattcentientcentinal.eu.

Instead of contacting this guy and saying he was uncomfortable with that site name, this guy created as a homage to Alan Watt.
He was 18 years old.

Alan Watt, instead of contacting him and saying I'm uncomfortable with you using this domain name that is similar to mine.
He went on the air and started attacking the guy, saying that he was a government agent trying to pretend to be him and lead people into forums and anti-Semitism.
Which he has since repeatedly slandered me as an anti-Semite.
I don't even really understand what that word means, but it was then clear that he was talking about my forum.
So he was starting with the threats at that point.
He then threatened another member of my forum who created another fan site where he actually was selling t-shirts with Alan Watt's face on him, which was a pretty bad idea.

But again, the guy is a government agent.
He says some comment that the government was monitoring his emails and knew that he was planning to make t-shirts.
So just at that time, the government comes out with a site selling t-shirts.
I don't think he actually believes this.

He's not stupid, but you have something?

Is this when your questions about him began or how did that all start?
Had you already thought about that by this time?
Yeah, I certainly had questions about him.
My questions began, as I say in the article, which is available on my website outlawjournalism.com,
that he stated that we should not talk in public and share information with other people because there are spies everywhere.
And if we do, they will come and get us.
He breathes into his listeners this extreme form of paranoia.
And when you're finding out about this information, you are very susceptible to that because this is all very scary what is happening in the world.
And when you have somebody who you view as an authority telling you that if you are speaking out about this, then they're going to come and get you, then you're really unlikely to.
And it became very suspicious to me at that point what exactly this guy was doing.
It was actually even on, when he was on Alex Jones' show, Alex confronted him about that and said, you know, I don't agree with you about this.
And he defended it. He said we shouldn't be talking to people.
So that's also, I mean, we were talking earlier about whether or not the guy is, you know, a government agent or just out to make an easy buck off of vulnerable people.
If he was out for the money, you would think that he would want people to go out and spread the information so he would get more listeners and thus more donations and book sales.
So there's other issues about that and we should go into those here in a little bit, but certainly it really started heating up when Glenn Keely came into the picture.

So describe how that all went down.

Yes, yes.
A caller called into Alan Watts' show on, I believe it was December 15th.

The link is in my article and the video that you made, Chris, has a clip of the clip of the call.
It's still available on the RBN archives, but he edited it out of his own, when he posted the podcast on his own site, the MP3, where a guy calls in and says, who is Glenn Keely?
Alan Watts says, Glenn Keely?
He's a Canadian.
Yep.
So the caller is obviously really nervous.
He states that he's been a fan of Alan's for a long time, but that he's come across his information and he has to ask about it.
And Alan Watts starts trying to intimidate him and he says, it looks like you've gotten all of your work from this guy.
So he edited that out and then somebody came on my forum and posted this reference to this deleted call.
And we looked up Glenn Keely.

He's got about four different websites and he posts regularly in an email group.
And it became very, very painfully clear that Alan Watts had not just borrowed ideas from this guy, but totally plagiarized him.
I mean, this whole thing to do with this coding of language that Alan Watts presents more in his books, his copyrighted, heavily copyrighted books than he does on his radio show.

This entire concept was lifted directly from Glenn Keely's work, as well as the stuff in his books about troglodytes and this homophroditic agenda, ancient genetic engineering, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So there were actually pictures of the covers.

The covers of Glenn Keely is something he put out called the Keely Paper.
And the covers of the books is all that's available in image form on Keely's site and like three or four of them Alan Watts had photocopied and put in his book.
So this is incredible.

We were presently working on getting the Keely papers.
I personally believe that probably everything in these books was actually photocopied from Keely.
After I put my article out, you came with the clip of Glenn Keely talking to someone.
I mean, I never figured out exactly who that was, but where Glenn Keely explains that Alan Watts would call him up repeatedly and press him for information and that he subscribed to his paper and then it became apparent that Alan Watts had stolen his information and was distributing it for a profit without giving Keely any credit whatsoever and in fact removing the man's name from his radio broadcast.
Well, I spoke to Glenn a few years back in the 90's and I met him once in the 90's one day and I haven't talked to him since.
And I could hear by the way you talk, obviously it sounds like Alan Watts really did riff you off.
Alan Watts called me for weeks on end to pick my brain.
Alan Watts bought a newspaper subscription, read it and copied material from it.
He never, I'm told, gave me any credit for having done the originator of all the ideas.
However, that doesn't matter to me.
I'm not in this for money. He might be in it for money.
And again, you know, people's critiques could say, well, you know, they could share information and Keely said, hey, you know, he was essentially cool with it.
He said he's not in it to make money.

So, but then you do have the issue of, as you said, removing the caller's thing, but also clearly in that clip with the caller, he says that, oh, well, I met Glenn Keely, you know, once in the 90's one day.
He says one day and they never spoke to him again.
I mean, that's what he says in that clip.

There's all that information that, yes, he met him once one day in the 90's, never spoke to him again.
So, you have that issue there and obviously there's an effort to cover it up to some degree.
So, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, so he's lying about it, whatever the case, even if he was given permission to use this work, which though Glenn Keely said, you know, he wasn't going to sue him about it, or he wasn't upset about it even.
He certainly didn't say that he gave him all this information for the purpose of Alan Watt putting it into books and selling it for an outrageous amount of money.
I mean, these books are like 30 pages long and he sells them for like $30 each.
So, and let me be clear too, as you asked about that clip, I want to just tell people how that clip came to my knowledge.
It was an interesting thing on Skype, which is like an instant messaging and what we're talking on right now.
There is a guy that has been actually asking to talk with me on Skype and, you know, we just never have been able to connect, you know, times and everything wasn't working out, but he's just a guy that's, you know, looking for the truth about everything.
And so he IMS me and says, have I heard of Glenn Keely?
He had apparently heard your interview with, I guess, on another show or something like that.
And so he knew to be asking about Alan Watt and stuff.
And he went, found Keely's site, actually got, talked to Keely, had an hour conversation with him and asked him those questions and Keely flat out said that quote.

So that literally just came out of nowhere as far as confirmation, which is something that I was hoping for because, you know, until, you know, either Alan addressed the issue or, you know, we had some kind of information from Keely.
I didn't really feel all that great about doing it.
But with that, it's like, okay, some something's real fishy here.
It was divine providence.
It was.
It was.
So go ahead and continue.
Yes.
So after, before I wrote the article, after I started talking about these issues on my forum, you know, Alan went on his show and began making more threats.
It was extremely predictable that he would, that he would play it like this.
It's, it just seems to be in his nature.
So he went on his show on RBN and said, called me Andrew, which is the name of my birth certificate.
I've never been called that.
My name's Andre.
I don't know why I guess it's short for Andrew.
I never really understood it.

But he's acting, you know, it's by saying my name Andrew that is on, you know, all my driver's license on my birth certificate that he's able to somehow get background information on people.
But, but he says, he says that this, that my forum is run by government agents in an experiment running some type of experiment to try and destroy him and discredit him.
And that we are making death threats against him.
He says that, that we are making death threats threatening to kill him and his dog.
He says that I am leading a mob trying to kill him and his dog.
I mean, it's totally insane.
It makes absolutely no sense.
He then is attempting to silence me by doing that.
I mean, apparently.
And he says that the cops are on my forum that he's called the cops because I'm, I'm leading a mob and the cops will soon be coming for me or something.

It makes absolutely no sense.

If someone is threatening his life, he needs to through emails apparently because we're not doing it on the forum.
If someone is sending him emails saying I'm a member of outlaw forum and I'm going to kill you and your dog, then he needs to instead of going on his air threatening people, going on the air threatening people.
He needs to forward the emails to the authorities who can deal with whoever is making these threats in a proper manner.
Clearly, if this is, and it very much looks like it is a job of some, some very serious, you know, plagiarism stuff.
I mean, that's really his only option is to go on the offensive.
Yes.
Yes.

This is this is what he has done attacking me and apparently trying to make people afraid of the forum.
You know, and then I've seen all these people after I wrote the I wrote the article in response to this because I don't know.
Apparently he got a pretty shoddy psychological profile on me, but you know, I'm not intimidated by by bizarre threats of sickening the cops on me or, you know, whatever he's going to send quote friends to my house.
I'm, you know, that just tends to make me angry rather than scared.
Well, there's so much stuff to talk about here, especially kind of the things that have been developing later.
You know, I just the cuff here one of the things that really got me was at the end of that clip and, you know, of the of the video when he's talking about, you know, this is why the elites are justified in in what they do, you know, it's like this is why it's coming is
because some amongst you are, you know, whatever, you know, whatever he said, but it was like such a elitist thing to say.
I was like, whoa.
Obviously, he clearly despises his own listeners, which is totally bizarre.
I mean, just like when when we were when we were supporting him, everybody on my forum was supporting him and instead of, you know, just even instead of ignoring us if it bothered him that we were supporting.
I mean, he started making threats.
I mean, it's just well, let's talk about some of these other other things here.
I don't know.

Could you just break down some of the issues that I don't know, I had issues with different etymology things and like things like that.
Is there any other things that over the years have struck you as interesting?
I know there's kind of like this weird hypnotic thing that goes on, but I've definitely talked to a lot of people that have been, you know, really, really taken in by the guy.
And it's almost like anything else.
I mean, it just seems like it's it's calculated to some degree that could be just, you know, just riffing there.
But any thoughts on all that?
Yeah, it's like a cult.
It's what's called an audience cult.
I mean, he he draws listeners in.
And I believe he is using some type of NLP.
Some I mean, hypnotic speeches is monotone voice droning.
I mean, it does put you into almost a trance state.
And he repeats the same things over and over and over again.
And his main premise is that we are so far gone that there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop this.
He avoids also any any discussion of any type of human spirituality, which I don't I don't prescribe to any any religion per se.
But I do believe personally, it is my belief that the only way we as a people as as humanity are going to be able to oppose what is happening right now is through some type of some type of spiritual spirituality, some type of force that resides inside of us.
And I just don't.

I don't think that when you leave that out and just drone on and on and on about how hopeless everything is and how we have no chance and we're all going to die and they're going to put us, I mean,
clearly, that could have a definite reason for that that part of the agenda, just to kind of put everybody to sleep.
I mean, it definitely has its use in that regard.

I tend to think, you know, there does seem to be a calculated effort against a, you know, a particular type, a particular religion, namely Christianity.
It's the common denominator that I've, and I'm sure you've noticed with all the all the gurus out there, you know, they will concede literally every conspiracy in the book, but that's the one that they all trip over themselves with different, you know, non matching
up lies about, you know, you know, this one guy.
So it's always been a red flag to me.
Obviously, I've got my opinions about that.
Any, any comment?
Well, you know, I might differ with you a little bit on the subject itself, but I would agree that by trying to take away people's religion, you are, whether it's, whether it's all necessarily true or not, you are, you are disabling people.
And I think that is, is purposeful what he is doing and trying to spreading this hopelessness and disabling people by, by taking away, you know, something that is kind of the last thing a lot of people have left, which is holding on to God.
What about Jackie Petru?
What's up with that?
Yeah, I mean, actually, the last time, and you can get these shows, the last shows that I went and did with Jackie Petru in 2006, you can get them on his website.

The reason that she stopped doing the show with him was because he refused to go into anything about human spirituality.
I mean, I believe she was a Christian when she first started talking to him, and he had kind of led her away from that.
And then he said, he kept making these hints about the true spiritual nature of people, but wouldn't go into any kind of detail.
And one would just say that, you know, we're, we're, he would talk about this thing called calling the spirit to you, and, and that you won't be able to survive in the afterlife unless you can call the spirit to you.
It's kind of an ancient, a cultic thing that he was talking about.
It comes from Egyptian mysticism.
It's interesting, for sure.

But one thing about...
He doesn't talk about that stuff anymore, though, which is interesting as well.
He talked about it on Jackie Petru's show, which is available on his website, I think for a reason, but he no longer discusses even that kind of spirituality.
I feel like he gets himself in a lot of trouble, possibly by saying things and then having to kind of deal with them later.
For instance, the red ice thing, I think was just a big mistake, you know, for him, he probably said something and then had to kind of really, you know, make a lot of people mad because he said something he didn't expect to get caught on.
Could you go through what happened with the red ice falling out and all that stuff?
Yeah, his claim is that red ice took him off the show because he refused to talk about aliens.
Heinrich and Frederick's version of the story is a little bit different.
I don't know about that situation. I mean, there seem to be some nefarious dealings on the red ice side as well.
Sure. I guess the interesting thing to me on that is that if...
And obviously, a lot of people notice this, and I'm sure you do as well, maybe you could back me up here, is that there is a difference between what Alan Watt seems to be saying and what's in his books.

I mean, they're obviously connected to a large degree, but they are clearly, you know, there's some disconnect there, some things that aren't...
Yeah, not to a very large degree where they connected. I mean, it's completely separate material.
He mentions little bits about this kind of word magic in his talks, but I don't even know if he knows what's in the books.
He might have just photocopied it from Keely's stuff without even reading it.
I mean, that's the thing about Keely, though, is that let's talk a little bit about Keely. What's your opinions on the guy?
Oh, I think he's great. I don't know. I think it's just incredibly interesting material that he's presenting.
I don't know that I would say there's maybe very much truth in it. I have no idea, honestly, but it's very intriguing.
It's a little bit like science fiction, I would say. It's fascinating.
But it's stuff that is just bizarre. I mean, he's talking about these mutant people from the ancient days that are pale skin.
They're called troglodytes, which I believe are mentioned by Josephus as well as somewhere in the Old Testament.
And he's talking about these people live inside the Earth and that he talks about they're causing global warming through his machines inside the Earth.
And that they've kind of existed all throughout time. And he talks about the genetic engine.
And he does believe in evolution that humans develop naturally into homo-habitilis.
I forget how you say that word. Something like a Neanderthal man, and then they were genetically engineered into modern man by troglodytes.
Well, let's think of this. Okay, now, troglodytes is one of the major things that Alan White apparently lifted wholesale from Keely's book.
At least from what we know, I mean, Keely does have the covers of his Keely papers on there.
And obviously, it's the exact same photocopy of that in Alan's book.
So Alan is talking about troglodytes, yet he is saying that's why I mentioned the red-eyes thing is to say that, oh, well, red-eyes wouldn't have him because, you know, he was talking about, you know, wouldn't talk about aliens.
Yeah, he'll talk about, oh, oh, did you mean troglodytes? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we're totally in agreement here then.
Well, I just call them troglodytes. You know, red-eyes lets anybody with a crazy theory on the show, you know, I mean, what would different would it be to put troglodytes on there?

But, I mean, and just on that, you mentioned the thing about Josephus, I did check that out.
It seemed like Josephus was talking about a place, and I couldn't find it in the Old Testament, just, you know, we might disagree on that, but just quick word search.

Yeah, they might call them something different in the newer versions, but I believe it is in the King James version and one of the, like, the Tanakh, the first five books there.

Well, check it out, but just for the record, Josephus did refer to it as a place rather than a people.
Okay, so that's...
There is mythology in other religions about...
I'm sure there is.
But I don't know if anybody would be talking about it if it wasn't for Glenn Keely.
Well, the deal with Keely, and this is, you know, my opinion, is that, like you said, it is kind of science fiction, and that's because there's a lot of stuff in there that's like, obviously, like, oh, yeah, that's not true.
But, you know, the guy had a printing press, and he has got some opinions, and that's kind of what happened, I think.
It's incredibly fascinating material.
I mean, I encourage anybody to go on there and on his sites, which are linked in my article, and check it out.
I mean, I would be very cautious, and, you know, anybody...
Because he's talking about the day Iraq war, the U.S. military is trying to save us from the troglodytes.
I mean, it's really out there stuff, but...
But, so where are we at now?

And with all this stuff, there's been some recent things, but definitely Alan has not taken any calls in the last...
Yes, that's key here.
Alan has not taken calls since I said on my forum that people should call in and ask him about Keely because he was clearly being deceitful.
And I believe that's what he meant when he said that I was leading a campaign to harass him, even though he implied to his listeners
that this so-called harassment campaign had something to do with death threats.
But people apparently just believe everything he says.
Like I say, it's like a cult because he does give so much compelling information, so much more than anybody else,
even though he repeats himself a lot, which I don't really understand the purpose of, he refers you to things,
and you can just get in this mindset where it's like, well, if he says it, it must be true.
And so I think that's where people are going with the death threat thing, and it just gets to the point where it's impossible to question anything he says.

So, I mean, these people are going along with it, even though to an outsider it just looks completely bizarre and kind of insane
that you, you know, based on the information that I have compiled that you would continue to say there's absolutely no question about this man.
In this kind of theology that this, I mean, they're waddists.
I mean, it is like a new religious movement.
Anybody who questions the leader is then working for the government trying to destroy him.
I mean, there's one member on my forum who, people keep sending me links of everywhere he is on the internet defending this guy.
I mean, he goes all over the internet and defends him and also tries to sell his books and MP3 CDs and DVDs and encourages people to donate to him.
So, I mean, it's like a, it's like a religious movement.
It's incredibly bizarre.
Do you think it's possible that he is actually a member of a secret society like the, some version of Masons or anything like that?
Is there any indication of that?
I mean, just from your opinion.
I have no evidence to support that.
I mean, I would think he would be, but I mean, I don't have any.
Do you think that his knowledge of that is, I mean, obviously he's got a lot of knowledge.

Extraordinary?

Extraordinary, yes.
Yeah, I think so.
Well, I mean, obviously none of us have any information to that, but that's just always kind of what I, what I figured is kind of like Cooper would say of that, you know, trying to get, you know, advanced to your degree.
You have to do some work for the, you know, system or whatever, but I don't know.
Yeah, about, about Bill Cooper, Alan Watt claims, made the claim on his show.
And this is where we lost the call for the last time and was not able to record anymore.
But the, I think he said he made the claim that Bill Cooper, I think, invited him to his ranch the week after or something.
He was killed or something, but, and it was a good thing he didn't go or something like that.
So I don't know.

Kind of hard to prove at this point, I suppose.
So I'll put links to this information in the show notes section, which is at NowhereToRunRadio.com or NowhereToRun.Potematic.com.
And I'll put the link to the video, put the link to Andre's article, put the link to any other information that might be of use there.
I think that's it.

Alright, thanks for your time. Good night.
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January 14, 2009
Alan Watt is Trying to Cover His Tracks
Posted by : Neo
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After the Watt-Kealey debate on Outlaw (direct link to outlawjournalism, neogt backup) Alan has decided to cover his tracks. Since he has been exposed of lying, deceit, and his act of treachery against many people of his [once] loyal audience, he has no other choice but to run,hide, and play stupid.

This cannot be tolerated. Alan has been viewed as an astounding teacher in the past, but now, after everyone has seen his true colors, rarely anyone really believes him anymore.

You should not tolerate a liar under the guise of a “truthful researcher.”

You can get an archive of Glen Kealey’s website, which is evidence of Alan Watt stealing his work and misleading his audience, here. (http://www.neogt.com/files/compressed/k ... rchive.zip)

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Alan Watt: Threats, Lies and Plagiarism [copied article]

Written on January 11, 2009


Update: Here is evidence that Alan Watt did in fact steal Glen Kealey’s work. Now play this video to see Alan caught lying.


[Below] This post is a copy of an article on Outlawjournalism.com.

For several months Alan Watt has been making threats against members of my forum, and on January 6th, he named me personally, and said he would be sending the cops after me. He has continually lied and distorted reality, and after recently having been exposed for plagiarizing the work of a man named Glen Kealey, he reaching into new depths of bizarre desperation, claiming that I am the leader of a mob that is threatening his life and that of his dog, and that thecops are coming for me. It is time I told my side of this story.


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I have been a part of the Truth Movement for going on six years. I have spent an incredible amount of time listening to radio shows and reading websites,checking out all of the different “leaders” of the movement. Eventually, I began to feel as if all of these people were mixing fact with fiction and simply goingaround in circles, without getting to the real heart of the matter, or offering any type of solutions to the incredible problems our species is facing.


A couple years ago, I discovered Alan Watt. I found that he was delving much deeper into the true history and nature of this conspiracy than all of the rest of theindustry moguls. He seemed to make things exciting again, referring me to books and areas of research that I had hitherto been unaware of. At that time he wasnot yet on RBN, and had the feel of a genuine truth teller, with a level of integrity uncommon in this business. I particularly enjoyed the old recordings of theshows he had done with Jackie Patru. He appeared to be going after the straight truth, without falling into the traps that the rest of the individuals discussingthese subjects seem to inevitably get caught in. He presented himself as a rebel, living in the woods like a hermit on very modest means, simply trying to get theword out, to give humanity one last chance to save itself before it was to late. I believed it.
He seemed to be speaking directly to me, saying everything I had always known in my gut to be true. He said that this entire system that we call “civilization” isa scam, run by psychopathic elite occultists. He talked about the true nature of man, and that every aspect of it is exploited by this system in a scientific fashion.

When I decided to put a forum on my site, people who listened to Alan began to quickly gather at newly created Outlaw Forum to discuss the various subjectsand ideas presented on Alan’s show. It soon became clear that Alan was not happy about this at all. At first he made vague references to forums in general,discouraging people from visiting them at all, claiming that they were all run by government agents for the purpose of spreading disinformation. He slowlystepped up his attacks, narrowing in on Outlaw Forum, without ever naming it outright. These attacks soon became threats.
I can now see that Watt was, from the beginning, afraid that if listeners of his show were to get together and discuss his work, he would lose his control overthem. They would begin to ask each other questions which Alan did not want asked, and eventually they would dig up his secrets and lies, and put them up forall the world to see.

Over the last few months, while attempting to stifle the free communication between his listeners, Alan has exposed his true self, and the little voice in the backof my head telling me that Alan was not what he claimed slowly began to rise in pitch. It was already screaming on the night of January 6th, when Alan Wattidentified me by name on his RBN broadcast, and told me that the cops would be coming for me because I had dared to question his authenticity.

“I am Perfectly Genuine, I Assure You”


Certain things about Alan have always made me uncomfortable. For one, he is probably one of the most negative people I have ever been exposed to. He directlyimplies that everything is fake and evil, and he paints the picture that we have absolutely no chance of overcoming this horror that is upon us, and that therereally isn’t anything about humanity worth saving anyway. I understand that things are nearly as bad as he implies, at least in the Western World, but mypersonal belief is that we as humans exist for a reason, and that we are experiencing this evil for a reason. I believe there is meaning in our suffering, andmeaning in the struggle to overcome evil. God or the Universe would not allow us to be born into such a situation as this, without giving us a shot at redemption.He always seemed to leave this bit out of his presentation.

Tying into this, he also totally avoided the subject of human spirituality. He would acknowledge that there is more to the universe than the physical, but claimedthat all religions were created by the elite to control us, and that all other forms of spirituality were “New Age”. Organized religion has certainly always been acontrol mechanism, and the New Age, with all of it’s cults, channeling rituals and “quantum physics means you create your own reality” mumbo-jumbo is notany better, but this is hardly a reason for a person not to seek spiritual enlightenment. I cannot say for certain that it was his intent, but the longer I listened to hisshow, the more I felt as if the show would likely draw one away from his own quest for the spiritual realm, pushing them instead towards a state of hopelessness.I fear that Alan could likely have this effect on anyone who put too much weight on the man’s projected impressions of the human experience.

It also appeared inconsistent that while supposedly encouraging people to be “free thinkers” and “individuals”, he would simply not allow anyone to disagreewith him, even if they attempted to do so politely. If a caller phoned into his show presenting a view of the world variant from his own, he was simply told hewas wrong, if not lambasted and cut-off. It was basically, “you are free to think whatever I tell you to think”.
I also always had the strange feeling that he was using some type of hypnotic technique, such as NLP, with the tone of his voice and the arrangement of hiswords. Though I could not ever really put my finger on it, I found the idea troubling.

“Your Love Won’t Pay My Bills”

By far the most contemptible aspect of his persona was his obsession with the copyright of his books. He would regularly launch into long rants about howpeople were giving away his .pdf files, playing the victim, crying about how hard his life is and how he has no money. On one show I can recall, he said 4 timesthat he could not afford an iPod. He would also beg shamelessly for donations, and use intense guilt tactics on anyone who was listening without paying theirdues.

Why, I wondered, should a person claiming to be against the system of money be so obsessed with it? And why was he the only person in this movement notoffering all of his material for free? His answer to the latter question was of course that everyone but him is a government funded propagandist.

I understand that we live in this system, and everyone needs money, but things are tough all over. I work 50 hours a week in a warehouse, and still cannot affordmy own domicile. I spend whatever free time I have trying to aid the fight. Alan’s excuse for why he could not bring in some sort of income, like all of the restof us do, outside of his work doing a one hour radio show three times a week, was absolutely ludicrous. He claimed it took all day to cook his meals and afterdoing the show from 7:00-8:00 pm, it took him until 3:00 am to upload the .mp3 file to his website. More recently he has said that he spends his entire dayscouring the Internet for people who are violating his copyright.
Though this and several other doubts lingered in my mind, I was able to push it aside, as the information he was presenting was just so compelling.


“Keep This to Yourself, There are Spies Everywhere”


My first major clue as to Alan’s true nature came about 8 months ago when Alan stated several times that we should not talk to the people around us, becausethere are spies everywhere and we will be put in prison. This is totally ridiculous on a multitude of different levels. Yes, there may be “agents” who hang out inpublic places listen to people’s conversations; I doubt they are “everywhere”, as Alan claims, but for the sake of argument, let’s suppose they are. How wouldspeaking in public make any difference at all? They already monitor everyone’s web usage, and have made lists of anyone who researches these subjects. Wehave nothing to lose anyway, as if we don’t stop this now, all of our lives are going to be a living hell, and most of us will probably end up dead.

even confronted him about this when Alan was a guest on his show, and Alan’s response was something like “people should not speak to others in their ownarea, but go to a different town where people don’t know who you are and talk to people there”. Whatever that means.
Upon hearing this, it hit me hard that Alan Watt was playing on paranoia in order to discourage truth seekers from exercising the one freedom we have left to dothe one thing that may be able to save us; he was telling us not to attempt to wake others up.
Then the threats began.


“I’ll Make You Regret This”



The first threat against a member of my forum came in the Fall of 2008, after a forum poster going by the handle “Neo” created a site called“sentientsentinel.com”, in homage to Alan Watt, who’s European site is at “alanwattsentientsentinel.eu”. I told Neo that this was probably not a great idea, as thedomain name was too similar to Watt’s. To make sure that readers would not get confused into thinking that this site was an official site of Alan Watt, he put astatement across of the top of the page stating that fact.
On October 1st, Alan became aware of the webpage. Instead of contacting the admin of the site and voicing his concerns, as any mature adult would be prone todo, he opted instead to go on the air on his RBN broadcast attacking and threatening the site (.mp3 link
here , the threats are at 1:30 - 4:00 into it, then from 5:50- 8:00).


He first claimed that it was created by government agents pretending to be him, to try and trick people and “lead them into forums”. He mixed hisattacks on Neo with attacks on people who are supposedly violating his copyright, saying that he has “friends all over”, and would be “sending people to see [thepeople who have 'done the dirty' on him] and make them regret it”.

This seems to have clearly been a thinly veiled threat of violence. One member of Outlaw Forum, who is an obsessive follower of Watt, said that this in no wayimplied violence, but he was unable to come up with any example of a possible alternate meaning. “Sending people to see you” is generally understood as aclassic mafioso style threat of physical harm, and I find it impossible to believe Watt doesn’t know this.
A couple days later, again talking both about “the one pretending to be him”, along with unknown individuals who he claims are distributing .pdf files of hiscopyrighted material, he reiterated the threat of harassment by his “friends” who are “all over the world”, saying “I will come down hard on you” (.mp3 link here , with the relevant statements at 1:50 - 5:00; transcript here ). On the 6th of October he again attacks Neo’s site, and refering to the link on that site tooutlawjournalism.com, he says that the site is steering people into “antisemitism” (.mp3 link is
here , attacks are at 1:40 - 3:40, transcript here ).

Also worthy ofnote, the week before, when talking about the violators of his copyright, he said he had satellite pictures of a man named Alphonso’s home in Toledo, Ohio andthat he better take the .pdf files down and send him money, or suffer some consequence (.mp3 link
here , the threats are at 1:30 - 2:20).


The kicker is that he was implying that these people are government agents out to destroy him, and then threatening them. This is blatant double-speak. If theyare government agents, why would he be threatening them?

You can make of this what you wish. It is within the realm of possibility that these “friends” he spoke of would do something other than beat up the accused,threaten their children, rape their wives, vandalize or burn down their homes, etc., though these are the images that immediately came to my mind upon hearing the threat. It is almost certain that whatever it was he was implying, these threats were a bluff, intended to intimidate the supposed offenders. If he was actually planning on sending thugs to someone’s house, he would not say it over the air. Alan is many things, but he is not stupid.

Whatever his intent was, I think it would be extremely difficult to argue that administering any manner of threat like this over the air to anyone, let alone to a fanof yours who you have not even attempted to contact privately, is the behavior of a normal, decent human being. These actions are more akin to the that of aderanged control freak who, unable to deal with his own frustration, launches into childlike tantrums whenever someone does something he doesn’t like. It iscertainly not the behavior of a saint who would exile himself into obscurity, simply for the sake of trying to save humanity.
It was incredibly disillusioning to hear these threats from a man I had held in such high regard. Eventually, I swallowed my pride and admitted to myself that Ihad been duped. Alan was not the person of integrity that I had believed he was. Though he was presenting a different level of information than the rest of the“leaders”, he was in fact more disreputable than even the most shameless of the entire rouge’s gallery of profiteering conmen operating in this business.
The pieces began to fit into place in my mind. I realized he was not only not a hero, but in fact someone who likely had a diabolical agenda to push. Though Ivoiced my concerns about his threats on my forum, I did not state outright my rapidly intensifying suspicions about his real motives. I still held onto the hopethat maybe he was just a frustrated old man who didn’t have a full understanding of the nature of the Internet, and I didn’t want to go public with my suspicionsuntil I knew for sure.

Things only got worse.

“My Face is Copyrighted”


The next incident came when another of Alan’s listeners, a regular poster at Outlaw Forum who goes by the handle “ColossusOfDestiny”, created a domaincalled “alanwattfans.com”. On this site he had links to Alan’s podcasts, and was selling t-shirts and coffee mugs with Alan’s face on them. He stated that hewould be donating a portion of the proceeds of the sales to Alan Watt.

When he posted the link on the forum, I and the rest of the regular posters told him that this was a terrible idea, and that he could expect to be threatened on air.No more than 18 hours later, Alan went on his show and threatened to sue the creator of this site, claiming that his face was copyrighted (.mp3 is here , with therelevant statements and threats at 2:00 - 16:00).



He again tied this in with the real or unreal people he claims are distributing his .pdf files. He claimed that oneof the people who was distributing his copyrighted files was in trouble with the police, and the rest would soon be joining him. All of the nonsense he goes onabout it presented in this particular self righteous, self-pityingrant, and one can clearly see the disgust he has for his own listeners. He also mentions OutlawForum, calling us psychopaths, and compares us to the Rothschilds and the Freemasons.

He once again called the person who created the site a government agent trying to destroy him, before threatening him.

I want to make it clear that selling the t-shirts and coffee mugs was a horrible idea, and I am not defending this. The fact is that it would be plain to anyone whocame across that site that this was just a young guy, who was inspired by Alan’s message, and was doing the best he could to spread the word.

Again, I know the man who made the site, and I know that just as with Neo, he would have taken it down immediately if Alan had simply emailed him and lethim know he was uncomfortable with it. There was absolutely no reason, and no excuse, for more threats. It is the behavior of a spoiled child.
The fact that he responded so quickly was proof that he was now a regular lurker on Outlaw Forum.

He was no doubt aware of the poor reception his “people are coming to get you” threats had received, and this time instead chose to threaten a lawsuit. The lawsuit was course a bluff, just as the apparent threats of violence were. If Alan does not have the money to fix his broken chainsaw, as he has claimed, he certainly doesn’t have the tens of thousands of dollars it would take to launch an international Internet copyright infringement lawsuit.

At this point suspicions were mounting, not only on Outlaw Forum, but across the board. The events that followed caused all former followers of Watt who Ihave had contact with, save one religious devotee, to lose any remaining faith.

“Yes, I met Glen Kealey Once, Back in the 90’s”


The final proverbial nail in Watt’s coffin was quite fittingly bizarre in the extreme. On December 15th, “Warren in North Carolina” called into Watt’s show andasked if he knew a man named Glen Kealey. Watt said he did, that he had met him in the 90’s. The caller then told Watt that his material was clearly ripped off ofKealey’s work, and was promptly cut off. When Alan posted the podcast of the show on his website, he removed the caller who had called in questioning him( here is the show in full from the RBN archives, call at 49:50, and here is the redacted version from Watt’s site). Clearly, he did not want folks knowing aboutthis Kealey person.


A member of Outlaw Forum noticed this strangeness, and we found Kealey’s sites (here,here, and here) and email group
. Lo and behold, it seems that themajority of Watt’s “esoteric” knowledge has been directly lifted from this man’s work. All of “Watt’s” theories about the phonetic coding of language, thehistorical existence of genetic engineering, the hermaphroditic agenda, the troglodytes, etc., were directly taken from Kealey, without ever mentioning the man’sname.

What’s more, entire pages in Watt’s heavily copyrighted .pdf files appear to have been photocopied strait from The Kealey Paper
. Images and entire pages oftext are identical. In case you are wondering, the copyright on Kealey’s work is much older than the one on Watt’s. I am certain that Alan would have declared tothe caller that Kealey ripped him off, as he claims that David Icke did, if there was any way he could make that seem plausible. I do not yet have copies of The Kealey Papers , but I would not be surprised if the entirety of Watt’s three books was copied directly from them.


One can go onto Kealey’s webpage and see images from the covers of the Papers which Watt has used in his books (example at the head of this article), and if you read through some of Kealey’s web posts, you can see clearly that Watt plagiarized his material extensively, giving him absolutely no credit. He even deleted the man’s name from his show, denying him as Peter denied Christ.

At this point, after all of the shattered trust and broken pride, there was nothing else I could do but laugh. I laughed long and hard. The “copyrighted files”,which I had spent hours listening to Watt cry his eyes out about, were in fact largely the work of someone else.
We discussed this extensively in a thread on Outlaw Forum. No one could deny it. It was just too blatant what Watt had done. We all knew what was coming next.



“They are Going to Kill Me and My Dog”




The Next round of threats came quickly, clearly in response to our discussion of Kealey. Here is the transcript of Watt’s statements about the Outlaw Forum,made after he discovered that we were discussing his plagiarism (.mp3 link
here , statements are at 5:10 - 8:20): Hi folks, this is Alan Watt and we are cutting through the matrix, and I have been discussing how we have all been brainwashed. The general technique of brainwashing means that the people who have been subjected to it never know it. That is why it is very successful. And we live in a scientifically indoctrinated age. An age where literally the sciences were developed to do with groups and they talk about neuroscience which goes right into genetics by the way, and eugenics, and how we have all been studied; the studies are ongoing. Most of the studies today on people and the groups they will join are done on chatrooms. Many people in the chat rooms don’t know they’re part of the experiments. And they break them down into dyads, subtypes, personality types, and so on, and that’s why it’s so easy for someone who is put in as an agitator to get the mob going againstsomeone else.



These are experiments, and I’ve had a few of these experiments pulled on me, over the years. Always from the same group, from one particularforum. I know every single one of them, and so do the police. Because lately I’ve had threats come from the same group again. This group even hadthe gall to put up a fake website with my name on it, at one point. And you turn to the first page, the first link took you off to someone, I know hisreal name; called Andrew, and it was an anti-Semitic rant. So that one was tried on me before.

And now the same character has got the mob all geared up to try and harass me. So I have to warn you, every single one of you, on the website; it isbeing monitored by the cops. Because you see malicious intent, and threats, are taken seriously. And I take threats against myself and my life andmy dog very seriously. So let that be a warning to all of you. In your own states of locked up paranoia.

Now I hate to even go off in that direction but that is what you get when you start to get known. If you are not saying the things they want you tosay, or you are not agreeing with their particular spin on something they’ll come after you. Thats the mob. And most of them are just that as I say:they are the mob. They don’t think. And they are easily riled up by someone who knows the techniques. For they are the fronts, they are disposableat the end of the day.

Following his strange method once more, he first claimed that I was some type of agent running some kind of social experiment with my forum, usingpsychological manipulation methods to rile people up against him, before introducing his most nonsensical threat that thus far.
In an attempt to switch the game up, he claims that we are the ones making the threats, citing this as the reason for his threats against us. This is called “

blamingthe victim ”. He says members of Outlaw Forum are threatening to kill him and his dog. He just makes that up, out of nowhere. He says he has contacted thepolice, and that he knows who everyone on the forum is, and we are all going to be dealt with by the authorities because we are making death threats.

He says that these threats are “coming from members of the forum”. I guess rather than saying that we are making threats on the forum, which would be easilydisproved by anyone who cared to take a look, he is implying that members of the forum are contacting him privately, identifying themselves as being membersof the forum, and then threatening to kill him and his dog. That is what he is saying. Imagine it: “I am a poster at Outlaw Forum and I am going to kill you and your dog”.

Let’s just suppose that it did happen, exactly like that; someone wrote him an email, identified himself as a member of my forum and then threatened to kill himand his dog. What does this have to do with me or my forum? Why would he not simply forward the email to the proper authorities, and allow them to trace it,and deal with the criminal individual accordingly? Why would there be a need to mention it publicly?

Suppose they had sent him an email saying “I have a membership at the YMCA and I am going to kill you and your dog”; would he then call the cops and insistthat they monitor everyone holding a membership at the YMCA, and would the cops go along with this, and spy on all of us, as he is claiming they are doing tothe members of Outlaw Forum?

But he certainly couldn’t have actually called the cops and said we were making death threats, without any proof, could he? And which “cops” would he call, I wonder, given that we are all living in different states and countries? Would he call all of our local police departments, since he knows who we all are? Maybe he would contact Homeland Security and Interpol? Or possibly the United Nations and NATO?


Or maybe, just maybe, this is another desperate attempt at intimidation from a psychopathic control freak about to totally lose control, physically overwhelmedby the idea that someone can question his lies, and he be able to do absolutely nothing to stop it.
The key here is that he is trying to make people afraid to visit the forum by saying that they will be in trouble with the police if they do. This is a truly patheticact of total desperation. Every listener to Alan Watt should be deeply offended that this man believes you are stupid enough to believe this craziness he is sellingyou.
He says “I know his real name, it’s Andrew”, and Andrew is the name on my birth certificate (though I was only ever called it on the first day of school). Hishaving gathered this “personal” information on me is also clearly meant to intimidate, and prove that he has the ability to find out everything about us, and“make us pay”. However, this is not terribly difficult to figure out, and certainly does not prove he has some magical ability to go to a forum and find thepersonal information of everyone posting there, as he is claiming. I have to say though, the man is creepy. He does have that going for him.
It is also worthy of note that he slanders me with the label of “anti-semite”, referring to an article I wrote as an “anti-semitic rant”. That article is
here
, for thoseinterested. Apparently, he believes that “anti-semitism” is a real concept, and that anyone who questions the Jewish religion or the Secular State of Israel shouldbe labeled as such.

He calls me a ringleader of a band of brainwashed followers, riling people up to “harass” him. He is apparently implying to his listeners that this is somehowrelated to the threats against him and his dog, but what he is actually talking about is me having encouraged people to call in to his show and ask him aboutKealey. Ever since I made this suggestion on my forum, he has done shows without taking any calls, something I am not aware of him ever having done before.He has claimed that this is due to some technical problem, but one has to wonder how long he can keep that excuse going. He is going to have to deal with thissituation in some way, and it will be interesting to see what he chooses to do.

He is backed up against a wall, because Kealey’s site is there for everyone to see, and once a person has seen it, they are not going to really be able to trust Wattever again, especially given the measures he has taken to cover this whole thing up. It seems he is either going to have to go off the air, as he has been bluffingthat he was going to in an attempt to increase his donations, or he is going to have to somehow attempt to address the issue of the plagiarism, by either admittinghe was “influenced” by Kealey, or coming up with some sort of cover story, which could involve an elaborate fantasy tale about how Kealey is somehowworking for the government as a part of some sort of complex plot to try and destroy him.

Whichever path he chooses, I assure you, these threats are going to keep on coming. Given the fact that he is clearly dredging the depths of total desperation, hemay actually try to have me harassed in some way, and is almost certainly already trying to get my site shut down. If my site does happen to go down, or if I turnup missing (I seriously doubt the latter will occur, but given the apparent nature of this man, I have to at least mention the possibility), you will all know whathas taken place.

After all of this, there is absolutely no way a person could honestly claim that Alan Watt is simply in this fight to try and help people. His behavior demonstratesthat he has a severe personality disorder, which most assuredly prevents him from caring about anything other than himself.
Psychopathy is the only explanation for his behavior, as it would have been most beneficial for him to simply ignore Outlaw Forum altogether. He was unable todo so, due to his ego and the overwhelming need a psychopath has to control everything around him. If he had never begun with the threats, I and the rest of his now former listeners would likely still have respect for him, he would still be able to spread his defeatist message without being questioned, still be able to make a killing off of paypal donations.

He blew the scam himself by being unable to control his own psychopathic instincts. People were able to break away from him and see him for what he trulywas, overcoming his lies, only because he was incapable of restraining his own evil nature. I believe that this is analogous of the situation the entire world findsitself in. Eventually, the very nature of the system in which we live will be it’s downfall.

We will never know for sure if Alan is some type of government propagandist, giving out extremely large doses of truth tainted with disinformation, confusionand paralyzing hopelessness, or simply a snake oil salesman, making easy money exploiting the vulnerability of people looking for truth in a world of lies. If heis the former, it seems that he is required by his controllers to earn his own keep while working this scam, in order that his ties to the establishment cannot bedirectly traced. This would explain his obsession with money and copyrights.

I want to state clearly that I have no definitive evidence that Alan is working for anyone, but I personally believe that it is the only logical explanation one couldcome to given his behavior. If he was simply out for money, he is intelligent enough he could be making a lot more in a lot of different ways.
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I hope that this account helps those fans of Alan Watt, many of which were probably confused by his recent behavior, to put things together, and begin to snapout of the haze he has lolled you into. We will each have to break the spell that the “leaders” of this movement have cast on us if we wish stand a real chance atchanging the future. We simply cannot afford to let ourselves be diverted by men with agendas that we do not even fully understand. Alan Watt is the finalgatekeeper. If we can steer past him, we are in the clear, capable of deciding our own path.

Watt wants us to feel impotent and helpless. The people in power are not infallible, and they are not gods. We, those of us with the intelligence to figure thissystem out, and the willpower to oppose it, are the most powerful force on the planet. Our biggest threat is not the global banking cartel or the United Nations,but the shill “leaders” in our movement who serve to neutralize us. Free of the psychological and emotional chains they impose upon us, we are unstoppable.God is on our side, and it is we who shall inherit the Earth.

We must tell ourselves everyday that all is not lost. We must cling to the humanity we still have left, and the hope for a world where people can just be people.Yes, civilization is evil, but we are here for a reason, and that is what we should all be searching for. We each have the ability to change the world, simply by thechoices we make. The future is still wide open. We are spiritual beings experiencing a physical form, and the battle of the spirit is still one that each of us canwin, and together, we can still save the world.

Stay Free

–Andre
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or several months Alan Watt has been making threats against members of my forum, and on January 6th, he named me personally, and said he would be sending the cops after me. He has continually lied and distorted reality, and after recently having been exposed for plagiarizing the work of a man named Glen Kealey, he is reaching into new depths of bizarre desperation, claiming that I am the leader of a mob that is threatening his life and that of his dog, and that the cops are coming for me. It is time I told my side of this story.







http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=85

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Alan Watt might be real or he might be some agent. My experience says he adds nothing positive, but only hopelessness. The feeling that there is no point in trying to help your fellow human beings.

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Could it perhaps be that just as the corporate world attracts psychopaths because they suit their personality and it gives them success there, the truth movement attracts paranoid schizophrenics? Note that these can be incredibly intelligent and enjoy great success.
Just look at John Nash. He had an illustrious career at the Rand Corporation and received the Nobel Prize for his work. However, he was so crazy that he had to stop.

Posted on: 2009/1/25 0:27
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Just because you´re paranoid does not mean they´re not after you...
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Have listened through Alan Watts' latest radio show, they have been very informative and interesting. He has gone through articles and, among other things, read some of books such as Tragedy and Hope. Think this is just slur. he mentioned that people posted websites where they sell his books illegally without giving him compensation, in addition, something had threatened him and his dog. He never mentioned that these events were connected. And how can one know that this particular individual is telling the truth when he says that members of his forum have been threatened? Alan hardly threatens people through his radio show so then it has to be by email, phone or otherwise, has he saved the calls he finds threatening?

I think this is misinformation.

If you take five lines of text as proof that Alan Watt is a psychopath who threatens people, you probably haven't listened very much to what his program is usually about. Especially now that in recent weeks Alan has gone into the depths of the elite's psychological warfare and system of control.

Read through the rest now, seems to be mostly an emotional post where someone who has been in the "truth movement" for six years feels deeply hurtful by Alan Watts' way of describing reality and that he does not release all his material for free and stops asking for donations. The author himself says that he works 50 hours a week. Maybe he wants Alan to do it too. How Alan could work 50 hours a week and still do the same work he does now and release his material pretty much for free is hard to see, only a few items he sells while the rest are free.

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En kommentar:

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Reg 21/01/2009 at 8:17 am

My thoughts on this -

- It didn’t sound to me that AW made or implied any threats of violence.

-Glen Kealey’s story seems to be gradually shifting into an anti-AW agenda when at first it there was no antagonistism.

- Andre created and controls the primary community of online AW admirers which gives him the power to create more discension and disaffection among AW admirers than perhaps anyone else.

On the plagiarism charge - I’ve noticed that AW sometimes tries to incorporate the work of others into his own in a symbiotic way - for instance, there was a European guy who was using the term, “mass man”. AW gave a pointer to his website and then used the same term for a while. So it was a form of collaboration in that context, and I assumed it was something like that with Kealey, who originally bore no ill will at all toward AW, but now seems to be gradually conforming to some anti-AW agenda."

Posted on: 2009/1/25 8:49
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Anonymous
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Well, I've been following this for a while now too. Here is the clip where someone calls in and asks about Glen Kealy.



you see my comments in it all so

read the "daniel torstensson" comments in
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=85OBS - it's not the information itself that's being debated here in

Andre's news, but it seems more of a fuss about who is the "originator". Then it is not investigated which parts the alan allegedly retrieved from kealey. In the cuttingthroug books there is a lot of clipping material, so I took it for granted when I got them that alan healthy borrowed from different places.

What the purpose of others' article is, however, remains to be determined.


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Let's take an example: If you now come to the conclusion that Alan Watt used other books or other people's works, what does it matter. or if he threatened with whatever. It's like figuring out that poo has different shades of brown. How to avoid being influenced by what others say, if sensible things come out of someone's mouth, we are constantly influenced by what people read or have read, precisely because some find the perfect words they may not have come up with in books in particular or maybe heard it from someone else they had a conversation with. This almost feels like a hip hop beef, many will certainly spend unnecessary time on this event, but in the end


doesn't it matter, doesn't directly affect more than the 2 people who want. This has happened before, then it was probably between Alex Jones and someone else from GCN if I don't remember completely wrong. How many times hasn't I been told shit, for example?Looks at the event as an unnecessary energy devourer.There are bigger fighters than 2 people who don't have access to any direct world-threatening weapon, Sadly this will certainly create more superficial2 sides of people.Respect



Posted on: 2009/1/25 14:34
don't you understand that they play is a game, in front of your era, TV evening. The way some people

find fault, you`d think there was a reward.
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Anonymous
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who cares what a person claims, it's no evidence. All you have to do to know if alan is an agent or not is to ask a normal person who doesn't have a paranoid brain who makes things up whether he is or not, and you will find out that he isn't.

When will people stop having a mentality like a four-year-old and stop accusing people who do a good job of spreading the truth to agents without any evidence whatsoever, it is clear that those people are deliberately or unconsciously working against the truth about nwo.


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Good Spartacus that you linked to the article. I thought about doing it myself, but since I had already been messing around so much among the comments, I pulled a bit to do it. I see most people here side with Alan.

Then ”I just have to Alan-ballan-sear it all up... I don't know if you've looked through this topic of Alan's being and

not being really thorough, or if I've been unnecessarily receptive to the criticism, but I think everything that there is a lot of value in it. I also think we should remember, among other things. that The Outlaw Forum has been a real paradise for Alan Watt lovers for a long time

.I absolutely think you should hear the interview with Chris White ( http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/ Then scroll down to the 14 Jan ”Alan Wattergate”) and then the one with Ognir ( http://theinfounderground.com/archive ... the%20Outlaw%20forums.mp3 ). Enough as entertaining at times as anything else and besides, I think very informative. Or am I too blue-eyed again...?

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jin83 wrote: And how can one know that this particular
individual is telling the truth when he says that members of his forum have been threatened? Alan hardly threatens people through his radio show so then it has to be by email, phone or otherwise, has he saved the calls he finds threatening?


Well, then you probably HAVEN'T heard all the radio shows with him in recent months (uh... I'm guilty of this type). I again ask to refer to the above links. Listen to these and then let us know what you have to say, would be interesting to hear. Personally, I can no longer bring myself to believe in any of these old men; Maxwell, Tsarion, Alex Jones or David Icke. Sure, they have very good and true that they bring. But you CANNOT trust them completely. Tsarion was the easiest to dismiss, while the seemingly innocent and impoverished Alan Watt was the hardest to dismiss. However, they made me all feel bad in the end in all the hopelessness and shady spirituality (or lack thereof) and an alarm clock began to ring small in the back of my head. So... I personally think there are simply no major shortcuts.You have to do the work yourself. Not necessarily finding everything yourself but double checking everything these filers say. NEVER take anything for granted. And no, even you my good Alan couldn't give us ”The shortcuts” as you claimed.

This is my view of it all. At the moment it is best to add! If nothing else, I have, hopefully, learned some humility from all the patchwork (180 degree twists) and pretzel hooks I've made until now, and will surely do again. Keep an eye out and your mind open folks. ”Or I will come down on you...”



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Have listened to basically all the programs this and last year, which people is he threatening and when is he doing it?

What I heard is that people sell his books without giving him money, that people sell things in his name, that people threatened him and his dog. This is perhaps not so strange as the elite will not like Alan Watt. Please mention which people Alan

threatened if you have now discovered this in one of Alan's radio programs.

Posted on: 2009/1/27 11:13
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I have to admit that I got a little tired of Alan & Co after the New Year so I haven't listened at all so slavishly after that. But, nevertheless, I have heard a little here and there. The most obvious is probably the one you mention which contains the ”threat against him and his dog”. What we learn in Andre's article on Outlaw Journalism is the background to all this. I'm guessing that just like me you haven't seen any of these sites where his material would be sold. These two that he threatened were fan-based and made as a tribute to Alan with links to his mp3 files (not those on CD) and really didn't involve selling any of his material. Instead of contacting these people (2 to my knowledge) regarding his dissatisfaction, he instead threatened them on the air, and made himself sound vulnerable and exploited as usual (there's double speak for you!).

But again back to the episode where he threatened Andre and his forum. It was the 6th of Jan this year. He said, among other things:

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These are experiments, and I’ve had a few of these experiments pulled on me, over the years. Always from the same group, from one particular forum. I know every single one of them, and so do the police. Because lately I’ve had threats come from the same group again. This group even had the gall to put up a fake website with my name on it, at one point. And you turn to the first page, the first link took you off to someone, I know his real name, called Andrew, and it was an anti-Semitic rant. So that one was tried on me before.
And now the same character has got the mob all geared up to try and harass me. So I have to warn you, every single one of you, on the website: it is being monitored by the cops. Because you see malicious intent, and threats, are taken seriously. And I take threats against myself and my life and my dog very seriously. So let that be a warning to all of you, in your own states of locked up paranoia.


Again, Andre (Andrew) and basically everyone on the forum was Alan Watt's lover. They got shit for this even then or were ignored (but now he knows us all all of a sudden!). Now that they have tracked Alan a little more, he throws the above out. Again (probably) just on the air. If someone threatened him via email or phone, the police will be able to track this down and take care of it. However, no one on the forum seems exactly scared. And words must stand against words, I guess. But I see no logic or reason to distrust Andre in this case. But of course, you never know... Again, listen

to the links I listed earlier if you haven't. And... Well. Let's discuss further.

Posted on: 2009/1/27 18:07
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...---.... . Tack för två långa inlägg med en massa ord och inga bevis. väldigt informativt.

This is the kind of thing that creates two sides and makes people choose sides, which damages our movement. There is no evidence whatsoever that any of the people you mentioned are an agent so what are you doing? are you doing the CIA's job? disinfo?. it's not even worth responding to posts like this where no evidence is given just a bunch of paranoid nonsense "he might be an agent". wake up to the fact that you have been brainwashed into letting others create your reality, it is a disease, as soon as you find something small you don't like about a person, you let a liar with a story strengthen your faith that those people are not good, you have been trained to be easy to deceive otherwise you wouldn't have said "they may not be trustable" when you have no reason whatsoever to say so,just paranodite made-up nonsense that helps the elite and makes people who are mentally weak may not find it convenient to read books by david not or anyone else.

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My dear Malmö friend, it was so little like that. I clearly respect your point of view and don't want to try to push on any mine, I must admit, ever-changing view of things. There are several things that have made me not believe blindly in these people. And I understand if you want to know why, so would I. There are a lot of people out there that I would like to put against the wall and ask ”When? Where? How? Why?” However, it is hard when impossible for ”a small animal like jag” or Piglet to answer. I can only wish you an openness. And humility. "Evidence" for both sides is out there on the web. I get to agree with Di Leva; Who should I believe?

What I myself find difficult to understand is why these old men say so much truth but have still gathered frogs and suspicions in me...? Must they still do no more good for the truth than harm? And if they are now so good and true why are they still alive? To say that it would do even more for ”the truth movement” if they became some kind of martyrs doesn't exactly feel logical. They could disappear without a trace at any time and that wouldn't change much other than people than the fact that it got a little quieter on the air. Again, I don't know for sure, that

's the only thing I know. But I hope I am entitled to a small, small opinion. Otherwise, I might as well put this forum down...

Then if someone doesn't think it would feel comfortable to read one of David Icke's books, with reptiles and everything, I still see it as quite healthy.

Posted on: 2009/1/27 19:51
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You can have any opinions you want, but I don't understand why you want to talk shit about someone and say "maybe they are agents" without having a very strong argument behind it, it just does harm. calling yourself awake and at the same time running around calling people agents without any evidence is just like supporting disinfo and the elite. it seems that it is enough for a person to write an article for you to think it sounds credible, anyone can write an article about alan or david not and make up a lot of things. and the question why they live is ridiculous, there is a very simple answer to that, have already answered it in another thread, they only talk about things that are recognized, all they talk about is OPEN information,why would the elite murder someone because they are talking about a book that they themselves sell in stores or because someone is talking about a document such as mcultra that is recognized, makes no sense, the list would have been very long on people they would kill in any case because there are hundreds of people who david non, alan and AJ who talk about things that are recognized. david Rockefeller didn't even know who Ron Paul was in an interview, they think they are god and they hardly know anyone who writes books about them. people lower down the pyramid have probably heard of them, David J Rothkopf knows who AJ is, for example. when the time comes, they probably have a five cell waiting for them, they can't just start picking up people who speak out against their confessed crimes now, just like they can't arrest everyone in the anti-war movement who reveals that there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq.they can only do that under martial law, otherwise there will be too many questions why innocent people go to prison.

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What I myself find difficult to understand is why these old men say so much truth but have still gathered frogs and suspicions in me...?


Therefore, like everyone else, you have grown up in a very sick society and been brainwashed, and this is how brainwashing probably affects you so that you became extra paranoid and think that everyone is an agent () we are all brainwashed in some small way.

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Maybe you're right, maybe you're right...

One thing is certain, though; this whole movement has certainly made me VERY paranoid. I don't know how to fully trust anyone. And we all know which ones it benefits... But now I'm going to sleep anyway, and there I have my own world.

I believe it...!

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All the more I read and look for info about G.Kealy, Andre's article appears as a hit piece with the aim of destruction and not at all with the aim of bringing out the truth. This person legs it out pretty well:#interested 26/01/2009 at 1:59 amThanks for the headsup on all of this. So what do we have so far?Watt has a photocopy from another source in his book. If you'll look again there are copies of many things in the book, pharaohs, old wood cuttings, articles from other media etc. all of which were obviously added in to augment his work.What do we have from this Kealy character
, who has strangely said nothing about this gargantuan, tremendous theft before. He says in some 10 second clip on some talk show that Watt talked to him on the phone over a short period of time at some stage in the past, ordered his pamphlet and then some of the info was used by Watt without acknowledgment. This isn’t surprising since hardly any of the Watt book’s pictures/articles etc. have this, you could put “google images” under many and it’d suffice.

It’s all very interesting, but insulting people’s intelligencewho are giving Watt the benefit of the doubt is a bit over the top at this stage. Going on what we have so far, and not the bunch of hogwash that markus allen is trying to push (Watt has a brainchip, went to school with Prince Charles, hundreds of grand in donations etc.(wtf?)), there’s no way to know 100%.

Having scanned over Kealy’s web stuff, I could only give a small smile as most of it is almost completely incoherent if not batshit crazy in addition to being put up way after Watts’ book was published. There are some things amongst the rubble that look similar to some of the more out there stuff in Watts’ book, that gives me pause. It’ll be interesting to see scans of these Kealy pamphlets when you get them. If they were published before 1999, and if Watt found them worthy enough to use as a source, I would really like to learn more of what Kealy has to say.


...---... : Håller med dig om att Watt är deprimerande, men att följa andres artikel som en grund till debunkning är lite av ett skämt. Den innehåller bara en god grund till tjaffs och bråk, den är skriven på ett sätt som ska reta och skapa oro. Andre är uppenbarligen inte intresserad av att sprida info om hur eliten jobbar, han vill skapa bråk mellan folk som undersöker eliten.
Vilket han lyckas med mycket bra i den där artikeln. Luktar disinfo.

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What conclusion can be drawn from this. That we should of course question our sources, but that the

forces that we really question benefit from wrapping wedges in the search for truth. To create confusion and so on.

This will take time for me. Probably the rest of my life.

To see through all the lies. The worst part is that new lies and disinfo keep popping up.I keep reading Allan Watt, David Icke, Alex Jones and many more even though I don't


trust anyone 100% and don't have someone

like Guru.This is to be able to compare their view and info against each other.

Posted on: 2009/1/28 7:53

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Uhmm, maybe void & Co is right. Personally, I was already moving away from the man of pure self-preservation (depressing was the word and I'm quite weak and sensitive, especially right now), so then it's clear that I appreciate the ”information” that comes out that strengthens me in this. But I've never wanted to give way to the truth, so I'm not going to cut ties with Alan completely, yet anyway. Time will tell... Firstly, to answer the Malmö soldier, I

don't call myself awake in the slightest. I think that we are still (I therefore believe and do not know for sure and have nothing I can strengthen this with) on the first round of the onion.

Then (again...) I don't think more than 4 – 5 people had to disappear from the airwaves, nor necessarily be murdered. In Alex Jones' case, there is a whole army of people who would like to take over, but... Well, he is the best at his particular thing (of course). ”Uhhh, you're Al-Quaida...” etc. always makes me pull on the smile bands, Neanderthal humor as it may be.

Verily We are brainwashed. But I (the signature ...---... and not necessarily anyone else) see it as a bit ”don't upset my house of cards if we can't absorb all kinds of information. It was damn how fragile and peaceful this movement was!? If I'm somehow led in the nose ring by one/most of these old men, because stupid as I am by brainwashing, fluortants and psychotropic drugs, I want to know. And how can you not become a little paranoid after what has happened so far in your life?

I can only give examples really with Jordan Maxwell and David Icke. I have never liked Tsarion, but there is nothing rational about this, so I am happy to protect him, even if he stands very much on the same footing as Maxwell. JMAX: In this show with Jeff Rense, I found it a little hard to believe everything the man had to say: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/37810 ... Maxwell_-_An_Amazing_Life (Hoppas torrenten lever än, kan ej seeda själv.) Några godbitar är diverse UFO-upplevelser, skumma människor som följt honom sedan barnsben, en liten Tyrannosaurus Rex i trädgårdslandet som liten. Med mera. David Icke: Visst, det är tjatigt men det här reptilian-snacket. Även om jag tror att han har börjat lägga mindre vikt vid det så har han mig veterligt inte heller dementerat sina tidigare uttalanden i ämnet (rätta mig om jag har fel).

Finally, this weak soul wants to repeat what he said earlier, and here I think you agree: I still don't understand the possible point of ”elite” sponsoring these dudes...? Surely they still have to do far more good than harm, right?? And there I am now. Sifting as best I can among the information. The only thing I can think of is that none of these talk directly about Zionism (Rense will have cred there anyway). Alex Jones pretends to bring up the subject sometimes as knowing so much about it but not thinking that's where the shoe pinches. But I don't know (Note! Once again; This human being DOES NOT KNOW!)... Is the subject so sensitive that it is worth it for them to avoid so much...? Or is it another ”red herring”? Well, the search goes on. Hope I can be as safe and ”awake” as the rest of you one fine day...!

Finally on the topic of Alan Watt: This debacle doesn't have to change anything at all. I'll hear more from the man on occasion, apparently it's even more info he's running with now (and no calls). However, I will spend more time on the Zionist track for a while. Maybe I get a clear answer as to why someone would be fake...?

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I've never really liked David Icke or Tsarion, the only so-called "gurus" I've more or less trusted is G. Edward Griffin, Alex Jones and Alan Watt. As Alan Watt does not sell a lot of gold, knick-knacks and is very well read, I listen to him more than e.g. ex. Griffin and Jones. Getting around without advertising for various products is also nice. As for Jordan Maxwell, I tried to listen a little to what he said, but

there was too much talk about UFOs and powers so powerful that it wasn't worth doing anything. After all, Jordan also rakes in some money on questionable methods.

If you want to be sure, you probably have to read the elite's own material to the point that you don't need a "guru" but have so much knowledge yourself that you can talk to your own mouth and see through new and old lies and conspiracies.Quote:


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Jag kan bara ge exempel egentligen med Jordan Maxwell och David Icke. Tsarion har jag aldrig gillat men det är inget rationellt över detta så jag fridlyser gärna honom, även om han står mycket på samma grund som Maxwell. JMAX: I denna show med Jeff Rense så fick iaf jag lite svårt att tro på allt karln hade att säga: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/37810 ... Maxwell_-_An_Amazing_Life (Hope the torrent is still alive, can't seed yourself.) Some tidbits are various UFO experiences, shady people who have followed him since childhood, a little Tyrannosaurus Rex in the garden country as a child. With more. David Icke: Sure, it's annoying but this reptilian talk. Although I think he has begun to attach less importance to it, to my knowledge he has not denied his previous statements on the subject either (correct me if I am wrong).

Finally, this weak soul wants to repeat what he said earlier, and here I think you agree: I still don't understand the possible point of ”elite” sponsoring these dudes...? Surely they still have to do far more good than harm, right?? And there I am now. Sifting as best I can among the information. The only thing I can think of is that none of these talk directly about Zionism (Rense will have cred there anyway). Alex Jones pretends to bring up the subject sometimes as knowing so much about it but not thinking that's where the shoe pinches. But I don't know (Note! Once again; This human being DOES NOT KNOW!)... Is the subject so sensitive that it is worth it for them to avoid so much...? Or is it another ”red herring”? Well, the search goes on. Hope I can be as safe and ”awake” as the rest of you one fine day...!

Finally on the topic of Alan Watt: This debacle doesn't have to change anything at all. I'll hear more from the man on occasion, apparently it's even more info he's running with now (and no calls). However, I will spend more time on the Zionist track for a while. Maybe I get a clear answer as to why someone would be fake...?

Posted on: 2009/1/28 8:11
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(depressing was the word and I'm quite weak and sensitive, especially right now), I don't know why you are but it's a threshold you have to cross if it's


the truth-seeking it depends on, before you become confident in yourself again..

That's my experience. Then you have to take the opportunity to build a new foundation too quickly. Because if it is unstable, you have to tear it too..

And then the risk is that you become properly depressed.

Posted on: 2009/1/28 8:26
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Capsolito wrote: This almost feels like a hip hop beef, many will certainly spend unnecessary time on this event, but in the end it has no meaning, does not directly affect more than the 2 who want. This has happened before, then it was probably between Alex Jones and someone else from GCN if I don't remember completely wrong. How many times hasn't I been told shit, for example?Looks at the event as an unnecessary energy devourer.There are bigger fighters than 2 people who don't have access to any direct world-threatening weapon, Sadly this will certainly create more superficial2 sides of people.Respect


PRECIS! Verkar som programmeringen hos folk från samhället funkar, även här!

Säkerligen ligger något om FÖRTROENDE, fast vi akn inte ver sanningen om de vi jobbar med, pluggar med eller bor brevid, och ett par snubbar på nätet??? GLÖM det, get a reality check.

Att hyla, väljar sidor med andra är en GRUNDLIG problem.

Fuck Alan Watts, Alex Jones, David ICKE, do it yourself!!!

That has ALWAYS been their MESSAGE!!! Figure it out, Do It Yourself!!!

Ibland känns det intressant när jag ser vaken användare hämnar så här, framförallt efter alla filmer, vad man har läst diskuterat.

Still:
Att hyla, väljar sidor med andra är en GRUNDLIG problem.

Fuck Alan Watts, Alex Jones, David ICKE, do it yourself!!!

That has ALWAYS been their MESSAGE!!! Figure it out, Do It Yourself!!! hehe.....

Posted on: 2009/1/28 9:48

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Hello, this is Alan Watt, and the upcoming broadcasts were done back in 1998; a series of them on the Sweet Liberty Broadcast, on the short wave station.These programs were an introduction into the origins of religion in ancient times, the histories of the peoples who brought forth these religions, and also ot show you a system, (not of all things) that appeared many thousands of years ago.

Undoubtedly having understood the science of the creating of what they call civilization, which is priesthood, money, merchandising and bureaucratic systems, comprised of different of tiers of priests who overran and overruled these systems, beginning with Sumer and even touching on what we know of civilizations even further back.These programs were also done as a form of deprogramming, very gradual deprogramming, to an audience who swallowed reality as it had been presented to them from childhood and then was further augmented by the psychic- driving systems of school and media.

I knew when I went into it initially, that I was going into a primarily Christian-oriented audience who had that augmented by their country’s system; which is not theirs.Of course, there is a system alright, but it’s not run by the people, it’s just that the people didn’t know that. They really believed that their lives were evolving and so were those of the politicians. Things just happened coincidentally and politicians blundered their way through things as men tend to do. Nothing really is further from the truth.
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Alan Watt (Phone Convo With Glen Kealey)
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Glen Kealey Talk with CreatION - Alan Watt, I-Power & the Sufi Connection
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Alan Watt CTTM LIVE On RBN 215 USA And The Kiss Of Death Dec 15, 2008




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the version where alan watt got caught , this is the original broadcaster later scrubbed from all platforms it is 50 min instead of 45
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